Comments by "Dan A" (@DanA-nl5uo) on "The Electric Viking" channel.

  1. Like I said yesterday I wouldn't want to buy a first generation electric vehicle from a company that fired the engineers who designed it.
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  2. Funny that WV didn't warn about bankruptcy when the management team took the same raise that they workers are asking for today.
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  3. Monopoly markets set costs to maximize profits
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  4. I am thinking I don't want to buy the first model year electric F150 from a company that just fired 500 engineers. Some of them might have designed it.
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  5. It is hard for the ff industry to compete with renewable energy when those sources have zero operating cost from raw materials. The wind and sun don't send you a monthly raw materials bill. The ff industry does.
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  6. The issue I see with this projection is that it doesn't consider someone like BYD entering the US market. I think we will see a couple of chinese manufacturers replacing some of the other imports today.
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  7. The canoo pickup is cool because it has a nice bed with a small truck. If it has a 10,000lbs tow capacity it will sell very well.
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  8. Well I would be shocked if she lowered her compensation package to that level. But then she doesn’t think of her employees as equal humans who deserve a living wage and decent stand of living. If she did she would pay them at a level she would feel confident working for.
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  9. I would love to see it. But at this point it fall into the I will believe it when I see it.
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  10. When GM files bankruptcy the courts will rule that they need to be paid their bonuses along with a retention bonus to keep the needed talent as the company reorganizes. We have seen this before many times. The caplistist class always protects their own.
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  11. I like LFP I just wonder how long before CATL has replaced it with Sodium ion. The fact that CATL can make them on their existing production lines at 30% lower cost I suspect LFP will be short lived.
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  12. So far GM is leading from behind...
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  13. The production line is the same regardless of the chemistry used in the battery. They all have the same basic components. CATL has pointed that out by running Sodium ion batteries on their existing lines for lithium batteries. These new battery factories will just run LFP or Sodium Ion when the lines are powered up in a year or 18 months.
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  14. Think how much easier it would be to power such a small car off your own solar and be energy self sufficient. I love it. If it supported V2H technology with the tax credits I could literally see people buying one as a battery for off grid homes.
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  15. With that small a motor a solar roof and hod would actually provide a reasonable amount of range in a day.
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  16. Hopefully they are looking for LFP or sodium ion batteries
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  17. GM should have responded to the battery fires by saying they where going 100% LFP and would only use similar battery chemistries which are proven to not have a fire issue. It would have been a huge confidence builder for consumer safety.
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  18. It isn't scary it is good news for the American working class. GM cried they couldn't afford 9 billion over all the years of the new labor contract. Then before the ink is dry they announced 10 billion on stock buybacks this year alone. The UAW has won a victory for the working class in the on going class warfare and it didn't even cost GM their 10 billion annual stock buyback.
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  19. GM need less models and more production volume.
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  20. When this first happened GM should have sent Marry out there to say this is a safety issue and GM will be using LFP batteries to avoid the problem in the future. That any future battery technology would have to prove itself to be as safe as LFP before they would use it. The first manufacturer to state this fact will gain huge loyalty from those who follow the EV technology. Ironically it would have also lowered the cost of production.
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  21. 2 front wheels and one rear wheel is very stable as the inertia is forward where you have the 2 wheels in a turn. I have drive them before in solar races back in the 90s. It was one of the most fun vehicles I have ever driven with the single seat in the center of the vehicle.
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  22. This has been the problem since the 1990s all companies push things out way too early chasing greed. It is the only reason we need software updates to everything sold. If the product was well tested the software would be stable
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  23. Wow it is amazing that China limits this to inverters when they make the chips for the vast majority of our phones and computers. Lol
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  24. I am waiting for the BYD pickup in the USA. I can't afford a Rivian
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  25. Hard to call Ford F150 first to market when Rivian has sold over 1000 EV Pickup trucks and ford has sold zero. Narrowing the focus to ignore startup companies is propaganda.
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  26.  @1Snouser  sure in the elemental state. It is also completely stable as part of salt. Last time I added salt to water there was no explosion. Good thing to the oceans are full if sodium in salts
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  27. Given the nearly 30% profit margin that tesla has I will say no there is plenty of room for them to pay more for raw materials.
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  28. The entire automobile industry is the same the prices got way too high over the last few years.
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  29. Name one multinational corporation that China has done that to in the last decade.
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  30. This will be a leagle quagmire in the usa dealerships have some weird laws to protect their monopoly. Tesla has fought to get around dealerships and could because they never had dealerships in the first place. I would love to see this work but it is a nightmare
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  31. That import duty in the USA sucks I was hoping to buy one before I heard that.
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  32. The take away is that Tesla knows the software they have for the self driving technology today doesn’t work. Slow down production and hire more engineers means design problems
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  33. Tesla could do this if they didn't want a 30% profit margin.
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  34. ​ @jackcleveland1175 nailed it. The oligarchy wants nuclear power to keep energy as a commodity. Energy independence ends profiteering off energy.
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  35. When 30% profit margin isn't enough for the caplistist class.
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  36. I wonder how many of these would be needed for the small ev you see in china
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  37.  @1Snouser  Lithium reacts intensely with water, forming lithium hydroxide and highly flammable hydrogen. The colourless solution is highly alkalic. The exothermal reactions lasts longer than the reaction of sodium and water, which is directly below lithium in the periodic chart. Not sure I see your point the two elements have the same properties
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  38. Guess you enjoy paying more for the same products.
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  39. Millions of vehicles per year prove you wrong.
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  40. Recycling will solve that problem.
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  41. It is past time for governments to take action to end profiteering across all products and companies.
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  42. Ya that the CT is built like a 50s truck. We don't build like that for a reason
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  43. The reason you design 3 wheels is that motorcycles have different regulations and 3 wheels makes it a motorcycle in the USA.
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  44. While more people will want to buy an EV the market will remain supply limited. This will only impact the Osborne Effect. People will fix what they have buy used or car pool.
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  45. I would rather see the CT come to market than the long range Y.
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  46. Sam doesn't understand the last century of safety advances. We had vehicles that didn’t have crumple zones in the 50s. The CT hasn't gone through all the crash testing in the USA Tesla is selling based on a low volume exemption in the usa today.
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  47. They get the data and you get a 10% discount from a rate they set. Lol so bill you 110% than give you a 10% discount for your data and they win twice
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  48. Sodium ion batteries is the solution. Put them in shorter range EV and eliminate the monopoly.
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  49. Nuclear power is why we have pumped hydro storage. Nuclear doesn't ramp to meet demand it requires storage and always has.
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  50. Tesla need a ton of batteries for the semi and for grid scale storage
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  51. Go back to the golden age of growth in the usa when it was 20x the median income in the company that the management team made. Put us back at those pre trickle down economics taxes that made it more profitable to invest in your workers .
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  52. I liked the look the first time I saw it. I just wonder what the trailer capacity is. That is more important to me than the bed extension system as I often use trailers.
