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Comments by "Андрей Борцов" (@Mentol_) on "WW2 - From Stalingrad To Kursk" video.
@MrNicoJac Your point of view says that the occupied peoples do not have patriotic feelings and will be ready to massively cooperate with the Nazis if they renounce racism. This is absurd. The military and economic defeat of Germany has nothing to do with how many collaborators will support Hitler. Because collaborators have low morale and don't have a strong industry.
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@MrNicoJac The Holodomor is a famine that occurred in several Soviet regions. How does this prove that most Ukrainians were not Soviet patriots? Modern Ukrainian propaganda says that Stalin deliberately created a famine in order to weaken the desire for freedom of Ukrainian peasants. They do not give any evidence and will not be able to because it is absurd. For a normal person, such a tragedy diminishes the support of the government, but does not make him a Nazi collaborator (this requires sympathy for Hitler). If some Ukrainians supported Germany, it means that they initially had pro-German sympathies and hunger could not affect this. Some Ukrainians previously lived in Austria-Hungary, so their loyalty to the Soviet government was low. According to statistics, about 6 million ethnic Ukrainians served in the Red Army. Plus 220 thousand were Soviet partisans. About 250 thousand fought on the side of Germany (perhaps this number is overestimated). That is, most Ukrainians fought on the Soviet side, and this requires high morale. You insult all these people when you project modern propaganda on them and say that they were not Soviet patriots.
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The original German plan did not include a simultaneous war against the three industrial powers. The plan was to destroy the USSR while Britain did not have a large ground army to create a second front in Europe and the US was neutral. After receiving Soviet resources, Germany becomes invulnerable to the British blockade and creates significant forces in the west that make landings on the continent impossible. After that, different options are possible.
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@MrNicoJac The scientific principle of historicism is to view the situation from the point of view of the realities that were at that time, and not from the point of view of the present. If today, for example, Ukraine and Russia are different states that are hostile to each other, this does not mean that it was the same during the Soviet period. After the collapse of the USSR, the mentality of people changed and they became more nationalistic. This means that now they project their modern mentality onto history and assess the USSR as the state that destroyed their independence, but in the Soviet period they had a different opinion (majority). If you disagree and think that the nations in the USSR were not patriots of their country, then show your statistics and source of information.
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In the early 1930s, a concept was adopted in the USSR that assumed the achievement of superiority in amount of vehicles against a potential enemy (a coalition of capitalist states). Plus old tanks were saved instead of recycling.
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