Youtube comments of SonsOfLorgar (@SonsOfLorgar).
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Lol!
As a Swede born in 1984, I just recived a written order in the mail to show up at a specified date and time at a local regiment for service evaluation tests.
After a day of physical, medical and cognitive tests, there was two interviews, one with a psychologist and one with an evaluation and duty assignment officer who issued me the written orders of where and when to report to start my 300days long conscript training to become a fire control comms specialist in a heavy mortar platoon.
In February, the following year, my unit had done it's last training day on our nearest training field before the final exercise in a different part of the country, our CO decided we deserved to celebrate the occation...
By having us unload our day packs from the trucks, have the trucks drive ahead to the base and an NCO return the drivers and have us all march the 20km back to base on foot through up to a foot of old snow at -2°C, and of course, we comms specialists has to carry the two 12kg field radios in addition to our day packs and full combat gear...
When we all made it back, the two mortar platoons were given two magnum bottles ~2×1.2L of champaigne-style soda to share... between roughly 45 soldiers to a platoon... X/
Edit: the order papers also informed me that disobeying those orders is a felony and carries jail time...
At the time, the conscription was compulsory for men, but open for women to volounteer.
The year after I served, a girl who had volounteered interest changed her mind and failed to grasp that once you are listed, the only legal way out is to get rejected at the evaluation.
She was sentenced to one week in prison.
After a hiatus and reactivation in 2014 as a reaction to Russian agression in Europe, it's nowdays compulsory for all genders.
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@alangordon3283 umm... the logistics already changed with this system.
A towed mortar system carries at the most 10-20 rounds/piece of which at least a quarter is smoke shells and all in crates or plastic quivers.
That towed mortar platoon also requires at least one flat bed 4x4 or 6x6 cargo truck for hauling the rest of the ammo on cargo pallets.
The GrkPbv90120 can carry twice the ammount of a towed system just in it's ready racks, and then that ammount again in secondary storage, effectively eliminating the need for ammo trucks in the unit itself as one Mjölner platoon can go back to batallion ammo depot to fill up when down to <30% while the other platoon covers the line companies of the batallion in it's absense until relived.
This along with the fact that the mortars are using the same chassi as the mech inf companys CV9040 IFVs, CV90ARV, CV9040FCV and CV9040FOV as well as the CV9040AAV of the Batallion AA section means the logistics chain of the entire formation has been reduced by an entire link.
On top of that, the towed m1941D/E 12cm mortars the Mjölner replaced was towed either by unarmored 50year old Volvo tgb13 utility trucks(Civ designation volvoC306) or just as old unarmored Hägglunds Bv206 utility tractors...
Both of which just aren't capable of keeping up with CV90/Strv122 battle speed even if the towing vehicles had been factory fresh... which they aren't, the newest were built in the late 1980ies and has been driven around in every weather in every terrain all year round by 18-20yo conscripts, enlisted soldiers and officers both in Sweden and wherever in the world we sent expeditionary contingents under UN or EU command.
While the fact that many of those utility vehicles still serve with tens of thousands of miles on their meters is a true mark of excellence on the quality of their design and the dilligence of Swedish army maintenance procedures, those utility vehicles are like that pair of old, super comfortable sneakers that are litterally falling apart and beeing held together more by ductape, dried sweat and nostalgia than the fabric, glue and rubber they were made of.
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Yeah, in the 18th century, when all ocean going ships were built fairly similiar and all of them had sails, sure, the mistake can be forgiven, but nowdays when most civilian ships are slab sided bulge prowed monstrosities with a fore OR aft sited bridge and a huge single or two side by side funnel.
While warships are built sleek, with sharp prows with or without a bulge, medium to low sides with collapsible wire railing and less exposed funnels, a fore or centre sited bridge more sensor and communication antennae than you can shake a stick at and very obvious gun turrets, CIWS mounts, missile and torpedo tubes...
No, that mistake requires pirates that's flying higher than the ISS on any intoxicants they could afford...
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@omaral-maitah181 this was designed for peer level combat.
In this context, the enemy has located the firing unit down to a 500m radius by the time the first round fired from a new position peaks it's trajectory.
By the time the second round fired peaks, the enemy radars have the firing position coordinates down to a 10m radius and issending those coordinates on to their own counter artillery systems.
60 seconds later, those counter artillery systems are completing the final checks on bearing, elevation and ammo settings before loading.
3minutes after the mortar battery fired it's first round, enemy shells are beeing fired towards the mortar battery position.
4 to 5 minutes after the first mortar round left the tube, an enemy artillery barrage arrives at the firing position.
A towed mortar unit would, at that moment, at best, still be where the enemy shells starts raining death as they jump into their vehicles to move out after packing up their gear...
A Mjölner unit would be 50-100meters away from the firing position the enemy aimed at, moving away at 40-70kph AND protected by the armor of their vehicles.
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@EP-bb1rm
1) the hull, drive train, suspension and layout of the CV90 is tried and tested for both weight capacity, upgrade potential, crew comfort, ease of training ease of maintenance, ease of repair, adaptability and survivability by multiple, independent nations.
It was, after all, designed to be operated, maintained and repaired by 18-20yo conscripts fresh out of school...
2) The company that designed and builds it has been owned by BAE for decades and has already provided the Brittish army with several other long serving vehicles.
3) The CV90 hulls, suspension, tracks and drivetrain could likely be licence built in Brittish factories, ensuring parts availiability in a crisis.
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At least it's not as nasty as the Swedish Stridsvagnsmina 6, a mine that looks a bit like a bowl with straight upper half sides, it's a magnetic HEAT mine with a two step ignition, the first, weak charge, blows away any covering material, then the main charge detonates and sends a HEAT jet into the underside of the vehicle.
The mine has a built in tampering detonator in the bottom which can be prepared with a hair trigger by placing a plastic disc with a small central magnet in a cavity in the bottom of the mine before the mine is buried and armed.
The mine can not be reset or moved once armed or it will trigger the anti-tampering device, it will trigger on any sufficient change in the ambient magnetic field around it, it's battery lasts for more than 6 months, and the anti tampering detonator is also triggered by any attempt to open the battery compartment.
If the magnetic disk is fitted, the anti tampering detonator can, iirc, activate even when the mine has run out of battery for the magnetic main detonator.
Once it's armed, it's removed by blasting it/shooting it on site.
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@Jennaswirly interesting approach to hiking nessecities.
I tend to carry a roll of TP and an entrenching tool as part of my baseline hiking gear, and, if nature calls for nr2, I'd find a tree with a set of branches or a fallen log that would allow for a secure sitting position, dig a 2ft hole underneath that seat location, get the need done, wipe as normal, possibly using some moist white moss for the 2nd to last wipe, then cover the hole and contents back up with the entrenching tool so that nothing looks out of place from more than 10ft distance (an entrenching tool is a small and light foldable and/or break down spade, sometimes with the option of folding the blade to perpendicular to use as a pick or rake, sometimes with an actual pick axe back end, sometimes with sharpened edges or snow shovel module accessory. Each nations armed forces tend to have their own style due to different local needs.)
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@heatherupton6558 most elite sports shooting competitors start when they are around 12-16.
The problem isn't an adolescent child with a gun, the problem is that the US has no third party vetting, gun id registration (aside from transferrable machineguns)iirc, need requirement, safe storage or licence requirements for gun purchase or ownership as well as no public health system.
His parents shouldn't have been able to buy a gun in the first place with their negligent and antisocial attitude, much less buy one for their documented mentally unstable son.
I was 15 myself when I learned to shoot a rifle, and before me or any other of the group of teenagers got to set foot on the range, we had drilled in safe handling, loading, unloading, firing using inert rounds as well as dissasembly, cleaning and reassembly of the old 6.5mm mauser rifles just short of the point where we would have been able to do it blindfolded.
Then, we were presented with a five pages long written range safety test that had a 100% score requirement before we were taken to the range and started firing training.
Two years later, the government took the old mausers away and gave us actual .22LR sporting rifles instead. The year after that, two weeks after graduating my countrys equivalent of high-school, I started my 300 days of compulsory conscript training, including two tours of guard duty at the royal palace, as one of fifty 18yo boys and girls with mounted bayonets and half a magazine of live 5.56x45mm FMJ rounds in our automatic carbines, in the center of a tourist packed European capitol, day and night for a total of six days per tour.
The only incidents involving firearms during my conscript training was a guy in another regiment that we were informed of through the chain of command who removed his blank firing device and comitted suicide with a wood bullet blank, four weeks before all of our years batch of conscripts would have been released back to civilian life.
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Maps, compasses and inertia positioning systems re-zeroed and calibrated at every opportunity.
Idk about the US Army, but my own country still keeps those old school systems around as backup and trains on them.
Hell, I myself could use a pair of binoculars, a map, a compass, scale ruler, a grid paper, a clear plastic disc, a thermometer, a helium balloon on a string and the appropriate ballistics charts for the specific system and ammo availiable to calculate a meteorologically uncertain fire sollution for any form of tube artillery to hit within 100m of the intended target zone on the first ranging shot.
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Your reflection on time and resource constraints bringing a more professional and problem solving attitude was very interesting from a Swedish perspective.
