Comments by "Андрей Борцов" (@Mentol_) on "How did the Bolsheviks Take Russia?" video.

@cgabriel777 I am Russian. Stop spreading lies about the history of my country. If you want to understand the Bolsheviks, then instead of reading the books of the nationalists (Solzhenitsyn), read the works of the Bolsheviks themselves. Shock!
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@cgabriel777 In science, it is customary to use primary sources of information. For the Nazis, this is Hitler's book and his orders. For fascism, this is Mussolini's book. For Soviet communism, these are the works of Lenin-Stalin. If, in order to understand the policy of the Bolsheviks, you begin to read the opinion of their opponents (nationalists, liberals), then you see the interpretation of people who do not like this system, but you do not see the thoughts of the authors of the policy. What is a crime for Solzhenitsyn is not such for the Bolsheviks. For example, the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact. What did the USSR get? Non-aggression pact, economic treaty and sphere of influence in Europe. How is this bad from the point of view of Soviet interests? Or fighting religion. The Bolsheviks believed that religion had a bad effect on the critical thinking of a person. Therefore, the fight against religious propaganda makes your society healthier. But the nationalists believed that this was the destruction of Russian culture. However, the Bolsheviks divided culture into progressive and regressive - they supported the first and fought against the second. Do you see how things change when you use the right context? Or are you saying that the Soviet invasion of Europe was a crime. Now look what happened: Romania annexed Bessarabia in 1919, the USSR returned this region in 1940. Poland annexed part of Ukraine in 1921, and the USSR returned it in 1939. How is this bad for the USSR? Any state has its own national and geopolitical interests. But Solzhenitsyn was able to convince you that the defense of Soviet interests is a crime.
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@cgabriel777 The opinion of people who suffered from the policy of the Soviet government is also propaganda, only anti-Soviet. Using such a source of information, you will understand the position of the opponents of communism, and not its authors. If your goal is to study communism, then you will use the original source of information. But if your goal is to fight against communism, then you will continue to study the opinions of the victims.
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@cgabriel777 Open the Soviet constitution and you will see that freedom of religion was proclaimed in the USSR. But religious propaganda is prohibited because it negatively affects a person's thinking. Those dissatisfied with the policies of the Soviet government were a minority in the USSR, and Solzhenitsyn is trying to show that they were in the majority. This is manipulation. There is a lot of false information in his book. In reality, there is no division into normal Russians and communists - they are all Russian. You insult the history of my country when you say that the USSR had nothing to do with Russia. The civil war and the war against Germany were won by Soviet patriots. Industrialization, the atomic bomb, the eradication of illiteracy, the equal rights of women, the reduction of the working day, the reduction of class privileges, the separation of church and state, the collegial government of the state - all these are the achievements of Russians under the leadership of the Bolsheviks.
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@cgabriel777 1. You need to take statistics from Soviet documents, not from Solzhenitsyn's book. During the Great Terror (1937-1938), 4 million people were restricted in their rights. Of these, 682 thousand were sentenced to death. This is a statistical minority. The total population during this period is about 170 million people. 2. During the war with Germany, being a communist was considered very prestigious. Therefore, according to statistics, from 30 to 50% of all Soviet soldiers were members of various communist organizations. The activities of the NKVD did not differ from the activities of the soldiers. 3. You constantly say that the Bolsheviks were criminals. This is the point of view of Solzhenitsyn which you do not check for authenticity. Just look at what state Russia was in after the civil war and how could such a state win the war against Germany? Because the main policy of the Bolsheviks was aimed at the development of the state, and not at repression. Solzhenitsyn is deceiving you. Adequate people will not allow you to erase the Soviet period from Russian history.
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@roguestate6221 Which of the things I said is wrong?
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@boombap1176 1. I know that this is a series. To save time, I watched only those fragments that relate to the history of Russia. I have a lot of experience in the study of history, so I immediately see the main idea of the film - to swap the Nazis and their victims. Some right-wingers in Russia use similar tactics. 2. Find the text of the Soviet constitution and read it. For example, let's take the constitution of 1936. Article #123 says that all citizens, regardless of nationality, should have equal rights. Article #124 says that in order to ensure freedom of conscience, the church is separated from the state, and a person retains the right to any faith, including anti-religious propaganda. Article #125 says that everyone has the right to freedom of speech, press and rallies. Of course, some articles were violated in the USSR. For example, during the Great Terror (1937-1938), an article was violated that said that only a court can establish a person's guilt. But special commissions of 3 people were created who violated this procedure. However, with regard to the equality of citizens, I do not remember that there were facts of the introduction of slavery. When they talk about the gulag, they forget to say that a person received freedom after the expiration of the sentence. 3. With regard to German plans for Europe, I recommend that you find the text of the following conferences between Hitler and the generals: - November 5, 1937 (also known as the Hossbach protocol). - May 23, 1939 - August 22, 1939 - November 23, 1939 - January 9, 1941. It is also necessary to remember that Hitler, for propaganda purposes, spoke one information to the public, and at closed meetings he spoke another (truth).
