Comments by "Ricardo Cabeza" (@ricardocabeza6006) on "Trump denies that he agreed to defend the Constitution" video.

  1. As a Canadian, did you know the oath of office for the president is explicitly stated in the constitution, and unlike Judicial or Congressional oaths, it does not include the word "support"...
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  2. Can you please quote the congressional and judicial oaths, so we can all see how those oaths actually do include the word "support"...?
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  3. The 14th amendment specifically uses the word "support", just like the congressional and judicial oaths use the word "support"... However, the presidential oath detailed in the constitution does not use the word "support". Didn't you pay attention? This isn't difficult.
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  4.  @BunnEFartz  Legally... everyone is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of peers. Did you forget that part?
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  5.  @asole100  Try actually reading the 14th Amendment. It's obvious you haven't.
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  6.  @keirfarnum6811  You didn't answer my question. Why does the oath taken by congress contain different words than the one taken by the President?
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  7. So it's idiotic that the Presidential Oath and the Constitutional Oath taken by everyone else, contain different words? Do you think a Senator should take the Presidential Oath, or are they different oaths with different words for a reason?
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  8. So he should be disqualified because the Presidential Oath and the Constitutional Oath contain different words...?
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  9.  @jimkeogh8552  So because preserve implies support, the oath taken by everyone except the President says "support and defend the Constitution"...? Please, make your nonsense make sense.
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  10. It's amazing how you completely missed the point. Actually, it's not amazing it's just sad.
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  11.  @computerrepairguy  His lawyers are arguing the differences between the Presidential Oath and the Constitutional Oath taken by everyone else. A blue Judge in a blue State agreed with this argument. Clearly you're the one in an alternate reality. Try reading more than just the headlines on a Newsweek article.
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  12. The 14th explicitly says "support". The Constitutional Oath taken by congress and justices says "support". The Presidential Oath taken by the President does not. How is this difficult to understand? Do you think Senators should take the Presidential Oath? Or does it contain different words for a reason?
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  13.  @BunnEFartz  Can you please quote where I said any of those people are guilty? Seems like you're imagining things.
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  14.  @johnsarradet2459  No bro, I didn't forget that part. Have those trials happened yet, bro?
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  15. You really didn't grasp the concept here, did you?
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  16. You realize the Constitutional Oath taken by every other member of government does include the word "support"...? You do realize members of congress do not take the presidential oath, correct?
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  17. Well... that's not what the argument is at all. Do you have dementia?
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  18. Why does the Constitutional Oath taken by members of Congress include the word "support" and the Presidential Oath does not?
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  19. No... You did not take the Presidential Oath. You took the Constitutional Oath. These are two totally different oaths with different words because they are for different roles in our government. It's absolutely pathetic that you don't understand this.
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  20. So why does the Constitutional Oath taken by everyone else explicitly say "support the constitution"... just like the 14th Amendment does, while the Presidential Oath does not use the word "support"...?
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  21. Now, can you quote the Constitutional Oath that every other member of the government takes? Then we can see how it does actually contain the word "support" just like the 14th Amendment does, and the Presidential Oath does not.
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  22.  @mightymystery9204  So the variation in words in the two oaths do not make a difference? You think Senators should take the Presidential Oath? You think there's nothing unique or specific about each oath for their specific roles in government?
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  23.  @robertaldaron8617  Yes, let's be specific. Please now quote the Constitutional Oath all other elected officials take. Then please quote the line of the 14th Amendment in discussion. Notice the use of "support the constitution" in both and its absence in the Presidential Oath you quoted.
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  24.  @bullonu  It's not splitting hairs. The Presidential Oath which is taken by the President, and the Constitutional Oath which is taken by all other elected officials are different oaths with different words. Do you think a Senator should take the Presidential oath? Or is that a different oath with different words for a reason?
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  25. Nope. The 14th explicitly uses the word "support"... Just like the oath taken by every office except the President.
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  26.  @Autohagiographer23  Why do I need to explain the functional difference? I'm not the Judge that heard this case and agreed with the argument presented by Trump's attorneys.
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  27.  @Groffili  Tell me, do you think there is a reason the Presidential Oath has different words than the Constitutional Oath taken by congress and justices? Do you think a Senator should take the Presidential Oath?
