Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "EU 'using Northern Ireland as a WEAPON against the UK'" video.

  1. ​ @seriouslyryan6592 I'm Irish. The relationship between Ireland and the UK was sabotaged by Brexit. Make no mistake, it was a shock to how Ireland, which had modified and moderated its nationalism, while England remained unchanged and hankered for the past.
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  2.  @garrywynne1218  Nope, that's not what I am saying at all. You can democratically vote to shaft Ireland, but Ireland has no obligation to go along with being shafted. The Irish were surprised at how deeply ignorant of Ireland the English were. It was they who carried the vote. It is quite simple really.
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  3.  @garrywynne1218  You lost me mate. Ireland respected international law and was not involved in changing the status quo - that was the UKs decision. In the same way as the Nazis were democratically elected to power in Germany in the 1930s, it was the democratic decision of mostly English voters that took the UK out of the EU without any debate or discussion about the British border in Ireland. In short, just because it was a democratic decision, it does not make it right for you as a brit, and it certainly does not compel me as an Irishman. Because of the archaic democratic system in the UK, NI was taken out of the EU even though there was no majority in favour of doing so. Since the GFA, NI has been a part of the UK that is in the waiting room to leave the union - it may never leave it - but because of the GFA, NI it is not a 'normal' part of the UK. It is not, as JRM once claimed, as British as Somerset. It is anything but. With me so far? In 2017 the DUP saw an opportunity to put a hard border in Ireland. There would need to be a hard border between two customs areas, requiring infrastructure and the British government pretended they didn't want one. Some perhaps thought that could force Ireland out of the EU with this ploy, weakening Ireland, but they had no idea what they were doing. According to An Garda Siochána and the PSNI, any hard border would result in a return to violence. The Irish government pointed this out to Brussels and Washington. The DUP in particular felt the Irish were being unfair by pointing out the obvious, and faked some outrage. How are you doing? Still with me? Keep up. So, the EU defended its member state - a shock to Brexiters who believed that Ireland would be 'thrown under the bus', because it was not 'important'. Ireland defended the GFA and retained the status quo for nationalists, because Teresa Mays government found itself in hock to the DUP. The upshot was that under Boris Johnson, a known liar that the British enthusiastically elected PM anyway, Unionists ended up with their border, but it was in the wrong place. The Irish Sea border makes them less feel less British. They did not think about the consequences when they backed the hardest possible Brexit. They did not think about that when they thought the losers would be Irish nationalists. Washington gave the UK, its client state, a slap for trying to use the border to get leverage with the EU. For the cross-party Irish Caucus on Capitol Hill, Irish-Americans were looking at yet another example of the British trying to shaft the Irish; every Irish-American knows that they are American today because of a previous time the British government shafted Ireland. They were never going to allow the UK to ruin the GFA, a peace agreement the US had actually brokered. In short, the UK bit off more than it could chew. You are entitled to what passes for democracy in your country, but if the UK had approached Brexit as a serious nation a whole lot of trouble could have been avoided. As for Unionist in NI, I feel second hand embarrassment for them. Even you tell me that you were all laughing at the wrong bits, comparing Ireland as part of the European Union while it is against being in the United Kingdom, without understanding the difference. Or is it? NI Protestant Susan Mackay has written about Ulster Prods doubling on stupid opinions rather than admitting they are wrong, engaging in willful ignorance. Its probably an example of it. After all, if you did not understand what was happening around you, what hope did you have?
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  4. ​ @garrywynne1218  The problem with your argument is that NI is still part of the UK, it just 'feels' like its not, because you lost. Cheers.
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  5.  @garrywynne1218  Stop it The UK Supereme Court says NI remains part of NI and that the border you imposed on yourselves does nothing to undermine that. Grow up, and stop whinging.
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  6. Because we have memories longer than 30 + years.
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  7. Leading Brexiters never expected the EU would support Ireland, an EU member state, because the UK was 'important'. The EU has never thrown a member state under the bus for a non-member state before, but I expect Brexiters felt they were an exception.
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  8. You answered your own question.
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  9. And not only that, the PSNI and the Garda agreed with Varadkar (the Taoiseach). Who were your experts?
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