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@boombap1176 You don't understand the difference between left and right ideas. The left supports social progress, while the right supports traditions. It didn't start in 1917, but after the French Revolution (1789). The left supported the transformation of the monarchy into a republic, while the right saw it as a worldwide conspiracy to destroy traditional values. After the revolution in Russia, they simply said that this was a new stage in the conspiracy. The right sees religion as a good foundation for society, while the left (Bolsheviks) see religion as a relic of the old society that negatively affects the critical thinking of a person. The Bolsheviks set a goal to modernize society, so they supported anti-religious propaganda. They had a positive purpose to give society a scientific foundation, which they called Marxism.. But the nationalists interpreted their policies as a plot to destroy public morality. The right does not understand that public culture has progressive and regressive currents. The Bolsheviks supported the progressive and suppressed the regressive. Therefore, the interpretation of the right-wing in relation to the Bolsheviks is incorrect at the level of worldview.
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@boombap1176 The modern far left and the Bolsheviks are not the same. There were several periods in the USSR. During Lenin, women received equal social rights with men, abortions were allowed, and non-traditional orientation was considered part of the freedom of the individual. It was a revolutionary period. But it ended, and during Stalin's time, non-traditional orientation was considered a mental illness, and gays were treated in a psychiatric hospital. Abortions were allowed only for medical reasons. Prostitution was banned by law, as weel as pornography. In any case, this does not give the nationalists the right to create a fake reality of life in the USSR.
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@IblewuponyourfaceIII Anthony Sutton is a economist, not a historian. He created a conspiracy theory.
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@boguslawgajdeczko6207 I rely on rational arguments. You rely on a conspiracy theory.
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@boombap1176 1. The theory of class struggle was discovered by the French in 1820. 2. You still have not provided any evidence that the Bolsheviks believed in Judaism. Not a single quote from Lenin, Stalin or Trotsky. You can't use a theory as fact until it's proven.
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I am Russian. Why are you spreading false information about the history of my country? Why do you say that the fight against religion that oppresses critical thinking is bad? Why are you talking about fake medical experiments? Instead of reading right-wing literature on communism, open the work of the Bolsheviks themselves.
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This is a tabloid myth. The Russian opposition passed through the territory of Germany in exchange for the Germans interned from Russia.
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@cgabriel777 1. I do not deny that the Soviet government killed people. I say that 5% of their policy was aimed at terror and 95% at the development of the state and society. Solzhenitsyn's book is propaganda because it creates the illusion that 95% of politics in the USSR is terror. I suggest you look at what was in the USSR besides terror. 2. I answered your question why the Bolsheviks fought against religious propaganda, but you ignored it. 3. You have not read a single work of Lenin or Stalin, but you have already concluded that the Bolsheviks wanted to become a new religion and turn their citizens into slaves. This is your mistake. 4. You have not read the discussion in the Soviet government about the burial of Lenin's body. 5. Excellent. Now you take another anti-communist book (Orwell who collaborated with British intelligence) and tell me what kind of society the Bolsheviks wanted to create. Why don't you read the works of the Bolsheviks themselves? It seems that your goal is not to study history, but to fight against the Bolsheviks. Moreover, these Bolsheviks are virtual because you do not study the real ones.
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@boombap1176 Russia before the revolution had anti-Semitic laws. This was the reason why many Jews supported the revolution. But this is not a Jewish conspiracy. These Jews were not nationalists, they were internationalists. You use right-wing propaganda that calls the revolution in Russia Jewish, but you never read the works of the Bolsheviks themselves. After the revolution, any religious propaganda was banned because it has a destructive effect on the critical thinking of a person.
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@boombap1176 The Jewish conspiracy theory is a myth created by right-wing Russian emigration. They needed to explain why they lost the civil war and they found the reason. Please do not believe those sources of information that love such theories, just take and read the works of the Bolsheviks themselves. It must be available in your country.
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@boombap1176 The qualities of a man depend on his ideas. Your mistake is that you think that all Jews are automatically Judaists. You are looking at the nationality of a person, and not at what ideas he supports. I don't see that you read any of the works of the Bolsheviks. Instead, you use false information that the Jews control the revolution (the right-wing emigration created false lists of the Soviet government). This is a classic conspiracy theory.