It brought the Swedish reputation for professionalism in international peace keeping/ peace forcing operations into a new context.
The new context beeing that the Swedish armed forces are built around a system of cadre officers who in peace time are serving a level below their rank and station than when mobilised along with compulsory conscript selection and compulsory training if selected for everyone at 18 since 2017 (it used to be compulsory for boys until 2006 and optional for girls between 1990 and 2006).
The conscript training lasts 7.5months for privates, 10months for squad leaders and specialists, 12 and 15 months for platoon and company NCOs respectively.
Navy does things differently in service length.
Also, the equipment used used to be rotated mobilisation stores, which meant limited availiability and anything that broke should be repaired in the field if possible or handed on to repair techs when back at base.
And considdering that those 18yo conscripts, less than two weeks out of high school who's drivers licences are so fresh the ink is barely dry on the temporary slip issued while the actual licence is made (driving age is 18 in Sweden), should be fully trained for every role assigned within those time frames, from grunts to sonar operator, attack divers, combat medics, tank commanders and strike aircraft controllers...
Under those conditions, there's little to no time for faffing about with anything that isn't absolutely essential to the service at hand.
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@LuisAldamiz there is definitely Russian agression in Europe, both the occupation of the Crimean peninsula with it's mock election, the puppet occupation of Eastern Ukraine to create a lawless buffer zone outside Russian borders and smaller things like air attack practice runs against Swedish cities by Russian aircraft capable of carrying cruise missiles with a stand off range far longer than the domestic and commercial water zones around Sweden. Active information warfare against Swedish infrastructure and key ministers and politicians as well as active support for domestic terrorists inside Sweden like the nazi organisations NMR and Sverigedemokraterna, though the latter are of course feigning ignorance and act as if the accusations are false in contradiction to the tons of circumstantial evidence leaking like a siv from their own organization.
And yes, conscription is reactivated since 2014 and from the growing number of fresh conscripts and professional soldiers I've encountered in my ten years of service in the home guard militia, they are more motivated, more concious about their actions and just as skilled as any american private.
The defence budget doesn't allow for training all of the high school graduates each year, so only the best and least averse are selected and the 8years when conscription was abolished meant that all the old officers with Preussan ideas of dicipline and hazing had retired or been laid off when it got restarted, making for a much better training system focused on positive reinforcement that promotes active thinking soldiers on all levels and more unit synergy and initiative taking than before.
And even before, from the Congo crisis to the Balkan peace forcing missions and the aborted mission in Afghanistan, the tendency of Swedish units and individual soldiers to act first on the information at hand towards the purpose of their presence and let the brass sort out any political mess later is what built our reputation as honest, reliable and fair peace keepers and enforcers that, unlike a sad number of others, won't participate in or tolerate extortion, corruption or trafficking and will do whatever we need to protect local civilians and ourselves even to the point of ignoring unreasonable politically motivated restrictions to the RoE when those restrictions are incompatible with the local situation on the ground under both UN and EU flags.
As for Russia, it's the government that's the problem, not the people.
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@TynaDii tbh, the whole Nordic industry is pretty much unified and intertwined across our respective borders since several decades ago, both in food, media and heavy industry like steel, electronics, robotics, household goods, industrial tooling, pharmaceuticals, mineral extraction and refining, aerospace, ship building logistics and defense.
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And then there's the motorized home guard light infantry.
Organised in rapid reaction companies and batallions either in Bv206 tracked all terrain utility vehicles or modified Mercedes Sprinter vans.
Kitted out very similiar to the armored infantry dismounts only with Ak4C (G3, Spuhr adjustable stock) battle rifles with either aimpoint red dot or refurbished 3x DMR scopes, a number of m203 launchers/platoon a couple of Ksp 58 (FN MAG), a couple of Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles, some at4s, a k9 search team, and on batallion level, more land mines and explosives than what's healthy around creative part time trained militia troopers where many platoon and squad leaders are KFOR/IFOR/Afghanistan veterans and a single platoon can have everything from HR management to water treatment techs, radar&radio maintenance and installation specialists, construction workers and high voltage electricians...
And since a few years back, the home guard has their own integrated 12cm mortar platoons crewed by former artillery and mortar conscripts using the towed 12cm m/41 mortars the army abandoned when the Mjölner CV90120 mortar system entered service.
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@chakfungcheung3318 You are so mind numbingly wrong it's tragic.
The phasing out of the Gladius stemmed from a change in military strategic doctrine due to economic, social, political and religious changes of the Roman Empire, not in the tech level of their surrounding adversaries.
And a long slashing weapon like a falchion, sabre, tulwar or katana is far worse against armored infantry than a short stabbing and chopping sword with a reinforced armor piercing tip like many late pattern gladii.
The Gladius was, in fact not replaced by the spatha in the role of a main weapon, the Spatha, in fact, was a sidearm, as the late imperial Legions, separated into border guards (Limitaneii) and mobile strike forces (Comitatenses) used heavy melee spears and throwing darts with flat, large oval shields as main weapons.
I am unsure if the Pugio dagger still remained as a standard issue secondary backup by that time.
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Use the tools and knowledge you have accumulated to support and guide the resistance then, there is always something to do, either by teaching or by designing and crafting tools.
My country has one standing order for all residents over 16yo not just citizens, in case of war that has been in effect since 1939:
Every message suggesting resistance should cease is to be treated as false.
Ie: Nobody at any level, not even the government or the monarch, has any mandate to negotiate a cease fire, surrender or peace treaty as long as there is any invaders or enemy puppets inside our borders.Use the tools and knowledge you have accumulated to support and guide the resistance then, there is always something to do, either by teaching or by designing and crafting tools.
My country has one standing order for all residents over 16yo not just citizens, in case of war that has been in effect since 1939:
Every message suggesting resistance should cease is to be treated as false.
Ie: Nobody at any level, not even the government or the monarch, has any mandate to negotiate a cease fire, surrender or peace treaty as long as there is any invaders or enemy puppets inside our borders.
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@michaeldayman682 Or, how about, they intended "a well regulated militia" to actually mean the plain definition of the words: A militia: An military formation of civilian private citizens organised to train as such in times of peace for common defense of their community in times of crisis or war.
And regulated in that context would mean those citizens, among themselves has defined and appointed persons to fulfil the essential leader, logistics, communications and medic roles within their group as well as defined rules and procedures for training, equipment, maintenance, supply gathering, insignia, impeachement procedures, recruiting procedures, sanction/exclusion procedures etc.
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@geofflepper3207 they do, the counties that have supported Ukraine the most in terms of hardware and reciving Ukranian refugees is Poland, The Baltic countries, Finland and Denmark.
The Baltic countries wasted no time at all in sending all the military hardware that Sweden had donated to them back in the 1990ies, hardware that, while often obsolete, has shown itself to be highly capable when used against suitable targets, Denmark donated their entire artillery supply, Sweden donated half of our Artillery, all of our most updated world leading version of IFVs and a company of the best armored MBTs in Europe as well as domestically produced manpads, anti-ship missiles, small arms, LAWs, recoilless rifles, combat boats RIBs, armored and unarmored amphibious tracked utility haulers and almost 200 APCs with slightly better properties to US m113s.
The biggest European procrastinator is Germany.
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The thing with the Swedish costal artillery is that it always consisted of a static and a mobile element.
The static element was responsible for the costal batteries, mine stations, surveillance radars, fort defense infantry & AAA and logistics. The mobile element consisted of amphibious infantry, costal rangers, assault and pioneer/EOD divers, sea mine laying division, light and heavy surface launched anti ship missiles, mobile anti ship artillery (120mm clip fed self-deploying towed gun-howitzers) and mobile costal defense AAA & SAMs as well as the marine helicopter division. (Boeing sea-knight and Super Puma utility helicopters kitted for Sea search&rescue in both peace and war, SF insertion/extraction and submarine hunting in littoral archipelagos and at sea.)
It was the Swedish costal artillery helicopters and their surface rescue operators who, in mid storm at night, rescued those that survived the MS Estonia passenger ferry disaster.
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We had seargeants that would take their field jackets off, lay on the floor on their chests and slide under all the beds.
If they had any dust or dirt on their pine green undershirt when they got up, from any of the four barracks rooms, the whole platoon had to clean all of their assigned areas again, same if they found any dust on their black tanker beret after swiping the window spars or the boards around the door frame or the top of the lockers with it.
Also, our female sgt. had a tendency to wear white cotton gloves during weapon inspections, and she could get her pinky finger into places on our modified FNC carbines we conscripts couldn't reach with a cotton swab or even a smoking pipe cleaner...
Commonly, we locked up our carbines due to time constraints long before she was satisfied with the inspections...
And we were a 12cm mortar platoon! If we had to rely on our carbines in direct combat, odds are, most of the battalion we belonged to would already be or about to be KIA, MIA or POWs...
Don't regret pushing through those 300 days though, and nowdays I'm doing the same thing I did then, 16 years ago, only as part time national defence militia and with an older, G3 based battle rifle instead of an FN FNC based carbine.
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The list is also a bit misleading as Leopard 2 tanks are used in at least 7 different variants, with two different guns, different electronics, different armor composition, different armor layout, different armor thickness, different hatch designs, different sensors, different radios, different commanders interface, different drivervision options, different active and passive countermeasures.
