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As a lifelong agnostic, I have very little time for any organised religion. However, the one I currently have the least time for is Islam, quite simply because it seems to be the only one that demands most respect for its values, whilst simultaneously showing least respect for others’ values.
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@matthewm7487 Here’s the difference, as it stands: if I were a famous public figure and castigated Jesus publicly, very likely nothing would happen. However, if I publicly lambasted Muhammad, I’d be very likely forced to watch my back for the rest of my life. Just ask Salman Rushdie. Islam’s intolerance to criticism is anathema.
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@adrianhoyle6131 Religion is just manmade stuff, man. That’s fine, I dig some manmade stuff, but let’s not pretend it’s any more than that. Imo, the complete works of Shakespeare contain more human/spiritual wisdom that the Bible/Quran combined! 👍
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@sanaalkhalil Incidentally, it’s a bit rich of someone who themselves has been brainwashed into following a primitive, tribal, desert religion calling another ‘brainwashed’. I always find it very interesting that the overwhelming majority of those who follow an organised religion follow the religion which predominates in the culture into which they are born. That fact alone tells me we are dealing with human 🐑 here. 👍
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@brotimes7879 Here’s the difference: Shakespeare is human. Shakespeare is wise. Shakespeare lives. I’m very au fait with all 3 main monotheisms (particularly Judaism/Christianity) and have read all the texts. Dry. Occasional pearls of wisdom. Some lovely passages here and there. But far too much of it is just hectoring, bullying, threatening thou shalt not, or else. Obey, or else. I don’t respond well to threats. It’s all manmade. Just like Shakespeare. Only Shakespeare’s 10x better! 👍
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@brotimes7879 Look, pal. Just because you’ve invested your life in a manmade text you’ve convinced yourself is divine, don’t offload that on me. 👍
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@sanaalkhalil Oh, I’ve read the Koran, pal. It’s a disaster zone of primitive self-contradictory dangerous nonsense my life can easily do without. It threatens you if you don’t obey. It pretends there is no compulsion… Quran 2:256: “There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong.” …but in the next breath it tells us: Quran 9:5: “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” Killing people if they don’t repent, establish prayer, etc is coercion/compulsion. You can’t hold a gun to someone’s head, say they have a choice, and also say they aren’t being coerced. It’s all poppycock, invented by men, principally for men.
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@mreshadow Not sure what you mean. 🤔 I just think. If you’re talking texts, I read something at 18 and 3 decades later I haven’t read anything to top it. It goes like this: This is what you shall do: Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body. (Walt Whitman)
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@brotimes7879 How do you know what I’ve been ‘exposed to’? You know f*ck-all about me, pal! 🤣👍 Your presumptuous arrogance is staggering!
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@sanaalkhalil You know nothing about me. You’ve thrown your religious eggs into the Islamic basket. That’s fine. That doesn’t prevent all organised religion being manmade and therefore being infinitely fallible. As a wise person once said: We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. I say that not actually as an atheist, but as an honest person who just does not know and rules nothing out; not because I fear some eternal hell, but because I don’t know.
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@brotimes7879 No. You’ve got it all wrong: I don’t like the Bible because I find 90% of it dry, dull and incredibly tedious. Nice try, though.👍
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@brotimes7879 “Christianity being the only religion in the world in which God made himself human”… yeah, but c’mon, man. That’s just convenient for Christians and Christianity when we all know the whole shebang was stolen wholesale from the dying/resurrecting pagan gods and repackaged for a Christian audience. Outside the gospels/Paul/gnostic stuff, there is very little evidence Jesus even existed historically. A mention here and there in the Jewish/Roman histories but very little. You don’t have to try and convince me of anything. I’ve read the texts and I’ve read texts on the texts and texts on the texts on the texts and still my working conclusion is that I think Jesus is just a nice story that had been told in a slightly different form to comfort humans and their natural fear of death. There might be a God. Who knows? I don’t. Neither do you. 👍😉
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@brotimes7879 Lol. Shakespeare is infinitely more interesting and engaging than the Bible, pal. Virtually every line he wrote is pregnant with human wisdom and worldly wisdom. If you’re deaf to that, that’s your loss. But that’s the difference: too much of your ‘good book’ is just rambling padding. Too easy to lose interest after a few lines, unless you actually believe it as ‘the word of God’.
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@brotimes7879 Another thing: isn’t it interesting that your religion of choice just happens to be the majority religion obtaining in the country of your birth? If you had been born in Tokyo, you’d no doubt be following some other invisible sky daddy other or no sky daddy at all. Or Tehran. Or New Delhi. Or Beijing. 😉
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@brotimes7879 K, bro. I need to clock off. Cheers, son! 👍
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@brotimes7879 You - “I guess I find 91% of Shakespeare incredibly dull and tedious.” Also you - “I actually like Shakespeare.” 🤦‍♂️Make up your mind, son!
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@brotimes7879 I don’t agree with your equivalence between the Bible and Shakespeare. I don’t agree that “every line in the Bible is also filled with wisdom and philosophy.” That’s simply not true. I repeat: much of it is just tedious rigmarole and house-checking. It’s only those who buy the text wholesale as the ‘word of God’ who tend to state what you’ve just stated. Those of us with critical faculties and who haven’t bought the God thing can easily see a good 90% of it is just boring. It’s just a fact, mate. You may not like it, but it’s just a fact. 👍
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@brotimes7879 Ok. I genuinely have no idea wtf you’re going on about at this point and I’m not sure you do, either. I think we better just leave it there, m8.👍
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