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@spunkinater
"Peterson is correct in stating that the LGBTQ community is not a community. That would be like me saying that all latinos are a community. If you've ever met a Columbian and a Puerto Rican.....most of the times they hate each other.....and those are the words of Columbians and Puerto Ricans, not my own.
They do not consider themselves the same. Very different cultures. "
com·mu·ni·ty
/kəˈmyo͞onədē/
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noun
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a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
"the scientific community"
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a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals.
"the sense of community that organized religion can provide"
Similar words would include: group, section, body, company, set, circle, clique, coterie, ring, band, faction, gang, bunch, or any other such word that denotes a group that shares commonalities.
You. Are. Categorically. Wrong.
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@whyamimrpink78 "1. My stance on marriage is that government should be out of it"
Okay.
"2. Nothing in the Constitution mentions marriage, thus it becomes a state issue"
Immediate contradiction, you apparently support State government involvement.
"3. I support the Constitution above all, so if a state wants to get involved in marriage I would disagree with that decision, but I would 100% support their rights to do so"
So you aren't actually against governmental interference in marriage on the Fed or State level at all as long as it's legal to do.
Your clarification was pointless, in practice you're on the side of bigots.
"Ok, to examples on my stance, first, abortion
1. My stance is rare, safe and legal
2. Nothing in the Constitution mentions abortion, thus it becomes a state issue
3. If a state decides to ban abortions I would disagree, but I would 100% support their rights to do so"
So you support abortion, unless the local government doesn't, in which you support the rights of local government.
Again, what was the point of you having a position if you just nod like a chimp when it's "their right to do?"
"Ok, now free speech
1. I dislike racist speech
2. Free speech is protected by the Constitution via the 1st amendment
3. If someone makes a racist comment I would disagree with it, but I would 100% support their rights to make such comments"
Holy shit, this is the first non-contradiction you've stated so far.... And it's in defense of racist speech.
"1. On state rights: we do not want an overpowering, centralized force dictating these complex issue."
Yes you do, you just call it the State government.
So just to recap: You will support and stand by the "state's right" to criminalize women's reproductive rights, you stand by the State's right to interfere in marriage as long as it's not the Fed, and your only principled stance that you actually Commit to is "defense of racist speech" uas nder the 1st Amendment.
Wow what worth is your position at all? "I'm against all these obviously bad things, but I will suck the State dick and champion their violations of individual liberties."
So in theory you're a libertarian, in Practice you submit to the State like a dog.
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@ma_abbott "You believe that a certain small group of individuals should have some financial relief ‘just because’...."
Actually we never got past you failing to justify your own beliefs, so No actually, you Don't "know" I believe that at all.
You're correct, I do "just because", but you have exactly zero reason to have assumed that.
"paid for by a much larger amount of others that will not benefit from said action."
False. You literally directly benefit from educated qualified professionals in fields of science. I shouldn't have to explain to you that having educated professionals in cyber, IT, Medicine, and the sciences in general is a good thing that advantages the nation supporting it.
Unless you got a compelling case to make for an aggressively uneducated society with next to no collegiate expertise.
But thanks for airing out that your political motivations are as basic as "That which directly benefits Me."
"Actually, it will be generational taxpayers to address this repayment, some whom are not even born as of yet."
Wow, it's almost like taxes always worked that way. None of those kids ever volunteered their tax dollars to the military or the police, and yet that's not a biggie.
What? You're telling me "we'll keep paying taxes" in the future? Just like all of living memory? Say it ain't so! My child's gonna likely be paying to benefit others the same way I paid to benefit them? Truly a horrendous situation has befallen u-
-Oh wait, that's how it fucking works you doorknob. Why do you people never consider this fact unless it's paying to Help someone else?
"I do not see the fairness, equality nor equity in this partial debt relief."
Then you need your eyes checked because the only people you're defending here are the ultra-rich.
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@nunpho Context, different ecosystem on Youtube at the time. Before 2016, all this shit hadn't escalated quite as bad as today yet. MAGA wasn't a thing yet, this was back when the Steve Shives types were the "SJW's" on Youtube by and large among content creators with any clout. Basically less interested in social justice and more interested in virtue signals.
Like calling them SJW's is kind of doing a disservice to actual social justice, these guys were basically just Karen's and concern-trolls cry-bullying people, not exactly "leading the charge and making a difference."