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@pistonburner6448 the Swedish dispersion system isn't even a shed, it's six pre-trained airforce conscripts and a professional technical officer with three trucks with trailers and an escorting base security conscript platoon heading out to a straight, pot hole free section of country road, closing it off at both ends, sweeping the worst debris off the road, set up a turnover area on a rest stop zone and activates a radio beacon...
Two planes come in, lands, reverses into the turnover area under their own power, gets rearmed and a hot refuel by four of the conscripts, the technical officer and the other two conscripts takes the log dump and gives the planes an external inspection while the pilots gets a snack and some hot beverage and/or gets out to relieve themselves as quick as possible and back up on the next sortie 10-15minutes later, and with the planes gone, the ground crew with escorts yeets themselves out of there to top up on AV fuel, ordnance and then head out to their next, different stretch of road.
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Yup, it was originally designed as an ambush weapon for island hopping amphibious infantry of the Swedish Costal Artillery.
And island is doing a lot of heavy lifting in the context. (Typical Swedish archipelago= area of 40-150 granite cliffs sticking out of the sea in a cluster at the mouth of a river estuary where about half are no bigger above the surface than an average family car, but many are around the size of a hockey rink and the largest are about the size of a major international airport, and any islet big enough to have cracks that's accumulated permanent soil is covered in pines, juniperbushes and thorny wild raspberry vines, with many housing one or more fishing huts, hamlets and summer cottages with jettys and private boats or public commuter ferry stops.
Some of those cottages or fishibg huts however, were not what they appeared to be, they hid bunker entrances in plain sight, and inside those bunkers were small three-five man sonar, or radio listening posts that also controlled a number of local permanent seabed mine blockades that crisscrossed every approach along the entire Swedish coastline deep enough for a soviet ro-ro ship or wide enough for a zubr assault hoovercraft prior to 2003 when the entire Costal Artillery branch was disbanded to enable political tax cuts for the capitalist class...
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@arthas640 only one nitpick, the m113s are definitely APCs, the APC concept in and of itself was originally not a combat vehicle concept, but an ambush survivability factor for a personell and materiel shuttle and escort vehicle capable of shifting infantry and their materiel as close behind the contact line as possible through contested zones nominally under friendly control but within range of enemy indirect fire support and risk of ambush by bypassed hidden enemy units or infiltrated raiding parties.
It's armor, mobility and armament designed to allow the formation to either engage and repell, push past, or otherwise extract itself from such an ambush with most of the formation and it's personell/goods intact and alive to complete their mission and report on any surviving enemy ambushers so friendly QRF units or indirect support can finish them off.
The only western APC that, afaik, was designed to take a more active role in direct combat, sometimes leading it to be mislabeled as an early IFV, was the Swedish pbv 302, an APC similiar in layout to the m113 but with dual layer steel spaced armor, hydraulic top hatches, smoke and illumination flare mortars on top for the dismounts, and a one man 20mm autocannon turret in the front right corner. 3man crew and a 10-12man infantry squad in the back armed originally with 2 Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles, 2 FN MAG '58s in 6.5×55mm Swe, 10 kpist m/45, 10 miniman LAWs, and an eclectic assortment of hand grenades and landmines.
Post 1986, the dismounts SMGs had almost been fully phased out for domestic production of HK G3 rifles, the FN MAG '58s had been rechambered to 7.62×51mm and the m72 miniman LAWs beeing gradually replaced with AT4 LAWs.
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Heh! In my final exercise of conscript training, we got overrun by AFVs twice without previous warning...
Only we crewed 12cm mortars with a 300m physical min range, so no direct fire option.
First time by a T-72 run by a crew from the army ground combat school.
Second time by two CV9040, we knocked the first one out, the second returned the favour...
Good side is, first encounter was just at the end of that day of exercises, so we got to chat with the tank crew and watch the vehicle up close.
And the second encounter took place near a training field administration complex where the commisary field van was located, so we spent the time until 'revival' snacking, smoking and resting in the warm (~18°C) spring sun on top of our Volvo ATVs with most of our combat kit stowed on our seats. If we didn't keep our rifles, helmets and gas masks within arms length at all time during field exercises, the seargeants (who in the Swedish army are officers cadets in field training) got creative to drive the lesson home.
The consequence of the latter was apparent at least once among swedish peace keepers in the balkan wars when at least one Swedish soldier engaged the attackers of his outpost in nothing but helmet, webbing and boxer shorts as he'd been resting when shit hit the fan.
And he stayed in his position for a few hours until he got relived.
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@goblinwisdom and in Sweden there's a similiar arrangement in some municipalities and others are free, only there are no land fills/dumps anymore, only recycling centers, and most municipalities have fractional sorted household waste too. I have two 340L waste containers at my property line, each with an inner divider and a twin container insert. The bigger fractions are for paper packaging, plastic packaging, newspapers and combustibles. The small ones are for compostables, metal packaging, coloured glass and uncoloured glass.
Then there are two small containers that can be hooked on for emptying when needed for light sources, batteries and smaller household electrical appliance waste (like broken computer mice, remotes, toys etc)
And for large appliances and other cumbersome waste that is hard to take to the recycling center myself, I can call or go online and shedule a pickup at the road by my property line a limited number of times per year. All of it already included in the mandatory waste handling fee of the equivalent of ~60USD
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@icarusproject the bunkers, fixed artillery batteries and sea mine chains are decomissioned, yes, but the old costal forts are too massive to destroy on economic factors alone. Some have been sold to civilians and converted to buisnesses, museums or private homes.
Most have just been emptied of valuable or sensitive equipment and electronics, had their entrances filled with sand and sealed off with civilian grade rebar concrete slabs.
The networked defence doctrine is still alive and kicking.
A JAS39 can still recive target data and engage using the sensors of a Visby corvette, a CV9040AAV, an ARTUR counter battery radar, the tracking radar of a truck mounted Rbs15 anti-ship missile battery or a SAAB 2000 AWACS as if it was it's own onboard sensors, and in many cases, the other direction is also possible.
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@fgb3126 littering and polluting, yeah, that's worthy of a good ass kicking and jail time
Tresspassing on land that's not actively in use for other things... that is morally debateable.
In my own country, everyone has the right to roam and camp on any non-cultivated land without asking for land owner permission under the conditions that one does no lasting harm to the ground or to any living plants or animals, avoid gardens/lawns around houses, leave the camp site without prompt and with no more than compacted grass and any fire or latrine pits properly covered free of inorganic waste and don't otherwise disturb the peace.
We are even allowed to forage berries and mushrooms, and collect dead firewood from the ground.
Breaking or cutting anything from standing trees or bushes without provable land owner permission or walking through a farmers field is, however, criminal property damage and taking crops, no matter how little, is criminal theft.
It's also illegal to take a motor vehicle offroad without written and registered special permit.
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Not really, for the other conscription based armed forces in Europe, practice has shown that one to one and a half year is plenty of time to train even complex service roles like tank commanders, airforce ground crew, mechanics for all branches, platoon level NCOs, and even submarine sonar operators or EOD divers and airborne recon special forces.
What it requires, is a core of highly competent and motivated comissioned officers capable of implementing a high tempo of training that inspires a sense of duty, purpose, initiative, self-confidence and trust based in mutual respect between the teenage conscripts and the chain of command.
And, at least in the unit I was assigned to as a 18 years old man, only 13 days after my high school graduation, among over 800 other 18-20 years old men and women conscripts, it worked, and 300 days later, my platoon brought a tear of pride to the eyes of the captain that had been our PC over that time as we presented him with a Tshirt printed with our unit radio callsign on the front, and our unit type map reference icon on the back underlined with the text: In hoc signo vinces!
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@pokekick4185 no, siege engines aside from rams, siege ramps, countervallations and other earthworks, siege engines such as catapults, trebuchets etc. was not built on site as they require seasoned wood, precisely cut joins, precision forged metal details and carefully constructed leather and rope rigging or the precision would be worthless and the forces of launching their payload would sooner or later pull the machines apart with disastrous casualties among the rare, highly educated and skilled operators.
They were, however, commonly transported dissasembled, like sinister giant IKEA predecessors.
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@00yiggdrasill00 both, every soldier has the same infantry basic training for organised self defense, but specialist assets like artillery, air defense, Electronic warfare etc, need escorting troops to create local safe zones, and artillery needs to move around, often.
You can only send one firemission per battery site or you'll get located and counter batteried to mince meat by anything the opfor can find to throw at you. Even if they have to sacrifice a full mechanized company or even risk loosing an attack helicopter to eliminate a single mortar platoon, they will throw those assets away in a heartbeat without remorse.
Mortars in urban combat is that dangerous and versatile. Especially 12+cm mortars that can set FRAG fuses to airburst, contact or delayed, smoke and starshells can also be set to ignite well after they are intended to, so that they fill a house with smoke or set it on fire instead of smoking off a street or turning a dark city sector into eerie daylight with long, fast moving shadows.
And then there's heat seeking top hitting anti tank shells, and I'm pretty sure the russians have mortar deployed anti personell landmines...
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@1chish the difference is that the Challengers logistics chain starts in the UK and has no other source.
