Comments by "SonsOfLorgar" (@SonsOfLorgar) on "Ryan McBeth"
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Maps, compasses and inertia positioning systems re-zeroed and calibrated at every opportunity.
Idk about the US Army, but my own country still keeps those old school systems around as backup and trains on them.
Hell, I myself could use a pair of binoculars, a map, a compass, scale ruler, a grid paper, a clear plastic disc, a thermometer, a helium balloon on a string and the appropriate ballistics charts for the specific system and ammo availiable to calculate a meteorologically uncertain fire sollution for any form of tube artillery to hit within 100m of the intended target zone on the first ranging shot.
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At my first civilian job, I learned that around the turn of the 19th->20th century, the locals from the Eastern parts of that costal city used to be almost unable to understand the locals from the Western parts...
The reason for this was that the local economy revolved around three things: fairly wealthy inland farmers, and costal workers living off summer time fishing, mostly with nets and cage traps, and winter time harvest of sea weed that they sold as winter cattle feed and fertilizer to the farmers.
Each costal worker had his home, his fishing hut, his boat, his jetty and his fishing waters all in a narrow corridor perpendicular to the beach, and so was the farmers they sold the sea weed to which means that any neighbour they weren't related to or trusted friends with was a cutthroat competitor and the primary suspect for damaged tools or lost catch regardless of seals or other possible natural causes...
Thus, you didn't speak to the bastards over there unless you were forced to. Period.
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@Yukimaru0 sounds like they took a lesson from Sweden, Finland and Norway.
As in, from 1930ies up until the mid 1990ies, Sweden had a bomb shelter subsidy system for property owners, as well as a bomb shelter mandate for appartment/condo buildings and municipal buildings.
You won't find a public library, culture center, city/town/village hall, post ww2 church, shopping mall, health clinic, hospital, senior citizen care facility, public baths, sports centre or mass transit hub without some kind of old bomb shelter, either through a hardened ground floor/basement structure with heavy blast doors recessed into the walls with or without quick-removable cosmetic concealement to be out of the way in peace time.
(Public bomb shelters are marked on the outside of the buildings by a square sign of a, point up, blue like sided triangle inside an orange square.
And then on top of that, there are actual bedrock bunker facilities all under the major cities with access shafts hidden in plain sight in subway stations, utility structures, public service buildings etc.
Enough to protect the entire civilian population at the time from an invasions first strike until preset evacuation protocols could be safely initiated.
Many critical companies also have significant parts of their production facilities in NBC protected bedrock facilities with entrances rated to deflect and shrug off any value proportional ground zero nuclear detonations and EMP without serious interruptions to their work.
And then there's the military and government war cabinet command, navy and airbase bedrock bunkers on top of that, all of them also CBRN sealed and nuclear blast safe with multiple redundancies as well, and, for when turtling up won't work any longer, there were dispersal protocols for everything.
All three countries, both in civilian and military aspects, structured from the ground water table to low sattelite orbit, to be ever ready to face a soviet invasion in a nation wide defense in depth with the last section of every Swedish phone book, titled "If war Comes" declaring EVERY MESSAGE SUGGESTING RESISTANCE SHOULD STOP IS TO BE TREATED AS FALSE!
Meaning the govt can't negotiate surrender as long as there were uncaptured invader troops on Swedish soil as any order to stand down would be ignored by every patriotic civilian and every still combat able member of the armed forces, and with the way the Scandinavian conscript cadre systems were designed, the armed forces would consist of 10<%of the Total population! [10% was in Sweden in the late 1980ies with 8million total population], I expect Finland and Norway to have higher percentages, Norway due to a smaller population, Finland due to both smaller population and cultural mentality.
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@grandgibbon2071 and as for Finland, almost a third of their total population is trained army reserves that would be ready to go with only a couple of weeks of refresher training, with stockpiled weapons and ammo for up to a year of delaying actions and counter attacks while there is also maintained bomb shelters on standby for the rest under every public building, every appartment complex, subway station, movie theatre, shopping mall, almost half of their critical industry are ready to transfer into or already set up in bedrock bunker complexes.
And many of the civilians not placed in the combat reserves are trained for duties in the civil defense.
And also, every Finnish bridge, harbour, highway and runway are built with demolition compartments ready to be loaded and detonated by local defense militia if ordered, militia that is regularly tested for mobilization readyness of less than 6h from beeing alerted at their civilian job to beeing deployed on station.
The system is similiar in the baltic states, and used to be in Sweden too, but there it got dismantled in the 90ies and 00s and is under reconstruction and rearmament since 2010 with the pace of it forced drastically each year since 2014.
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@jgw9990 I'd argue that while the CV90 has not been tested in near peer combat, it is definitely battle and environment tested as well as any competitor, having served in Swedish, Danish, Dutch and Norwegian contingents to UN and EUFOR deployments for over a decade, in places like Liberia and Afghanistan and upgraded accordingly (mainly a crew&dismount compartment climate control system, additional armor all around, improved gun stabilization, improved commanders tac interface, an independent commanders periscope with thermal and image intensifier sights, ECM systems and better IR cammo.
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