Anywho, in walks this offensively inoffensive "enlightened centrist" type in Boogie who tried to fence-ride the middle as per usual, only pissed off everyone for being a milquetoast lack of input to the discourse. And since the SJW's were the bigger content creators at the time than the chuds, most of the public flak was coming from SJW's.
Not because "Oh SJW's are so bad, blah blah", literally just how the numbers worked out at the time. There were more popular SJW content creators than popular chud content creators, so law of averages kind of just created that particular fallout.
Boogie isn't really an anti-SJW, that would kind of imply Boogie has a real stance or position on anything besides "fence-riding."
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@innocentnemesis3519 Honestly in fantasy the concept of servitor species isn't exactly new. D&D has plenty of them. But there's definitely a major distinction: In properties like D&D, the servitor races are INDEED, by and large, actively designed in that fashion. Like you could explain up and down a million different ways to, say, a modron in D&D that they're effectively slaves and "slavery is bad", but their active fundamental programming as a species wouldn't be even capable of parsing that as good or bad. Just "what they are." Or the Sidhe from Dresden Files who are active primal beings for whom the concept of free will akin to humanity is a disturbing and uncomfortable concept to them (Because the Sidhe actively view their existence as one that comes with built-in purpose, and actively feel pity for mortals in having no defined sense of purpose to their existences).
Rowling, meanwhile, through Dobby in particular, made it aggressively clear that House Elves are NOT the same as those other fictional species, actively DO have a sense of free choice, and are functionally indoctrinated as a race to be slaves, has Hermione actively recognize how wrong that is.... Then just does nothing with that and continues on as if the House Elves are "just like those other species."
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@2ndtonone1000 "At the end of the day it's just an opinion, doesn't mean you are right or I am right. "
Pretty sure the voters would disagree there seeing how they keep opposing this. You being on the losing side of this one isn't a debate. The law literally says this is fine you are categorically incorrect.
"An you mentioned you don't care about what might aunt thinks, I think the feeling is likewise. "
I don't think you do. I don't care about what your aunt thinks because your Aunt doesn't dictate for the American people what the American people want. Majority consensus does.
It's not that I "don't care because it's not me" I don't care because your aunt was outvoted. Why would I cater to her over the people who won the vote?
"Voting is not about your convenience, its not up to poll workers to bring you refreshments while standing in line."
No, but why would you Not make it more convenient if you can? What benefit are you getting out of voting being a pain in the ass only Tech-illiterate rednecks wou-
-...And I just figured out why Republicans love this so much. Your voters mostly use physical in-person voting while everyone Else uses mostly mail-in.
You guys would win way easier if you could just get rid of enough mail-ins. Methinks you don't actually care about democracy and just want to win.
"I worked two jobs and went to college, still made it to early voting, so its not impossible."
It's not impossible that shoving a spear up your ass and out your throat wouldn't actually kill you, but I don't see people testing that theory out much.
You're not better for doing things the least efficient way. You're just wasting time. It's the 21st century, stop being afraid of AOL.
"This wasn't an issue until the plandemic came about, now all of a sudden people on the left think it's their God given right to cast a ballot on the couch."
Right, they should only allow white landowning slavers vote like the Founders intended. /s
You're just whining about the newfangled technology now.
"No one cares about you being butt hurt because you want to be catered to."
Apparently they do, because mail-in voting is the law of the land.
What you meant to say was "No one cares what I think the right way to vote is." Because they don't. Because mail-in voting exists.
"The polls opened for early voting for people like you who are on a tight schedule."
And mail-in voting opened up for the same reason. And yet you're only against the one "the Libs" use most frequently.
Methinks you just don't want Libs to be voting at all.
"I am hearing alot of excuses, nothing really viable that would keep you from making it to the polls. "
Says the guy without a single reason why Mail-in is bad besides "I Don't wanna!"
Tough titties no one's making you. Vote in person if that gets you boned up, but stop being a whiny little snowflake because other voting methods exist.
"It's a non issue just like it was before the plandemic."
You're right. Voter fraud's been a non-issue since you people started whining bout it under Obama.
And yet you people still keep talking like it's the biggest crisis ever and we HAVE to remove all "at risk" forms of voting....Which are all conviently "Any method of voting Republicans typically lose at.
"Either I won or you cheated" huh?
