Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "Brexit: Should Scotland choose the EU over the UK? | Focus on Europe" video.

  1. One day it will just be England.
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  2. 'Excellent Scottish independence from the UK......of course what they seem to miss is that they will not be independent at all, in fact they will be more shackled by being part of the EU, then they are in the UK.' Hardly. The UK offers nor 'Article 50' for any constituent part to leave the UK; Scotland will be an equal member of the EU once it joins, and will have its own foreign policy, passport, embassies... '...the EU might prove to be their saviour.....as they are likely to reject Scotlands application to join as their economy does not fulfil the most basic EU requirements...' How does not Scotland not fulfill the most basic EU requirements when it already fulfills the most basic EU requirements by virtue of being part of the UK which is a member of the EU? Scotland is likely to be fast-tracked into the EU once it makes its application.
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  3. @Bessie Hillum And why not!
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  4. 'Are we forgetting that Scotland would have to reapply to the EU? An application likely to be blocked by Spain.' No Josh, some of us are just better informed than you. Spain will not block an application to join the EU by an independent Scotland. In fact, Scotland is likely to be fast-tracked into the EU because it already meets most of the criteria. The Scots would have to tighten their belts as they pivot their economy away from England and toward the EU, but that should only take a relatively short time. After a decade or so they will, like Ireland, have an income higher than that of England.
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  5. Well, we don't know that. The national debt needs to the negotiated as part of their independence from Westminster and even then transitional arrangements can be put in place to grant EU accession to Scotland. We know too that the English will show good will to Scotland as the English really value self-determination.
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  6. Yes, and you will have to work out how much keeping a base for your nuclear deterrent is worth to you...
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  7. Oh is the water deep enough?
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  8. How will they be 'ruled by Brussels'?
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  9. If Scotland left the UK and joined the EU it would have 5 million voices WITH over 400 million of the EU, not against.
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  10. 'I don’t understand why Scots would leave the UK due to leaving the EU.' Because Scotland will be equal to the other members within the EU. This differs from the democratic deficit within the UK. In any case, Brexit weakens the UK on the international stage. 'Spain, Portugal and France have already said if Scotland leave the EU then it won’t be accepted into the EU!' None of them have said that. All Spain said was that an Scotland would have to leave the UK and apply to join the EU - it cannot remain in the EU as a separate country without applying first. It is commonly understood that while the Spanish would be nervous about the Catalans, they would not veto an independent country joining the EU. Indeed, Scotland could be fast-tracked into the EU as it already meets much of the criteria to join. 'Why leave a nation that you’re highly dependant on (78% of your trade 82% of jobs ) you couldn’t afford your share of national debt - crippled from the get go!' Because the UK is dominated by the English and their view of the world, their values (which are different to the Scots) and because the Scotland voted to remain in the EU. The national debt has yet to be negotiated. 'I just don’t understand how you can argue independence from a economical prospective. A patriotic one yes, but you’d be a much much poorer country with literally no standing in the world!' Scottish nationalists look at Ireland as an example. It was in the same position as Scotland in 1922 but joined the EEC in 1973, became an equal member of the EU and made a success of it. Now Irish people have a higher income than British people and have a more globalised economy. They're even able to stand up the Brexit Britain because they have 26 other countries behind them. Ireland has a higher international footprint, greater national confidence, an independent foreign policy and its culture punches way about its weight in terms of profile across the world.
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  11. Quebec.
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  12. Its not a contradiction. Scotland requires independence from the Westminster in order to do what is best for the Scotland. Scotland will be doing what is best for Scotland and will be prepared to pool some of its sovereignty with the other EU nations to amplify its power, particularly with regard to its future relationship with England. The idea that small or medium sized countries that are fully independent can be better off alone will be seen to be folly once the UK leaves the EU.
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