A Leopard2 logistics chain starts in Poland, another in Germany, a third in Sweden, a fourth in France, a fifth in Italy a sixth in Austria, a seventh in Denmark, an eight in Canada, a ninth in Norway, a tenth in Turkey, an eleventh in Spain etc., as all those countries either uses the Leopard 2, builds their own variant under licence or has their own MBT that uses the same 120mm NATO standard ammo.
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Swedisk defense equipment isn't reliant on sattelites, sattelite navigation is a bonus if availiable, but as we were not members of NATO when our equipment was designed we couldn't expect them to allow full, or any, sattelite use in case of war.
Even today, conscripts training on Archer and Mjölner artillery systems, are first trained how to manually extrapolate firing data from compilations of map coordinates, compass values, meterological data collected by the army meterological corps, geomagnetic deviation tables and ammo ballistics tables modified by powder temperature and shell weight tolerances and inertial navigation positioning from millions of fixed physical calibration nodes.
GPS is a luxury only Americans can rely on.
And as for communications, the oldest backup system still in Swedish service is a 2×1.5v battery powered m/37 field telephone using a simple steel or copper single pair telephone wire that can be completely rebuilt in the field with nothing more than a few scavenged resistors, diodes, capacitors, a flat screwdriver and a heat source for soldering.
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@spartanx9293 then what makes it so inferior? What is your benchmark criteria?
And what is the competing vehicle(s) you see meeting those criteria here and now without modification or development from their current state?
As for if/which of the other variants availiable would be desirable, that would be a doctrinal decision I can't speculate on due to insufficient knowledge.
But from a logistical standpoint, it's very sensible to use the same platform for as many nessesary vehicles as possible in each respective weight class just for parts intergangeability, ease of maintenance, ease of supply and ease of training.
Eg, when an IFV breaks down or is damaged, it's going to be a lot less of a logistics load if the mechanics doesn't have to have 5 different spare parts kits for similiar vehicles of different chassi in a single mechanised company.
As in, each mechanised company in a Swedish mech inf formation comes with a number of IFVs, FOV, FCV and ARV, all on the CV90 chassi, increasing the margins between full strength and strategically defunct as the crews and vehicles and spare parts are almost completely interchangeable without retraining.
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There needs to be a class action lawsuit to demand corporate crime renders the company in it's entirety into the tool of those crimes and, as such subject to criminal asset forfeiture.
Ie: use your buisness to comitt crimes=everything that the buisness encompasses, IP, land, buildings, physical property, bank accounts, etc. gets taken by the DoJ, split up and sold at executive auction, the employees get a 12m severance package, any customers with outstanding balance is refunded and the rest is transfered to the treasury, but the company's debts remain with the owners to pay as private individuals as best they are able...😈
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@MrChaddb says the brainwashed boot licker...
If you try to understand the ideas behind the ideology instead of clinging to your internalized panic triggers, you would realize that:
1: socialism =/= communism =/=stalinism =/= maoism
Just like conservativism =/= nationalism =/= capitalism =/= fascism =/= naziism.
2) while no -ism is realistic, most have smaller or bigger merits in their ideas and visions that can't be judged on their attempted implementation.
3) the failure of supposedly communist states such as the USSR, Communist china, Cuba etc, all boils down to a totalitarian/authoritarian delusion that the ends justify the means.
I, don't cling to communism, it's utopian ideals are desirable, but just won't work IRL due to human differences and forcible implementation never works on top of beeing intolerably unethical.
As for myself, I'm a democratic socialist, nothing more, nothing less.
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Iirc the reload is faster because the M270 has a built in reloading crane frame as part of the launcher.
The crew just swings out the launcher to the side, slides out the crane frame, then the spent rocket packs on rails half way, attatch them to the crane frame, slide them out the rest of the way, lowers them to the ground, hooks up fresh rocket/ATACAMS packs, winch the new ones up, hook them onto the rails, detatch the crane frame, slide the fresh packs in place and lock them in, retract the crabe frame and then ready to go.
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@tricksl8r then let me tell you a story of how I realized what a cell phone really means.
On my grandfathers 70th birthday in the early 90'ies, his children and their spouses had bought him a GSM cell phone, one of the first models small enough to actually fit into a pocket when the lid with the mic was folded over the buttons and the antenna was collapsed.
It used the full, credit card sized SIM card behind a NiCd battery that lasted just over two days on standby and maybe two to three hours of active talking.
And just a two row monochrome LCD screen of the same type as the pocket calculators of the same time.
Either way, I didn't umderstand at the party what all the fuzz was about.
A few months later, 7ish years old me was home alone after school, waiting for my parents to come home from work when the phone rang.
I went in to the kitchen and picked it up, turned out it was grandpa.
And the silly git tried to fool me into thinking he was calling from the front entry stairs when there was no phone there, and the nearest phone booth was 300m away at the town bus stop!
So I called him out, but the old geezer insisted I should go out on the balcony to check, so I put the phone handset down on the counter and went out as he asked, and, down on the stairs he sat, talking in that motorola cell phone!
My mind was blown...
(My parents didn't have a cordless phone at home back then, though we probably did have more computers than most other people in the town (four different stationary Apple computers and dial-up internet connected to two of them, not that there was anything to do online yet for a kid who didn't know English)
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@TastingHistory regarding the essentiality of coffee and other stimulants in armed forces, there is a story from the Swedish KFOR contingent where they alledgedly had been without snus for a whole week. Swedish snus is fermented and flavoured ground up and moisturised tobacco, used by stuffing a pre-made bag or self-packed pillow of it under the upper lip and much preferred among conscripts and officers as it, unlike smoked tobacco, does not reveal your position with a suicidally glowing ember.
Either way, the comissary of the base ran out of it, and a week later, the base got notified that the next shipment was on a UN marked truck currently illegally blocked by a Serbian border checkpoint, the checkpoint commander demanding a bribe to let it pass.
As the news got around, it reached the captain of the Swedish contingent stationed there, a mechanised company, over 80% of them heavy users...
As such, to prevent a direct mutiny, the Captain formulated a mission and asked for volounteers to escort the supply truck back to base.
There were too many volounteers, so he took one platoon, loaded them up in four Pbv302 (APCs) and set off.
As they arrived, he informed the checkpoint commander of his desire to have the truck let through immediately.
As the checkpoint commander insisted on his bribe first, the Captain proceeded to let the four APCs, line up their 20mm autocannons on the checkpoint and instead explain to the Serbian commander that he and his soldiers had been without nicotine for over a week, the next delivery was on that truck, and the instruction to let it pass was not a request, there wouldn't be any bribes, and that the checkpoint commander better think over his next decision veeery carefully...
Turned out, discretion was the better part of valour, "diplomacy" won and only egos were bruised that day😁
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At my first civilian job, I learned that around the turn of the 19th->20th century, the locals from the Eastern parts of that costal city used to be almost unable to understand the locals from the Western parts...
The reason for this was that the local economy revolved around three things: fairly wealthy inland farmers, and costal workers living off summer time fishing, mostly with nets and cage traps, and winter time harvest of sea weed that they sold as winter cattle feed and fertilizer to the farmers.
Each costal worker had his home, his fishing hut, his boat, his jetty and his fishing waters all in a narrow corridor perpendicular to the beach, and so was the farmers they sold the sea weed to which means that any neighbour they weren't related to or trusted friends with was a cutthroat competitor and the primary suspect for damaged tools or lost catch regardless of seals or other possible natural causes...
Thus, you didn't speak to the bastards over there unless you were forced to. Period.
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It makes perfect sense to everyone who has the slightest knowledge of the difference in philosophy and implementation differences in Muskovite and Western artillery tactics and equipment.
Russian artillery tactics hasn't changed since 1918...
Western artillery tactics has revolutionised three times over since 1940.
And the main difference is in fire control and accuracy.
The Russians still rely on sheduled bombardments, and their forward observers are there to observe and correct the fall of shot, not call in the actual firemissions. And it's the same with their air support. There is no cross-branch communication, and the only coordination is conducted at Divisional HQ level. Thus, millions of Russian artillery rounds are wasted on shelling empty positions, or even their own positions if an abandoned position was taken ahead of shedule because the time table at the artillery battery command says so...
By contrast, the western artillery provided to Ukraine along with the training to implement it as intended, was developed as a cog in an integrated system where any field officer can request artillery support and is then alotted a time window and a max number and types of shells to use with a designated artillery formation as the field officer sees fit. During that time window, that field officer is in direct real time data format communication with and in direct command over that artillery formation and can send fire missions with target data directly into the artillery formations ballistics calculator where the battery control operators just check that the sender ID, fire mission reference code and target values are correct inside safety parameters and then execute the firemission, meaning that no shells are fired at empty positions, but also that the time delay between a target getting spotted and shelled effectively can be as short as 90 seconds, with as little as one to five shells at a time.
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Nope, this is just detailed time table planning on a larger scale than usual, which is why it also goes to shit so very spectacularily when one or more parts of that time table can't be met by the assigned troops on the ground, as every subsequent step that relied on those that failed to complete their objectives on time ends up going in unsupported and exposed...