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@2ndtonone1000 "This doesn’t infringe, but having people handing out snacks and talking politics and asking who they are voting for is an infringement and shouldn’t be allowed."
...How? Handing out snacks has exactly nothing at all to do with voting one way or the other, talking politics is perfectly legal courtesy of the Constitution, asking who your voting for, while rude, is again free speech.
I don't recall a "right to not be asked your opinion" existing. They have the right to ask, you have the right to not answer.
"I said I didn’t agree with it, so how is that whining?"
"I don't agree with it" all by itself sounds like a lot of "I don't wanna." Now I think you're a whiner because you're This bothered about being called one.
"I didn’t say “I don’t wanna”, that’s something you stated in response, that’s your opinion to what I am saying. An either way it won’t change that the method is being used, I just think there should be more safeguards placed around this method. "
Oh yeah you want this all banned because you Don't want to get rid of the thing your only objection to is "I don't like it."
No sir!
"I didn’t say 1,384 votes, I said 1,384 incidents of voter fraud, you were so eager to make a point that you misread the statement."
Ohhhh, so I just have to trust you that all those individual instances of voter fraud Actually mean "About a thousand times that number in cases"
That's convenient, your method of telling me how many cases of voter fraud occur mysteriously didn't Actually tell me. You just told me "It's greater than or equal to 1384."
How fucking useful. Do you type like a weasel on reflex or did you have to train to be this evasive with your language? Like do they hand out blackbelts in obfuscation?
But fair enough, just pony up the closet Actual numbers we have for voting. Not "incidents", Votes.
"You were to busy trying to convince yourself it was a non-issue, when clearly there are recorded instances of fraud that lead to convictions, but what about the ones that slip through the cracks?"
Then stop being a pussy and put up the Actual numbers so we can see what the real data is. Not "incidents", I want numbers.
"any kind of fraud even if its small should be scrutinized and investigated."
...You can't find any numbers that wouldn't look pathetically small, huh?
Oh well, this was a waste of time. Respond or don't as you like, unless there's a number in your next comment I got my answer out of you.
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Dude, your gen was the first to take the shit. Don't apologize for being lied to.
The only difference between your gen and ours is that your parents gen had the best economy in US history to lord over you (Provided to them by THEIR parents, not them) and use as a bludgeon to slap you back into compliance. Hard to argue with success, right, even when that success is sneakily cutting off all the ways for you to achieve the same success.
We... Didn't get that. We heard the same shit, but we didn't have a well-off Boomer just a generation away smacking us with their wealth and calling us lazy. We saw you guys, busting your ass through economic recessions, we watched you get laid off for shit you didn't even do wrong, watched you guys struggle and claw and suffer menial labor jobs unworthy of your credentials just to put food on the table for us kids.
We watched you guys, our parents, get fucked in front of us as children by this system and watched you guys struggling to keep it all together and soldier on through it anyway.
You have nothing to apologize for. You guys got abused first in this sick chain of abuses. At worst your gen are kind of victims of Stockholm syndrome.
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@elfullin "your framing is off. (1) Biden was not primaried, we can’t help that."
Primaries were cancelled in several states with Biden just unilaterally declared the winner.
"I blame only those who vote against their own interests, if you want to have Trump in office, vote for him, and if you’re against Biden, vote against him, but if your political values align more with the policies of Biden and you don’t vote for him because of his age, then you are to blame for bringing about a future which you yourself didn’t want."
Interesting that the people who forced Biden on us despite all protests are absolved of all responsibility for their actions.
"you can want him to step down all you want, this is something regular people can’t make happen, no matter how hard you push. Those who stick with Biden have the fact that he was voted for to be the nominee, other politicians didn’t want to primary him, and they’re sticking with the only option AT THE MOMENT, instead of trying to rip apart the party when we should be uniting against Trump."
Voted in? No he wasn't. We actively CANCELLED PRIMARIES so he Wouldn't have competition and just win by default.
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@LaughOutLiberty "1. Manifests aren't public record. And no one is track his private jet because it's so damn interesting to see a plane fly."
No one was talking about manifests you dolt. Nice attempt at a non sequitur though, totally doesn't make you seem like an evasive turd.
"2. I'll go ahead and believe your accusation that he "spied" on people. That doesn't negate his own right to privacy and lets everyone violate it because of that. 2 things can be true at the same time."
