Comments by "D W" (@DW-op7ly) on "Toyota u0026 VW sales fall to record lows in China while BYD + Geely skyrocket" video.
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@taylorc2542
What most people don’t get?
Is yes in “most” cases when you go to China to sell into their domestic markets you have to take a Joint Venture (JV) partner
And in “most” cases when you go to China to open up a factory, and export those goods back to your country you don’t have to take on a JV partner
These days ?????
Is it is US multinationals making the lion share of those profits inflating the trade deficit between China to the USA
Where Chinese companies mostly trade with their Belt and Road country partners these days
These US multinationals are the ones sending you that junk
These US multinationals are still using the same highly polluting labour intensive factories formula.
As they were using more and more illegal labour in their Chinese factories, smuggled in from South East Asia.
Or more and more automation in their wholly owned factories in China these days
These are the same companies who got those trump Corporate tax cuts you for sure cheered about
Same companies based in China who derived 392 billion in sales of their goods and services into those Chinese domestic markets in 2018 when trump started his trade war
Same companies averaging 20% to 40% of their earnings from China whose high flying stocks are in your 401k/Pensions
Same companies who the American farmer and consumer were sacrificed. So the USA could try and get “more” or “better” access for the US multinationals, into those Chinese Domestic markets during the trade war
Same companies whose HQ is in a North American city you can easily go stand outside and protest at….
Why didn’t China pull the nuclear trade option and boot these US companies you might ask?
For one, it would crash the US Economy
And the Chinese don’t believe in a zero-sum game type of thinking
As I can show you during the trade war.
China didn’t pull out their big trade weapons, in fact they were lowering tariffs to most countries not raising them
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Trump’s ‘trade war’ with China won’t be so easy to win
Having learned these value chain lessons, Beijing has worked hard to bring more of the high-value-adding parts of value chains into China, and to build hi-tech industries in which it can establish a globally competitive position.
China has successfully done this in areas like high-speed trains (CRRC), digital telecoms networks (Huawei), drones (DJI) and hi-tech batteries (BYD).
Trump’s team is not wrong to be worried about China’s competitive emergence here, and to target these new-tech sectors in the latest trade war sortie.
But here’s the problem: China exports almost none of these new-tech products to the US, making US tariff threats meaningless. Rather, they go to developing economy markets – many embraced by the Belt and Road initiative – where China has succeeded in building a hi-tech, high-value brand reputation.
As Trump’s team will quickly learn, the challenge of finding China’s pain points is bigger than expected: for a decade China’s priority has been to base growth on the domestic consumer economy and reduce reliance on the low-value-adding export processing industries (many of which are US- or Hong Kong-owned and concentrated in the Pearl River Delta)
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@taylorc2542
The western multinationals went to China at the time because of their weak labour laws, weak environmental laws, mass pool of cheap labour they could pay dollar a day wages to
And yes weak IP laws that went along with it
In exchange the western multinationals traded knowledge and investment
This was nothing new, the west goes to 3rd world or developing nation takes advantages of this country until the locals complain about wages, pollution, or environmental damages. Western multinationals pick up and run for it.
I would argue yes they expected the Chinese to buy 1 billion toothbrushes and 2 billion socks
But they didn’t expect them to enrich themselves
My evidence is even before the west pushed for Chinese WTO inclusion the Top of the food chain 1%ters and their TooBigTooFail Investment Banks worked out the worst deal ever for themselves
Where these TooBigTooFail Investments Banks got a 33% interest in a “Joint Venture Chinese Investment Banking Subsidiary.” Where the Chinese Bank got a 67%
Difference is the Chinese didn’t complain they put up with those dollar a day wages making 22 times less than what an average American worker made. Yet saved 30% of those wages over 30 plus years. Indirectly loaning those saving to those Americans so they could spend their savings and borrow to spend some more.
While the Chinese invested or made a business with their savings
Where the Chinese lowered their standards of living while the Americans were able to raise their standards of living with those cheaper goods
If anything the Chinese were dragging their feet on the TRIPS agreement under the WTO….specifically regarding developing countries
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Developing countries’ transition periods Provisions for developing countries, economies in transition from central planning, and least-developed countries
Developing countries and economies in transition from central planning did not have to apply most provisions of the TRIPS Agreement until 1 January 2000.
The provisions they did have to apply deal with non-discrimination.
Article 65.2 and 65.3
Least-developed countries were given until 1 January 2006.
Article 66.1.
Members have agreed to extend the deadline to 1 July 2034, or to the date a country is no longer “least-developed”, if that is earlier.
Pursuant to the Doha Declaration on TRIPS and Public Health, a separate transition period exists for pharmaceutical patents, which currently runs until 1 January 2033.
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JANUARY 30, 2023
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China Invests $546 Billion in Clean Energy, Far Surpassing the U.S.
China accounted for nearly half of the world's low-carbon spending in 2022, which could challenge U.S. efforts to bolster domestic clean energy manufacturing
Nearly half of the world's low-carbon spending took place in China, according to a recent analysis from market research firm BloombergNEF. The country spent $546 billion in 2022 on investments that included solar and wind energy, electric vehicles and batteries.
Scientific American
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Analysis: Clean energy was top driver of China’s economic growth in 2023
Other key findings of the analysis include:
Clean-energy investment rose 40% year-on-year to 6.3tn yuan ($890bn), with the growth accounting for all of the investment growth across the Chinese economy in 2023.
China’s $890bn investment in clean-energy sectors is almost as large as total global investments in fossil fuel supply in 2023 – and similar to the GDP of Switzerland or Turkey.
Including the value of production, clean-energy sectors contributed 11.4tn yuan ($1.6tn) to the Chinese economy in 2023, up 30% year-on-year.
Clean-energy sectors, as a result, were the largest driver of China’ economic growth overall, accounting for 40% of the expansion of GDP in 2023.
Without the growth from clean-energy sectors, China’s GDP would have missed the government’s growth target of “around 5%”, rising by only 3.0%
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