Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "May's Brexit plan on knife-edge as defeat avoided by 6 votes" video.

  1. You can have all the belief in the world, but without a plan you're screwed.
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  2. The UK have no strategy for leaving, and no consensus on what that strategy should be. Virtually all of the promises made have not be delivered upon, because just about all of those promises I can think of have turned out to be lies. The mess is not orchestrated, its a result unrealistic expectations in the context of zero planning.
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  3. Ask the politicians. They are the ones who lied on the brexit side to get the vote they wanted, while the remainers were hopeless. That alone has undermined your democracy.
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  4. It is quite clear the EU is not prepared to lose the single market and customs union to accommodate UK cherry picking. You are relying on the EU being as utterly clueless at the British government had been - its not going to happen. EU member states are preparing for a hard Brexit now.
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  5. How can the EU work with the UK if the UK is still negotiating with itself? Brexit is a planless, clueless, clusterf*ck of truly historic proportions. The idea that the UK has a strong hand in this context is an interesting delusion.
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  6. It is exactly how democracy works. Nothing that you have promised under the first Brexit referendum has come to pass, and being allowed to change your mind is vital in a liberal democracy. Let the politicians put together a plan to leave and let the people vote on it. You may end up with a bigger mandate to leave the EU, which will help the politicians, or you may decide as a country to change your mind. Is that not Taking Back Control?
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  7. @ Gazza H It's not a dictatorship, actually. You obviously don't understand democracy. Nor do you remember Farage on the night of the count, thinking the leave vote was lost, vowing to fight on - I'm sure he would have had no problem with a second referendum if he had thought he could have had another opportunity to right the wrong. Autocrats like 'democratic' referendums such as your one in June 2016 and share your attitude to the changing of minds. Your referendum was advisory only and your proposition that a second vote 'isn't democracy it is dictatorship' is the opposite to the truth. Napoleon Bonaparte knew this and used a referendum to make him consul for life; Hitler , Mussolini and Pinochet also used referenda to legitimise their rule. Hitler promptly abolished democracy, ensuring further votes. Referenda can be hi-jacked by autocrats and populists. While the UK is not an autocratic state (yet?), Brexiters like you still hanker after that once-and-for all gesture that the 2016 referendum represents, the notion that all was changed and there is no going back. The public voted blindly, with no plan to vote on, no vision based on any truths or facts. None of the promises made have come to pass. This is bad democracy and bad politics. Continue on this path and it will lead to continued instability in the UK. The June 2016 vote signaled the desire to leave and Parliament is trying to organise that. Now it must be undone only by democratic vote, but this time let the people see the truth of leaving, that it is very complicated; present a plan for leaving, outlining the options, and let the people decide. Make it binding. Take back control!
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  8. If you don't trust politicians, try business leaders and economists.
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