I didn't say he spied on anyone, I said he literally owns a company that has a pre-him track record of spying on people. I'm guessing lying isn't something you're against doing to make a point, seeing how you're implying shit I never stated just to avoid what I did say.
" That doesn't negate his own right to privacy and lets everyone violate it because of that."
Ah, so you're more concerned about Musk's right to privacy even if that Was my accusation. Nice to know you're a consistent sycophant.
"3. Twitter spent the entire pre-Elon era banning/shadowbanning decent, with requests straight from the top of governmental people."
Which I'm sure you can demonstrate as true. Citation needed.
"If you think Elon is doing the same thing here, you're being very disingenuous. But it's all "a private company!" until they start banning people you agree with, right?"
Once again making up my arguments instead of addressing anything I actually said. Doesn't even merit a response, you're clearly not even talking to me now.
"4. At the end of the day, it is his company and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it, just as Jack Dorsey or whoever was licking his boots and was in charge was doing."
Yep. The only defense of yours that's technically true. He can indeed legally do it.
"All of you libs/leftists talk about freedom of speech still having repercussions up until it's happening to you."
I never mentioned free speech at all, actually, but don't let me stop your screed at Strawman-Patch.
Care to try and respond to something I DID say for a change you lying sack of donkeyshit? Or proving a single claim of yours to be true? Any day now.
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@adlucem9845 " the goal post move. Now you're all about being independent."
How is that a goalpost move? And also yes, if you're still looking at the actual policy choices of your politicians and not seeing them actively cooperating bipartisanly, then I don't know what to tell you.
"Above the stupid red v blue paradigm."
You mean the one where all you idiots vote for Reps purely because they piss off "the Libs" and Democrats actively avoid policy entirely just to sick by "I'm not a Republican" as a selling point?
Golly gee, what a choice you have! Coke and Pepsi, what a difference as they both vote to steal from me.
" The leftist is always superior"
Not sure why you're still trying to force labels on me. But if this is the extent of your ability to reason, then yes, in this case I'm at least superior To You.
"....and white."
Pfff, says the guy bootlicking for Republicans n a video where MTG, a white Republican, is bitching and whining about discrimination against whites.
I guess you didn't get far enough into the fallacy list to figure out what "projection" means, because you're a natural!
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@temptationtv1726 Oh yeah, that's comparable.
Try it, right now, speak a sentence in which you're directly referring to someone in person in which their pronouns ever even Enter the sentence.
Here's the kicker: It has to be a sentence a human being would actually say. None of this "Hello, Your pronouns are X, Y, and Z, and I shall refer to them as such from here on."
No, an actual conversational sentence between two human being in which the pronouns of a person are used to refer to them.
I'll wait. Show me how much of a cross this actually is to bear for you, and I'll decide if it's even remotely comparable to the suffering of forcing a woman to carry their R*pe baby against their will.
Go on. Let's see how much of a moral suffering this is on you, having to learn a couple new words vs. Actively stripping bodily autonomy from another living sapient person?
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@crazy_jackal5216 "you are not thinking with a clear head. Once life starts, doesn't matter if it hasn't form yet, it should be protected."
Tell that to the burger you ate earlier this week. Guess that life didn't deserve protection. Or hey, tell that to the trillions of living sperm that Died so one could succeed. Guess that life didn't matter.
"Typically a few micrometres in length, bacteria were among the first life forms to appear on Earth..... if this is a life form, a child growing isn't?"
I've never in my life felt anything genociding trillions of bacteria every time I clean my kitchen counter. Bacteria is life, so what?
"People should work on themselves before planning, and not go all out there, because if a man sleeps with a woman, and doesn't see red flags until its to late, a man will suffer."
Oh look at me playing the world's smallest violin for the person who Isn't pregnant. Spare me your whining, the person carrying the fetus has the Actual struggle going on.
"I don't see a problem in telling people to relax for now."
You fuckers are trying to ban contraceptives and you're actively banning abortion.
Responsible people took precautions, You idiots want all those precautions eliminated and just "Don't Fuck Ever unless you want children"
Guess life is only sacred as long as it's Not the mother's.
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@2ndtonone1000 "You do know there is a difference between absentee ballots and mail in ballots right"
Considering both ballots are transferred via mail and counted in the same fashion the GOP is screaming to get rid of for voter fraud, no I don't see much of a difference.
