Comments by "SonsOfLorgar" (@SonsOfLorgar) on "Task & Purpose" channel.

@fathead8933 the Swedish doctrine was pretty much not much different: Day1 : Home guard militia were to mobilize within hours and provide defence for the trained conscripts to be called up and mobilized and critical infrastructure. Week1: Home guard militia defends critical infrastructure against infiltrated sabotage units, drafted conscript regulars go on refresher training if possible or are sent to engage the invaders bridgeheads to relieve engaged home guard militia as soon as possible. Week 2 to week 52 Home guard units have seized to exist as coherent units and any survivors of military units who are not captured or incapable of fighting are expected to reform independently into guerilla units behind enemy lines as best they could. Mobilized conscript regulars conduct counter attacks and ambushes in a nation wide delaying action until the invader decides to cut their losses and go elsewhere or foreign assistance arrives to help turn the tables and liberate the occupied parts of the country. Civilians are expected to assist the defence efforts to their full ability and refrain from aiding the invader any more than absolutely nessesary for survival under direct threat. The doctrine also states that the government does not have constitutional mandate to even negotiate surrender and that every public message or order to cease resistance or capitulate is false and shall be unconditionally rejected regardless of it's claimed source. The last parts of the doctrine is still in effect.
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@JZ's Best Friend the Carl Gustaf 84mm recoilless has actually been used in combat, by Swedish forces since the 1950's. They were first fired in frustration and anger at Katanga-funded insurgents and mercenaries in base defence and later in the liberation of Elizabethville during the Congo crisis under UN mandate. Later, Swedish forces has also used them in the Balkan wars as part of SFOR and KFOR, and in Afghanistan. They were present in Liberia but I don't think they needed to be used there. And "We" would be Sweden, since Russian despots has been trying to force our country to submit to their "interests" since the 16th century in any way they could, including, but not limited to conquering Finland and the Baltic states, often in collusion with Denmark, the latter which has been interfering with Swedish internal politics and royal lines of succession since before Sweden was unified in the late 10th, early 11th century a handful of decades after Denmark itself was unified under one crown...
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So that's why the conscript duty assigning officer set me up as a radio specialist/squad leader in the battery cmnd squad of a 12cm mortar platoon for my compulsory service training back in 2003. It was a good 10 months in uniform with pretty chill officers and NCOs who cared more about everyone pulling together as a team in the field and that we were able to switch from full rest to full action in the time the radio set alarm of incoming data transmission to finish beeping than about the oppinions of their officer colleagues that we were too relaxed and too often wearing our uniforms out of order on base. They let us know early on, that if we made sure to be the best in the field and where it counted, they would have our backs covered at base, so we made an effort. My squad leader even got a citation from regimental HQ on the second week of basic training for acting to save the life of a civilian woman downtown who he and a couple of other conscripts saw had cut her wrists as they were waiting on transport back to base after visiting an optician for gas mask inserts. We were also sent twice as part of the half company the regiment was required to assign to guarding the two royal Palaces that year... and I doubt we would have been allowed to do that kind of semi ceremonial guard duty with mounted bayonets and live rounds in our FNC rifles around thousands of tourists, citizens and politicians if the higher ups had any doubt in our abilities or dicipline where it counted.
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@myunpopularyoutubechannel That Carl didn't found the city or arms manufacturer that invented this weapon system though...
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@Beggar42 in large part of western Europe, conscription is beeing reintroduced with the Russian attacks on our democratic institutions, attempts to incite civil unrest through sponsoring authoritarian and nationalistic politicians and domestic terrorist movments as well as their undeclared and illegal invasion and partial occupation of Krimea and eastern Ukraine along with war crimes in Syria...
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There are new indoor safeish rounds developed... but I would not trust those sales people unless they demonstrated it themselves... That said, my former militia platoon has used CG mk1s indoors... they were using firing effect devices instead of actual rounds at the time, and the objective was to breach and clear a closed down beet sugar refinery. They emerged into a hallway smack in the middle with opfor at both ends, so they loaded up the CG, pushed it out in the hallway with the firing team sheltering in a doorway perpendicular to the barrel... Then they cleared the rooms by leap frogging in both directions while the MAG '58s maintained hallway overwatch. I wish I had been there to witness, but I joined a year and a half too late.