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  53. An electric station wagon would sell in the USA. I suspect all 3 would sell well in the USA. Station wagons went out of fashion because the emmisions standards and safety standards are lower in light duty trucks in the USA than on cars. So manufacturers took advantage of that and made SUV that qualified for the lower standards. Any company that has station wagon and features the better range and safety should do well compared to the suv market.
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  54. @sourav jaiswal it will be a long time before a lack of demand forces Tesla to lower their prices. I suspect BYD will be in the USA before that date. Given the current inflation in the USA at 7% vs less than 2% in China for 2022 that will drive up the cost for all American manufacturers vs China. I think there is a good chance BYD will be under cutting Tesla in the next few years in the USA
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  55. I am pretty sure you have to manufacture the volume before you can sell it. To say they can get there by stable prices is illogical
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  56. Unfortunately the current administration put a 100% tax on them and the incoming administration is raising the import taxes more to keep them too expensive for you.
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  57.  @markplott4820  they do now for years they only got by on government credits from other automotive companies to offset their pollution from fleet vehicles.
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  58. I would rather see cheaper shorter range cars
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  59. I don't understand how GM can do this without buying all the spark cars back. Because by law you have to provide repair parts for 20 years in the USA.
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  60.  @paulbarros5149  except that with an EV you can charge it up while you sleep at home so you never have to go somewhere to fuel up like your ICE you apparently hate to take to the gas station. The reality is unless you drive 400 miles each time you leave home you don't need 400 miles range. I drove upwards to 45 miles to work for years in New Hampshire and always figured I only needed 200 miles of range on an EV.
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  61. Just learning slowly how dangerous it is. We need to welcome all who learn wind solar and hydro are the future.
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  62. The only way it makes since is that they finially figured out a production issue very late in the quarter. If that is the case the numbers for both will double this quarter. Otherwise you are correct something is seriously wrong.
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  63. Sure if we want the 1950 accident death rates
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  64. ​​ @Leafbinder  someone doesn't understand the difference between raw numbers and percentage per accident. The vehicles today are far safer than the 1950s because they take the impact force not the drivers. Unlike the CT that doesn't take damage
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  65. Tesla's current 2170 cells in the form of the Panasonic 6752 units supplied in US-manufactured Tesla Model 3 cars have an energy density of 260 Wh/kg.
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  66. Now we need the growth in manufacturing capacity to fill the deman.
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  67. Hopefully BYD will sell a LFP powered pickup for a $40,000 or less and force the others to sell for less
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  68. A square peg fits better in a square hole. Round peg in square hole wastes a ton of space.
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  69.  @dwaneanderson8039  very interesting pretty much the same idea as the super capacitor used with batteries for two different technologies in the same EV that never caught on.
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  70. Pricing customers out of the market doesn't lower the wait time. It only sets the priority on the wealthiest in our caplistist society.
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  71.  @amateurwizard  history is full of examples where a cheaper product replaced a more expensive one.
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  72.  @1Snouser  LFP doesn't suffer from thermal runaway no reason to think the battery company that was able to avoid the issue with lithium can't so the same with sodium
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  73. I live in NH and have never used oil or gas to heat my home.
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  74. Unless you don't want to support an oligarch.
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  75. Truth in marketing they could also bring back the firebird.
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  76. My issue with Tesla is the lack of support for V2H or V2G technology. If I spend thousands for a big battery I want to be able to use it as a backup power supply for my home when the power goes out. For that reason the F150 or Chevy Silverado EV look better than the CT to me.
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  77. Historically public comments have been just a procedural step. The government only listens to the donors demands not the public's comments. What we need is a 5 year program to end the demand for ff. Heat pumps and renewable energy are what we need to invest in not drilling.
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  78.  @fredwinslow744  two exceptions doesn't change the fact that the majority of Republicans are pro ff and happy to brag about the dependency on the industry. My brother is very much in that category telling me the ff industry will be here forever and how proud he is of all the ways the make his life easy. I know far more Republicans in his camp than the ones who would buy an EV or solar panels. Most conservatives I know who would buy an EV or solar consider themselves independents now not Republicans
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  79.  @fredwinslow744  I don't get why conservatives think the most expensive form of new energy generation is the correct solution. Wind solar and storage is cheaper than nuclear of any type so why would someone who is worried about saving money and wasteful spending choose the most expensive solution?
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  80. Let's hope the coal plant owners take the hit. Unfortunately I suspect the rate payers in most places will end up taking the hit for their poor planning. I suspect in many countries leaving the grid with solar and storage will be the most cost effective solution
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  81. ​ @TheJoncic  that is funny they clean up leadership in the union. New leadership fights for the working class and you try to use it against the union as a smear. Priceless.
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  82. Given how much Ford and GM dealers are marking up their trucks I suspect this could sell as you can actually hope to get it direct at the MSRP not 2x MSRP.
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  83.  @hwirtwirt4500  funny how you stopped looking at the books when the company started making a 30% profit margin.
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  84. Just hire someone to haul it. That will be the most cost effective solution. As to long term leaving the battery in the car might be a good idea as at end of life it might be easier to deal with the EV than the batteries
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  85. The same 60 billion spent on renewable energy would do far more good than wasting it on nuclear power plants that are half a century old.
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  86.  @iareid8255  I have off grid solar if your grid solar is expensive the power company is profiteering off you because leaving the grid and paying the bank a home equity loan cut my monthly bill in half.
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  87. If it is a 2023 the vehicle has taken a years desperation lowering the sales cost is just the reality of the situation. Try trading it back in at any other dealership and see what they are willing to pay for it.
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  88. These batteries should focus on hand tools. Things like chain saws and grinders would definitely benefit from better power to weight ratios and would have better profit margins than an EV as people would pay more for a smaller battery in their hand tools
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  89. It is about that they will pay for s duramax diesel.
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  90. They should save money with LFP batteries and go back to the prototype blue in this video not black. That blue looks awesome.
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  91.  @xiebaiqin  I hope it has V2H and there is some way past the political issues. I understand what you are saying about DC I can only hope the caplistist class wants trade to continue. I also hope it has decent towing capacity I need about 10,000 Lbs at 150 miles. Unfortunately it is demanding but it is what my small farm demands. If it would match a Chevy duramax for 15 gallons of fuel on a charge with the same trailer it would meet my needs without having to stop and refuel.
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  92. Horrible idea boosting stock prices comes from things that damage most companies things like stock buybacks instead of better employee pay or new manufacturing equipment.
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  93. If you use the same standard for an ICE you will never buy new
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  94. Sure remove the 100% government inport tax on then same as the ICE market. Let's see who win in a free market when the cost of a new EV is the same the world over.
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  95.  @markplott4820  I believe Tesla existed for many years before 2022 without making that profit margin was the point. But sure limit your world view to one year. History is irrelevant
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  96. LFP and Sodium ion are the future.
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  97. So basically Elon wants to make the current energy crisis way worse with all his new demand
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  98. Those plants are half a century old. The same money spent on renewable energy will put more power on the grid for longer.
