Comments by "Dan A" (@DanA-nl5uo) on "Hong Kong - is the pro-democracy movement defeated? | Conflict Zone Special" video.

@shadowlord1418 then only in select cases. The british definitely didn't give independence to all their subjects without conflict many Americans died to gain their independence.
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@maxbreeze4861 the French revolution and the American Revolution where not without their fair share of violence. To get outraged at the oppressed who demand an end to oppression is to accept the will of the ruling class.
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@shadowlord1418 It would require an in depth study of the population of the British empire to see if you are correct. I honestly don't know but suspect you are probably wrong. History definitely shows that those in power don't willingly give up that power without first using force to keep it. Look at the civial rights movement in the USA or any history of peaceful protest it is often if not always met with state sponsored violence. The 21st century is full of examples of state governments using violence against their citizens when the citizens demand change from the government. It spans from Asia through the middle east and North America. Be it the Hong Kong protest the Arab spring or the BLM movement the seens from the streets of citizens having chemical weapons band from war by international law used against then are the same.
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History teaches us no government has ended its authoritarian abuse of their own citizens without the rebellious citizens taking extreme action. Study the history of democracy. The French revolution and the American revolutions where not peaceful processes. The arguement that the oppressed should be held back from acting out against their oppressors only reinforces the power of the ruling class.
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@KennyNGA is there a really good example of democracy today? The globalism of capitalism has pretty much insured oligarchy is a world wide form of government. Just look at the current elections in the USA our "choice" was neoliberalism or fascism. We could choose the continuation of the trump administration or the return to the administration that gave us trump. Either way I am reminded of Warren Buffett saying this is class warfare and my class is winning.
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@canto_v12 have you been to Tiawan? I spent 18 months living there. There are some good things about their society for sure they did much better with the pandemic response then the USA. But they definitely suffer from the class warfare of neoliberalism and globalization. I got to see first hand how the owners of the company live compared to the workers. So no not really a good example of how democracy should work in the interests of the working class over the wealthy minority.
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@uksammasku4603 when opposing a government that has concentration camps you are often forced to do more than politely ask them to not violate the basic human rights of their own citizens. Sorry but any government that oppresses and impressions large parts numbers of their own citizens who have committed no crime has lost their moral authority and the citizens have an obligation to take back the consent they gave the government to rule in the first place.
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@kbstrong429 yes the entire world is in crisis mode because capitalism is a system designed to increase income inequality and protect the wealthy ruling class. Globalization was the only way to keep that flawed system afloat but at the cost of bigger failure later in time. I suggest you search for Richard Wolf democracy at work and listen to his perspective on the current situation
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@canto_v12 well I have never been beyond the Hong Kong airport so you have me at a disadvantage there I dont know anything about Hong Kong. But I do agree Tiawan has a lot going for it. But it also is suffering the outsourcing issues we saw in the USA at the end of the last century. My point is simply that globalization is not helping the working class.
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@Veteransolo wrong anarchy is not the far right of the political spectrum fascists are. Anarchy isn't a form of government so it isn't on the political spectrum of governments. The lack of a government is by definition not on the spectrum of governments. The rest of your argument is not even worth dissecting. I suggest you listen to Richard Wolf to learn what the left side of the political spectrum really is.
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Greg Gaming wow you live in an odd alternative facts word. But you might as well call all humans Africana if you deny people associating with the country they where born in.
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