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The Commie invasion of Vietnam was never about colonization of Vietnam and you know it
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Sino-Vietnamese conflicts (1979ā1991)
When the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) withdrew from Vietnam in March 1979 after the war, China announced that they were not ambitious for "any square inch of the territory of Vietnam".[3] However, Chinese troops occupied an area of 60 square kilometres (23 sq mi), which was disputed land controlled by Vietnam before hostilities broke out.[4] In some places such as the area around Friendship Gate near the city of LẔng SƔn, Chinese troops occupied territories which had little military value but important symbolic value. Elsewhere, Chinese troops occupied the strategic positions of military importance as springboards to attack Vietnam.[5]
The Chinese occupation of border territory angered Vietnam, and this ushered in a series of border conflicts between Vietnam and China to gain control of the area. These conflicts continued until 1988, peaking in the years 1984ā1985.[6] By the early 1990s, along with the withdrawal of Vietnam from Cambodia and the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the relationship between the two countries gradually returned to normality. By 1991, the two countries proclaimed the normalization of their diplomatic relations, thereby ending the border conflicts.
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Yes local Governments for example could start charging property taxes
The smart people would have moved already
Still a lot better than western countries sticking that debt into their Sovereign external debt.
Even then take the US Internal debt at 300 trillion. Where they have already borrowed 34 trillion externally
At least the Chinese could go borrow externally if all else fails
The USA is where people should be worried if itās about debt
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China's Creative Accounting: How It Buried Its Debt and Forged Ahead with Stimulus
China has a history of taking debt off its books and burying it, which should prompt us to poke and prod its numbers. If we go back to the last time China cooked the national books big time, during the Asian currency crisis of 1997, we can get an idea of where its debt might be hidden now.
The majority of bank loans, says Jubak, went to state-owned companies -- about 70% of the total. The collapse of China's export trade following the crisis meant that its banks were suddenly sitting on billions in debts that were clearly never going to be paid. But that was when China's largest banks were trying to raise capital by selling stock in Hong Kong and New York, and no bank could go public with that much bad debt on its books.
The creative solution? The Beijing government set up special-purpose asset management companies for the four largest state-owned banks, the equivalent of the "special purpose vehicles" designed by Wall Street to funnel real estate loans off U.S. bank books. The Chinese entities ultimately bought $287 billion in bad loans from state-owned banks. To pay for the loans, they issued bonds to the banks, on which they paid interest. The state-owned banks thus got $287 billion in toxic debt off their books and turned the bad loans into an income stream from the bonds.
Sound familiar? Wall Street did the same thing in the 2008 bailout, with the U.S. government underwriting the deal. The difference was that China's largest banks were owned by the government, so the government rather than a private banking cartel got the benefit of the arrangement. According to British economist Samah El-Shahat, writing in Al Jazeera in August 2009:
China hasn't allowed its banking sector to become so powerful, so influential, and so big that it can call the shots or highjack the bailout. In simple terms, the government preferred to answer to its people and put their interests first before that of any vested interest or group. And that is why Chinese banks are lending to the people and their businesses in record numbers.
In the US and UK, by contrast:
banks have captured all the money from the taxpayers and the cheap money from quantitative easing from central banks. They are using it to shore up, and clean up their balance sheets rather than lend it to the people. The money has been hijacked by the banks, and our governments are doing absolutely nothing about that. In fact, they have been complicit in allowing this to happen
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Yes local Governments for example could start charging property taxes
The smart people would have moved already
Still a lot better than western countries sticking that debt into their Sovereign external debt.
Even then take the US Internal debt at 300 trillion. Where they have already borrowed 34 trillion externally
At least the Chinese could go borrow externally if all else fails
The USA is where people should be worried if itās about debt
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China's Creative Accounting: How It Buried Its Debt and Forged Ahead with Stimulus
China has a history of taking debt off its books and burying it, which should prompt us to poke and prod its numbers. If we go back to the last time China cooked the national books big time, during the Asian currency crisis of 1997, we can get an idea of where its debt might be hidden now.
The majority of bank loans, says Jubak, went to state-owned companies -- about 70% of the total. The collapse of China's export trade following the crisis meant that its banks were suddenly sitting on billions in debts that were clearly never going to be paid. But that was when China's largest banks were trying to raise capital by selling stock in Hong Kong and New York, and no bank could go public with that much bad debt on its books.
The creative solution? The Beijing government set up special-purpose asset management companies for the four largest state-owned banks, the equivalent of the "special purpose vehicles" designed by Wall Street to funnel real estate loans off U.S. bank books. The Chinese entities ultimately bought $287 billion in bad loans from state-owned banks. To pay for the loans, they issued bonds to the banks, on which they paid interest. The state-owned banks thus got $287 billion in toxic debt off their books and turned the bad loans into an income stream from the bonds.