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  99. If you need transportation for 12 months you buy a used car
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  100.  @davidhumeston5292  I was simply pointing out that we will be supply limited for the foreseeable future it is a growth industry no need to take that as defeatist
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  101. A box would look better than the CT from Tesla.
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  102. CATL has Sodium based batteries in the works which they say will lower the cost 30%
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  103.  @icosthop9998  the lithium is just a small component Robert Murray Smith has a video somewhere on his YouTube channel where he takes apart a lithium battery to show the difference components and talks about how little lithium is actually in the battery.
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  104. If legacy automotive wants to save margin they need to sell direct to the customer. Eliminate the for profit middle man dealerships.
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  105. I would be more interested if it had LFP or Sodium ion batteries.
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  106. Well Q4 must have been great with those double digits sales... 🤣
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  107. Yes cost is too... that gas is expensive most of the world over and will be more so if the middle east gets into full blown war.
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  108. Sounds like Tesla is too lazy to police their order placement system. They could simply prioritize single orders from new customers. But once you buy a vehicle you own it and have the right to sell your private property.
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  109.  @johncahill3644  like I said there are easier ways to set priorities then hire a league department to chase down sales by owners for a year.
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  110.  @islandman9619 that would be true if the increased profits went to increased volume. Unfortunately it goes to making Elon Musk the wealthiest person on planet earth. Caplistist society is structured to transfer wealth upwards. This is just an example of that system at work.
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  111. Did you ask the same question about pumping billions of barrels of oil out and dumping the carbon and methane into the biosphere?
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  112.  @nathanjones9402  so far Rivian is closer to mass market than ford proven by the sales numbers. I am willing to bet BYD will actually be first to high volume production though.
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  113. Or said another way they found the limit of how much they can profiteer at the current market demand
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  114.  @richardgoldsmith7278  lol you defend a company that has a 30% profit margin as not profiteering. That is priceless
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  115. Their hate comes from their loss aversion. They fear they won't be able to keep their current lifestyle if they have to give up their ff assets
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  116. ​ @Feel_theagi  you don't see the oligarch here who is the world's wealthiest person as a bigger threat to democracy?
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  117. ​ @Sal3600 the point was that the product wasn't good and they didn't make it right. If you don't care about getting what you paid for you are the exception
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  118.  @1Snouser  tell me why do facts from google trigger you?
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  119. We already do with geothermal energy today. The idea of deep geothermal is you can literally do it anywhere people already live and how coal, gas, or nuclear power plants today. This technology literally let's you drill some holes and spin the same turbines using the same power grid connections as the old ff or nuclear power plants used.
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  120. These price hikes are cases by greed. High demand doesn't mean any manufacturer has to raise prices it only means they have the opportunity to profiteer. In this case it is profiteering off war in Ukraine same as the ff industry is doing.
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  121. Ford is already showing the path for caplistist they have made a new company for EV so they can eventually declare bankruptcy on the ICE company after robbing all the asset value. Which will fuck the workers as the benefits like 401k and retirement pension will be linked to the bankruptcy company. So sure Ford or GM won't exist but the same wealthy elites will be making profits off EV sales.
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  122. Lol I am sure you needed to drive 600 miles without stopping more than 5 minutes 😅 That is 10 hours at an avg speed of 60mph which is close to highway speed and above any non highway speed limits.
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  123.  @mikafiltenborg2291  that hasn't stopped them in the past.
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  124. ​ @backpackpepelon3867 or anyone who doesn't want to support an oligarch.
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  125. This is a great sign the banks divesting from the ff industry will make all the difference
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  126.  @icosthop9998  the payment is one way of looking at it. The saving in not buying gas is another. If the EV pays for itself in savings you can afford to be less fussy
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  127. Maybe he should hire humans not robots. Elon keeps showing his efforts to replace all employees.
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  128.  @mikafiltenborg2291  you missed the point. There are other more profitable things Tesla can do with the batteries than make a cheap car. Which the electronic Viking seemed to have missed as well.
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  129. There is a similar resource in northern Canada. It was reported on about a year ago with there own pilot geothermal power plant
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  130. I am willing to bet BYD will get an EV pickup truck in the USA before GM. I would definitely be more willing to buy a BYD before either a ford or GM today.
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  131. The Gas and Oil Party are just doing the bidding of their donors.
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  132. Don't worry the import tax will keep them more expensive for Americans. Our oligarchy wants us to be priced out of new technologies
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  133. The thing that is missing from this video is that we live in a society that uses 19 terawatta of energy so 0.35 terawatta is a long ways from our demand.
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  134. The market is too big for Tesla to crush GM and Ford with one factory making something close to a pickup truck.
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  135. Every mile driven without ff is progress in my book
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  136. Well the history of Bill Gates and energy technology doesn't instill confidence. He has made some very poor decisions in the past. Seeing Bazos and knowing the order Amazon has with Rivian it would be interesting to know if this manufacturer will be used by Rivian. I would have more hope if they prototype a Rivian delivery van for Amazon. Then we would know the investor was also the first high volume customer.
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  137. If they are starting with sea water you have to wonder if they could start with reverse osmosis to produce water for communities needing water while concentrating the sodium.
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  138.  @enadegheeghaghe6369  the video said they use sodium found in sea water. If you where listing.
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  139. Have you looked at the ICE dealer lots? Everyone is priced out of the new car market today and no one is selling in volume. That said EV sales are less impacted than ICE sales.
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  140. That would be 1/3 of all global light vehicles. I seriously hope we don't end up with that type if global monopoly.
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  141.  @fredwinslow744  the point if the video is that the intrest in EV is growing with conservatives not that it is the majority position in the party. A change from 1% 2% is growing but still a long ways from 51%
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  142.  @fredwinslow744  where did I say people where brainwashed? You are making up an argument just to knock it down. Does that make you feel better about your point?
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  143.  @billcichoke2534 you do realize the entire reason we have pumped hydro storage is that nuclear power cannot match demand and has to have massive amounts of storage to level out demand and production correct? So you don't win the argument about storage by going nuclear you just trade why you need massive storage capacity. By the way going off grid solar was half the cost of staying on the power grid here in NH where we have a nuclear power plant. It has only made our rates some of the highest in the USA I don't regret that choice for a second
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  144.  @patrickryan7829  what does the efficiency of filling a gas tank have to do with anything? Not to mention how do you pull a vacuum without using energy?
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  145.  @patrickryan7829  are you suggesting you carry your own personal vacuum tank to store your car exhaust?
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  146.  @patrickryan7829  you need to study the volume of exhaust gases vs the fuel tank that is the craziest idea I have ever heard. What do you do with all the full exhaust bottles when you get done driving????
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  147.  @billcichoke2534  the french government heavily subsidized the nuclear industry. So if you want socialism you can pay more for your power through taxes. Ask the British how well having the french build Hinkley Point Nuclear power plant has worked out. Spoiler alert it hasn't been cheap or on time.
