harvey young
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Comments by "harvey young" (@harveyyoung3423) on "How to Save Britain from Cultural Obliteration. State of Emergency: The New Culture Forum's new book" video.
That was a great discussion last night. I've got my State of Emergency book arriving today from Amazon, which may be a bit ironic, but that inclination to immediate gratification is hard to break. Anyway not as ironic as watching the BBC Morning Show piece and listening to women talking about their vaginas while I'm trying to eat my p orridge.
while I'm waiting for your book to arrive I can reference a few of my comments in the chat that i will probably use to reflectively help me in not abducting the book in its self. I would recommend in sourcing my comments last night and in advance of your book the following:
"Disclosing New Worlds: Entrepreneurship, Democratic Action, and the Cultivation of Solidarity" Spinoza, Flores and Dreyfus (MIT 1997)
Particularly Chapter 4 and its notes pg 203-205. (Hubert Dreyfus has done much on AI influenced by Wittgenstein and Heidegger "What Computers (Still: 2nd edition) Can't do"
I have tried to place this with:
"Social Choice and Legitimacy: The Possibilities of Impossibility" Patty and Penn (Cambridge 2014)
and
"Postmodern Public Policy" Miller (SUNY 2002)
Some years ago I brought a bunch of books on institutions and organisations and management theory in the hope of producing real policy but I discovered it requires more than what books can derive (from concepts i guess).
I was using the above to try and work on Matt Goodwin's and Eric Kaufmann's work.
I think the origin of my work on "Disclosing New Worlds" was from the context of the pragmatic philosophies of science in Nelson Goodmann and the kind of constructivist approach (cf the left and conservative constructivist views of Kant Practical philosophy). My work on Goodmann goes back to debaters about the nature of laws in science and the modality approach from Lewis (also really beginning with Marcus in the 1950's who rightly did the John Locke lectures this year, but its very difficult stuff. It worth looking at Rob Ager's You Tube programs "Collective Learning" on film as this was very inspiring to me too.
The interest in science and law comes from McDowell's John Locke lectures of 1993 i think in "Mind and World" (1995/97). Took this back to mid century debates in probability theory and Braithwaite's philosophy of science who was given the Moral Philosophy chair. I wrote a lot on this in comments beginning with the first NCF conference and my discussion on symmetry and axioms. Still not sure if this is going anywhere, but it allows a intervention with the lefts French post modern thought especial Deleuze and Foucault.
Now I mentioned the shift from the age of inquiry to the age of enquiry and the (at least three) enquiries going on now: the Covid the Post Office and the (above my pay grade) South African case in the International Court.
It seems to me these can be interpreted together in some ways thought my "made simple" books on Law eg "Law: Key Concepts in Philosophy" Ingram (Continuum 2006) and the Palgrave McMillan law Masters series.
This opens straight on to Schmitt's and Agamben's and Derrida's State of Exception stuff. But I am trying to approach this through another view of the exception in law drawn from physics and measurement and apparatus theory, which was where I started in radiation physics in the 1980's and perhaps where I should of remained, but I don't think the Nuclear Industry are fretting about their loss.
I mentioned a switch in general policy presentation and particularly political Rhetoric (Quinten Skinner on Hobbes and Humanism) from taste to beauty. It has occurred to me some idiot might think this is reference to Yates! I want to say: I'm not a Satanist see Colin Wilsons two trilogies.
The you tube references i think begin from a tv series years ago "The Rock and Roll Years" which run popular music and politics together. I would just add film tv and philosophy to it. it would allow both and objective context and the space and freedom for pursuing subjective paths "To be arranged". i would begin with a ground laying of the basics and then 1966-1968 Dylan Highways 61, Beach Boys Pet Sounds, to Beatles Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour and Rolling Stones Beggars Banquet and Let it Bleed, Jimi Hendrix live, The Who Who's Next and Quadrophenia. It needs some women there too, but that's just me and the sixties. Who do you think?
I hope you don't get the feeling that I'm going to a Leftist Critical Theory job on your book and talk about everything except the book, and use it to go on about some obscure movie or something.
Thanks guys.
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