Sound familiar? Wall Street did the same thing in the 2008 bailout, with the U.S. government underwriting the deal. The difference was that China's largest banks were owned by the government, so the government rather than a private banking cartel got the benefit of the arrangement. According to British economist Samah El-Shahat, writing in Al Jazeera in August 2009:
China hasn't allowed its banking sector to become so powerful, so influential, and so big that it can call the shots or highjack the bailout. In simple terms, the government preferred to answer to its people and put their interests first before that of any vested interest or group. And that is why Chinese banks are lending to the people and their businesses in record numbers.
In the US and UK, by contrast:
banks have captured all the money from the taxpayers and the cheap money from quantitative easing from central banks. They are using it to shore up, and clean up their balance sheets rather than lend it to the people. The money has been hijacked by the banks, and our governments are doing absolutely nothing about that. In fact, they have been complicit in allowing this to happen
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China's Creative Accounting: How It Buried Its Debt and Forged Ahead with Stimulus
* China has a history of taking debt off its books and burying it, which should prompt us to poke and prod its numbers. If we go back to the last time China cooked the national books big time, during the Asian currency crisis of 1997, we can get an idea of where its debt might be hidden now.
The majority of bank loans, says Jubak, went to state-owned companies -- about 70% of the total. The collapse of China's export trade following the crisis meant that its banks were suddenly sitting on billions in debts that were clearly never going to be paid. But that was when China's largest banks were trying to raise capital by selling stock in Hong Kong and New York, and no bank could go public with that much bad debt on its books.
The creative solution? The Beijing government set up special-purpose asset management companies for the four largest state-owned banks, the equivalent of the "special purpose vehicles" designed by Wall Street to funnel real estate loans off U.S. bank books.
* Sound familiar? Wall Street did the same thing in the 2008 bailout, with the U.S. government underwriting the deal. The difference was that China's largest banks were owned by the government, so the government rather than a private banking cartel got the benefit of the arrangement. According to British economist Samah El-Shahat, writing in Al Jazeera in August 2009:
China hasn't allowed its banking sector to become so powerful, so influential, and so big that it can call the shots or highjack the bailout. In simple terms, the government preferred to answer to its people and put their interests first before that of any vested interest or group. And that is why Chinese banks are lending to the people and their businesses in record numbers.
In the US and UK, by contrast:
banks have captured all the money from the taxpayers and the cheap money from quantitative easing from central banks. They are using it to shore up, and clean up their balance sheets rather than lend it to the people. The money has been hijacked by the banks, and our governments are doing absolutely nothing about that. In fact, they have been complicit in allowing this to happen.
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The real problem is for years we complained China was the number 1 polluter in the world
Now that they are investing into green, clean, renewable
The complaint is subsidies and overcapacity šššš
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JANUARY 30, 2023
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China Invests $546 Billion in Clean Energy, Far Surpassing the U.S.
China accounted for nearly half of the world's low-carbon spending in 2022, which could challenge U.S. efforts to bolster domestic clean energy manufacturing
Nearly half of the world's low-carbon spending took place in China, according to a recent analysis from market research firm BloombergNEF.
The country spent $546 billion in 2022 on investments that included solar and wind energy, electric vehicles and batteries.
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Analysis: Clean energy was top driver of Chinaās economic growth in 2023
Other key findings of the analysis include:
Clean-energy investment rose 40% year-on-year to 6.3tn yuan ($890bn), with the growth accounting for all of the investment growth across the Chinese economy in 2023.
Chinaās $890bn investment in clean-energy sectors is almost as large as total global investments in fossil fuel supply in 2023 ā and similar to the GDP of Switzerland or Turkey.
Including the value of production, clean-energy sectors contributed 11.4tn yuan ($1.6tn) to the Chinese economy in 2023, up 30% year-on-year.
Clean-energy sectors, as a result, were the largest driver of Chinaā economic growth overall, accounting for 40% of the expansion of GDP in 2023.
Without the growth from clean-energy sectors, Chinaās GDP would have missed the governmentās growth target of āaround 5%ā, rising by only 3.0%
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Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion
Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change
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What most people donāt get?
Is yes in āmostā cases when you go to China to sell into their domestic markets you have to take a Joint Venture (JV) partner
But in āmostā cases when you go to China to open up a factory, and export those goods back to your own country
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you donāt have to take on a JV partner
It is mostly your own European multinationals making the lions share of the profits (who stocks are listed on your stock exchanges and in your own European stock portfolios and Pension funds)
They are the ones sending you those goods and services, inflating that trade deficit you have with China
Not only that, these multinational companies derive a huge amount of profits.