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  148.  @billcichoke2534  who is arguing for coal power? Now you are back to strawman arguments.
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  149.  @billcichoke2534  I live with off grid solar it is far more reliable than the power company which dropped out about 4 times a year for up to 12 hours.
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  150.  @billcichoke2534  wow the misinformation in that post is shocking.
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  151. Sam the square cells are much bigger then the orginal cells in the model S. Tesla is doing this to improve energy density with each new battery as it removes the outer case of several batteries. The other issue is wasted space between cells you simply can't fill the volume as well stacking cylinders together as you can when you stack blocks the same size together. The question o would have with the photo you showed of these batteries stacked together is can the cool them from the top and bottom only? Thermal management is my concern for the cell design you showed stacked square together unless it is actually built into each cell. But my take is these are bigger square cells worth no wasted space between the cells and no cooling pipes between the cells taking up space as you have in a Tesla pack.
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  152. I want the same thing. Unfortunately the parts we want are the expensive ones mainly the motor and batteries able to pull the load. The things you can do without don't add much cost.
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  153. Glad to hear she held them to task and got the lawyer involved. This is the only language they understood it will take a class action case to fix this for the rest of the people involved
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  154.  @evmike71  that is a catch 22 the 400 volt system that Tesla owns and doesn't want to upgrade to 800 volts per Elon's comment at the latest meeting is probably largely responsible for the delays in the CT release as the "fast" charging is too slow to deliver enough power to the power hungry CT at 400 volts.
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  155.  @rogerstarkey5390  did you read the title of the video??? I am positive you can't prove that every member of the EV design team is still employed after Ford fired 500 engineers.
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  156.  @bru512  lol Tesla buys there batteries from Panasonic and many other companies with a co venture same as GM and Ford. BYD is the only one who actually makes their own batteries
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  157. ​ @Leafbinder lol you definitely don't know history
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  158. I would be more impressed if there was a profitable pickup truck in production for tesla with this comment otherwise it comes across as someone scared others will succeed where he has failed.
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  159.  @incognitotorpedo42  I am willing to bet the time from Prototype to production is far shorter than the vaporware years for the CT to date.
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  160.  @iareid8255  what part of off grid power do you not understand? I have a well pump 2 houses and a small farm with a couple dozen cows drinking off my well so I suspect my demand for electricity is larger than most households.
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  161.  @iareid8255  solar has low availability? Do you live on the dark side of the moon??? Here on planet earth we have plenty of sunlight.
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  162.  @iareid8255  I am ar 44 north and my solar system works just find. Google puts the UK at 55 north so sure you will have a Slightly shorter days in the winter and longer days in the summer. But the UK also has access to offshore wind that I lack. Renewable energy isn't a one solution fits all future. Which is a good thing. It means we won't all be competing for the same resources we will be choosing what best fits our needs where we live.
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  163.  @iareid8255  you must be paid to be so consistently in denial. Renewable energy works plenty consistently for me the sun hasn't failed to power all life on planet earth for billions of years. I suspect it will continue for the rest of my life. For it the sun fails in 8 minutes time we will find outself cold and in the dark dieing anyway.
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  164. Given where the issies are it is probably as simple as a paint preparation issue in manufacturing
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  165. @sourav jaiswal it would be irresponsible of Tesla to not maximize their profits which is something they have shown to understand with each model they have released. I would be thrilled to see their priced come down as a consumer but I don't expect caplistist to pass up profit if they where going to do that they wouldn't have such a high profit margin today.
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  166.  @Car-guy307  someone else already bought all 20 something they had for sale.
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  167. ​ @linphilip6389 also add funding the oligarchs
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  168. You fail to understand capitalism. Tesla has a fiscal responsibility to maximize profits for the share holders. The 100% tax on the imports sets the minimum price of the EV built in the usa. The share holders could take Tesla to court if they didn't charge equal to the cost of the making the EV elsewhere plus the tariff. To fail to include the tariffs in the price for a non tariff vehicle would be a failure to get the maximum profit for the shareholders equal in dollar value to the tariff itself.
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  169.  @jakecease  sorry it sucks but the first trucks won't be low end they will be targeted at the maximum profit like the duramax. I bought my duramax in 2005 when they where $45,000 with the quad cab. I can't afford a new truck right now but I figured you subtract the $7500 tax credit from $70,000 and it is a good price compared to the alternative which is really the duramax at the high end of the market where they are targeting for the first releases. They will easily sell all they can make for 5 years
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  170. This sounds like a lot of energy until you realize the usa uses 4 Tera watts so 0.6 Tera watts is a drop in the bucket.
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  171.  @andrewsaint6581  then the company doesn't need a 30% profit margin and should stop profiteering off the situation
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  172. They won't sell in the USA with a 100% federal tax on them.
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  173. If the current speed is 20 minutes and you go to 5 minutes then you are in fact going 4x faster. Basic math is definitely not your strength 5x4=20.
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  174.  @vanrozay8871  too many companies have manufacturing capacity in china. BYD will figure out the loopholes once they decide the market is worth getting into. Right now Europe and Australia will take all the cars they can dream of making. But that will change.
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  175.  @vanrozay8871  sure but 2027 is 5 years off I think by then BYD will be sucking up some of the market that was GM and Ford is my only point that Tesla won't get it all.
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  176.  @vanrozay8871  I am hoping that BYD makes a pickup with V2H technology I can afford because I can't see either ford or Chevy forcing the dealers to not price gouge for the first 4 or 5 years the market is just too big. I won't buy a CT if it doesn't have V2H or LFP batteries same with the other. I need the ability to use the truck as a battery on my small farm.
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  177. I am waiting for that truck hoping it is affordable and sold direct from the factory to the customer in the USA to avoid the dealership markups.
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  178. The oligarchy wants nuclear power to keep energy as a commodity. Energy independence will stop energy as a way to transfer wealth upwards in our society.
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  179.  @markplott4820  the history of how they got there is the road map we have to judge other companies become EV manufacturers by in the USA do it is completely relevant that Tesla lost money for years when people complain about other automakers losing money in the same market. Put your Tesla fan club membership aside for a moment and you will understand the point.
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  180.  @markplott4820  I see you put your fan club membership on full display not putting it a side to see reality.
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  181.  @markplott4820  nice outing yourself as a troll.
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  182. The same place you will find the ICE for that price the uses dealership
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  183. You would build them because you committed yourself to it when you took the pre orders. Don't offer something for sale if you are not happy with the profit margin. That failure should have consequences.
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  184.  @ConstanceCox  if you don't like their products don't buy them
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  185. Probably not it usually takes 6 months to a year to get valid data from industry. Companies don't want their current financial data out there
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  186. No one fast charges at home as no one pumps gas into their car from a bulk tank at home.
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  187. I always thought if quality was Job 1 at ford it showed how bad they do with everything else. I keep hoping BYD will sell an EV pickup in the USA.
