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Comments by "Dan A" (@DanA-nl5uo) on "What Fox News Gets Wrong About Texas Outage" video.
Not the fault of the caplistist who decided that they would save money by not winterizing the infrastructure.
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Ya but all that winterizing really cuts back on your profits. I mean how often will it get below freezing in Texas??? Oh there is this climate crisis that causes more extreme weather oh well some people just have to go without power so the barrons of industry can have a few more zeros in their bank accounts.
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@DracoMagnius https://www.weather.gov/fwd/d32data It seems the historical data shows the risk of freezing in Texas is definitely higher than your volcano risk. I mean there are only multiple days every single year. Add to that anyone who is building energy infrastructure should be aware of the increased volatility of the climate going forward due to climate change and nope sorry their is no excuse to not think freezing could definitely be a problem in north America.
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@sjbock the manufacturer of the wind turbines are multinational corporations with plenty of layers
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@fredyscanlan nope but that is funny they will have to close the comments.
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So the wind isn't a Texas resource??? What does someone import the wind from the middle east?
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@Pilotin74 the manufacturer of the wind turbines are the ones who where financially harmed by Fox news. They stand to lose their market share from the propaganda fox is spreading. So they are the ones with a case against fox.
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@Retro_Afterglow solar is tricky in one respect starting small usually doesn't save money. I would honestly talk to a solar installer before buying your next home and see about getting a full system installed as part of the purchase agreement get it factored into the mortgage payment it will probably save you money every month. Also watch out for grid attached solar it is hard to add storage to them because they tend to be AC panels. There is a way to do it but it is honestly better in the long run if you want to have power when the grid is down to buy a off grid system and run it grid attached or standalone. More upfront costs but you dont get panels with built in inverters that go down with the grid.
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@Martinroadsguy you are correct except that Texas choose to have the most deregulated energy sector in the USA. So it is infact the fault of the barrons of industry who realized that it was more profitable to not winterize the infrastructure. The Republican voters need to realize this is exactly what happens whenever you allow greed to set the rules. This is just a cost of doing business which will be passed on to the rate payers or the insurance companies as far as the barrons of industry are concerned. To the working class it is a man made human tragic that was clearly avoidable as cold weather alone doesn't end the power production or distribution global. But the lesson to learn is that the billionaires lack morals they lack the understanding of moral hazard because to them the only hazard is being small enough to fail and not having leverage over the government to force society to pay the costs of failure when they choose to maximize profits. Ask yourself will one owner of a power company in Texas be held criminally responsible for the failure to winterize their companies assets? I am guessing no they will not because in our deregulate society the wealthy are not held criminally responsible for the results of their choices to maximize profits. Greed has reached the point where we allow them to keep their past profits while not even being financially responsible for the burdens resulting from those profits. Meaning the power companies who refused to winterize their production facilities are directly responsible for the foreseeable frozen homes and deaths that resulted from their greed and not winterizing the infrastructure. But in our society no one not even the insurance companies will hold them accountable. This is a direct result of our greed based caplistist society deregulation.
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@stevenshumate3430 yup but so long as the state loses money and the billionaires keep it caplistist are socializing the losses business as usual in the USA
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@Retro_Afterglow your power company and mind in NH sound about the same. I am solving the problem with off grid solar. I have the system and will install it once spring comes and the ground isn't frozen. But in my case the power company connection fees are so high my system will pay for itself in 9 years. Then from then forward it is free energy for me.
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@Martinroadsguy did you vote for the GOP? If you did you voted for deregulation and dependence on the judgement of the barrons of industry. I use that term because it is a reminder we as a nation have seen where this road leads in the past. We know how to fix the problem we had a government from 1933 to 1945 that responded to these very same issue. We have just spend the nearly full century since undoing the progress made in that short decade.
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@halphantom2274 I don't think in the USA it is concern about wasted resources. We are a throwaway society conservation of resources isn't our thing. It is seen as a waste of money. The company's have lost all sense of moral hazard. Get big and cut corners if you win on your bet you keep the profits. If you fail you get the government to pay for the damages and upgrades are forced onto your customers costs and you still keep the profits and are not held accountable criminally or financially for the harm you did.
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@Retro_Afterglow you are welcome. I have noticed alot of new construction is getting solar panels in my area I suspect it is only a mater of time before the banks realize it makes since for an upgrade to existing homes as well. If you are the bank any dollar you can take out of the utility bill and put into the mortgage payment is money you make a profit on.
