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@rhenry212 that’s the price for a barebones, Audi A3, that’s smaller and cramped inside, will cost more to repair, have next to nothing in features as German cars don’t give you a lot of standard equipment, has the same horsepower yet isn’t much lighter, and won’t last as long. Good luck even finding that 38k Audi on a dealer lot, as they’d never carry that, and even the higher trims might lack features too. For example, it’s tough for me to find BMWs on lots that have adaptive cruise control, and that’s something Toyota, Honda, and Subaru give you standard even on their most basic entry level cars. Also, you don’t have to buy the 40k Camry. You can get an XLE at a lower price that’s still nice inside, has leather, and that base Audi a3 or 2 series will likely feel cheaper inside too. Good luck finding a substantial luxury car for 40k, as those are now 50-55k more so.
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My first car I drove on when I started learning was a 2003 Camry I absolutely loved that car. It was super roomy, comfortable, and extremely reliable. I'd recommend that for anyone learning how to drive. A reliable first car is also a must since you don't want your teen to be stranded or freaking out if something goes wrong. Since Doug was a little vague, my picks for a first car would be a Camry, Accord, Legacy, Mazda3 hatchback, Civic hatchback, or Crosstrek/Impreza hatchback. I'm not into learning on SUVs but if you really want an SUV, then CRV, Rav4, Forester, and CX5 are my picks. If you can, I'd recommend looking 2016 and newer since that's when safety gear like blind spot and forward collision warning started becoming available on mainstream cars.
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@HSCrimson here’s the list of cars with starting prices under 30k that can be had with solid features for that 20-30k:
Trax, trailblazer, maverick, Corolla, Corolla cross, Prius, HRV, Civic, Impreza, Crosstrek, Legacy, Jetta, Taos, Kicks, Sentra, CX30, Mazda3, Kona, Elantra, Seltos, Soul, Niro and K4
That’s 23 cars. Furthermore, you can get or negotiate Camry, accord, K5, Sonata, Forester, Tucson, and Sportage to under 30k in base or second from base form, and they’re all well-equipped. You don’t have to buy a top trim model to get a well-equipped car that functions everyday in day-to-day.
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@HSCrimson if you mean cars as in “sedans/hatchbacks”, then:
Corolla, Prius, Civic, Mazda3, K4, Elantra, Impreza, Crosstrek (if that counts), Jetta, Sentra
That’s 9-10, which is plentiful considering there aren’t many sedans/hatchbacka left. And then you can get/negotiate Camry, Accord, K5s, Sonatas under 30k too. I’d also consider Trax, Niro, and soul in that because you can’t get them with AWD, which is what distinguishes a “crossover” imo. They’re just hatchbacks. There’s still plenty of cars/hatchbacks/crossovers that can be had under 30k.
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@ try that and you’ll be sent to jail or executed in public there. Do that for a country like Belarus, and same thing, heck a person running for president tried that and had to flee knowing she’d be thrown in jail. “Rise up as people and do it themselves” isn’t really a solution and a lot easier said than done. And also, that is happening in North Africa in a region known as the “coup belt”, and the result is endless civil wars, crime, and people’s life on the line at any point. That’s why the INA specifies that you have to prove your life is in danger.
Maybe before you talk idealistically, remember that people don’t want to die and forcing them to die like that is kinda cruel. That’s why a case like North Korea, it makes sense for asylum. These people, they don’t.
Maybe you should try it for them and see how you like it, just saying. Oh wait, we already tried it for Afghanistan, and that turned out so well!
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To be fair, it is a crime to come here illegally. How would you like it if someone broke into your house and didn't hurt you but stayed there without your permission and ate away at your food and resources that you paid for with your hard-earned money? You'd probably not like it and you'd probably even call the cops, so don't expect the US to like it when it's happening on a large scale, and governments are funding housing for illegal immigrants with taxpayer money.. We have things such as trespassing, breaking and entering, and that's what illegal immigrants are doing. We need to stop with the whole idea of "we should not label them as violent criminals" when they literally committed a crime of coming here illegally, and that's no different than trespassing on private property or breaking and entering, all of which are crimes.
