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@Isleofskye Your views seem to align quite conveniently with unpleasant stereotypes, funnily enough. You seem think Jews and Chinese average 2 children. I happen to live in an Orthodox Jewish area in the north west of England, so let me share my detailed observations:
I have found them to be a very isolated community where they don’t seem to interact with outsiders (including other kinds of Jews apparently). I have never seen them participating in wider society (working, studying, socializing) beyond their own community where they seem to spend all their time. At a glance, they seem to have about 4/5 children per couple, who are all close in age. There are lots of really young kids there, I often stop my car to let them cross the road unaccompanied, these are kids as young as 3/4 or even younger. I have never seen the like of this before anywhere in the UK and I have lived all over the UK and abroad for reference. And you don’t see many families with English as their first language by choice it seems (note, this community has been present in the UK for up to two centuries). It feels like a separate little country with its own religious-only schools, businesses and institutions. I can only imagine this would be amplified in their larger communities in Golders Green. NOTE, these are only my personal, daily observations as a resident in this place: I don’t necessarily have a problem with this community. But I do wonder why other communities seem to be demonized for way less than this and for nowhere near as long. Maybe you can tell me why you are willing to tolerate one group over another where the evidence suggests you should do the opposite?
And what’s wrong with not liking dogs? Not every culture loves dogs more than their own parents as some Brits do. Is Cano-phillia now the international standard for civilization? The Koreans eat dogs (as do Japanese who also eat horses openly) yet even you will admit to their advancement. How do you explain that?
So no, I don’t really buy in to your opinions, as they seem spurious and retrofitted to support certain views. And they seem to based on the premise of “the darker the skin, the greater the sin.” It’s not the 1970s anymore. At least not outside of your own mind. My dad is your exact age and to think I’m having this chat with someone who is my dad’s age makes me feel ashamed on your behalf.
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@juliusseizure3039 as far as the Quran goes, it mentions the Jews in the context of being a people in exile. So I’m not sure how you reached that convenient conclusion.
Funny how you missed out settlers coming in and stealing land-how they are now being armed and sent to kill Palestinians WITH the IDF. And you talk about ‘honour’. See here’s the thing, Israel is only able to do what it has been due to western support. It certainly hasn’t been doing because of any moral or courageous superiority. Your current hesitation in fighting Hamas hand to hand proves it.
In fact, there is one argument that holds that had Jews not been persecuted in Germany in WW2 (yes the same Germany that’s an ‘ally’ now), there’s a possibility, however slim, that Israel may not have existed at all. Such has been the precarious and unlikely nature of the origin of this so-called state that answers to no one.
So save the lies. They are not needed. You get away with it because you can, we all know that. But remember, power shifts, and there will come a time when your allies aren’t the powers they once were. On that day, you’ll need more than your transparent lies to sustain you. Even now, your mask is slipping. You are showing the world more than you want to. Netenyahu is hated by his own people. Win or lose, you are now a rogue state who holds the UN in contempt like how Gaddafi used to do and all in the full view of the world.
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@garethholman1050 colonisation does require force, by definition. Look it up. When the first English people set up ‘colonies’, there was no one there (or so they thought). So at the point the phrase was coined, it was quite different to how we see it now. Also colonisation requires a STATE/government behind it with the INTENTION of making it part of ANOTHER country/state. None of these criteria are satisfied here. The Brits abroad do not live in colonies for these exact reasons. They’re hypocrites for doing it, yes, but not colonizers nor do they live in colonies. Let go of this word now, it’s not doing you any good.
So I’m in the same, totally correct place I have always been. I’ll say it again, what you mean is immigration.
As to your race, I’ve yet to meet one non-white person who uses a Crusader knight or the like (why them? They were annihilated by Salahuddin’s forces, odd choice). It was an educated guess but a really solid one. You commentary has since confirmed this for me.
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@אורז-צ5ט I suggest you first come out of the tanks and actually fight if you are so courageous. I also suggest you stop killing your own people in cold blood, that’s always a good start.