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@eriklakeland3857 last time I checked Texas didn't have the Cobalt used in drilling for oil either I also don't remember them being a big steel mill state to make all that pipelines or oil infrastructure. So what exactly is your point? The wind and the oil are both local resources to Texas that require resources from outside of Texas to develop. Oh most modern oil fields use solar power now because it is cheaper than bringing in power lines. So tell me does Texas have a big mining industry and manufacturing sector for those solar panels that are used to support the oil industry? I think your hypocrisy meter is pegged.
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Sounds like New England in an ice storm. I have to keep a generator because my power company can't even manage to keep the power on in the middle of the summer when the wind blows. Literally I was out for about 12 hours last summer because of "high" winds. I am solving that problem with my own off grid solar system come spring. Just need the ground to thaw out so I can setup the system. Keep warm and if the refrigerator gets warm don't take chances with the foods that spoil first.
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@sarahshanahan2222 cities are harder. But you can add grid attached storage to the solar your friend has. I looked into doing it in Massachusetts for a family member. It is technically complex but the better solar inverters for off grid systems will run on island mode when they are attached to the grid and the grid goes down. Schneider Hybrid inverters are even capable of working between the solar panels designed for grid attached systems that are AC solar panels not DC which most off grid systems use. So if your friend is interested in spending money for an inverter and batteries there is a way he can have power when the grid is down
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@amiciprocul8501 wow easily triggered or failed deflection attempt? I can't tell but either way sad baby.
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@eriklakeland3857 I will pass on the nuclear it is the single most expensive form of new energy. Also it has a rather major problem where the waste from decommissioned reactors that have been through their entire extended lives in the USA still is located on site. Building a nuclear power plant is equally to building a house with a hole in the floor for the toilet and never cleaning out the basement. We definitely dont need to make more nuclear power plants until after we dispose of the waste from the ones what have run their entire life cycle.
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@eriklakeland3857 the history of nuclear power is as irrelevant to the future as is the fact that ff industry built our society. Nuclear power is the single most expensive form of new energy we don't need to waste anymore money on it when that same money will make more power and jobs in wind solar and hydro power. That is the end of the story. Nuclear and ff are both to be left in the dust pan of history.
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@eriklakeland3857 my concern is what is put online as new energy. Everything else is irrelevant bickering. Nuclear power plants don't really fit into the future power grid as they don't ramp up and down to match the demand or change in supply. So if some get retired early and the "upgrade" capital goes into wind and solar I won't shed a tear. If some idiots want to waste their money keeping a old obsolete nuclear power plant online for a few more years I won't get worked up over it. It is a dieing technology dead in 2020 or dead in 2030 is still dead and gone. Not worth worrying about.
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@eriklakeland3857 you are intentionally exnoring the fact that we get to the end of the ff industry fastest without the slowest method of building new energy and without the most expensive. I can only conclude that you are paid to troll by the nuclear industry as it was a totally irrelevant topic to being with hope you earned a nice paycheck for your posts because they didn't change a single mind.
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@jeffbarnes2834 you can argue the harm in a court of law for Fox. I am guessing you might need a law degree first thought.
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@jeffbarnes2834 even if the court case just costs Fox news money they can't afford to lose it wins for the wind turbine manufacturer.
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@FurryGram to the billionaires there is no risk. The grid goes down they get the government to bail them out as too big to fail but they keep their profits they removed from the companies in the past and they are not criminally responsible for the damage done by their failure to plan ahead. This is what you get with deregulation.
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@Martinroadsguy than Texas might not be the most inline with your views. 😉
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@nickwest932 winterizing the power grid is money my power company spend for me. It was also my money as I paid for the service. Your rationalizing the greed of the wealthy owner class to take advantage of the odds in Texas and they lost. Now they should be held accountable for that bet but they won't it will be the citizens of Texas their customers who paid them under the understanding that they would be able to do what power companies across the country are able to do. This is a failure of pure greed all they had to do was look at the power grid anywhere else in the country to see how to avoid this. But Texas let greed isolate themselves from the rest of the power grid.
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@nickwest932 by the way your argument about immigration isn't at all the same. These companies profited from their greed. Immigration isn't about personal profiting from the choice. Two totally different things. A closer parallel would be to compare it with abortion rights where the right wing wants to change policy which doesn't effect themselves personally as they are not the person seaking the abortion. But it is still a poor analogy to a greed driven choice that harms other. So sorry but your own person issue with immigration has nothing at all in common with companies putting their greed over the safety of the customers.
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@nickwest932 they are only the same in that the conservatives lack of empathy screws the people who have the least power. Blaming the powerless immigrants for your problems is a way to divide and concur the working class nothing else. By giving you someone to blame besides the wealthy who put their wealth over your wellbeing. So long as people like you refuse to understand that they win. You are a useful idiot to them.
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@nickwest932 🤣🤣🤣 yup classic right wing troll you vote for the Republicans because you believe they will screw you.
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