The Russian command structure simply doesn't allow combined arms operations because each officer is only told exactly his own part when his troops is expected to do it, and nothing more, no strategic objectives, not the intent of the local operation, no information of what the units beside his are intended to do, and no room for taking personal initiatives of any kind.
And if he wants any kind of support outside the time tables, that request has to go all the way up to theatre HQ, get processed and either approved and worked into the artillery or air support time tables or denied outright.
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@JohnRodriguesPhotographer that's why there's also repetition training every few years, and why the only thing that would change between conscript training and mobilization is that the platoon would get a different CO, a lieutenant, instead of the captain that was in charge of the training as the entire officer cadre would take the war time station of their rank instead of the peace time station a step or two below their actual rank compared to professional armies.
Also, as for initiative and capability, that's a doctrinal issue, partially of the initial screening.
When you process every single 17yo in the country every year with medical, psychological and physical capacity tests and select the most suitable of those to each of the required service stations for the following year until the units that are to be trained that year are filled and a number of the next bests records are kept as a reserve in case of any primary assignees beeing unable or unwilling to report for training duty, any potential recruits with a few short of a six-pack doesn't even get selected for grunt service.
(Lack of a valid, pre-aproved, reason to refuse to report for training is a felony that carries up to 6months prison time)
Also, the specific total defence doctrine has a few prioritised principles:
1) it's always better to do something a bit wrong within the intent of the objectives without an order than to do nothing for fear of not doing perfect.
2) every message instructing surrender is false.
(Our government, prime minister and parliament doesn't have any constitutional mandate to negotiate or order a surrender, and neither does the monarch anymore iirc)
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@attilakatona-bugner1140 Swedish armies would likely be able to do something similiar but to a somewhat lesser quality due to engineering experience with canals and locks to connect our waterways across the entire Scandinavian part of the country, the construction of Stockholm and all the canals, locks and bridgeworks necsessary to get any kind of industry at all going in the eastern half that is now a free, happier, Finland.
A huge part of central Stockholm is still resting on 16th to 18th century tree trunks pole hammered down through water, mud and silt to bedrock. This became an ever more acute problem when the city started building tunnels and culverts for sewage, gas pipes, electricity, subways, roads and a veritable warren of maintenance, evacuation tunnels and various defense related underground facilities as all these works required temporary or permanently lowering of the water table around them. That in turn, exposed the tops of those centuries old trunks to air, fungi and insects that had been kept away by the practically oxygen free groundwater, and the wood started rotting under the equally old foundations of the three to six floor high, sometimes culturally invaluable stone houses above which started to crack.
Sollution: go down into the basement or lowest floor, open up the foundations and weld a lifting beam grid underneath the house one at a time, lift it up on hydraulic jacks and level it off, then, through the floor, sink new reinforced concrete poles in tiny sections into the mud using mini pole hammers down to the bedrock and then weld them to the lifting grid, remove the jacks fill up the void and cast a new reinforced concrete foundation below the old one around the lifting grid...
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Same, though we, like everyone else also have some just as nasty slime in the bottom of the barrel.
Or at least, had, I've gotten the impression that the temporary hiatus of conscript service and the accompanying mass demilitarization, while a disaster on the materiel and facilities side to the point where I considder it criminal destruction of public property, has also washed out a lot of the really bad, penalistic, sexist and authoritarian disgraceful officers that were able to hide their abusive nature in the old system by covering up eachothers crimes against conscripts and cadets alike in a way that became impossible in the near decade long era of contract employed soldiers of all ranks that's now gradually beeing replaced with a new mix of contract employed and conscripts, though I understand it as if individual battalions are single form, either contracted full time, contracted part time or conscript but not mixed.
And Home Guard separate but with a much higher and earned status than in the old system.
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Old Swedish cold war doctrine was to 1) make your own door with a Carl Gustaf HEAT shell just below a window where the radiators usually sits on the inside. If possible, a half or one stair above ground level.
2) Clearing team rushes forward from a protected position as close to the target as possible, either riding on top of an APC/IFV/Tank or carrying ladders.
If riding on an APC/IFV/Tank, the vehicles main or coax&pintle guns are used to further supress the breaching zone while the support section that opened the hole shifts fire to supress the floors above, and side platoons provide flank cover vs. other streets and buildings.
If no vehicle is used, the first thing up the ladder is a frag grenade.
The breeching team secures the breech and adjacent rooms, then estimate the protective value of the interior walls.
3)A second squad is sent in, if the walls around the entry zone or one of the adjacent rooms is solid enough to stop splinters, the second squad applies plastic explosives to the roof and blows a hole up. A frag goes up, then the second squad pushes up and clears that entry zone, rinse and repeat until the attic is reached, then clear the building top down.
Any connected buildings were to be accessed through making breaches through the attics.
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@marty9376 yeah, I visited Verdun, Vaux, Fort Douamont and the ossuary less than a month after my 300day conscript training was over.
In february 2004, I was part of a well drilled battery control squad for three 12cm mortars firing dozens of 13kg airburst fuse shells a day 7.5km across a training field to targets someone else had measured in and observed.
Three weeks later I stood and saw the countless white crosses and the belived impregnable forts, battered to less than the medieval church ruins in my childhood county, together with my father, a retired coastal artillery officer, my uncle, an airline pilot who started his flying career in a jet fighter, and my grandfather, retired printer and entrepreneur who had served as a staff officer's driver while ww2 raged on the other side of our borders.
It was a highly emotional experience, one of sorrow, of frustration and existential contemplation.
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From a Scandinavian point of view, the US waste handling system sounds so 1970ies that I'm getting cross eyed from rolling my eyes too hard.
Over here, nobody has more than 15minute drive to a major public recycling center, our dual street side garbage cans has a total of 8 internal compartments: paper packaging, plastic packaging, metals, compostables, coloured glass, uncoloured glass, newspapers and combustibles. There's also two hang-on boxes for batteries, light sources and small electronics.
Plus you can call the municipal recycling office and order large waste pickup.
All of it is already financed through the compulsory waste handling subscription.
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nielsdejong well, the main weakness of the wood elves are their smallish unit sizes, poor armour and lack of shielded units which makes them vulnerable to massed archers and artillery, especially if well protected by shielded and armoured anti-large infantry with some ranged cavalry in support.
My ideal force to deal with wood elves would be an empire force made up of 2 great cannons, 3 mortars, 3 hellblasters 2 steam tanks, 2 hillebardiers, 2 shielded spearmen, 1 outrider grenades, 1 regular outrider, a lord on barded warhorse or Gelt on any mount and three handgunners.
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@Yukimaru0 sounds like they took a lesson from Sweden, Finland and Norway.
As in, from 1930ies up until the mid 1990ies, Sweden had a bomb shelter subsidy system for property owners, as well as a bomb shelter mandate for appartment/condo buildings and municipal buildings.
You won't find a public library, culture center, city/town/village hall, post ww2 church, shopping mall, health clinic, hospital, senior citizen care facility, public baths, sports centre or mass transit hub without some kind of old bomb shelter, either through a hardened ground floor/basement structure with heavy blast doors recessed into the walls with or without quick-removable cosmetic concealement to be out of the way in peace time.
(Public bomb shelters are marked on the outside of the buildings by a square sign of a, point up, blue like sided triangle inside an orange square.
And then on top of that, there are actual bedrock bunker facilities all under the major cities with access shafts hidden in plain sight in subway stations, utility structures, public service buildings etc.
Enough to protect the entire civilian population at the time from an invasions first strike until preset evacuation protocols could be safely initiated.
Many critical companies also have significant parts of their production facilities in NBC protected bedrock facilities with entrances rated to deflect and shrug off any value proportional ground zero nuclear detonations and EMP without serious interruptions to their work.
And then there's the military and government war cabinet command, navy and airbase bedrock bunkers on top of that, all of them also CBRN sealed and nuclear blast safe with multiple redundancies as well, and, for when turtling up won't work any longer, there were dispersal protocols for everything.
All three countries, both in civilian and military aspects, structured from the ground water table to low sattelite orbit, to be ever ready to face a soviet invasion in a nation wide defense in depth with the last section of every Swedish phone book, titled "If war Comes" declaring EVERY MESSAGE SUGGESTING RESISTANCE SHOULD STOP IS TO BE TREATED AS FALSE!
Meaning the govt can't negotiate surrender as long as there were uncaptured invader troops on Swedish soil as any order to stand down would be ignored by every patriotic civilian and every still combat able member of the armed forces, and with the way the Scandinavian conscript cadre systems were designed, the armed forces would consist of 10<%of the Total population! [10% was in Sweden in the late 1980ies with 8million total population], I expect Finland and Norway to have higher percentages, Norway due to a smaller population, Finland due to both smaller population and cultural mentality.
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Yup, 12cm mortars: min range 400m, optimal range, 3-8km depending on munition.
105mm gun howitzers: min range 150m
Optimal range, 300m-15km
155mm gun howitzers: min range 150m
Optimal range, 1km-35km
Max range, 40-50km depending on munition
Dismounted infantry: min range, fist/knife meets kidney
Optimal range, 50-200m
Max effective range, 350-600m depending on platoon level support weapons.
Theoretic max range: ~1500m.
IFVs: min range: tracks make squashy sounds.
