Comments by "Андрей Борцов" (@Mentol_) on "Miracle on the Vistula - Polish Soviet War I BETWEEN 2 WARS I 1920 Part 1 of 4" video.

  1. Was not this the aggression of Poland? This state violated the ethnic border of its people-the line of Curzon and invaded Ukraine, Byelorussia and Lithuania. The Soviet government recognized the independence of Poland in December 1917 and was concerned about the solution of its internal problems. Prior to Polish aggression, the Soviet government did not have the goal of "Sovietizing Poland" only after it. Lenin understood that peasants needed peace and they were tired of the war.
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  2. "The Curzon line was created after the Polish-Soviet war had started" - formally - yes, in fact - it was already created thanks to the action of objective factors. Poland violated this border, ignored the wishes of the West and committed aggression. "Another thing is that there was no such things as "the ethnic border" in eastern europe seeing how Poles made up a large group in urban areas in Lithuania, Ukraine" - The process of colonization occurs mainly through the population of cities. Thus, the inhabitants of the city - mostly colonists, rural residents - form the core of the ethnic border of the nation. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Nationalities_in_Second_Polish_Republic_ca._1931.png?uselang=ru "A worldwide revolution was the ultimate goal of Lenin/Trotsky goverment" - after the seizure of power in October 1917, Lenin said in his article that "now we are defensists" ie, defenders of the socialist revolution. The support of revolutionary movements in other countries does not mean "the conquest of Europe for Russia" because it contradicts the socialist principles of politics. "they used it as a casus belli to subjugate former imperial provinces in the Caucasus, Central Asia" - restoration of the territorial integrity of your state. The creation of national republics and the conclusion of an equal treaty with them. Why do you think that all these people were against cooperation? "and Poland alongside the Baltic states and Finland were amongst Soviet goals of conquest" - can you confirm this by documentary? I mean, why does the creation of Soviet socialist respubles mean to you - conquest? Conquest is imperialist policy within the framework of the capitalist model. Poland conquered part of Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania and restricted these people in rights - this is a policy of conquest and colonization. The USSR pursued a policy of creating equal treaties and did not restrict any nationality in its rights - it is a policy of cooperation. "but it is certain that the Soviets attacked first" - In 1919, after the departure of the German army, the Red Army came to the territory of Belarus and Lithuania. On January 10, 1919 Minsk was take and the Byelorussian SSR was proclaimed. On January 27, Lithuania was included, and the republic became the Lithuanian-Belarusian SSR. On February 3, the republic joined the federation with the RSFSR. On the other hand, Polish troops were came, with the aim of restoring Polish borders within the Rzecz Pospolita (imperialist policy). On February 9-14, 1919, the Polish units occupied the Kobrin-Pruzhany line. The Polish-Soviet front was formed. On February 28, the units of General Ivashkevich were attacked Soviet troops on the Shchara River and on March 1 they occupied Slonim.
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  3. You know that the work of a cheka is to destroy the enemies of the people and criminals? These people are repressed as criminals, and not as Russians... In addition, Felix's work was still included in the management of the railways of Russia and the correction of homeless children.
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  4. Well, you can read, for example, about the policy of Ukrainianization in the USSR. From the point of view of "imperial policy" this is unacceptable. Russian nationalists always criticize this. A similar practice was carried out in other national republics in the framework of the policy of Korenization. This policy was discontinued during the 1930s due to the fact that many republics had serious problems with knowledge of the Russian language, which created a problem within the framework of a single state. A moderate Russification was introduced. As for the late Soviet Union, even the Baltic republics (which today tell you that they were seriously oppressed) - their culture and language was protected by a soviet constitution. The pressing significance of the Russian language is explained by the practical necessity and influence of a more powerful culture.
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  5. And now the same thing but concretly.
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  6. What do you disagree with?
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  7.    1. Can you answer a simple question: what was the Polish army doing on the territory of Belarus and Ukraine? This happened before the Red Army launched an offensive against Poland. 2. After the Cold War, Poland became part of Western civilization. This means that this state approved all anti-Soviet narratives and stereotypes that existed in the West. This channel is a product of Western culture, so you can see that most of the people in the comments support Poland, not Russia. When I came here, my goal was not to propagate the Soviet point of view, but to restore the disturbed balance when 90-100% of people support only one side in a conflict. In my opinion, this is more objective than when some people create an image of an evil empire for any of the states and after that they say that they are not victims of propaganda.
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  8.    In science, there is the principle of historicism, according to which events should not be disconnected from the historical context that was relevant at that time. If we are talking about Soviet policy, then we rely on the views of the Soviet government that created this policy. It is pro-Soviet. Everything is logical.
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