" I didn't say I was against absentee ballots because that's mostly for military or government contract workers that are overseas, completely different than an able body individual that just don't want to stand in line at the polls, even though they are perfectly healthy to do so. "
...Why?
Okay that's it I gotta know: What is in any respect better about showing up?
I have Work. I have shifts and most of the US allows private industry to fire people for missing work for any reason. And those companies aren't obligated to give you the day off to vote.
Why would I sacrifice a paycheck as a poor person just to vote IN PERSON to satisfy some uppity prick when the mail is right fucking there? Your stance betrays a patent disinterest or disregard for the complications of people's lives at worst or a Massive fundamental misunderstanding of the tech you have available to you at best.
"An absentee ballot is generally used in every state to refer to a ballot filled out by a voter who cannot, for various reasons, physically make it to a voting location on Election Day.
A mail-in ballot is used more broadly to refer to ballots sent through the mail, including in all-mail voting states and some forms of absentee voting."
And how exactly are absentee ballots showing up? This distinction reeks of "Because I said so."
The absentee ballot and the mail-in ballot both function the exact same way and for the exact same reason: The person voting for whatever reason was incapable of showing up in person so voted remotely through "the mail."
Distinction without a difference. You changed the demographics and nothing else.
"An usually you have to request and absentee ballot, but you don't with mail in ballots. In California, they sent out mail in ballots to people that weren't registered to vote, or had not requested them."
So what?
Unless that vote lines up with an actual social belonging to a citizen then it's worthless.
The government has your ID, your entire work history, your life on record in this country with little left out, and we have multiple redundant forms of ID for a fucking reason. But with all that information you think they don't know a bullshit vote when they see it?
Funny how voter fraud only comes up as a problem whenever Republicans specifically lose. "Either I win or you cheated": The Party everybody.
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@2ndtonone1000 "Actually, early voting pretty much eliminated the need to do mail in voting unless you are physically disabled. You mean to tell me you are fully book throughout the entire seven day week?"
Tell me you don't live in poverty in America without saying it.
No 2nd, no I Don't have the free time because I work 2 fucking jobs just to pay the bills. My time off from One job is the other fucking job.
Also if the necessity has been removed, why are you so adamant this HAS to be removed?
What a coincidence you want to ban the main voting method used by Democrats. How many fraudulent votes are there even that you're basing this necessity on?
"I have worked some ridiculous shifts, 12 hours or more six days a week at times and still made it to early voting."
Awww 12 hours 6 and 1's? Look at you working hard a couple weeks in your life.
Get back to me when it's 7 and 0 with shift overlaps for months. I sleep and eat when I Can, I'm not wasting what little energy I have left just to once again satisfy some prick who still can't explain why I HAVE to frog-march my ass to vote the way He wants when a more convenient option is right there.
Why should I tolerate even More inconvenience in my existence for your ass' preferred voting style?
"You do know people can move to another state, and you are sending a ballot to someone at that address that doesn't even live there anymore. "
Wow let me introduce you to a novel new thing called "Forwarding the mail." If you don't have an address that mail can find you at, that's something you're actively making harder on yourself.
Why would you care if you don't get your ballot if you're This adamant to Not be getting it?
"An you said so what, well its always been that way, mailing out that many ballots cost money, and in liberal states you are paying for that extra cost."
This is the richest nation on the planet, no one cares if an American says "but that's too expensive." You idiots blow trillions annually on boondoggles and corporate bailouts for the rich and layoffs caused by those same rich people and financially support 70% of the world's dictators and provide Socialism to Israel on Our tax dime, but I'm supposed to believe paper is "too expensive" for you.
Sure. I'll believe that crap.
"An if you are a registered voter, you easily go online and make a request to have a mail in ballot sent out."
Sounds convenient. Wow the first actual thing you said about mail-ins that was correct and its praising it for the efficiency. XD
"My aunt who is physically disabled, who last year in a wheel chair still went in person to vote, this year she can't make it, but even she agreed that you should have to request the ballot to be sent out."
Who cares what your aunt thinks? She shares this country with 300 million other people and Most of them want mail-in voting.
You're outvoted on this one, accept it.
"It shouldn't automatically be sent out, because most times the voter registration is not checked to see if that person is even still living in that location."
Citation needed.
