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You did not answer my question. According to the plan of Barbarossa, the European territory of the USSR was to be captured by October 1941. But this did not happen. The question is why. You answer - American help, but where is it in 1941? You are also talking about the large size of the territory, but the German military command knew about it when it created its plans. You also say that there were no more blitzkrieg attacks in 1942 and the Luftwaffe could not support operations. But what about Operation Blau? It was a success for the Wehrmacht. For what purpose are you trying to interpret the defeat of Germany in the east as the sum of random factors exept than the Red Army? What is your goal here.
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Germany also had the advantages: - A fully molilized and concentrated army at the beginning of the operation. - Excellence in technology. - Excellence in logistics at the initial stage (road capacity in Europe is higher than in the USSR). - Numerical superiority which persisted until early 1942. - Germany also had more of some resources, such as steel, aluminum, cast iron, electricity. - The army has experience of modern war. - German industial potential was highter than soviet.
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1. Useless Italy = Nazi apologetics. 2. Germany did not have a second front in Europe until mid-1944.
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1. Africa is a peripheral theater with a small amount of military power. Italy is also not a second front because it diverted less than 40 German divisions (the task of a real second front) and did not threaten Germany because of the presence of the Alpine mountains in the south. 2. You can not know exactly what if Germany would be one-on-one with the USSR. When you talk about her guaranteed victory, this is Nazi apologetics (again). All opponents of the USSR have an ideological basis in sympathy with Hitler.
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1. Stalin asked the Allies to divert at least 40 german divisions from the eastern front. Neither Africa, nor Italy have achieved this. 2. At one of the meetings of the Allies, it was officially recognized that the second front would be considered landing in France. 3. Compare the number of divisions with which the allies fought. For example, there were 15 Axis divisions in Africa. In Italy there were 26. On the eastern front there were from 190 to 257 Axis divisions. So your thesis that "you had to fight only with the Germans" does not make sense. Only the opening of the western front distracted about 50 German divisions. 4. The USSR also keep in June 1941 against Turkey and Iran 350 thousand people and against Japan 720 thousand. You always speak of German garrisons, but never of the Soviet ones. You are looking for Germany's moral justification for defeat.
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1. When I say that Germany fought in Europe on a single front until June 1944, I do not mean that the USSR defeated Germany alone — this is your stereotype. I just want to show you the difference between the eastern front and the others. When I do this - I have no desire to deny the efforts of the Western allies, I just want to show you the historical fact without any demonization. 2. You call the number of the German army in Italy as 400 thousand. Probably this number includes additional paramilitary personnel. If we use the same methodology for the eastern front, then in early November 1943 more than 4 million Germans and about 500 thousand of their allies fought here. Do you see the difference? Do you see that the Italian front is only 10% of the German forces in the east? After the opening of this front, only one German division and corps headquarters were redeployed from the east. At the same time, in the west (France + Benelux) the Wehrmacht had 1.4 million people. But these people did not fight until June 1944. 3. Compare the percentage of active Germans in Italy and the Russian front during the First World War. Then Russia held back from 30 to 50% (at different times) of the German-Austrian forces. Do you see that this is a front more important than Italian in 1943? Do you see that the Russian army threatens the German and Austrian industries, unlike Italy in 1943? Of course, Stalin wanted the military efforts to be distributed by the anti-Hitler coalition more evenly than they were in reality. This would reduce the duration of the war and its victims.
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What soviet order has such a goal?
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Poland killed 17 thousand Wehrmacht soldiers in 36 days (472 people a day). France and allies killed 50,000 Axis soldiers in 43 days (1,163 people a day). The USSR killed 383 thousand Axis soldiers (1984 people per day) in 193 days (1941). The allies after the opening of the second front killed 340 thousand German soldiers in 216 days (1944), which gives 1,574 people a day. Moreover, the Allies had numerical, technical and material superiority over the enemy, in contrast to the Red Army in 1941. Here is a brief list of the achievements of the two russian revolutions of 1917. - The peasants were given more land. - The working day is reduced from 10.5 hours to 8 hours. - Improvement of the health care system. - The policy of eliminating illiteracy of the population. - Equality of men and women is presented. - Elimination of class privileges. - Separation of church from state.
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1. The Wehrmacht had a greater percentage of mechanization than the Red Army. 2. Hitler invaded on June 22. It was not the winter month, was it? By October, the entire European part of the USSR was to be occupied according to plan, but this did not happen. Why? Because the plan Barbarossa was already failed by this time, that is, before the onset of winter. 3. In addition, the Wehrmacht is affected not only by its own mistakes, but also by the Red Army - the main factor in this war. For some reason, many want to put winter instead of him.
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Information that Germany has lost most of its supplies after the Polish campaign is a myth.
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