It is true that some illegal immigrants came legally and overstayed their welcome as their visa expired. However, that is no different than someone signing an apartment lease legally then falling behind on rent, aka "overstaying their welcome" because they couldn't pay, and getting evicted by the landlord. What is the difference between illegal immigration and these simple examples where you wouldn't like it if you were on the receiving end? The thing that's weird with illegal immigration is it's no different than small scale situations where you wouldn't like it if you were on the receiving end, but when it comes to large scale, you're ok receiving the short end of the stick. The US is considered a home to 300M people, and those 300M people have a right to protect their grand home just as much as they'd protect their personal residence. Just saying.
If you want to fix something, fix the immigration process so that people will actually come that way and not resort to these illegal mean and get rid of these illegal means.
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The idea of midsize 2 row SUVs, in general, makes no sense to me now. SUVs like this, the Murano, the Passport, the Atlas Cross Sport, and the Edge all start higher and can cost more than the 3 row counterparts while they aren’t much nicer inside. And you’d think they have some advantage having no third row, but they aren’t any bigger than their compact SUV siblings like the RAV4, escape, crv, and Tiguan. So what’s the point of the Crown Signia when you can get a RAV4 hybrid or plug-in for less, more room, better fuel economy, and lower price?
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Politicians have really fooled people into thinking tariffs are good when they aren’t, and only when it’s official and in full form will people understand it isn’t great.
Even if the whole goal is to get companies to bring manufacturing back to America, it isn’t instant. It took decades to offshore manufacturing, set up factories, get production to scale, train workers, set up machinery. It’d also take decades to undo that whole supply chain so what happens in those decades companies try to reverse everything? A lot of chaos breaks loose
There are things that just aren’t meant to be, and trying to force one of the richest countries in the world with huge income inequality to produce everything, risk ruining trade relationships and ruining our sales overseas as well, isn’t a good start. It’s also just driving corporate greed from CEOs too. If you want to fix something, fix human and corporate greed.
We think phones are expensive? They’re gonna get even more pricey. Same with cars, same with clothing, etc.
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@HondaHatchek Nobody bought them because they were absolutely horrible cars for the most part (no offense) except the Honda fit. Those cars you named were classified as subcompact cars and they came across to people as poorly built penalty boxes that torture your body more so than being cheap, reliable transportation. Because of that, people felt they might as well get a used substantial car a class above, like a 3 year used Corolla instead of a Yaris or a 3 year used civic instead of a fit. To that end, automakers bought them back as suv imitating hatchbacks with higher prices like the trax and soul which are actually nice and sell well.
However, I’m talking about automakers making even more base versions of their cars with perhaps older infotainment systems, older software, no screens in the center, or perhaps a 5-6 inch screen at most. That way a crv can be back to starting at 25k and not 30k if it’s using old software or having less tech on the base trim, and those savings hopefully go back into the purchase price. Knowing corporate greed though, who knows what’ll happen?
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@terencehawkes3933 There’s probably a lot of issues. Camry and accord and rav4 and crv, for example, have been the best selling cars/suvs in America for over 20+ years and people just aren’t ready to change out of something they know and love for something smaller, even if it’s more affordable for them. Maybe the Corolla and civic and hrvs just aren’t that much cheaper than the base accord and camry and crvso folks think they might as well go for the bigger sedan/suv if it’s barely any more money. Third, most folks know that the cheapest cars are classified as subcompact or subcompact based cars, and those have a long reputation for being unrefined, horrible to drive, uncomfortable, and just poorly built. The only nice cheap subcompact car was a Honda Fit, and Honda discontinued that sadly. People think they might as well go for a 3-5 year old used car instead of those cheap cars with that reputation, even if newer cheap cars are actually better now. I feel people not ready to change out of the expensive cars is past behavior, reputation, and used car competition.
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@calebniederhofer6529 the civic hybrid that starts at 28,750 isn’t an EX-L or Touring version though. It’s a sport model that has moonroof, heated front seats, dual-zone climate control. Still cloth seats and the 7 inch touchscreen. Meanwhile, the Camry hybrid that starts lower price is an LE that also has dual-zone climate control, also LED headlights, full Toyota safety sense, but you can get rear air vents, a bigger center screen, and a full digital gauge cluster. So you really aren’t missing anything (even if you miss some, you get stuff to compensate that civic doesn’t have) while getting a bigger car for less. Add the convenience package which only puts you above the civic by about $500, you get power driver seats which the civic sport hybrid doesn’t have and auto dimming mirrors which civic also doesn’t have. Literally, you get a bigger car with more stuff for basically the same price, trims aside. The only thing the civic has is the sporty driving and being more fun, but it also isn’t as daring and sharp as the previous generation. I like Civics, but the pricing for the hybrid isn’t something I’m a fan of.
