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Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "Northern Ireland Protocol ‘must go’, says DUP leader" video.
'The DUP must go', says everybody.
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@asanulsterman1025 I'm neither rabid nor a republican. I'm a tolerant nationalists who believes in things like science and facts.
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The EU has stated once again that it will not reopen the NI Protocol. It is time now for the UK government to fully implement the Protocol and for unionists to grasp the opportunities it provides for Northern Ireland.
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@asanulsterman1025 Yes, we all understood that - those of us who are civic nationalists or civic unionists. But equally, a minority among unionists cannot bomb their way out of the protocol, or kill Catholics just to get their way.
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Mancunian Candidate Yes, I am serious. Who told you that the Nazis were tolerant nationalists? They were ultra ethic Nationalists - like Brexiters on steroids.
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@asanulsterman1025 On what planet do you think the people of Donegal, Monaghan, and Cavan would need to be on to be happy in an independent 9 county Ulster when they are already happy in a 26 county republic? Your ancestors jettisoned those counties in order to create the artificial majority needed to maintain a Protestant state for a Protestant people. How arrogant do you have to be to come looking for them back ?
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The protocol is a consequence of Brexit. It is what you voted for. I don't see why others need to make sacrifices because Brexiters will not adjust their Brexit to acknowledge reality. Besides, only a minority in NI have problem with it.
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@MrFlibbleable No, I am sorry, it very much is a consequence of Brexit. Northern Ireland is not a 'normal' part of the UK. It is contested territory, governed in no small part by an International Peace Treaty to which Brexit forces one side to be a winner or a loser. Its livestock are already classed as Irish rather than British for EU purposes at the behest of the DUP back in the 1990s, and that does not seem to make Unionists feel less British so i don't accept the 'sausage war'. All that is wrong here is that the Unionists engaged in a strategic error and ended up with consequences they were happy for nationalists to have to deal with. What Unionism needs to do is to embrace the opportunities presented by having access too both the UK and the EU markets, as a prosperous NI is unlikely to vote for a united Ireland in the future. First though, the London government needs to implement the Protocol properly.
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'The Protocol is the backstop deal which the Irish demanded.' This is a lie. The Irish demanded to know how the UK planned to keep the border open in Ireland while controlling its own borders and setting its own regulations and standards. Teresa May came up with the Irish Backstop, not Dublin. Dublin supported it. The Irish always knew Brexit was a clusterf*ck, especially in relation to Northern Ireland. Dublin's job was to ensure it was London that carried the can for Brexit in relation to NI, not the Irish. After all, you lot voted for it.
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Its true. The Irish will hold you do it.
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They're in denial.
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Mancunian Candidate Who told you the Nazis were tolerant nationalists?
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@asanulsterman1025 I didn't have you as a mammys boy....
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@asanulsterman1025 Gusty Spense turned out to be a nice man in the end. He understood there needed to be more to loyalism than just killing Catholics everything they had an anxiety attack about something.
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@StoutProper I find it interesting that as a unionist you state you find yourself agreeing with SFs economic policies. As a southern nationalist, I have in the past viewed many of their policies populist and unworkable. Which ones do you like?
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@asanulsterman1025 Who said I was a citizen of the UK living in Ulster? You're some man for jumping to conclusions: first I was a republican, now I'm a UK citizen living in Ulster...what other assumptions have you made?
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@StoutProper 'well we know which side of the fence you sit on, how's the water situation working out for you in Dublin?' I'm sure the water situation is working out fine in Dublin, why do you ask? And what side of the fence do I sit on? As for the rest of our post: Wow!
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The more educated the Protestant, the less likely they are to support the DUP.
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@ulsterman2021 The UK needs to pay the French to patrol their coast in order for the UK to protect its borders. What hope has the UK got in being trusted to implement the protocol.
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@MrFlibbleable I said 'What Unionism needs to do is to embrace the opportunities presented by having access too both the UK and the EU markets, as a prosperous NI is unlikely to vote for a united Ireland in the future.' Northern Ireland is already a social, political and economic failure. I would like to see that change through economic prosperity which having access to the EU Single Market AND the UK market can provide. I believe a united Ireland is inevitable (though not imminent) unless Unionists cop on to themselves and work with nationalists who are happy in the UK at the present time. That is in your strategic interest. 'a long way round just saying you think it’s appropriate that the EU should be able to dictate the movement of goods in another territory, right, got it...' The EU is dictating nothing. It is protecting its own Single Market of which Northern Ireland is still a member. The NI Protocol is the solution offered by London, not by Brussels and it requires checks and controls are there always needs to be between two customs areas. This is a fundamental of international trade, nothing else. Your problem is not with Dublin or Brussels. Your problem is with the DUP and London. And you know it.
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