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  188.  @jamesvandamme7786  given the price they are selling for in china and the price Ford and Chevy are selling for the tariffs still leave them less expensive
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  189.  @mrgurulittle7000  lol it isn't 1960 anymore the vast majority of the things you buy where made by Chinese capitalists for the last 3 decades atleast
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  190.  @johnb7430  apparently no more risky than buying from an old line like GM.
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  191.  @mattferguson9109  the failure is a known degradation per cycles. A google search would show you but I am guessing with a 80 mile range per charge 100,000 miles will see that drop to less than half.
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  192.  @xiaoka  you would know more than I do. I was always basing that on the conversations I had with upper management about old manufacturing lines as an automotive parts supplier back in the early 2000s. Upper management told us we needed to upgrade because 20 years of support was required but they never pointed to any actual law to back their claims. I argued we where better off to phase out the line in question and let a different supplier fill the market with their newer more modern line ours wasn't worth the investment. At the time we needed the staff and budget for the new product that replaced the old one anyway.
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  193. This is American caplistist welfare for the wealthy. Tesla is owned by the wealthiest person on planet earth they can afford to pay full price for land. This is the tax payers funding the wealthiest person on earth.
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  194.  @kylek1556  we live in a caplistist society. You are living in denial of what happens when you allow the wealthy caplistist class to control our society. This is the result of late stage capitalism.
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  195. Check out Art Burman's work the reality is we are nearing the end of the fracking fields. There isn't enough ff left to justify these terminals
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  196. Someone seems to have just figured out how caplistist markets work. That is what letting the Free market set the price means. You charge the maximum the market will bare.
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  197.  @davidhumeston5292  globally the market is 66 million autos per year. It will take many more EV factories being built to meet that demand
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  198.  @rogerstarkey5390  I haven't seen any numbers on the newer cells
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  199. 😅 just lucky so far.
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  200. BYD should simply become a BEV manufacturer only.
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  201. Tesla needs a new order option first available under x dollars.
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  202. No we could live a lifestyle in harmony with the energy in our environment.
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  203. All it will take is one manufacturer stating that they will only use LFP batteries that are not a fire risk to end the debate all together. The hype of maximize range has been made the priority at the cost of higher price shorter battery cycle life and having a fire risk. It is a no brainer for someone to simply say they are 100% LFP today and the future battery technology will have to meet the same safety standards as LFP before getting put in their EV products.
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  204. Lol I have to wonder did they lower it as much as they raised it in the last year? Or are they good capitalist causing too much inflation so you feel good when they "lower the price" but end up with more profits year over year from a higher price.
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  205. That is only a problem if over building the supply is expensive. Wind and solar is so cheap that overbuilding by 30% is just building a robust system that has the ability to withstand failures. The power grid often over builds capacity to avoid the failures of the Texas grid.
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  206.  @pk47831  not for batteries
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  207. Trumps tariffs only cost Americans more when they purchase items. Democratic Nominee Joe Biden in 2020 election cycle. 2024 Biden puts 100% tariff on EV doubling the cost of an EV for Americans. He told us 4 years ago what the tariff war activities
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  208. War gives governments the political will to make rapid changes. I have no doubt that the german government can infact speed up the transmission to renewable energy if they choose building an LNG terminal is however a bad sign I would be more impressed if the goal was to install heat pumps and geothermal to end the demand for gas in heating before winter 2022.
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  209. Well not all his wealth 44 billion is tied to the fate of Twitter and who knows how much is tied to the methane powered giant flame thrower company. On and the satellite internet company which is a direct result of his flame thrower. So 1 in 4 of his ventures at best is Tesla.
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  210. Just seems like standing on one of the solar panels would damage it. Otherwise it looks good
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  211. American politicians need an evil empire to fear monger against they choose to make that China to help the defence budget and to deflect from the fact that our caplistist class crushed the working class by outsourcing our economy.
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  212. Oh ya humans should be perfect than we would never have accidents. Wtf
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  213. ​ @RagnarinVa sure we can do better that is why we don't have accidents every time we drive. But they will happen you are victim blaming to avoid the issue of safety design or lack there of in the CT.
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  214. ​ @RagnarinVa  just like a 1950s pickup truck too. Often the truck was easy to repair after you removed the broken or dead humans.
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  215. No it is a ICE frame design. Ford has said in a year or two they will replace it with a ground up EV skateboard design.
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  216. Ofcourse big oil is they hired all the advising people and lawyers that the tobacco industry used.
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  217. Not sure i want to let the power company degrade my battery for their profit. But maybe down under it is more cost effective for the hoke owner.
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  218. You can't simply base price on capacity. The part of the price that csn drop that way is the profit. Raw materials and to some extent production have a fixed cost. If you build a second assembly line the cost to run the lines doubles along with the output. You cut profits to find more market.
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  219. Well as long as the customers don't die in the fire they will be back in the market with insurance money to buy a new car sooner.
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  220. The push for Nuclear power is oligarchy wanted to keep energy as a commodity. Off grid solar scares the hell out of then as there is no way to profit off the energy once the home owner buys the solar system
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  221. When you want the limited edition sports car you will pay for it. Always been the case you are buying an image not a commodity
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  222. Hiding the hardware someone paid for in software is immoral if not illegal
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  223. Vertical integration only increases monopoly control of industries.
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  224.  @gregb1599  where did I say it was a good thing?
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  225.  @gregb1599  you replied to my posting asking a question so that implies you are asking me.
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  226.  @islandman9619  lol you lack a understanding of how the wealthy avoid paying taxes in our caplistist society.
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  227.  @gregb1599  than you should have posted it as a comment on the main channel not under someone else's comment asking them a question
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  228.  @islandman9619  lol so you are ok with the wealthy getting their income in non taxed stock options the using those assets as leverage on loans to avoid taxation. You have been sold the greed is good caplistist class can do no wrong bs.
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  229.  @gregb1599  lol keep digging a deeper hole. You are funny
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  230.  @islandman9619  the capital gains taxes are trivial compared to what the same assets would be taxed if the wealthy took them as income. Which is why they take stock instead of a salary like the rest of the working class.
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  231.  @islandman9619  lol the propaganda is thick with this one
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  232.  @islandman9619  it is class solidarity in the caplistist class. They all work together to protect their wealth at the expense of the working class
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  233.  @Sam_BS_Electric  If that was true price increases would have zero impact on the length of wait lists. The video clearly states reducing wait lists is the goal of higher prices.
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  234.  @Sam_BS_Electric  lol there are non so blind as those who refuse to see. Have a nice day
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  235.  @Sam_BS_Electric  lol you are just trolling so I will block you. You refuse to see my point is the only way raising the cost lowers wait time is to limit the customers to those wealthy enough to pay the higher cost or there is no change in the wait time. The only way to not turn off customers and lower wait time is to increase capacity which cannot be done by changing the price of the item.
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  236. The most important fact I didn't hear is what battery chemistry is used.
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  237.  @noleftturns  spoke like a true climate crisis deniers. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  238.  @noleftturns  🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep believing the ff industry propaganda.