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@shady473gamingcm3 Also, "If you step on something that click, have a nice flight..."
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And then their shocked piccachu faces as they get hauled off by MPs to court martial for second degree murder...
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I'm partial to the 120mm APTS-HEAT IR-homing round, and our mortars were assigned two platoons of 3 towed 120mm pieces each to one Mech inf. or Tank battalion. The mortar system I was trained on in 2003, which entered service in 1941, is currently beeing phased out of the regular army, replaced with a dual barrel semi-automatic 12cm mortar system in a tracked and fully enclosed IFV platform. The towed mortars are transfered to the national defence militia as a much needed force multiplier.
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@baddog5936 nah, if you've heard of it, they may or may not be working on it still. Though the Carl G mk1 is so easy in construction I could probably make it myself if I get access to a machine shop with a metal lathe and a rifling press with gauges of sufficient size to gradually cut the grooves to specs just from my experience of using it.
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what's the differences between the HEDP and the old HEFRAG? I only served as loader for one of the latter and fired inert HEAT trainer, Smoke and 20mm trainers.
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@adropofmyblood did ya hit it?
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@jwenting I call bs on that.
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I'm a militia platoon radio spec. I stick to my PC or P2iC and try to be as invisible as possible while keeping tabs on the essential coms on every net I've got access to, log as much of the action as I can and try to make sure my platoon doesn't miss out on replenishments of ammo, batteries, water, food, fuel, TP or even recreational bonus supplies, in case the officers might have forgotten it. I try to be a fixer, and so too does the other radio specialist.
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@namelessperson5218 interesting, anyone who wants to be an officer in my country has to do at least 12 months of conscript training where they graduate as a platoon level NCO, then they can go on to the officers academy, get two years of study to become an aspirant with the rank of Seargeant, serve two years assigned to a regiment as training aid for the officers responsible for training new conscripts. They can then be promoted to Jr. Lt. and study for another two years, get promoted to Lt, then serve another two years as platoon level 2iC officers, get promoted to Cpt. Etc. Up to the rank of Lt. Col. Col. and above are ranks only attainable through selection by a council of the higher ranking officers.
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@phantomaviator1318 actually, the CG is a Bofors and Akzo Nobel product, SAAB only became involved when fuses and guidance started getting electronic as SAAB aero is the company that's been responsible for licenced production of air to ground, air to air, surface to air and surface to surface guided munitions. It's also not the same company as SAAB motors (cars) or SAAB Scania, originally known as Scania vabis (3.5<t trucks, semi-trailers and some early Armored fighting vehicles)
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These are the kinds of tricks you pick up over time by beeing smart, creative and understanding both the system and your fellow service members from a genuine care about the purpose of your role rather than just going with the flow like a dead fish. My country is one of the first who adopted it, back in 1958. The first version we adopted was actually chambered in 6.5mm as there were metrick fucktons of the stuff left over from the neutrality watch during WW2 when 6.5 mausers and water cooled 6.5 vickers machine guns were the main work horses of the national armed forces. The FN MAG quickly became one of the corners of a love/hate trinity for the infantry and was eventually re-chambered to 7.62x51mm. The two other corners filled by the Carl Gustaf m/48 and the Ak4, a minor redesign of the H&K G3A3 produced locally under licence. The FN MAG, the CG m/48 and the G3 is still in active service with the national defence militia while the regular army infantry was rearmed with the FN Mini, the FN FNC and the CG m/86 (mk3, steel lined polymer launch tube with half the weight of the all steel CG m/48)
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Agreed, on the same level as other incendiaries and chemical weapons.
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And four of the 20mm training round inserts weigh more than the weapon itself... I've loaded and fired the mk1 a lot in training, and it's hell of fun, especially with full loads a synchronized firing team mate, and an instant cure for clogged sinuses during pollen season XD
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Even on a modern battlefield, IFVs and Armored cars are a bakers dozen per tank, and so is Helicopters and infantry in fortified structures... A CG take out any and all of those at 500$ per round so you kan save the 60'000$ javelins for the few head on engagements with tanks you fail to avoid in time.