This outcome of this invasion seems to based on two things: 1. Hamas’s resolve, which we have seen to be strong so far. 2. America’s support for you which sooner or later will wane, after all America has its own interests too. It’s only because of America that other nations aren’t intervening right now, but how long will they keep the wolves from your door?
Israel MUST achieve a fast victory, but all Hamas seem to need to do is hold out. They seem to have nothing to lose because you have already overplayed your hand in an uncontrolled rage-filled response, taking ages to make any decision and always making the wrong one. Military blunder after military blunder. And there still seems to be no plan for getting your own people back.
How quickly you forget that the very people you regard as friends are the ones who persecuted you for centuries and are the reason you had to flee time and again. And it seems your survival is based on the support of these same people. I would never want to be in such a tricky spot.
There is no two state solution possible where Israel will accept Palestine’s right to defend itself (army, navy, economy etc). So when you say two state solution, what you mean is surrender to occupation, we know that will never happen, especially now when you have alienated them even further. The alternative is genocide which we see now. So it’s essentially a choice between subjugation and death, and like any proud nation (not withstanding your Tank Dwellers), the Palestinians prefer death to subjugation.
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@ShaktaKash so let me get this straight: You, ‘shakta’, a paid hasbara troll working for a despotic pariah state, know more about law, than the chief prosecutor of the highest court in the world? And the main thrust of your so called legal argument is that Isreal can literally do anything to Hamas?
Well, Saul Goodman, your first mistake is thinking it’s Hamas that Israel are killing. They are not. They are actually losing to Hamas, and Hezbollah and the Houthis and in the court of public opinion, the UN and now the ICC. They are actually killing civilians, near enough 100,000 killed or injured. This is why they are guilty of genocide and why they will face justice and also why they will collapse. This whole ugly episode exposed how weak Isreal is, to go from western foster child to pariah and nearing collapse in 9 months. Pathetic.
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@ringtail1410 I’m simply asking what those rights to culture actually look like? How are those rights enacted if not legally? Is it simply bragging rights? I find it odd that you argue so hard for something you cannot clearly explain. Even your examples are circular and repetitive.
Lammy said he was English because he was born in England. You think being English is about ethnicity. English is an umbrella term for a number of closely- related ethnicities, but scientifically speaking, there is no single English race. If the England football and cricket teams accept non-white players, a precedent is set as how can you represent England and not be English? Hence why Lammy was comfortable using it presumably. So it’s essentially a matter of semantics.
I don’t agree with Lammy by the way, but I also cannot say he is categorically wrong under all the current definitions of that word. You see, what you are advocating is keeping sections of society separate on the basis of race, a philosophy which bears similarity to pre-civil rights US or apartheid South Africa.
What’s ironic is that on the one hand you passionately claim that indigenous people have exclusive rights (Australia, US, etc). However wherever English people have settled, they have systematically and prolifically deprived the indigenous people of those very same rights in those very countries you keep citing. How can you account for that?
And I’m genuinely asking in order to understand, I’m not being disingenuous believe it or not.
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@ringtail1410 I know what English culture looks like, what I don’t know, and clearly you don’t either, is what the ‘right to that culture’ looks like.
I said no such thing about English culture not being unique to Britain. That’s ridiculous. It’s a classic right wing tactic you feel you have to use and it’s not going to work on me.
So how is it that people of English heritage born in Australia, Canada, NZ etc are not considered anything but people from those places. Why is it one rule for them, another for the rest? Does being of English origin give Carte blanche to the world?
I think we both know you’re the only misty-eyed imperialist here. Anglo-Celt is an ethnicity, yes, English is not. It’s a much broader term and therefore Lammy may see it from one dimension, and I from another but we can both be right. So there is no contraction to answer for here.
So what’s your idea of integration? Do you think it’s possible in this country under any circumstances? And if not, do you advocate the deportation of people? Or in lieu of that, their demotion to second class citizen status as non- indigenous Brits?
You think I’m debating in bad faith when I’m actually to understand the mindset of the ‘majority’ view.
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