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@boombap1176 Right-wing emigration created a fake list of the Soviet government where 90% were Jews. In reality, here is a list of the first Soviet government: Vladimir Lenin - Russian. Alexey Rykov - Russian. Vladimir Milyutin - Russian. Alexander Shlyapnikov - Russian. Vladimir Ovsienko - Ukrainian. Nikolay Krylenko - Ukrainian. Pavel Dybenko - Ukrainian. Victor Nogin - Russian. Anatoly Lunacharsky - Russian. Ivan Skvortsov - Russian. Georgy Oppokov - Russian. Ivan Teodorovich - Polish. Nikolay Avilov - Russian. Iosif Stalin - Georgian. Leon Trotsky - Jew. But it does not matter because the quality of a person is determined by his views, and not by nationality. If you say that Soviet Jews were supporters of their religion, which had the goal of destroying Christianity, then you need to find in what documents or speeches they declared this. Hint: the "Protocols of Zion" is a fake that has nothing to do with the Soviet government.
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@boombap1176 1. You have not provided any evidence that the Bolsheviks relied on Judaism. No quotations from the works of the Bolsheviks. 2. You use the fact of closing churches in Russia as evidence of Judaism. But that's just your interpretation. You have not provided evidence that the Bolsheviks put such a meaning into their policies. 3. The communist ideology arose after the French historians (Augustin Thierry, Francois Meunier and Francois Guizot) created the theory of class struggle. The first communist revolution also occurred in France in 1871. France is part of Europe, and its culture is part of Western European culture.
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@boombap1176 1. This movie is a classic conspiracy theory that tries to swap the aggressor and his victim. Science studies primary sources of information. We have documented records of Hitler's conversations with German generals where he says that he plans to start a war in Europe. 2. As far as communism is concerned, its root is an attempt to overcome the shortcomings of the capitalist system. Neither in Marx's manifesto nor in the works of the Bolsheviks is there anything about Judaism.
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@boombap1176 I have watched this movie twice. It contains too much fake information and misinterpretations. Here are some examples: - It says that the murder of Tsar Nicholas 2 and his family was a ritual sacrifice for the Jews, although there is no documentary evidence for this. It's just another conspiracy theory. - Or a quote from Karl Marx about the need for a revolutionary holocaust. If you open the indicated book, you will see that there is an article by Engels "the struggle in Hungary" which divides the nations into revolutionary and reactionary. - Or a quote from Trotsky where he wants to turn Russia into a desert. This fake quote is well known today in Russia, but its author is not Trotsky, but a newspaper of the Russian fascist party that was in exile in China. - The film says that communism was based on the idea of conquering the world. Although if you open Marx's manifesto, you will see what it says about the struggle against capitalist exploitation. - The film says that a slave-owning regime was organized in the USSR, but if you open the Soviet constitution, you will see that slavery is officially prohibited. - Fake information that the American bankers' money was part of the plan of Judaism. Although in reality, some bankers supported the February revolution because it was democratic in nature. - Fake information that the Red Army and the NKVD consisted of Jews. In reality, in 1920, there were 79% Russians in the Red Army, 5% Ukrainians, 3.4% Tatars, and 2.2% Belarusians. In the NKVD there were 77.3% Russians, 9.1% Jews + other nationalities. - Fake information that the white army consisted of Christians. In fact, religion and the monarchy had a low popularity after the February Revolution. - Wrong interpretation of the condemnation of anti-Semitism in the USSR as an indicator of Judaism. In reality, this is a process of democratization of society. You can find what Lenin said about this on July 25, 1918. - Quotes from the book of the nationalist Solzhenitsyn as a criterion for understanding Soviet policy. In reality, this person waged an information war against this government. Fake data from his book is well known today in Russia. - Fake information that the famine in the USSR was man-made. - Fake Lenin quotes that are not in his works. - etc.
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@boombap1176 Science studies the subject based on primary sources of information. For soviet politics, these are soviet documents, the constitution, the works of Lenin, orders of Stalin etc. If you start watching films from foreign nationalists or their Russian counterparts (Solzhenitsyn) to study soviet communism, then you are making a big mistake. Because these people do not have full access to the documents, but they have a great motivation to show their ideological opponents as the devil. Then you tell me that my picture of the world is far removed from reality. But your reality was created by the nationalists, not the Bolsheviks. You can rely on the works of nationalists only in case of their own policy.
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Sutton is an economist, not a historian. He created a conspiracy theory that the United States financed the revolution. Another theory says that the revolution was financed by Germany. Instead of looking for foreign roots, try to study the internal situation in Russia. Try to read the works of the Bolsheviks themselves.
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> Sutton was not a conspiracy theorist. > You live in the NWO lie.
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