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Yup, and shorter, and lighter, and with slightly less rugged accessories that's almost as expensive as Paris Hiltons diamond lace "face mask"
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@johanbergqvist3939 um... no, there is some leeway for squad leaders to organize their squad as they see fit, and I can see how a squad leader would prefer to assume control over his most devastating asset, but if he does, he's misunderstood his role in the battle line completely. His main job is to lead, not to get blown away by the very first return fire for exposing his stupid ass by backlighting himself in perfect siluette with the 4m diameter and 10m long fireball of the back blast. He should, however be in the same half squad as the CG team, with his assistant squad leader commands the machinegun/marksman half squad. The Only support weapons I'd allow a squad leader to handle is a flare gun, laser designator or m209 40mm grenade launcher attatchment. Each Swedish army infantry squad did have one CG and one FN MAG '58 machinegun. I don't know if the FN MAG has been replaced with an FN MINI (collapsible stock) or if the FN MAG is making a return due to it's longer range and penetration power of the 7.62×51 compared to the 5.56×45 of the FN MINI. Despite the complications in ammo logistics when the infantry carry Ak5C (upgraded FN FNC)
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Or GRG as we call it in the Swedish armed forces (Granatgevär-> grenade rifle)
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Only your gucci bag is lined with tungsten ball bearings and covered in diamonds facing sharp end out...
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One, ONE brand new round does have a rocket booster, however that does not make a CG into a rocket/missile launcher any more than the rocket booster of the Excalibur shell makes a m109 Paladin into a SCUD clone...
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Whores and taxi drivers: are we a joke to you?
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@NeuroScientician you can bet your lunch that the tube is only 2000$ of that cost, the rest is the FCS.
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In the Swedish national defence militia, and in the regular armed forces, common practice is to "source" the detatchable shoulder straps of an old LK35 infantry backpack frame and fit both of them to the sling mounts on the CG to carry it like a backpack, ventury down and wrapped with vulkanizing tape or equivalent to shut up the otherwise inevitable bell clang of anything hitting the ventury nozzle (we only get the 14kg mk1 version, the top brass think the lighter polymer ones are too fragile for use in training current and former conscripts, so the newer ones are stockpiled or issued to special forces only) Usually, the contents of the CG gunners assault pack was divided up between his squad mates and the pack itself was used to carry the CG ammo and accessory bags.
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Indeed, and anything less than 20 accurate rounds per minute/team is shameful incompetence. If you can't use the CG more efficiently than a single shot needle rifle, you should go back to basic gunnery school in disgrace.
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The tube is not even 1/100th of that price, it's the electronics and optics fitted to the tube that's costing a leg, an arm and your grandkids college fund for two generations.
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Not quite, it was named after his predecessor, Carl XI who founded Karlskoga, the town where Bofors was founded and still have most of it's production.
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No
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That's the urban combat version of the AT4 iirc
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It's alive and kicking, the AT-4 is a shoot, dump and GTFO supplement against light AFVs.
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Shoulder fired 3.5" field gun goes BOOOM at both ends ^^
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Δημήτρης Ντάβος especially as sociopathic narrcissist politicians and presidents can't use a conscript army to opress their own people as the army IS the people.
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Wrong Carl.
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Sounds like the top brass think numbers on a paper makes soldiers magically appear from nowhere...
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Riight... But no.
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@Taskandpurpose have you seen this airsoft mortar concept? https://youtu.be/MJfzIqtmyZo
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The concept isn't new, but for the CG, it's a new option.
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Thermobarics are not nuclear... dumbass.
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With one round only...
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Red army tankers: why are there owl noises in this boss music?
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Perfect tool for clearing hallways when starting in the middle XD
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Tbh, I'd say they are so similiar in most aspects that operator skills and weapon wear matters more than the differences in gun design. And while the PKM is lighter, it definitely use an obsolete ammo design in the rimmed cases of the 7.62×54R
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