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  28.  @JohnFenlon  Oh, so if it's just synonyms... Why don't Senators take the Presidential Oath? Do you think they contain different words for a reason?
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  29.  @icin4d  Please read the Presidential Oath and the Constitutional Oath. Then ask your question again. Clearly based on your question you have not done even the basic research on the topic, as both oaths contain the word "defend". But both oaths do not contain the word "support" as the 14th amendment explicitly states. And I'm not even a Trump supporter. I just live in reality where there are different oaths with different words for a reason. Newly elected senators and representatives don't take the Presidential oath for a reason.
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  30.  @Groffili  Well actually according to the 14th, Senators would be allowed to engage in insurrection, but Congress must vote to allow them to still hold office. Essentially, it requires a national vote, which is carried out by the representatives each state elected. Given that the President is the only office elected with a nationwide vote, would you say that's a democratic equivalent of a congressional vote?
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  31.  @Groffili  But it is the argument Trump's lawyers are making. They are arguing the 14th Amendment does not apply to the President. The congressional vote clause supports this notion that the 14th does not apply to the President. Given that a congressional vote is a useless in application with a President, if the President is already elected by a nationwide vote. And it's the only office to be elected in that way. I'm simply trying to show you how these offices are different and why they have different oaths with different words.
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  32.  @suehowie152  My feelings are irrelevant. This is about what the Constitution says or does not say. Feelings do not change the words on the pages.
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  33.  @Batfan166  Can you please quote that part? Or is it just in your imagination?
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  34.  @Batfan166  Oh no, are you pretending the President doesn't have the unilateral ability to declassify documents again?
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  35.  @johnsarradet2459  You can say not at all. But that doesn't change reality. And reality is a blue judge in a blue state agreed with this argument from Trump's attorneys.
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  36. What about the blue Judge in a blue State that agreed with their argument? Fact is, the Presidential Oath and the Constitutional Oath are different oaths. They contain different words for a reason. Or do you think newly elected congress members should take the Presidential Oath?
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  37. The Presidential Oath and the Constitutional Oath are not the same thing. They contain different words, because they are for different people.
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  38. It's more disturbing that there is a mass of people that openly support a sitting president imprisoning their political opponent before an election.
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  39. Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President.
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  40. So why don't the Constitutional oaths taken by congress include the word "preserve" and instead they include the word "support"...?
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  41. No. Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President.
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  42. Actually, that phrasing is unique to the presidential oath specified in the constitution. Every other elected official's constitutional oath says "support and defend the Constitution"....
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  43. You realize a blue Judge in a blue State agreed with his lawyers' argument, right?
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  44. If you think he said the word "support" like the oaths taken by other members of government, then you need serious help. The presidential oath does not include this word.
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  45.  @cybertoe1221  Trump is a moron, just like you.
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  46. That's neat. You didn't take the Presidential Oath, because you're not the President. And this is about the words in that oath, not the words in the oath you took.
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  47. Your imagination is getting the best of you. I hope you get the help you need.
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  48. No... POTUS is the Head of State. Those working for the head of state, are their officers. Didn't you take a civics class?
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  49.  @bekindist  Actually, he's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of peers. I'm not a supporter of the orange buffoon. I just live in reality, unlike this channel's audience.
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  50.  @jorgejohnson451  Nothing you just stated is stated in the Constitution in reference to the word "officer". Please try reading it some time, it's clear you never have.
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  51.  @markjackson3459  What catch all? Any Constitutional citations?
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  52.  @corkedfever  Takes office... Do you not know what an office is?
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  53.  @christiandoyle7783  Please tell me, what do you think an "office" is...? And if we add an "r" to the end of the word, does it change definitions? Pretty straightforward stuff indeed, it's just basic literacy.
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  54.  @christiandoyle7783  So in Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution which gives the president the ability to appoint officers of the United States... POTUS can appoint himself as President? No, of course not, because the Presidency is not an Officer position. There are Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are POTUS. Seriously, have you ever read the Constitution?
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  55.  @Power_to_the_people567  How about Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 which according to the supreme court, establishes two types of officers. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the POTUS...
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  56.  @corkedfever  Do you know what a Principal Officer or Inferior Officer is, as detailed in the Constitution?
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  57.  @unnimack9687  Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President.