Practical range: 50m-1500m (out to 3km if fitted with ATGM launcher)
Tanks: min range, same as IFVs, practical range 20-4000m
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@Dgnmuse and that's honestly how every voter everywhere should approach every election. With the caveat that, one should never listen to what they say their policies would bring about. That's where the lies, (or ideological delusions), if any, will be.
Instead, one should listen to what policy they want to implement, and then look up, what bills they have sponsored, authored and how they have voted in assembly. If that matches their promises and, more importantly, if the effect of those passed or defeated bills have matched the proclaimed intent of the candidate/party.
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The first thing the German Nazis did after their failed beer hall putch in the early 1930ies was to switch their gaslighting to claim they were a-political and a third way separate from the conservatives and socialists at the time...
It was after that campaign of rhetorical lies started that they started to gain popular support from the intellectually lazy, the overexploited workers and the corporate parasite class.
The exact same groups that fall for the exact same gaslighting and scapegoating lies with new dog whistles and newspeak of our generation of species traitors like the Trumpist magangelicals and nazi-republicans in the US, Melloni in Italy, Fico in Slovakia, Orban in Hungary, Åkesson in Sweden, AfD in Germany, Front Nationale in France, Duda in Poland, the Tories and the renamed Brexiteers in the UK Netanyahu and his Zionist allies in Israel, Hamas in Palestine, Erdogan in Turkey, ISIS in Syria and Iraq, Modi in India etc. ad nauseam. And they are all backed, directly and/or indirectly by the nazi tyrant in the Kremlin.
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@RedHeart64 please excuse my foreigner ignorance, but what do you refer to as 'type' of plate?
In the system I'm used to, there's only five categories of licence plates, four civilian ones, green with black symbols for dealers temporary, white with black symbols for regular road vehicles, yellow with black symbols for taxis, light blue with white symbols for diplomats, and, finally the military plates which are black with yellow numbers only.
All plates come in single or dual line formats, and as long as the placement is unobstructed, the info is correct and legible and the plate illumination works, it doesn't matter if you use the standard single or half width double line format.
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And in the Nordic countries, police makes random roadside safety inspections of any vehicle that happens to pass by on top of the sheduled mandatory vehicle inspections one to two times per year for professional traffic vehicles.
The most basic form of road side safety inspection includes breathalyzer, driving/rest time journal, drivers licence and, if applicable, special qualification licences.
Other inspections can include vehicle weight check, tyre condition and presence of mandatory safety equipment such as warning triangle, high-vis vest, and for professional vehicles, fire extinguisher, glass breaker/belt cutter and first aid kit.
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There needs to be a class action lawsuit to demand corporate crime renders the company in it's entirety into the tool of those crimes and, as such subject to criminal asset forfeiture.
Ie: use your buisness to comitt crimes=everything that the buisness encompasses, IP, land, buildings, physical property, bank accounts, etc. gets taken by the DoJ, split up and sold at executive auction, the employees get a 12m severance package, any customers with outstanding balance is refunded and the rest is transfered to the treasury, but the company's debts remain with the owners to pay as private individuals as best they are able...😈
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No retreat, no surrender, criminalize corporate lobbyism and make the political system serve the actual citizens for once, and not the corporate kleptocrats that want society to return to a feudalistic hell with them as the new tax excempted aristocrats.
The right of physical personal property needs to be as absolute as the right of bodily autonomy.
Infrastructure and means of production, health care, education and governance needs to be owned and controled by those who builds, maintains and operates it, that is the only way to equality and freedom. And deliberate mismanagement, negligience, abuse of power, embesslement and corruption must be punished as a form of treason, with permanent exclusion and disqualification from running for or appointment for any and all positions of trust in addition to any criminal or civil charges.
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@manfredconnor3194 on the island I grew up there has been a large lime extraction and cement industry for hundreds of years and several sizeable quarries dotted all over the island. One of these quarries lay on a peninsula connected to the main island by a short single lane causeway bridge inside what was a restricted defense zone. On that peninsula, an old man who owned most of the peninsula by inheritance had a small shed near the quarry, and each day, he had gone on several walks all around the peninsula.
As the old man passed away of natural causes before I was born, the old man's son contacted the costal artillery regiment my father served at as an officer and my father and another officer was sent to investigate the son's concerns...
As the three arived and the son opened the door of the old shed to show them what he'd found, they told the son to close the door again and leave it unlocked as they all drove away to the bridge and dropped the gate normally only closed during military exercises on the peninsula.
Then they radioed the regimental watch officer to send out the EOD platoon...
During each of the late old man's daily walks for several decades when the quarry on the island had been active, the late old man had found stumps of excess high explosives thrown clear of the quarrys charge holes...
Those he had collected in old shoe boxes on the shelves of his shed... so they woukdn't be found by kids or other people that could have tried to experiment and hurt themselves or used them for criminal activity... only he had never himself notified authorities or quarry personel either...
So when the son came to sort out his late fathers estate, he had found the shed, and it's shelves, stacked from floor to almost neck height with grease soaked cardboard shoeboxes and hardened puddles of waxy clay encrusted with yellowish crystals as the summer sun and moist saturated sea air had baked the shed and liquified it's contents every summer, and let it all set again with the cold autumn and winter weather while the moist leached the nitroglycerin out of the stabilizing clay to then crystalize on the outside...
According to the EOD who could thankfully rig incendiaries to burn it all without detonation from a safe distance, there had been mixed types of highly unstable industrial grade high explosives (the variety due to the age of the quarry) equivalent to over 300kg of TNT in that shed...😅
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@howardwhite1507 now I know where the idea for the drive train for the CB90 came from. Only the CB90, designed in the late 1980ies at Dockstavarvet Sweden, is enclosed, built of aluminium, has radar, two smaller assault ramps angled at 45° to the sides of the bow and powerered by two 1500hp marine diesels, pushing it along at ~45knots with twin fixed .50 M2HB to the front, a ring mount fitting one of either, an FN MAG '58, a third .50 cal M2HB, a 40mm GMG, a Rb17 (laser guided Hellfire atgm modified to anti ship surface to surface missile)
And up to six anti ship mines, sonar buoys or depth charges along two deployment rails going bow -> stern along both sides.
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I've only had Italian pizza in Livigno, and it was mediocre from my point of view.
The best italian style Swedish pizza I've had was in a pizzeria in Karlstad named Vedugnen (wood fired oven)
They use exclusively fresh ingredients and sauces mixed in their own kitchen (no canned ham or vegetables).
They also use a wood fired oven, as their name suggests, in open view to the restaurant to bake their pizzas which provide the pizzas with a nice aroma of wood smoke on top of the high quality toppings.
Also, I prefer thin crust pizzas, regardless if I have Italian style topping, a middle eastern kebab pizza or one of the numerous Swedish local bastardisations including things like french fires, moose meat shavings, sauce Bearnaise, pineapple, artichoke, local mushroom varieties, lingonberries etc... (not all at once)
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It makes sense, as the speech is the last real chance the commander has to bolster or shore up their forces morale before a battle.
As, when battle is joined, noise, dust, smells and smoke will make mockery of everything but leading by example.
That said, the victor has the perk of embelishing or rewriting the facts with few others able to contradict or question their presentation.
In modern times, on a far more vast, assymetric and dispersed battlefield the speech prior to battle is replaced by the pre-mission briefing, usually followed by one kind of unit specific greeting or ritualistic wishes of good fortune on squad, platoon or at most company level once the commander is satisfied that all subordinates has understood the orders and the purpose of the specific task.
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Better yet, help the developing world to avoid repeating the crimes and mistakes our own countries made and subjected them to in the process of getting where we are.
But none of the 1% parasites that's stolen over 75% of the global wealth and counting would allow that, which is why they are sponsoring wannabe tyrants like Trump, Putin, Erdogan and terrorist movements like the evangelical churches and MAGA in the US, Lega in Italy, PiS in Poland, AfD in Germany, Front National in France, Fidez in Hungary, ISIS in Iraq, Syria and Africa, Hindu nationalists in India, Bolzonaro in Brazil, SD in Sweden, etc. ad nauseam...
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The problem is that we in the west has passively allowed Russian information warfare assets to access, sponsor, train and coordinate authoritarian and fascist traitor movements in our own societies and through those movements corrupt and cripple our governments from within.
Movements such as Front National in France, Lega in Italy, the Nordic Resistance Movement, Stram Kurs, Nyans and Sverigedemokraterna in Scandinavia, Britain first in the UK, AfD in Germany, Fidez in Hungary, and the maga and tea party movements takeover of the Republican party in the US.
All of them fascists and nazis, all of them sponsored and trained in everything information warfare and social media manipulation to, in some cases, actual small unit combat and sabotage tactics and household chemical explosives production by Russian Paramilitary forces directly subordinated to Putin's political party...
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There needs to be a class action lawsuit to demand corporate crime renders the company in it's entirety into the tool of those crimes and, as such subject to criminal asset forfeiture.
Ie: use your buisness to comitt crimes=everything that the buisness encompasses, IP, land, buildings, physical property, bank accounts, etc. gets taken by the DoJ, split up and sold at executive auction, the employees get a 12m severance package, any customers with outstanding balance is refunded and the rest is transfered to the treasury, but the company's debts remain with the owners to pay as private individuals as best they are able...😈
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@imouse3246 tbh, while it was not our finest hour, our politicians did not have much of a choise between providing limited aid to both sides or have the country occupied over the same natural resources.