While based in China selling to Chinese domestic consumers
We are just lucky they donāt just boot these foreign companies, as they donāt believe in zero-sum game type of thinking
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Europe's listed firms expect to glean $514 billion in revenue from China
LONDON (Reuters) - European listed firms expect to receive 449 billion euros (Ā£392 billion) in total revenue from China in 2019, with luxury brands and automakers the most exposed sectors, a Refinitiv analysis of company data shows.
The data underscores the role China's burgeoning middle class is increasingly playing in determining the corporate and economic health of Europe, as concerns grow that their spending has slowed as Chinese economic growth cools.
Among the pan-European STOXX 600 index, consumer firms including Swatch, Richemont and BMW, derived the biggest chunk of revenues from China - with a total of 120 billion euros sales from the country, the analysis based on companies' estimates of their 2019 revenue shows.
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Chinese EVs are not even in the USA not sure what you are babbling about
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Chinese had virtually no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago
Now they are going after legacy chip markets
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How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors?
27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock
* Bread and Butter Technology
Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesnāt mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products. In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why.
Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales.
Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices
* China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry
In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about ā¬43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50ā180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World.
The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, itās thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants. Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices. As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers Trendforce believe Chinaās legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices.
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@TeeHee-vo1bn
What most people donāt get?
Is yes in āmostā cases when you go to China to sell into their domestic markets you have to take a Joint Venture (JV) partner
And in āmostā cases when you go to China to open up a factory, and export those goods back to your country you donāt have to take on a JV partner
These days ?????
What most people donāt get?
Is it is US multinationals making the lion share of those profits inflating the trade deficit between China to the USA
Where Chinese companies mostly trade with their Belt and Road country partners these days
These US multinationals are the ones sending you that junk
These US multinationals are still using the same highly polluting labour intensive factories formula.
As they were using more and more illegal labour in their Chinese factories, smuggled in from South East Asia.
Or more and more automation in their wholly owned factories in China these days
These are the same companies who got those trump Corporate tax cuts you for sure cheered about
Same companies based in China who derived 392 billion in sales into the Chinese domestic markets in 2018 when trump started his trade war
Same companies averaging 20% to 40% of their earnings from China whose high flying stocks are in your 401k/Pensions
Same companies who the American farmer and consumer were sacrificed. So the USA could try and get āmoreā or ābetterā access for the US multinationals, into those Chinese Domestic markets during the trade war
Same companies whose HQ is in a North American city you can easily go stand outside and protest atā¦.
Why didnāt China pull the nuclear trade option and boot these US companies you might ask?
They donāt believe in a zero sum game type of thinking
As I can show you during the trade war.
China didnāt pull out their big trade weapons, in fact they were lowering tariffs to most countries not raising them
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Trumpās ātrade warā with China wonāt be so easy to win
Having learned these value chain lessons, Beijing has worked hard to bring more of the high-value-adding parts of value chains into China, and to build hi-tech industries in which it can establish a globally competitive position.
China has successfully done this in areas like high-speed trains (CRRC), digital telecoms networks (Huawei), drones (DJI) and hi-tech batteries (BYD).
Trumpās team is not wrong to be worried about Chinaās competitive emergence here, and to target these new-tech sectors in the latest trade war sortie.
But hereās the problem: China exports almost none of these new-tech products to the US, making US tariff threats meaningless. Rather, they go to developing economy markets ā many embraced by the Belt and Road initiative ā where China has succeeded in building a hi-tech, high-value brand reputation.
As Trumpās team will quickly learn, the challenge of finding Chinaās pain points is bigger than expected: for a decade Chinaās priority has been to base growth on the domestic consumer economy and reduce reliance on the low-value-adding export processing industries (many of which are US- or Hong Kong-owned and concentrated in the Pearl River Delta)
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Huge Price Cuts Rumored From Chinese Developers Due To Collapsing Demand
Vincent Fernando, CFA May 29, 2010
Demand is falling since China's central government announced stricter regulations for property transactions during the middle of April. These involve higher down payments and mortgage rates for the purchase of second home, and act which is seen as potential speculation. Such tightening is reducing buying demand.
Thus a moderately bearish view is that property prices need to come down, since demand is likely down yet supply is the same. This challenge isn't limited to Shanghai:
China Vanke Co, the country's largest publicly listed developer, may cut apartment prices by 10 to 30 percent within three months, the Beijing News said yesterday, citing an unidentified sales agent. Local Vanke officials declined to comment yesterday.