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  58.  @chrisgillings537  CEO? Really? I think you are confusing your terms. But feel free to reference the Constitution. Speaking of the Constituion... Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President.
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  59.  @Scriber_420  Well that's neat. Nothing you just said changes the fact Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President.
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  60.  @KevinCoop1  That's cute but Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President. Try again.
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  61.  @Scriber_420  So you're saying I passed civics and these other people did not?
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  62.  @Scriber_420  Do you notice how you're defaulting to attempting a frivolous insult, rather than actually addressing any errors in what I've said?
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  63. ​ @Starhawke_Gaming  Hmm. Interesting. So anyone with an office is an officer...? Fact is Article 2 Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution establishes two types of Officers of the United States. Principal Officers and Inferior Officers, neither of which are the President. Try again.
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  64.  @KevinCoop1  The Supreme Court has interpreted these requirements as distinguishing between two types of officers: principal officers who must be appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate to their position, and inferior officers, whose appointment Congress may place with the President, judiciary, or department heads. (Buckley v. Valeo 1976) Now tell me, is the President either one of those types of officers...?
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  65.  @Starhawke_Gaming  Wow, anyone working in an office building is an officer. That's so neat. That means NYC is just filled with officers. See how ridiculous this sounds? Also, it's not my opinion that there are two types of Officers of the United States. It is the opinion of the Supreme Court in Buckley v. Valeo (1976). Do you have any Constitutional citation or Supreme Court ruling to support your claims, like I have provided? Or are these claims merely just your opinion, an opinion that is wrong?
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  66.  @Scriber_420  Do you realize Biden has actually taken the Constitutional Oath, which includes the word "support"...? He was a Senator.
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  67.  @Starhawke_Gaming  Since you're too lazy to even google this topic and do the slightest amount of research. I'll quote the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on this topic, pay attention to the last sentence. Maybe this will help you understand better.... "An officer of the United States is a functionary of the executive or judicial branches of the federal government of the United States to whom is delegated some part of the country's sovereign power. The term officer of the United States is not a title, but a term of classification for a certain type of official." -Wikipedia article for "Officer of the United States"
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  68.  @Starhawke_Gaming  Notice how I continuously cite and reference government sources for information? Could you please do the same with your claim?
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  69.  @KevinCoop1  Why do you want a sitting president to imprison their political opposition before an election?
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  70.  @Scriber_420  No, I have a municipal water supply, not a well.
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  71.  @KevinCoop1  You're right, this does take some thinking through to find the answer. So when Article 2 of the Constitution clearly states that Officers of the United States will be appointed by either the President or Congress... which of these apply to the President? Does the President appoint the President? Does Congress appoint the President? Or is it neither because the President is elected?
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  72.  @Autohagiographer23  You realize that same Judge agreed with Trump's attorneys on this topic. Correct? It's not what I think, it's what the court thinks.
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  73.  @Autohagiographer23  According to the Court that saw this case... Yes.
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  74.  @Scriber_420  You mean the Article that is specific to the topic at hand? Yes. Should I cite an Article of the Constitution that doesn't apply to this topic?
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  75.  @KevinCoop1  Yes... because Officer of the United States is a classification of certain roles within our government. Appointed roles. For example, a US Ambassador is an Officer of the United States, but a Senator is not. Notice how the in 14th amendment, congress is listed separate from officers. Members of Congress hold office but are not officers. If simply holding office was the only qualification of the tittle of Officer of the United States, then the 14th is redundant by listing out various other classifications beyond simply saying officers. Officer of the United States is one of many classifications of positions listed in the 14th.
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  76.  @KevinCoop1  Officer of the Executive Branch is not the same thing as Officer of the United States. Notice how each title has different words with different meanings? Officer of the United States is a classification of a specific non-elected positions in government. This really isn't complicated. I'm not sure why you are struggling with this basic concept.
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  77. You realize the blue Judge in a blue State agreed with this argument, correct?
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  78. That's cool man. The oath you took is not the Presidential Oath. They contain different words, because you're not the president.
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  79. Thanks for clarifying that he did not swear to "support the constitution" like the 14th Amendment and Constitutional Oath explicitly state.
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  80. So why does the Constitutional Oath taken by everyone else explicitly say "support the constitution"... just like the 14th does?
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