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Here’s what I’d get while not copying Doug:
1. Ford GT, I’d get a first gen or early second generation Boxster for about 15k. Beautiful, fun, special, and can enjoy it daily.
2. Countach, I’d get an early lotus esprit which have gone for around 30k on C&B and are beautiful, fun to drive, wild looking, and also a classic
3. Carrera GT, I’d go a little modern and get an AMG GT around 70k. That’s a beautiful car that’s super balanced, fun to drive, insanely powerful, and somewhat understated too.
4. G cabriolet, I’d get an older FJ Cruiser. Insanely capable off road, looks like a 2 door even if it isn’t, Great styling, reliable too.
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Homes are piling up, and yet people continue to ask 100% more than should be. We'll say things like "correction", but average house prices and listing prices aren't dropping to, say, 300k, which is where it really should be if you assume 3-5% appreciation per year as recommended. Issue is there's still some of those aspirational/irrational buyers willing to pay that insane money and sellers price for those people. I've seen houses in Phoenix that people purchased for 400k-500k in 2020, and are asking 1M as if their house doubled in 4 years. And some are asking crazy prices for houses purchased even just 2 years ago. I'll believe a "correction" when the average home price drops to 400k, listing prices for actual, real, single family starter houses are 200-300k to start and not 450-500k, and people aren't asking double what they paid even just 4 years ago. Real estate market is just horrendous. A starter house in 2020 was 170k, so it really should be around 200k with 3-5% appreciation, and people are asking 400-500k for them. When starter homes are back to 200-250k, let me know.
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The economy isn’t doing great. The issue with the indicators relied upon by the media is that they’re so broad and fail to give you a full picture. They say job growth and creation is strong. How many of those jobs created are actual full-time jobs that require college degrees and can be accessed by a new graduate from college? How many of those jobs are just part time jobs with multiple going to the same person to make ends meet? How many of those jobs are created in certain fields like finance, economics engineering, and how’s that job growth? How many of those jobs created were actual full-time roles with benefits and not just contract roles? And lastly, how many of those jobs created are going to US citizens/green card holders and not just temporary visa holders to save a few bucks and thus, robbing the American people of potential opportunities? It makes no sense how we talk about “strong job growth and creation” and yet our labor force participation rate has not been good, hovering around only 60%.
Not only that, but when was the last time someone with an average salary could actually afford a new decent car following the financial rules that finance guys preach like 20/10/4? The older starter cars an average American could buy like an accord and Camry and Corolla have been priced out for most folks. Home prices have also been going up and it’s nearly impossible to buy a starter house on an average salary following old-school financial rules. I think the main issue the media never talks about is that the overall purchasing power of Americans has gone down over the years, and that’s why Americans feel everything is expensive and unaffordable.
Even if some things go down here and there, that really isn’t enough to offset the overall lack of purchasing power Americans have. House prices have to go back down to sub-200 for a starter single family, average car prices have to go back down to mid-30k, and the average grocery bill needs to go down for Americans to feel somewhat comfortable. Either that, or salaried jobs need to advertise a minimum 85k salary and minimum wage needs to go way up to 25-30 an hour with no huge unemployment layoff, even if executives need to take a pay cut as if the millions they take in isn’t enough. The data does back up that central premise that purchasing power has gone down for an average American, and media never talks about it because they know it goes against their narrative.
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The issue is that companies don’t want to invest in their employees and expect employees to know everything from day 1 and have 3 years of experience for “entry level jobs”. They also expect employees to just be slaves who do work and go home. Employers don’t understand the idea of employee morale, treating employees well, producing quality, taking care of your employees, treating them the way you want to be treated, etc. If executives need that 50% raise because they need to maintain their affordability of a 100k Lucid Air and 2M house, then ordinary employees also expect a same raise to be able to afford a good apartment/starter house or Camry/accord that used to be a starter car that’s now out of reach for many folks.
And not only do employers expect “entry level employees” to have 3 years experience, they expect those guys to be paid like new college grads were 10 years ago, with no adjustment in salaries for inflation. 50k might have been fine 10 years ago, but the new 50k should be 75k and companies don’t oblige to that. They’ll give 50% raises to their CEO and do stock buybacks but can’t even give fair raises to new employees. New kids don’t want to work for someone else because they’re just treated like slaves expected to do shit work for money that isn’t keeping pace with inflation. And meanwhile, they’re still worried about making ends meet daily. That’s the issue.