Yet Shanghai is where things could get the ugliest, the earliest. This is because the local Shanghai government is planning to clamp down on speculation even harder than China's central government already has:
Chen Qiwei, a spokesman for the Shanghai municipal government, did not preclude the possibility of levying property tax when asked about this issue at a press conference on Friday.
"Shanghai will take more strict measures in line with the central government policy," Chen said, adding that more efforts will be made in building economically affordable houses and cracking down on speculative house purchasing.
Other cities such as Beijing, Chongqing, and Shenzen could have similar additional taxes, but Shanghai is the first to make an official comment such as above according to China Daily. Thing is, any action from Shanghai will likely need approval from the central government.
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China Increases Banksā Reserve Ratios to Cool Prices
By Bloomberg News
December 10, 2010 at 4:08 AM PST
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China raises banks' reserve ratios again
Reuters
December 10, 20104:27 AM PSTUpdated 13 years ago
Dec 10, 2010 ā The 50 basis point increase, which takes effect on Dec 20, will leave required reserve ratios at 18.5 percent
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China Property Market āBubbleā Set to Burst, Xie Says
By Bloomberg News
February 1, 2010 at 11:51 PM PST
Chinaās property market ābubbleā is set to burst as the government curbs credit growth and clamps down on speculation, according to independent economist Andy Xie.
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China cracks down on speculators to cool prices
BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
NOV. 23, 2010
The government has ordered banks twice in the past three weeks to raise the amount of money they hold in reserves to rein in lending growth.
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China cracks down on property speculation Source:Global Times Published: 2010
The Chinese government has raised the down payment for second-home buyers to a minimum 50 percent of the value from 40 percent, in a bid to curb property speculation.
The decision was announced in a statement released Thursday after conclusion of an executive meeting of the State Council, the Cabinet, presided over by Premier Wen Jiabao, on Wednesday.
First-home buyers must pay no less than 30 percent of the the property price if the area is above 90 square meters, the statement said.
The government was stepping up the introduction of tax policies to influence purchases and adjust property investment returns, said the statement.
Nationwide, land use for the construction of low-income housing, shanty town renovation and small and medium-sized homes (below 90 square meters) should account for at least 70 percent of the land approved for property development, the statement said.
It also urged local authorities to accelerate housing construction approvals to ensure effective land supply, and crack down on land hoarding and speculatory behavior.
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China attempts to deflate its unstable property bubble
China is to spend $200bn on low-cost homes as part of a series of measures to slow the rapidly rising prices of urban houses
Tania Branigan in Beijing
Wed 9 Mar 2011 19.24 GMT
Chinese officials are blaming speculators for soaring property prices and are vowing to build 36m affordable homes over the next five years. There are already widespread concerns about China's booming property market and the threat it poses to the country's expanding economy.
China would spend nearly $200bn (Ā£123bn) on an affordable homes and social housing scheme, said deputy housing minister Qi Ji in Beijing .
The pledge came a few days after premier Wen Jiabao promised to "resolutely" curb speculation to tackle excessively rapid price increases
The authorities have taken various steps since spring last year to dampen the property market. These include raising interest rates, increasing the minimum downpayment required on second homes and restricting the rights of foreigners to buy property. Two Chinese cities are now imposing sales tax on property deals.
While the measures have slowed growth, many fear it remains too high. In March 2010, urban housing prices shot up by 11.7% year-on-year, according to figures from the national bureau of statistics. December saw the lowest increase in more than a year, but it still stood at 6.4%.
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Chinese had virtually no chip making ability/foundries 6 years ago
Now they are going after legacy chip markets
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How Close Is China to World Dominance in Legacy Semiconductors?
27-02-2024 | By Paul Whytock
* Bread and Butter Technology
Obviously, China would like to be a major player when it comes to high-end sophisticated semiconductor devices, but that doesnāt mean they are not interested in the bread-and-butter end of the market, particularly when it comes to legacy products. In fact, they are very interested in the legacy market, and there are some very good reasons why.
Legacy devices make up a huge amount of global chip sales.
Most chips manufactured today are not advanced chips but legacy chips, and around 71% of devices
* China's Aggressive Expansion in the Semiconductor Industry
In September 2023, Reuters reported that China was set to launch a new state-backed fund aimed at raising about ā¬43bn to support its chip industry, and according to research analysts, the Rhodium Group, in less than ten years, China is expected to domestically add nearly as much 50ā180nm wafer manufacturing capacity as the rest of the World.
The views of industry analysts and observers vary, but generally speaking, itās thought that 22 wafer fabs are being built in the country, and there is an overall plan to create a total of 30 new wafer fabrication plants. Many of these will concentrate on the production of legacy devices. As for market share, industry intelligence gatherers Trendforce believe Chinaās legacy chip manufacturing base could provide as much as 30% of the global demand for older devices.
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