Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "Could Brexit lead to Scottish independence and a united Ireland?" video.

@lucrativelyrics2004 You would do well to maintain the United Kingdom you have left, before you get cocky about about adding to it. In any case, while misery may love company, the Irish have no intention of returning to the UK. You can stew in your own juice. Alone.
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@emm_arr It is quite obvious that Tom Bowen is British, and his surname supports his claim to be Welsh. The evidence supports his assertion. You make assertions and provide ZERO evidence.
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Irish unity not simply about removing partition, its about uniting the people of the island of Ireland. We're nowhere near achieving that yet.
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@1chish The 1973 vote was ignored by nationalists of all hues - it was merely unionists voting among themselves, an utterly pointless exercise. The GFA was not a border poll, it was a peace agreement given mandate through referenda on both sides of the border. Not surprised you didn't know this, being an ignoramous and all.
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@1chish To what TWO border polls are you referring? How do you know the desire of the Irish public in relation to Irish unity? How do you know Ireland cannot afford 'the deficit'?
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In Wales, 12% of voters identify as English and they took their politics with them. Exclude them and Wales voted to remain. Scotland is a country with a distinct cultural identity and appears to be emotionally ready for independence. A united Ireland is inevitable, it is just a matter of 'when' rather than 'if'.
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@bumblebee5818 The term 'Rose tinted glasses' is used when looking back to a time the we like to remember as better than it actually was. I'm not doing that. I'm looking to the future, one which you are in denial about. No country is ever fully financially ready for independence, as it involves decoupling one economy from another. There is no reason why Scotland cannot decouple from the UK, then weather the reorientation of its economy before investing their sovereignty in an union that is more suited to them. None what so ever. This year there were zero controversial marches and parades in NI, and with the Tories having no great affection for the Union, it is quite clear that a united Ireland is inevitable. Even moderate unionists admit it is on the horizon, and there are calls within unionism to get their act together in order to shape that unity in a image that suits them. The reality is, Brexit is breaking up a deeply divided UK. It is all just a matter of time now. You are having the wrong argument - we should be discussing how long the UK will last not if it will break up or remain intact.
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@bumblebee5818 'You are dreaming, and misinformed if you think there were no controversial parades in NI last year, they have even exported them to Scotland where there were a number of clashes between the Orange and the Green last Autumn.' I said this year, and Scotland is not in Northern Ireland. 'I look to the future and apply logic rather than any romantic viewpoint of the quality of the people of the UK.' You look to the future, and apply denial. Northern Ireland has for the first time more nationalist MPs than Unionist. This is because the population of NI, its political demographic, is changing and Nationalists will soon be in the majority if they are not in the majority already; secondly, moderate unionists can see the writing on the wall are increasingly open to a deal with the republic, but first they have to negotiate with themselves and get on the same page; thirdly, the post-GFA generation is less wedded to the NI tribalism and is more open to the values espoused in the republic and the EU than those in Brexit Britain; finally, the future of the UK is out of the hands of unionists, and it is only a matter of time before Scotland becomes independent. Then there will be no union to remain in. This is one of the other issues moderate unionists are considering right now. Next year, the UK will be faced with a constitutional crisis because of a Scotland seeking a second referendum on independence and a Tory party which has no representation in Scotland wishing to thwart it. The democratic deficit is untenable. Suspend your denial and watch this space.
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Does remaining in the UK mean democracy?
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The 'British People' did not vote to leave the EU, 15.1 million the 17+ million voters were English - the English voted to leave the EU, the Scots and the Northern Irish voted to remain. Indeed, the Welsh probably would have voted to remain too, if it were not for all the English retirees living among them. Brexit will break up your 'precious union'. Your country was never a democracy other western countries would recognise. You have an unelected head of state, a first past the post electoral system for your House of Commons, an unelected elitist Upper House with Bishops (!) in it, no written constitution that any citizen has ever voted upon, no devolution for England and no constitutional account for the fact that Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain. Your referendum was a joke, with many pretending that they were never promised that the UK would leave with some sort of a trade deal with the EU. The UK already has a dictator - Rupert Murdoch. Good luck thinking you will be a self-ruling county. You will be rule takers, not rule makers. Enjoy!
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@bluepeter3470 How is it democratic that the direction of the UK is determined by an English population that is several times larger than the populations of Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales combined? All of these countries have different identities, aspirations and values as once strong British identity is diminishing. There is more to democracy than simply having a referendum on something and deciding who has won.
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@bluepeter3470 The break up of the UK has already begun - it started in the late 1990s with devolution and the Belfast Agreement - Brexit is just another step along the way. The constitutional arrangement as it stands today is not fit for purpose. Scotland voted to remain in the UK in large part because it would be left outside the EU. Now it will be outside the EU anyway. Why stay with the UK? There is no doubt that there will be loud calls for a border poll in Ireland. Welsh nationalism is also on the rise, though it has a long way to go to match its Scottish counterpart. Where is the democracy in a permanent English majority and dictating the futures of the Scots, Welsh and the Northern Irish?