While our prime minister at the time proclaimed Swedens readyness to be good, he, and all other people who knew the actual state of affairs, prayed to high heaven that none of the warring great powers would have urges to call that blue faced lie, as those pocket battleships were basically ALL we really had when Germany occupied Denmark and Norway.
The rest of the Swedish armed forces was about as prepared as the Polish were two years earlier...
Eg, decent number of troops equipped with obsolete weapons, no armoured vehicles worth mentioning, obsolete biplane fighters, industry incapable of producing the engines and other critical components for tanks or planes of sufficient quality or quantity. And practically no motorisation of the ground forces worth mentioning.
The most mobile forces Sweden had in '42 was bike infantry who were towed in columns by horses, flat bed trucks or wheeled farm tractors...
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@grandgibbon2071 and as for Finland, almost a third of their total population is trained army reserves that would be ready to go with only a couple of weeks of refresher training, with stockpiled weapons and ammo for up to a year of delaying actions and counter attacks while there is also maintained bomb shelters on standby for the rest under every public building, every appartment complex, subway station, movie theatre, shopping mall, almost half of their critical industry are ready to transfer into or already set up in bedrock bunker complexes.
And many of the civilians not placed in the combat reserves are trained for duties in the civil defense.
And also, every Finnish bridge, harbour, highway and runway are built with demolition compartments ready to be loaded and detonated by local defense militia if ordered, militia that is regularly tested for mobilization readyness of less than 6h from beeing alerted at their civilian job to beeing deployed on station.
The system is similiar in the baltic states, and used to be in Sweden too, but there it got dismantled in the 90ies and 00s and is under reconstruction and rearmament since 2010 with the pace of it forced drastically each year since 2014.
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In the Swedish army, the Carl Gustaf m/48 replaced man portable mortars right off the bat and in 1958, the CG got it's iconic tag team squad level asset in the FN MAG built under licence as the Ksp m/58.
Each infantry squad getting one CG and one FN MAG and, once LAWs became a thing, each rifleman was supposed to carry two m72LAWs, then in the 90ies to present day, the riflemen are supposed to be able to bring a single AT4 or NLAW each, all stored in or on their AFV when not on foot.
Lowest level indirect support is 12cm mortars, either towed in the home guard militia, or as the twin tube Mjölner mortar CV90 (think better, non amphib Bradley style IFV chassi) with a twin tube assisted loading mortar in a frag protected semi-turret capable of 6 shell MRSI
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Lots of anecdotal nationalist bs in here...
The main reason why US cars are cheap in the US and expensive in Europe and the other way around for European cars is pretty simple: Logistics. And that has very little to do with car quality.
Secondly, up until a couple of decades ago, cars transported as cargo were often transported secured on deck of the cargo ships as they don't stack well in the hold for some reason... /s
That means they were subjected to the tender mercies of ocean water spray, varying temperatures, direct and reflected sunlight etc...
Not all car manufacturers applied rust protective coatings underneath cars at the factory by default either, and if the cars wasn't washed before that coating was applied on arrival, the saline residue the cars picked up in transit got trapped between the bare or just undercoated metal and the rust protection coat with predictable results for car longevity...
Finally, US vehicles, as far as I'm aware, has no federal level legal requirements for anual vehicle condition and safety inspections or standardised laws on custom vehicle definitions/road legal requirements while most European countries do have both.
That said, the OC did make a good joke.
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The 17th will return to the Emperors side. As HIS visions has fortold, once the arch corruptors Erebus and Kor Pharon has been excised from all planes of existance, the golden Primarch will rise from his minds captivity and throw off the yoke and blinders of corruption.
The golden Primarch will emerge from the temple the arch corruptors built around him as his prison and reforge the legion of his sons, the XVII, and united with his sons, he shall liberate his father from HIS material prison so that HE, the God Emperor, may Ascend to the immaterium, and rescue his fallen sons, so that those once fallen, may continue the task they abandoned at the cusp of ultimate victory, and finish it. To conquer and subjugate the immaterium to HIS will, as their stalwartly loyal brothers, under the leadership of Robute Guilliman, forgiven be his tresspass at Monarchia, will conquer the material plane for the eternal glory of mankind and the Imperium.
Imperator regis omni.
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@countbenjamin1442 how about having all previous cases automatically brought up on review for appeal by a constitutional tribunal, an automatic and immediate suspension from office, an automatic investigation into bank and communication records for any trace of abuse of powers, corruption, bias or collusion,
And, if any unbecoming acts or bias is found, then immediate dishonourable dismissal/impeachment and permanent, nationwide blacklisting from public sector employment, and any elected or appointed offices at every level is implemented and criminal charges leveled as an imperative outside DA/AttGen. discretion. Ie. the DoJ should not have any option to decline or postpone criminal proceedings against corrupt public officials under any circumstances on any level, they should be forced to deal with corruption as a higher priority than any other crimes.
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Would be better to charge them with corrupting minors, extortion, embezzlement, tax evation, organizing subversive action, obstruction of justice, and where applicable: child trafficking, illegal imprisonment, torture and, last, but not least, comitting and inciting domestic and international terrorism.
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Then let a modern artilleryman explain: F=m×V (Force equals mass multiplied by velocity)
The power of a bow is measured in draw weight, which is the equivalent of the force the bowman would use to lift a dead weight to the same height as the distance between the bow staff and the bowstring at full draw ie: a 150lb draw weight bow equals lifting a ~65kg from the ground to a height of roughly 2ft/60cm.
A part of that tension is then transfered into the arrow as it is loosed for as long as it is riding the bowstring, commonly around 50m/s with an arrow weight around 0.15<0.2kg giving the equation of F=0.2kg×50=10Joule of kinetic energy
The cannon of the late middle ages/early modern era on the other hand, is defined by it's projectile weight in pounds (1pound≈0.45g)
A common early field gun caliber beeing 12pd≈5.4kg
Blackpowder, beeing far weaker than modern smokeless powder, could omly accelerate that ball to a V⁰(velocity at the muzzle) of around 300m/s<500m/s.
That still gives an equation of
F=5.4kg×300m=1620Joule of kinetic energy, and due to it's high mass relative to it's surface, the cannon ball isn't going to be slowed down much by anything less solid than itself, punching holes straight through things instead of stopping. Things like shields, timber, armor, horses, legs, arms and ribcages. Flying through the air and then bouncing and rolling along the ground tearing through every obstacle like wet paper until it hits a vertical earth or stone obstacle stronger than itself and, if the cannon ball is stone, shattering into countless razor sharp stone shards, or, if a metal ball, buring itself, flattening out or bouncing off in a new direction to keep snapping off limbs until all it's energy is spent as friction...
Modern artillery on the other hand is much more deliberate, accurate and vicious as it, just like the early mortars, arcs in from above with a fragmenting shell, with the purpose of negating the use of walls as cover. Nowdays often with a proximity fuse that detonates the shell above the unfortunate targets, showering them with a cone thousands of glowing hot shell fragments and tungsten ball shrapnel.
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@aliceberethart except in the late 1990ies and early 2000s when our politicians kidney punched the entire costal artillery branch out of existance, gutted strategic air defence, engineers, logistics, signals and artillery down to a single regiment each, gutted the navy down to two bases, got rid of all of the sea knight heavy transport helis, all but one of the field hospitals and destroyed or sold off all of the civil defense organisation and stockpiles, including almost 9 MILLION civilian pattern gas masks and 24h protection suits with a one year supply of CBRN filters, and it's nation wide dispersed one year supply of fuel, seeds, metals, medicine etc.
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There needs to be a class action lawsuit to demand corporate crime renders the company in it's entirety into the tool of those crimes and, as such subject to criminal asset forfeiture.
Ie: use your buisness to comitt crimes=everything that the buisness encompasses, IP, land, buildings, physical property, bank accounts, etc. gets taken by the DoJ, split up and sold at executive auction, the employees get a 12m severance package, any customers with outstanding balance is refunded and the rest is transfered to the treasury, but the company's debts remain with the owners to pay as private individuals as best they are able...😈
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@thomasmaughan4798 not "stuff", infrastructure, as in: education, roads, bus/train lines, health care, law enforcement, rescue services, power lines, communication lines, water and sewage treatment as well as trash collection and recycling/disposal facilities.
Most of which is either tax and/or fee funded.
And imo, anyone living in a community, working and paying taxes there should have an equal say in how those taxes and fees are managed and used, formal citizen or not as the latter lives as a citizen in all but name.
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@bigsidable they made fun of you because you went on a wall of text tirade while completely missing the point lf the axiom.
The "train as you intend to fight" axiom is more about methods and movement, not about the level of physical force applied to any single motion.
Relating to your own martial arts experience means you do all the motions of a technique and follow through every time, not take short cuts and skip repetitions or only doing half a technique that's already known for personal convenience.
The speed and force in the motions is what's adapted to the training/combat situation.