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@2ndtonone1000 "Again, its not about it being convenient for you, its about the right to vote, and some of those people handing out stuff have been known to try to push politics to the people they are giving water and snacks to. "
And this infringes on the right to vote in no way at all, so your point is moot. If anything this is Expanding the right to vote to greater avenues.
What are you complaining about here?
"Not really, just don't want some bozo exploiting mail in ballots by sending them to people that are no longer at the current address or dead. "
So a functionally nonexistent problem that doesn't meaningfully impact elections. Got it.
"I never once said they didn't exist, I just stated I didn't agree with the method, all the other things you are saying is just bloviating."
No, you said no one cares what I think the right way to vote it.
Seeing how my voting position is "The one that's the law", clearly it's actually Your position on voting no one cares about.
"Hardly think that's the case. early voting is actual in person voting but early, and mail in voting is sending out a ballot to an address in some cases a ballot has not been requested, and you have no confirmation that the person still lives there, or is still alive. That is the reason I stressed that a ballot should be requested, and not just sent out like they do in states like California. "
Until you show e numbers of how much this actually happens then I don't care. Unless it's actually enough to impact an election it's a waste of time that ONLY negatively affects the voting demographics that mostly vote against your side.
In short it's either a solution to a crime as relevant as jaywalking or it's a solution to a completely Different problem to your people: "People who don't vote Rep being allowed to vote at all."
"Glad you think someone that's giving an opinion on something is whining, but you are a riot to debate. No, like I said I am not for it, but it exists, and if its going to exist, I think more safeguards should be added to it. Has nothing to do with whining or the childish rhetoric you spewed in this last statement. "
When all you've got in response for Why it's bad is "I don't wanna" and "it's my opinion" then yes you are whining.
Suck it up snowflake, either present an Ironclad reason why this is dangerous or you are whining.
"No, there have been issues of voter fraud up to 1,384 to be blunt. There were convictions of up to 1191, so the system is working, but a lot slips through the cracks, so saying its a non issue when there has been reported proof of there being voter fraud is downright asinine."
Wow 1,384 votes! Golly gee a whole1384 cases, we gotta put a stop to this!
...Oh wait, the voting public numbers around 153 Million.
But hey, you proved me wrong. It's not a NON-issue.
...It's just 1/110549th of an issue at its most dangerous.
Pffff!!!!! XD This wouldn't flip a county election in fucking Idaho, much less a election that actually means something. Come back to me when you've got a whole 10th of a percentage of a problem then I might care.
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@salomaogomes7311 "oh for f*ck's sake, at least argue in good faith..."
You first cockhole.
"We're talking about LGBTQ+ people who want to perform marry cerimonies. You know, the whole point of the video, the Bill, and this discussion in the first place. THESE are the allies I'm mentioning. These people hate organized religion just as much as we do. "
...Fine, I'll pretend this discussion didn't jump goalposts at all. Okay, fine, I'm sorry for offending any and all LGBT+ people who hate organized religion yet still want to play pretend along with organized religion's bullshit.
I don't get it, it seems moronic to me, but whatever. I have no objections.
"And again, they, just like me and you, also want for cristianity to remain a seperate thing from politics, and for them to pay taxes. They dont want christian law. They just want to be able to be themselves and live their lives in the same way everyone else can. "
Not sure what this has to do with shithead churches saying "fuck that" but again fine. No objections.
"I'm not repeating this again. If you dont want to argue in good faith and keep running in circles, that's your issue..."
Fine by me, because whatever point you were making went absolutely fucking nowhere.
I agree, this conversation's a waste. Blame me if that makes you feel better, but you failed at conveying whatever you were trying to convey.
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@salomaogomes7311 "Geez, how mature...you could at least pretend you actualy paid attention and aren't arguing for the sake of arguing, you know? "
Hey, didn't you say you were done with this conversation?
"Then my second one is an explanation of why I care about such a thing when I'm not religous myself, and that's because if we allows this type of discrimination to happen, it legitimizes it, and makes it easier to justify further bigortry against other groups that don't conform. "
Bigots don't need a justification, but okay.
"Did you even bother seeing the video or reading the bill? The whole point is that it's a federal block on state legislatures being able to pass laws that legalize a churches' "right" to refuse to perform cerimonies for gay couples."
And you've been sitting here defending the rights of churches to do whatever. Including exactly that. But I guess as long as the State itself isn't doing what a bunch of fanatics want it's all good.... