Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "Ireland's D’Arcy Warns There Will Be No Compromise on Brexit" video.
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'As for NI joining Eire? It will never happen as the Irish can't afford the cost of the 6 counties (as represented by Barnett and its deficit) and they do not want their sectarian politics either.'
One of the issues about Brexit that the Irish and the EU understand but , remarkably, the English don't, is that Brexit raises the issue of Irish unity before true reconciliation has been achieved in NI.
With Irish nationalists about to become the majority in NI, many of them who were comfortable within the UK are now angry at the attitude of those on the other island towards them. Their rights as Irish citizens in NI are undermined by Brexit. They look to the Republic as an open minded, liberal democracy while the UK has become a introverted, ignorant and insular place. Its like the roles have been reversed.
In the event of a united Ireland, many of the costs of running the place will be removed. EU and Irish government support will be used to develop the NI economy and to get it up to speed with its more dynamic southern counterpart. If the UK was to wean NI off its bloc grant over a period of say 10 or 15 years, then unity is viable. Brexiters would love to be shot of the place, so who knows?
Of course sectarianism is a problem. But this is likely to diminish once the UK breaks up, in any case, and of course any future united Ireland must be agreed - the GFA guarantees that.
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Oh yes, I am indeed on a parallel planet to you, absolutely, I agree. I'm on planet reality, and you are on planet delusion.
The government has no coherent policy on Brexit. The Tory Party, the Labour party are both divided, Brexit is not what the Scots voted for - the entire country is divided on Brexit. In NI, the DUP keep the Tories in power on a pro-Brexit agenda, even though NI voted to remain, with an even larger majority supporting the backstop.
There IS no policy, there WAS no plan - the Tories are making it up as they go along. Presently, the Tories are electing a new Prime Minister, choosing between a liar, a bluff and a cad or a dunce. The liar, bluffer and cad will win because his bluster is more like how English Tories see themselves.
Of course the Tory Party is represented in every region of the UK, but its membership is concentrated in certain regions and come from a particular demographic and economic background. Do you feel that is representative? Probably, because of course Brexiters have no problem with elites as long as they are not European. Nice try, but your point is obfuscation and does not address the electorate within the Tory Party.
There was NOTHING subtle about my changing the word support to charity - it was DELIBERATE. English Tories who are prepared to throw the UK under a bus to get the holy grail of Brexit will of course view any 'support' as 'charity'...with those receiving it not 'appreciating' the English and all they do for them.
I would advise you to steer clear of my deprivation comment also, as every economist and business leader worth his or her salt is predicting economic decline for the UK post Brexit. Of course, the poorest will suffer most...
Such is Brexit.
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'Now this may come as a bit of a surprise Soft Lad but the 160,000 Tory members are not the UK population and they are not the Government or Opposition that define UK policy.'
They shouldn't be, but they are at the moment. It is they who will decide on which Brexiter gets to rule the UK with out a popular vote: 0.34% of the UK’s population will get to decide who is the country’s next prime minister.
Recent research at Queen Mary University of London shows the Tory membership lives predominantly in the south-west, south-east and east of England. It is also overwhelmingly white (99%), male (70%), with 86% categorised as ABC1s with more education and better-paid jobs, and 72% aged over 45.
The UKs future is in the hands of gerontocracy that is barely represented in the north of England or Wales, has a minimal presence in Scotland, has almost no working-class base and is insulated from the deprivation that will follow Brexit.
These are the people who are prepared to destroy the UK to get the Holy Grail of Brexit. It matters not, what you think or feel.
'Interesting you don't argue with the huge extra support 'England' gives to 'Scotland', 'Wales' and 'NI'.'
I have no interest in what Brexiters consider charity to another part of the UK. The next stage in English nationalism will be to withold this money also, and perhaps it will be the English who will finally dissolve the union, grow a pair and finally become a nation.
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