They’ll talk about “great resignation” and it not being worth training employees. Guess what? Maybe if you invested in employees, treated them the way the executives want to be treated so when we hear news of inflation reaching 9% and you increase the employees’ salaries 9% minimum to keep pace, and build a good culture, they wouldn’t be wanting to leave you.
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@ maybe the pilot handles ok but even then, Hondas are just so bland, generic, and uninspiring now. Look at the accord. They got rid of the coupe and the V6/turbo-4 and sure they might not have sold in huge numbers, but they kinda helped paint the accord’s image as the fun midsize sedan and now, it’s no different than a Camry outside being more expensive than a Camry. Also, Camry and accord sales used to be neck and neck for so long and now, the Camry had distanced itself from the accord even the civic, another top selling sedan.
Not to mention underequipped. The new pilot doesn’t even have the big 12 inch center screen the accord gets and the new traverse gets a 17-18 inch center screen. Honda cars have the worst tech nowadays likely and skimp on features that every conpetitor offers and I’d be ok if it went back into the purchase price and the cost was lower, but Hondas cost more than competitors.
I hate to say it, but the last generation accord and civic were probably the last cool mainstream Hondas before they just watered down their products.
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@ they really aren’t that sporty anymore, and a lot of the Hondas reviewed by journalists tend to be the top trim or high performance variants like a type R that most people don’t buy or have fancy stuff not on the base models. Past Hondas, you bought any Honda, even a base accord lx, and it was a fun car to drive compared to its competitors. That really hasn’t been the case now with Hondas becoming bland, uninspired, and generic on the outside and inside. Combine that with their horrible pricing strategy, especially on the accord, and there’s a reason accord sales have slowly dropped while its arch rival, the Camry, still moves 300k+ units even when that also dropped its V6 engine.
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@sizzlacalunji Guess we can agree on many things. We ended up getting a Camry and we looked at civic, accord, Elantra, and sonata. Ultimately, the Camry won us over for the ride comfort, bulletproof reliability, and availability of that hybrid system everywhere as it is standard, so allowed us to get only what we needed and not be forced high up just for the hybrid. Meanwhile, the availability of Honda’s hybrid system was a big letdown.
I agree with screen size, I could care less about it and same with digital gauge clusters. But at the same time if I have 30-35k to spend, which is a lot of money, I’m gonna want the most stuff I can get. And there are some instances where Honda doesn’t offer features on any trim of a model that every or almost all competitive offering has available.
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@ Hondas are more expensive than Toyotas now, actually. You can pick up a base Camry LE or LE with convenience for basically the same price as a sport civic hybrid, the lowest trim level for the hybrid, and that Camry has more stuff while being a class above size-wise. Then you have the Corolla cross topping out at a similar price to the hrv and offering more stuff that the hrv doesn’t offer on any trim like rear vents, rear armrest, power tailgate, and lumbar support. Not to mention if Honda ever offered the hrv as a hybrid, they’d probably start it as a sport and for a higher price than Corolla cross. If anything, a civic MSRP makes the Camry MSRP look like the best value proposition in the auto industry, for example. Just a few examples of Hondas being more than Toyota, while hardly differentiating themself from Toyota outside the civic.
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@ And have you seen the price of a civic hybrid? The sport sedan, the base version, starts at 28,750. Meanwhile, the Camry hybrid starts at 28,400 and comes with wireless CarPlay and rear vents, the latter which is not offered on any civic trim. And if you get the convenience package which only adds 1,000, you get auto dimming mirrors (not on civic sport) and power seats with lumbar support (not on any civic). So essentially, a base Camry gives you more stuff, some of which isn’t on any civic, for nearly a similar price. And then the top trim hybrid hatchback gets super close to an XLE Camry in price, and same story of Camry having more stuff while being bigger. The SE Camry is the sweet spot having more stuff than any civic while being mid price between sport civic sedan and hatchback touring civic.