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  239.  @noleftturns  just read the IPPC report it will explain it to you. But I couldn't resist pointing out your agreement against this technology is literally the very same argument that has been used against your favorite companies in the ff industry. Your hypocrisy has been exposed my work here is done have a nice day.
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  240. He doesn't have to worry Biden already taxed the imports 100% doubling the cost to Americans for daring to buy an EV.
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  241. Doesn't matter Biden already put inplace a 100% tariff tax.
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  242. We have a 100% tariff today what else can a president do?
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  243. ​ @Feel_theagi  capitalism the result is Tesla charges you 2x the price for the EV they build at the factory in the usa because they know you can't buy the BYD for less. So what this does is sets the minimum price for American 100% higher than the price elsewhere in the world. For Elon Musk to not price based on the cost of the imported EV would be to deny the board of directors and share holders profits. His company like all companies has a duty to maximize profits. The share holds could take them to court for failure to do so.
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  244. ​​ @Feel_theagi you think the Chinese government is a bigger risk to democracy than Elon Musk the owner of tesla who is a textbook example of an oligarch. The wealthiest person on earth who owns space x a government subcontracting company. His involvement in the last election is literally what the usa has complained about with the Russian government after the fall of the USSR. The CEO who uses his wealth to fund a political campaign and not just gain influence but an actual position in the government. That is far more dangerous to democracy than the Chinese government. It is oligarchy here in the US
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  245. ​ @linphilip6389 the oligarch CEO who gets a government appointment in the next administration is the threat to democracy not China.
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  246. Hopefully those are suicide drones like Russia is using in Ukraine
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  247. Why would you want a company with a 30% profit margin to buy a competitor which is selling much cheaper EV? Company mergers and acquisitions only serve to build monopolies with higher prices for consumers. I would much rather see more EV companies grow and compete in a free market to drive down that 30% profit margin.
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  248. Maybe you should ask why the quality of the software is so bad it needs to be "fixed" after the product is sold in the first place. I say that as a controls engineer who in 20 years had to update software exactly one time and that was when a customer forced me to use a windows based interface and the OS update broke the library I used from Microsoft.
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  249. Sam you are ignoring the front end accident where the CT didn’t have a crumple zone in your own video. This will never pass the safety crash test standards. It will kill people in accidents
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  250.  @yggdrasil9039  why the energy density matches LFP
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  251. Tesla has a 30% profit margin there is no need to raise the price with a increase in raw materials cost
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  252. If tesla doesn't want to have people flipping their Tesla cars in under a year to make a profit just limit the sales to 1 EV per year per customer until the demand is met for all new sales in the year.
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  253. So tesla took orders on vehicles they can't manufacture. I don't take downpayment for services I can't perform. This is the problem with the pre order model. It is a intrest free loan at the cost of your customers satisfaction.
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  254. The other place this will pay off is high power hand tools like a chain saw or other hand tools that currently depend on gas for energy density.
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  255. You need to find a new method of buying because your dealer markup on that EV is insane.. it is nearly an order of magnitude over the OEM price of many EVs
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  256.  @jebes909090  unless the manufacturer of the batteries is forced by contract to sacrifice their 400% increase in profits first.
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  257. It reminds me of Ford Pinto fires. It took a class action case and federal regulations to get Ford to stop killing their customers. This is how capitalism kills for greed.
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  258.  @eddiegill  not more expensive than drilling a water well if you go with a vertical system
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  259. Tesla has a 30% profit margin. So sure the 25% tariff is an issue but lt is less than the profit margin today.
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  260. Not like ford has a history of allowing cars to blow up in flames instead of moving a few bump bolts.... can anyone say pinto...
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  261. Most lemon laws require you let the manufacturer try to fix it 3 times. The problem was that they lacked the manpower to repair it in a timely manner.
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  262. Don't worry if Rivian makes it through production hell and ramps up mass production Ford will be justified for blaming them for their losses in the future
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  263. ​ @spencerpieters5502 how does thousands of dollars change people's lives who can't afford a $400 emergency? You didn't honestly ask that question did you?
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  264. Swapping parts mid model run makes for a mantaince nightmare. I know I own a Chevy duramax that is a split model year.
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  265.  @LightWingStudios  sure if you want to pay top dollar for manufacturers replacement parts. There are plenty of examples where someone has been told it will cost orders of magnitude more to have Tesla fix their batteries only to find out they needed a single leaking brass fitting.
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  266. Many people have said they won't give a penny to Elon now that he is into buying our politicians in public. They either don't agree with his political views or they simply don't believe in oligarchs.
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  267.  @jimjam36695  lol Elon has transferred Wealth out of Tesla into his personal fortune to become the wealthiest person on planet earth.
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  268.  @jimjam36695  glad to see you support greed by your favorite billionaire. But if feeding 9 kids requires wealth at the levels he is extracting from Tesla the working class is screwed.
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  269. Yup the government has made it clear with a 100% tax that they want us to pay 2x what they pay elsewhere
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  270. WV shouldn't remind people of their software history...
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  271.  @scottmcshannon6821  you think all the existing wells will be pumped dry in 5 years? I think we can cut demand fast enough to not need new wells if we choose.
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  272.  @scottmcshannon6821  it won't take decades just as it didn't take decades to replace land lines with cell phones
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  273.  @scottmcshannon6821  we lived for the vast majority of history without plastics and ff.
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  274. The benefits the manufacturers are moving to these states for is poor labor laws and poor environmental regulations which means the workers don't get the quality of life these manufacturing companies would have to provide elsewhere in north America. Don't celebrate the leadership that won the race to the bottom for the working class.
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  275. So even with 100% tariffs Biden didn’t save jobs. All he did was double the prices for Americans buying citizens.
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  276.  @dansanger5340  so do a state safety inspection on all vehicles once a year and make them pay the tax based on actual miles driven and the weight of the vehicle. Spoiler alert the trucking industry will never agree as they don't pay equity to the damage and higher demands for road construction to support a 80,000 lbs load.
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  277. The federal reserve has printed money at unprecedented rates for 20 years. Inflation is caused by corporations raising prices not the the federal reserve. ExxonMobil choose to raise the price of their fuel which is not in any way involved in the conflict in Ukraine. ExxonMobil did this because they can make more profit. Corporate greed is what drives inflation.
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  278.  @richarddixon6352  was there a point to your comment? Because for 2 decades we have increased the money supply without inflation. The last year inflation wasn't caused by 2 decades of growing the money supply it was caused by greed and profiteering off the pandemic.