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@jonathanhammerton9418 The United Kingdom is no longer united. There is a diminishing British Demos, with a growing number of people identifying as English first and British second, if British at all. In Scotland, there is a growing number of people who identify as Scottish first and British second, if British at all. In Northern Ireland is a large minority, on the verge of becoming the majority, who largely never identified as British These are the facts of the matter. Ever since devolution and the Belfast Agreement it has been clear as to the direction of the United Kingdom is headed. Brexit will expedite its dissolution.
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Its like divorcing your abusive spouse, and marrying someone who treats you as an equal.
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* It has the biggest fiscal deficit in GDP terms in the EU which is funded by rUK. That’s because it is far away from the centre of economic power in the UK – London. An Independent Scotland will have more flexibility to shape it economic future within the EU than it does within the UK. * It has no independent currency, will not have one and will not have a bank of last resort (ie Central Bank). Ireland did not set up a Central Bank until 1944. Scotland could launch its own currency and peg it to the Euro, and set up its own Central Bank. These are challenges but are not unsurmountable. * Its S & P rating will be deplorable as it will be a) a new economy, b) have no track record, c) no CB and no way of raising money to pay loans. Only in the short-term. Assuming Scotland will have a plan – and it did the last time there was an IndyRef – the rating agencies can be found to be very forgiving. So, there will be belt tightening, but again it is not the end of the world. ‘For all the kind words during Brexit the EU will not want yet another lame duck member state…’ If Brexit has taught us anything, it is that English people know nothing of the EU - you draw from that well of ignorance. The EU is made up of small countries includes many that are smaller than Scotland. The EU sees no great difficulties in any Scottish application and indeed Scotland is likely to be fast-tracked into the bloc as it already meets the majority of its conditions of membership through its UK membership. * 75% of Scotland's 'exports' go to rUK. That will end. The Scots can quickly join EFTA and begin the process of economic decoupling as an interim before joining the EU, helping the Scots find new markets; any dissolution of the UK will be done through negotiation with the English and we must remember, that Scotland will remain an important market or English goods and services and only the third with which it will have a surplus. If Ireland is the UKs 5th largest export market, what will Scotland be? Fourth? Third? The negotiation will be a two street of give and take. When Ireland joined the EEC in 1973, 71% of Irish exports went to the UK. Today its 11% and falling. Scotland is in a much stronger position than Ireland was in 1973. * The Eu will demand a border as they did in Ireland, will levy EU External Tariffs against rUK which will kill Scottish 'exports'. Actually, the fundamentals of world trade require a border between different custom areas. Scotland will be exchanging a market of 58 million of a market of 400 million. After some readjustment – a few years – Scottish exports will explode. You do realise that the UK will not exist post-Scottish independence, right? The tariffs will be on good from the FUKEW. * It will lose its coastal waters to the EU and Scottish fishermen will be decimated. (While rUk's fishermen reap the British sea harvest) The waters around the British isles will be divided appropriately between Scots and the FUKEW. The Scottish fisherman are supposed to be already decimated because of UK membership, while their English will be free to catch fish in their own waters for which they will have no market. Famously, the English eat relatively little fish for few fish species – they don’t like the stuff. Some European countries fish, but there will be cheaper options. * It will lose the £ Bns that are ploughed into the Scottish economy by the UK MoD for air and army bases, ports and facilities. The UK depends on Scotland as a home for its nuclear deterrent, as there are no harbours deep enough base it in England. This will be subject to negotiation with England upon independence * It will inherit 8% of the UK's National Debt on leaving. Or £144 Bn to which it will add 313 Bn a year in deficits. That will be subject to negotiation upon independence. * It will never build another rUK warship so Glasgow and Rosyth will close costing 20,00 dependent jobs. No, but Glasgow and Rosyth will be able to offer their expertise to Navatia, Fincantieri, Naval Group, Damen and others. You see, the EU is a bigger market than the UK. More opportunities.
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A separated Scotland will be accepted into the EU provided it follows the constitutional route to independence. There is no such route for most of the other entities you mentioned.
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The English think they depend on nobody.
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It's far too late for that. Scottish independence is just a matter of time. Most simply do not share the same values as most English people.
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The rest of us are awaiting England's new status as a vassal of the United States and a satellite of the European Union. The whole of the EU is looking forward to seeing the UK prostrate before the EU as it seeks out a second rate trade deal, but await the approval of EU states Ireland, Scotland and Greece. The Former United Kingdom of England and Wales (the F.U.K.E.W) will be like Greece but with lousy weather.
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A united Ireland is inevitable, the only argument is when it will happen. Brexit will ensure that unity will be a good idea, especially against a backdrop of Irish nationalists becoming the majority there.
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@bumblebee5818 Really? You fail to put forward a plausible explanation for that statement.
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@bumblebee5818 Yes, but you didn't demonstrate any logical deduction, only a conclusion.
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