That’s an example of Honda charging more than competitors, and being underequipped compared to them. My family ended up going Camry XLE and OTD, we paid slightly less compared to a top trim civic hatchback. So yes I’ve driven a civic. It’s a fun car, but underequipped for the price. It gets into midsize/full size sedan pricing territory when it’s a compact sedan
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@ I got my Camry below msrp, so I can. We have a 2015 accord coupe and I can tell you, the new accord is just super boring and generic compared to older accords. Also, when we got the Camry, we looked at the civic but the Camry, a midsize/full size sedan, was actually cheaper than the civic, a compact sedan. Furthermore, even a base Camry had items that the civic lacked on a top trim. The civic and hrv lack features that every/many competitor has or offers.
The one thing I like about Toyota, Kia, and Hyundai, is that they don’t force you into top trims if you just want a basic hybrid. Meanwhile if you want an accord hybrid, you’re forced into a sport trim which is $5,000 more. I can get a basic camry LE right under 30k if I wanted or a base sportage lx hybrid, but Honda doesn’t offer a base accord LX hybrid, civic lx hybrid, or CRV LX hybrid.
Honda charges premium prices but doesn’t give you premium features that other competitors offer. They also don’t make their hybrids easily available across even basic trims like other automakers do. Also, new Hondas aren’t built with the same quality and craftsmanship as prior generation Hondas.
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@zarbon700 to be fair, the Chevy Trax was a top 20 best-selling car in America in 2024 having sold nearly 200k units. Many of the cars in the U.S. that have the shortest market day supply tend to be small, affordable cars like the Corolla, Corolla cross, and hrv. Average car price might be 48k, but there is still a large market for folks that want cheap and affordable transportation. It’s just many cheap cars in the last like the Yaris and spark were penalty boxes but if you can strike the right balance of cheap and cheerful, it can go far. A car like the fit did but Honda gave up on it. If Honda brought back the fit with extra clearance, retained the same magic seats, and started it at 20k, for example, would sell like hotcakes.
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@Игорь-р8у6б There’s so many shoe brands. There are Adidas, Under Armour, Skechers, New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, Puma and ASICS just to start, On, among others Many of them are not only more comfortable, but they also offer that comfort without making you spend $120+ like you have to for Nike.
Furthermore, they don’t need to rely on endorsements and every top tier athlete supporting them the way Nike does because those other products are actually comfortable, better, and sell themselves. If Nike didn’t have the backing of every top tier athlete on the planet, their revenue and sales would be perhaps half or even less than half of what it is now.
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I feel the issue with cars nowadays is automakers feel the need to innovate things for the sake of innovating and thus, they create potential new problems. Also, adding more features means more parts to break. For those that bash touchscreens, there's good and bad to it. The good is that it simplifies everything in one area. Also, if we didn't have touchscrens, imagine how many buttons your center console would have and how distracting that could be. A great example is the early 2nd generation Porsche Cayenne, 2007-2013 Acura MDX or any Acura from that time. Touchscreens are fine as long as they aren't 20+ inches, and adding stuff like passenger screens that aren't needed. Overall, new cars are just way more advanced, have more things that can break, and are sacrificing overall build quality and materials for tech that isn't required. That's the issue.
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@jnmc-vx4fw if you’re worried about reliability, then don’t buy a luxury car. Lexus and Acura are just gussied up Toyotas and Hondas with the same platforms, same engines, and very little differentiation. I own a Camry, and I don’t want to be reminded of my Camry when I spend double the money. I want my luxury car to feel special, drive beautifully, be fast, and also have more tech and features not on the mainstream, especially since mainstream cars are nice and have all the bells and whistles.
Luxury comes with a price, and the price is crazy tech, expensive maintenance, and repairs as a result of that tech. Don’t get a luxury car if you’re that price inelastic. Most people who have 70k to spend likely don’t care because they know what they’re getting into and can afford it.
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These comments are really funny. Mass deportation might fix the issue immediately and shrink the number now. But it won’t stop future people from trying to come here illegally, and that’s a problem too. And that’s what has to be solved too. Getting rid of benefits provided to illegals would discourage them, fixing the messed up immigration system and shortening the time it takes also helps. A lot of illegal immigrants coming here come from war torn countries or economic disasters facing hyperinflation, famine, and gang violence. They don’t have 7-10 years to wait if their money could be worthless in a matter of months or could be caught in gang violence.
Also, for the folks saying “stay and fight for change in your country and fight for freedoms to make it better”, try that in North Korea, Venezuela, or Haiti and see where that gets you, if you can even make it to a year and wait.
In short, mass deportation is a short term solution, but not a long-term fix when people are still gonna try if the process and system for legal immigration isn’t fixed.
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