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  279.  @icosthop9998  you can waste your money if it makes you feel good. It is your right to make poor financial decisions don't let me stop you
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  280.  @richarddixon6352  inflation for the last 2 decades has been right around 2% in the USA. That is considered a healthy target growth for the economy. You need to look at the numbers and stop blaming the government for the actions of the barrons of industry. It is class warfare and the caplistist class is winning because people like you don't understand that it is the Management team that sets the price of goods in a caplistist economy
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  281.  @richarddixon6352  lol you clearly didn't look up the money created in the last two decades because the dollar value doesn't support your argument. It is about 20 trillion since 2008 with 2% inflation which is a healthy economy. You clearly failed caplistist economics 101 if you don't believe the corporations set the cost of the goods they sell. How you fail to understand that it is the corporations that raise the prices and drive inflation is beyond me. It is the very basic principle of a free market economy that businesses set the prices
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  282.  @richarddixon6352  if the global monetary supply had experiential growth in the last 2 years and we only have 7% inflation that is amazing because you are saying we have over 200% increase in the money supply and 7% increase on prices. Clearly the two are not linked by your own terms
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  283.  @richarddixon6352  what is with your strawman argument about the price of a widget I would sell? You act like greed is mandatory.
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  284.  @richarddixon6352  I didn't put words in your mouth you just used terms you didn't understand apparently
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  285.  @richarddixon6352  I didn't say anything about what corporations should do. I said the act of raising prices by corporations is what causes inflation. You simply assumed that was somehow a moral imperative on my part I guess.
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  286.  @richarddixon6352  wow didn't take long for you to go full crazy calling me a communist. But I see you subscribe to the greed equals caplistist theory. Have a nice day I am done wasting time on someone who refuses to listen. You clearly know that corporations raising prices causes inflation you just happen to lack the ability to understand that it is a choice by the corporations.
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  287. Sam thinks paying 2x what the rest of the world pays for the same EV is a good value for Americans. 😂 the tariff war will only be good for the government or Elon Musk who gets to charge 2x as much in the usa as he can in china.
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  288. This will run up again monopoly laws. The manufacturer can't force you into a monopoly on fueling your vehicle.
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  289. This has more to do with the wealth of the people who are Republican vs Democratic. Getting into lower price points has made it more acceptable to Republican.
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  290.  @darrenhanson7696  🤣 funny you put pride over quality. Wanting to buy from a company with more experience building the product and who uses the best battery technology that doesn't catch fire is what I was thinking. But sure question my status as an American because I haven't been brainwashed to think I need to support the same caplistist class which outsourced our jobs
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  291. Not really a problem for the grid or the charger if people realize they can stop every 100 to 150 miles to recharge on a trip for 5 minutes. You get a lighter EV with less energy demand per mile than the current 300mile plus EV which means you are putting in less than 1/3 the power we put into a tesla today.
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  292. Those pushing Nuclear-Power are trying to keep energy as a commodity to transfer wealth upwards to the owner class. Roof top solar plus storage will keep your wealth at the individual level not the billionaires in the energy sector which is why they fight it.
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  293. It always is expensive. Saying it doesn't have to be is devoured from reality
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  294.  @excelrobot  but that is the point the market is too big for the CT to take a sizable chunk with the single factory making them.
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  295.  @excelrobot  I just googled it for you in 2020 there where 11 million light trucks sold in the USA alone. The CT like all other Tesla products will be exported but even if it wasn't that factory can maybe make 5% of that market. But your 20,000 guess won't even be noticed by ford or GM who are ramping up their own EV trucks
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  296.  @excelrobot  we will see I personally don't care who makes the EV so long as the ICE era ends. But your missing the point that it will take more than one factor to replace the current 11 million light trucks sold in the USA
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  297. So having a giant methane flamethrower company makes you confident he is a battery expert??? That is some twisted logic from the cult of personality
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  298.  @niceguyrides  you mean a task that NASA achieved over 60 years ago. How impressive. If only it where 1967 I might be impressed. But when someone claims to care about the climate crisis then starts a company to burn methane at insane rates of speed I am not impressed. His side venture in selling small flame throwers a few years back makes it worthy of pointing out that SpaceX is just a giant size flamethrower company.
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  299. Those gas stations will go away far faster than the percentage of EV vs ICE. New vehicle owners drive far more miles than used vehicle owners. So when 25% of the fleet is EV half the gas sales will be gone.
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  300.  @nilsfrederking62  there is a company working on that very thing in France. I forgot the name of the company.
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  301. Demand for EV isn't the problem there is more demand than manufacturing capacity at any price point
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  302. Prices are set at what the market will bare in a capitalist society.
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  303. Westinghouse made something like this in the 90s and sold them on the market for electic lawnmowers. Boston battery made something similar in the Obama administration and when the company went out of business the Republicans had a field day when they went out of business.
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  304. Which just means greed is more important than their reputation. Tesla knew how many batteries the CT would need when they took the pre orders
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  305. Probably the crystal is grown from the solar industry experience.
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  306. To manufacture but you have to pay the profit margins to maximize profits.
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  307. The entire stock market is a con game to make money for the wealthy elite
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  308.  @patrickryan7829  if you think you can store the CO2 you release burning ff for energy generation you failed to understand the law of conversation of energy. It will take far more energy to capture that CO2 and store it than it generates powering your car in an ICE that is about 30% efficient the 70% being waste heat energy.
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  309.  @billcichoke2534  wow deregulation of nuclear power talk about bad ideas. It must be a industry talking point too because this is not the first time I have heard someone say we need deregulation for nuclear power in the last few days. Talk about bad idea.
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  310.  @Barskor1  any non existent technology is amazing.
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  311.  @Barskor1  good luck making it into a profitable business
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  312.  @davidhumeston5292  I will answer after you accept that corporations control the price of the goods they sell and that the increase in those prices is the definition of inflation. So corporations control when there is an inflation.
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  313.  @davidhumeston5292  your inability to understand what capitalism is makes a discussion of if I support capitalism communism or socialism pointless because I am sure you and I won't agree on what those terms mean at the moment
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  314.  @billy-go9kx  oh yes because we should take the nuclear industry at their word with the lack of regulations needed on their new technology. Not like they told us the current technology was perfectly safe with no waste issues when it was new too... they lost the free market price competition. All nuclear power is too expensive the cheaper form of new energy is renewable plus storage and storage is getting cheaper without having to short cut regulations.
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  315.  @davidhumeston5292  so you don't think GM controls the price of their goods because the bought advertising to convince you to spend money equal to the price they set for the product? That is a very odd line of twisted logic. I can see you never working in a marketing department or a sales department.
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  316.  @jimbodee4043  they do expand and smoke doing permanent damage to the cell if they get too hot. So if you want an actual rechargeable battery you need to have thermal management or so large a battery that you keep the discharge down to about 0.2c. Spoiler alert no one wants a 5 hour fastest change rate so there is a need for thermal management
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  317. They are trying to convince the world that the ICE isn't dead before 2030 because they are transitioning too slow and know it.
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  318. Never because the theft is done in a way that profits the share holders. That is the evil of using stock as a benefits package along with the tax avoidance it aligns the management team with the leaches called share holders. Which really are a way to extract wealth out of the working class.
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  319. Lol like the grid isn't already charging multiple EV at the same time at a charging station.
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  320. The large battery packs should have a decent towing range. I would love to see the side by side comparison of each of these trucks hauling the same trailer as an ICE truck. This was done between the Rivian and a Toyota and the Rivian battery pack had the same range as 10 gallons of gas in the Toyota. That is a comparison people can understand and relate to how they use a truck today.
