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Comments by "nrb1989" (@nrb1989) on "Black Christians vs Black Atheists | Middle Ground" video.
@TK-cg4ks it's also an objective truth that Christianity in Africa pre-dates Europeans on the continent and is actually older than many African traditional belief systems, but atheists with a bias tend to overlook that truth...
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@thetrib1 but also Christians in only one side reinforced it and didn't want it to end.
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I'm a Christian and I find they the biggest loss in all of this is this thought that Christianity is still "the white man's religion." I live in DC and you could never say that to any of my East African friends that know their history. They will quickly tell you that their faith pre-dates European colonization and that Christianity in older than many African belief systems themselves. So the notion that a black person in 2024 isn't "prioritizing their blackness" by being Christian doesn't even make sense in majority black countries like that of Africa.
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Totally agree. It seems she still chooses to define her atheism through her relationship to Christianity. She could just as easily wear the symbolism of the African traditionalist belief system she believes in, but here she is defining herself with the inversion of Christian symbolism.
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I wouldn't go as far as calling him a racist. But I do think that he was incredibly condescending. People will not listen to your ideas with that kind of attitude. But he's young....he's got a lot of time to let his frustrations lead him to that same conclusion lol.
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@rebeccamakuta6108 also they don't realize they are STILL defining their atheism strictly by the opposite of Christianity (hence the inverted cross). The atheism itself still doesn't free them.
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I find this to be an odd request only because it's like asking Christians today to sanitize an entire language that millions of people speak (many of whom aren't American or Christian, and would probably take offense to that). I don't think a lot of people understand how deep it goes. I'm sure it would be difficult for non-Christians to also stop saying "bless you" when someone sneezes. Even phrases like "the writing is on the wall," is all biblical. It's impossible to police Christianity in English anymore than we can Islam in Arabic in 2024.
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@Lunearien but they say these things in platitudes and make broad statements not really having any idea what the landscape of black churches looks like today. Sure there will always be work to be done. But I grew up in a church like the one the older guy was describing that gave home buying assistance and etc. And that was all great...but we had the same problems that ALL organized groups have when it comes to running an organization. Literally there are who studies on organizational theory and black America expects the church to be better at it than Wall Street. I think people really need to knock "the Church" off the pedestal. "The Church" is your aunties and cousins lol. Maybe if they saw that way, they would lower their expectations a bit because I expect my church to be charitable, but I truly don't expect my church to act like or function like govt. In fact, we tried that at several points in history, and it doesn't go over well when the church is the social welfare arm. I give to my church to keep the lights on, a few staff people paid, and to choose 1-2 causes we can impact based on our members reach, expertise, and what's going on in our city. I do not want my church to be offering govt services because I give more in tax than I do in tithing each year, frankly.
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@rei1378 the point is that Tyler is in no position to say that a black person anywhere isn't prioritizing their blackness because they are Christian (or any other faith). The world encompasses and is bigger than the United States alone. So some of the phraseology is also wild because what does "prioritizing blackness" mean in a country that is in fact majority black? If we were talking about black people being Buddhist or any other faith other Christianity, the pro-black ppl on the panel would be 100% correct. But because Christianity in Africa pre-dates European colonization, I don't see how any of these claims about "the white man's religion" make any sense.
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You can be sure of where you're going and also be afraid or have fear. Many folks have fear because not everyone in their family believes the same and therefore may not join them on the other side. As Christians, we can separate our firm belief in something while still experiencing a range of emotions from joy to fear.
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58:53 she doesn't get it. In a country like Liberia, we have a lot of traditionalists. I could convert today if I wanted to and it wouldn't be that big of a deal bc the practices are a lot more prevalent vs in the U.S. I find this often that black Americans make this kinds of sweeping comments having no idea what the actual day to day context is.
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48:47 ok his anger makes sense now because his parents set him up going to church 2-3 times a week 😂
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