Comments by "SonsOfLorgar" (@SonsOfLorgar) on "Military History not Visualized"
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@arthas640 only one nitpick, the m113s are definitely APCs, the APC concept in and of itself was originally not a combat vehicle concept, but an ambush survivability factor for a personell and materiel shuttle and escort vehicle capable of shifting infantry and their materiel as close behind the contact line as possible through contested zones nominally under friendly control but within range of enemy indirect fire support and risk of ambush by bypassed hidden enemy units or infiltrated raiding parties.
It's armor, mobility and armament designed to allow the formation to either engage and repell, push past, or otherwise extract itself from such an ambush with most of the formation and it's personell/goods intact and alive to complete their mission and report on any surviving enemy ambushers so friendly QRF units or indirect support can finish them off.
The only western APC that, afaik, was designed to take a more active role in direct combat, sometimes leading it to be mislabeled as an early IFV, was the Swedish pbv 302, an APC similiar in layout to the m113 but with dual layer steel spaced armor, hydraulic top hatches, smoke and illumination flare mortars on top for the dismounts, and a one man 20mm autocannon turret in the front right corner. 3man crew and a 10-12man infantry squad in the back armed originally with 2 Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles, 2 FN MAG '58s in 6.5×55mm Swe, 10 kpist m/45, 10 miniman LAWs, and an eclectic assortment of hand grenades and landmines.
Post 1986, the dismounts SMGs had almost been fully phased out for domestic production of HK G3 rifles, the FN MAG '58s had been rechambered to 7.62×51mm and the m72 miniman LAWs beeing gradually replaced with AT4 LAWs.
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Not really, for the other conscription based armed forces in Europe, practice has shown that one to one and a half year is plenty of time to train even complex service roles like tank commanders, airforce ground crew, mechanics for all branches, platoon level NCOs, and even submarine sonar operators or EOD divers and airborne recon special forces.
What it requires, is a core of highly competent and motivated comissioned officers capable of implementing a high tempo of training that inspires a sense of duty, purpose, initiative, self-confidence and trust based in mutual respect between the teenage conscripts and the chain of command.
And, at least in the unit I was assigned to as a 18 years old man, only 13 days after my high school graduation, among over 800 other 18-20 years old men and women conscripts, it worked, and 300 days later, my platoon brought a tear of pride to the eyes of the captain that had been our PC over that time as we presented him with a Tshirt printed with our unit radio callsign on the front, and our unit type map reference icon on the back underlined with the text: In hoc signo vinces!
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