Comments by "Jessica" (@jayjaydubful) on "The misogyny of trans activism, with Julie Bindel" video.

@mohamedabdou9660 the word Feminism is a clue. Fenimism centres women & women's needs. Do you think BLM should focus on white people's needs?
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@SugarFreeWorldOrder I'm not confused RD. Feminism will have mixed impacts for men, eg of course it impacts men's employment prospects if they now need to compete against women as well as against other men. Personally I believe that breaking down the patriarchy & regressive gender norms would be of overall benefit for men but my point is - fenimism doesn't need to concern itself with what's best for men. It's not about men. That doesn't mean feminists don't care about men & they may be involved with other actions that support men (eg I am very involved in suicide prevention which men are disproportionately at risk of) - but our feminism is about & for women.
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@CalumDarroch You can't deny the existence of something that doesn't exist? Tell that to atheists. But somehow you acknowledge class? You accept a class system but not a patriarchal system? What would you say to someone who denied that? Should working class men just improve themselves & work harder? How do you explain women being more likely to experience poverty? How do you explain women doing the majority of unpaid labour? How do you explain women being more likely to be imprisoned for non violent offences? How do you explain crimes against women being less likely to be prosecuted? Hpw do you explain public funding being more likely to benefit men eg through transport & park planning? Etc
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@CalumDarroch my chippiness is a direct reaction to your rude, condescending response to my initial respectful reply & that continues. You are the one making assumptions & generalisations about me & my background & opinions. So I have lost any motivation to converse with you. All the best.
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@CalumDarroch I'm professionally successful & doing generally well so I don't recognise that. I am fortunate to not feel personally held back in any of my employment settings by my sex & I am respected in my setting & my field. However recognising the patriarchy is seeing how it operates systemically & that often doesn't mean direct discrimination. The patriarchy isn't a shadowy cabal, making plans, it's a system that we all live in. In many cases it also is oppressive to men. Have you read Invisible Women? For me this is very effective in showing how women are discriminated against on a systemic basis, that system being the patriarchy. I would really encourage anyone who denies the existence of the patriarchy to read it & I'd love to hear your opinions on it if you do.
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@CalumDarroch Ah lovely, another belch of hypocrisy 😂 Let's leave this shall we. This isn't a great medium for debate, probably neither of us are as twatty in real life as we are coming across to each other here so ok, leaving off all the mutual passive aggression, I do wish you all the best- see you about.
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@CalumDarroch Jesus, Callum, you really WANT to hate me, don't you? Well, whatever makes you happy
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There's no confusion here - she always wanted safe spaces for women & she still does, what part of this is hard to understand?
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@agschool708 do you feel disadvantaged by not being able to enter women's hospital wards, refuges, toilets, changing rooms etc? If men have their own spaces too how are they disadvantaged? Even though men don't face the same risks from women that women do from men, most men still appreciate the privacy & dignity of single sex spaces
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@Tranzor Z have you read any of her work? What about it do you think is mad?
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Can you quote from this interview what you see as misandrist or hateful?
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If they get to prison they will have a hard time, that's true. But it's very unlikely that rapists end up in prison. The conviction rate is pitiful even for the small percentage which is reported to the police.
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I know! Its embarrassing how they can't see that. I have no idea why these MRAs hate what she's saying - they are basically identifying with predatory men
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@Tranzor Z I'd say it's more likely that her views are formed from decades of working with women who have experienced domestic & sexual abuse by men. I don't see how you can call her a misogynist? Perhaps you meant misandrist but there's no reason to think that either.
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Yes but most judges are male, it is a legal system set up mainly by men, it is a patriarchal system. Juries are made up of men & women & both sexes are affected by misogyny & are often sympathetic to males accused of rape & biased against women victims. She doesn't mean all men and you're right that many men stand against this & as feel as angry towards rapists as feminists do. She isn't trying to pit men against women, she's taking a systemic view
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@Tranzor Z I think what you did was to misrepresent hers
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Basically, yes.
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@Tranzor Z Classic. A misogynist because she works with women who work & have worked in the sex trade, listens to them & is an expert in the trade, & argues that it is essentially an abuse and exploitation. That makes her a misogynist in your eyes. Say no more.
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@Tranzor Z thanks, you too. All the best
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Which ones?
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@xaverlustig3581 I have replied to you twice & both replies have disappeared. Have you seen them?
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