That said, Swedish airforce pilots during the cold war DID train as they were meant to fight, and thus had a peace time attrition rate of roughly one permanent casualty/week every week, all year round to everything from bird strikes, engine malfunctions, tree/powerline/sailing boat strikes, high G blackouts, ejection failiures etc. between 1950 and 1995.
Min height regulations was 30m over land, 50m over urban areas, 10m over water in a straight line if there was at least 3km of clear visual.
Pilots often returned to base with pine twigs in the weapon hardpoints and landing gear.
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@michaeltempsch5282 for non Swedish viewers: A similiar purpose red metal safety clip is still used by Swedish home guard militia soldiers on their HK G3 derived ak4B/C rifles during non-training guard duties, like guarding the royal palaces.
And unlike the Danish or Brittish palace guards, the Swedish ones are not exclusively ceremonial. Their primary duty is as a military anti-coup defense and quick reaction force for the defense and evacuation of the monarch, court staff of the palace, the ministers of government and members of parliament.
Regardless if it's the off season green fractal pattern combat uniformed guards at night, grey dress uniformed guards in off season daytime with modern carbines/rifles or tourist season 19th century blue and silver cavalry uniformed guards with sabre and 6.5×55mm m/1896 mauser carbines, they are all carrying live rounds in the firearms, the swords or bayonets are service sharpened and they are trained and authorised to if, when and how to use them to defend the lives of themselves and/or others if need be.
When I did two palace guard tours as a conscript, we were, however, jokingly advised to not use the bayonet if it could be avoided due to how it would look in the press...
And that any weapon use had to be defensible in court on the same level as if we were civilian private security.
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@greenmountainhistory7335 so by your logic, the Allies shouldn't have tried the Nazi leadership at Nürenberg after WW2 for organising the holocaust as they weren't the ones who dumped the gas canisters into the chambers? They just wrote the script of the scapegoating misinformation reels shown in German movie theatres, wrote the laws that criminalised "sexual deviancy"(Any LGBTQI+ person), "deviant art"(beeing an owner or author of forbidden non-nazi books, paintings, sculpture or music or listening to non-nazi radio broadcasts), being of or romantically interacting with "sub-human" races(jews, roma, slavs etc.), beeing a "socialist", or a "peoples traitor"(politically active and not nazi) and legislated that the punishments were either to be worked to death in a labour camp, starved to death in a concentration camp, or just gassed...
After all, as you say, Joseph Göbbles didn't personally comitt, or even order any murders. Just like Alex, he just created a deliberately false narrative that painted targets on other people...
How noble and gracious of you...🙈🙉🙊
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@linkelinse4534 as an amateur blacksmith, there is however no really good alternative to a vegetable tanned leather apron and a pair of insulated leather gloves as canvas, weather cotton or linnen or something else requires the same soaking in very toxic flame retardants as synthetic fibres to be viable in a forge.
I do however conceed that it's a nessesary evil at best, and even as a meat eater, I agree with you on a moral level.
Cows, pigs and even sheep are very curious and far more clever in their own ways than they get credit for.
One of the funniest traffic incidents I've been in as a taxi driver for a regional public transport service involved a calf in the middle of my lane as I came driving at a sensible speed on a country road after dropping off a customer.
As I gently slowed down and stopped about three car lengths before the calf, it looked at me and I caught it's eyes and tilted my head while making a slightly admonishing face trying to express something like: "Young man, you know you aren't supposed to play in traffic"
And as I did, the calf seemed to sigh, turned around and trotted off the road, crouching and wiggling back under the fence to the meadow where his mom and friends were grazing and playing as I started back on my way to pick up the next set of customers! 😊
I've also had to deal with an escaped horse grazing in a ditch by a paddock near an intercity motorway (100kph speed limit and heavy traffic)
And a runaway Sow with piglets on a single width snow and ice covered gravel road.
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@TrangleC The point is: aside from the home guard militia that's taking over the army and costal artillery branches old m/41(Finnish designed) 12cm towed mortars, the Swedish defence forces are fully mechanized.
Thus, along with the reality that any foreign invader would have near peer level capabilities for artillery locating radars and counter battery measures, the artillery pieces we can afford to field and man, needs to have as short scoot delay as possible and be armored against fragmentation and small arms fire.
Ergo, the self deploying towed Bofors FH77A was replaced with the Bofors/Volvo FH77 Archer, and the towed m41 mortars were replaced with the assisted loading dual tube semi-turreted Grkpbv90120 Mjölner in the mechanised infantry battalions, supporting the Strf9040C/Patria360 mounted infantry and Strv122B tanks with on-hand indirect fire, each individual Grkpbv having the same volume of fire as a fully manned towed 4-piece mortar platoon.
As for the 105mm howitzer, no. Finnish trials has showed that the angle of attack from a mortar barrage is almost twice as effective on target as a howitzer barrage of equivalent shell weight and fuse. On top of that, a 105mm howitzer shell is too small to feasibly develop effective special purpose munitions of the same range that the Swedish 12cm mortars already have. In particular, the IR homing, programmable top attack AT mortar shell marketed as STRIX.
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@digitalwarz now THAT could explain why Ukrainian pilots has started training on the Gripen C/D variant and SAAB has stated that they have a number of them ready to donate as soon as the Swedish govt. allows it😊
And, iirc, if the CV9040Cs, Strv 122s and Archers didn't have their radios and commanders tactical interface downgraded before delivery for Swedish national security reasons, they should be able to share real-time sensor and targeting data with eachother and with the Gripens on their electronic map displays...
The Gripen is an excellent contested airspace all condition multi-role combat and recon aircraft that compensates it's short range and relatively light weapons load with a first rate ECM/ECCM, networked sensors, intuitive cockpit layout and unmatched turnaround times between sorties <10minutes with 6 conscripts and a technical officer on any asphalt road that'straight and level for more than 300m, extreme ease of module based repair and maintenance, ability to use another compatible assets sensors (such as a ground based radar, relayed gps+laser range finder targeting data from a CV9040 or Strv122, another Gripen or interface compatible AWACS aircraft far outside the engagement zone) to lock on and fire with it's own sensors out of range or passive to minimise it's own visibility to enemy sensors.
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@cav1stlt922 yeah, comming from a rank and file specialist, the best officers I've had have all been humble professionals who leads as much by example as they command, and who knows the skills, limitations and special quirks of their subordinates enough to trust that they will do all they can to meet the objectives on time and device alternative courses of action as the situation on the ground requires while informing the command chain of new opportunities where possible and adhering to the purpose and intent of the strategic deployment rather than blindly following incomplete plans from pencil pushers when reality smashes those plans.
Eg, my Captain and platoon CO during conscript training who even outright told us during a morning assembly, that as long as we gave him all we got in the field exercises and whereever else it actually counted, he'd have our backs on base vs. other officers when it came to stuff like boot polish or otherwise wearing the uniform in a less than immaculate manner when heading for the cafeteria or laundry/supply depot etc.
At the final bout of validation exercises, we managed 59second for a rapid extraction with the whole platoon of 3 towed 12cm mortars and two 30t ammo trucks, one with a bogey trailer from fully deployed across a 75×75m square to 500m away. All personell and essential equipment accounted for.
And we delivered our fire missions on time, on target every time throughout the two week long validation field exercise.
All Swedish officers had to go through conscript training as platoon or company level NCOs with impeccable grades to qualify for cadet training, they then had 2 years of cadet school before serving as seargeants in a conscript training regiment for two more years before they graduate as JrLt. Then the 2+2 year cycle repeats for each rank level until they reach LtCol.
Ranks of Col. and up was appointed by branch HQ staff comitte of superior COs.
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@WarHawk- sounds accurate, meanwhile, in 03/04 in a Swedish 12cm mortar platoon, we were issued much of the same, HEFRAG-FS (combination fuse with impact, post impact and airburst setting), Smoke (impact fused) and illumination. In case of war, we would also get a PSVINGGR 94 SLUFA
(HEAT-FS, End Phase IR-Guided/Homing, adopted in 1994, also known by the manufacturer designation as STRIX) with optional rocket booster module for extended range.
All shells came with 7 charge rings mounted around the fin shaft and two more extra in the protective lid of the ammo packaging.
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Nope, they get damaged in the detonations and self-ignite, or get torn off and tossed away, hits something that cracks the cells and self ignites, or, it miracularily escapes damage in the warhead detonation but they end up on the ground where rodents get to eat the soy, corn or lactose based eco-friendlier plastic insulation on the cables and either the rodent, or the next rain shorts out the cells and they self-ignite or sunlight degrades the cell containment making it brittle while the solar heat causes the reagents to produce gas that cracks the containment and allows air moisture to condense inside the cell and start a self-igniting reaction with the lithium...
Either way, there's no surviving Li-Po, Li-Fe or other Li-ion batteries left after the war, just millions of tiny firestarters here and now.
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@jgw9990 I'd argue that while the CV90 has not been tested in near peer combat, it is definitely battle and environment tested as well as any competitor, having served in Swedish, Danish, Dutch and Norwegian contingents to UN and EUFOR deployments for over a decade, in places like Liberia and Afghanistan and upgraded accordingly (mainly a crew&dismount compartment climate control system, additional armor all around, improved gun stabilization, improved commanders tac interface, an independent commanders periscope with thermal and image intensifier sights, ECM systems and better IR cammo.
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