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  321. I don't get their 3 mile trip point at all. The driving miles per day would be more relevant unless they expect you to plug in at the end of each 3 mile trip. I believe the avg American drivers 15,000 miles per year atleast that was the pre pandemic avg.
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  322. By 2028 they should be working on sodium supply lines not lithium
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  323.  @Skylancer727  it eats into the range of an ICE as well. Having a Duramax I can assure you my mileage drops when I pull a trailer
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  324. Tax that massive payment Musk got to pay for this
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  325. The difference is a car will always just move the driver and passengers from one place to another. The last half century has proven that is a task with a finite energy demand. We don't keep building bigger gas tanks on ICE cars. We won't keep building bigger batteries on EV they have the same purpose
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  326. You sould be more worried about where they come from for Microsoft's new AI data center. Or all the other data centers. Hint Microsoft needs to re start 3 mile island for one data center they want to build.
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  327. Have you ever seen an EV charging station charge 4 vehicles at the same time? If so you have seen it provide the power needed to charge a single EV in 5 minutes for 20 minutes straight.
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  328. ​ @squishedfrog99-gp4qq lol you assume the current grid is maxed out. At the charger. What happens when too many people show up at the gas station today??? Oh right we build more capacity or people wait in line and learn to fuel when there is less demand.
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  329. Ford made a new division to sell factory direct
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  330. If the grid goes down long enough for your vehicle battery to go flat you have much bigger problems. You are literally talking over a week long power outage. My grid isn't good but 12 hours is about the record I have seen it down in over a decade.
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  331. I thought they had all the experience of selling millions of units in China
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  332.  @rodrigomohr1277  lol sure the manufacturers build factories in the usa because they wanted to pay more in costs. You must be a CEO
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  333. Because he is an olagarch who doesn't see his employees as people who deserve a living wage. Is that what you ment? Or that he wants to protect his 30% profiteering margin off his labor force.
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  334. If you don't go deep enough the wells will cool the rock around them in about 50 years and become useless. Nate Hagens has recently done a couple of podcasts on this topic.
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  335. I would like to think you are correct about 100% by 2030. My doubt comes from the new cold war with China. It will take imports from china to get above about 75% by 2030 is my guess.
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  336. ​ @MrkBO8 spoken like a member of the wealthy class who doesn't understand most people live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford the inflation over the last decade.
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  337. Yes and if Biden didn't put a 100% tariff on imported EV they would cost half as much in the USA.
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  338. The only ones pushing nuclear power today are oligarchs who want to keep power as a commodity they control.
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  339.  @longmuskox4194  🤣🤣🤣 it is his video title that agrees with my comment not your criticism of it. But that was definitely funny
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  340.  @scottbrown7415  we have heard this for years feom the ff trolls yet the EV manufacturing capacity has continued to grow so it is now 20% of the worlds largest automotive market in China and 20% on Europe. But I am sure non of those manufacturers have your insight into their supply chains...
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  341.  @scottbrown7415  wow you really do like to follow all the ff industry talking points. You probably don't realize the ff Industry uses the most cobalt to do their drilling so it is also their supply chain you are upset about. They probably didn't mention that in the propaganda you follow.
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  342. Sounds like history is repeating itself. If maybe a decade ahead of the last century run.
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  343. The CT doesn't have paint. And GM isn't trying to sell their truck cheap they are telling customers it will be $100,000 or so for the first production runs.
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  344.  @tonystanley5337  no the suggestion is the base models won't be profitable not the top end ones.
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  345. ​ @markzebr6463  that must be why the usa has the world's largest prison population per capita. We literally put more people behind bars than any other civilization on earth. But don't let facts get in the way of alternative right wing propagandist.
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  346.  @JanBruunAndersen  wow what a stupid strawman argument. Taxing profiteering is not a planned economy. You really suck at the strawman game
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  347. Tesla makes 29.2% profit margin. Why do you think GM isn't able to figure out how to make money on EV when Tesla makes so much?
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  348.  @pwells10  sorry you lost me when you attacked the company for having a well paid work force. I believe companies should provide a quality living for their employees not collect wealth for the caplistist class. Clearly you and I have a different world view if you believe being providing for the working class who provide all the wealth to the company is a burden. Have a nice day I won't be wasting anymore time on someone who sees the working class as a burden.
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  349. Saturn everything old is new again.
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  350. In New Hampshire it will be a motorcycle the law is very clear here you must have a motorcycle license to drive anything with less than 2 wheels which requires you pass a separate road test I would guess that 3 wheeler wouldn't make it through the cone turn test.
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  351. When I hear people like Bill Gates backing technology that only seems to work at grid scale my first thought is the wealthy are scare of small scale solar removing energy as a commodity they can profit from. I believe the future looks more like off grid solar systems as there is no profit driven middle man between your power generation on your roof and your consumption loads inside the home. Why pay Bill Gates to collect solar power, store it and ship it to your home when you can do the same thing within your home?
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  352.  @larryc1616  also know as greed driven economics.
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  353. What is missing from this is the cycle life of this new technology vs LFP.
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  354.  @spaceducky101  apparently you didn't feel it was worth sharing in your comment though... interesting
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  355. Removing his paycheck increases the profit margin for the caplistist who owns the vehicle.
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  356.  @Jk-dg6cd  one car driving between many people means more miles driven and more energy consumed. The vehicle sitting in a parking lot consumes zero energy getting to the correct location to start the next trip
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  357.  @Jk-dg6cd  it has never been cheaper to ride in a taxi all the time then to own a vehicle. Increased profits for the companies already reporting the highest profits in 70 years won't change that fact
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  358. True but longer life is one of the reasons for a solid state battery the solid electrolight will stop dendrites from crossing the cell extending the life of the cell.
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  359. So you like the most expensive option
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  360.  @chrisheath2637  sad when you have to depend on rich people feeling to pay your employees. Because stock markets are just that a graph of rich peoples feelings. Those few lucky millionaire could quickly become poor people if line on graph goes down.
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  361.  @chrisheath2637  so you work in the HR department to know who was fired and how? Or are you just guessing based on what you want the company to do??? Also why be proud that employees who did what they where told by their employer got the cold shoulder instead of retained into jobs that the company needs filled for their new product types. If ford lacks the vision to take care of their employees when their focus changes I still wouldn't want to buy from them. I would buy from a company that takes care of their employees first.
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  362. As an American I am pretty sure our postal service will need a Tesla semi to do letter delivery. Just to fit the ego of the driver.... /s. Really thought I love it and wish we had small cheap EV like this in the USA.
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  363. I would rather have the 800 volt charging too.
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  364.  @MDC_1985  oh you mean the chargers that Tesla hasn't actually built. The current 400 volt chargers that make up the Tesla network are what all tesla owners use today
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  365.  @MDC_1985  lol you say that like the semi is out there in high volume... thanks for the laughs.
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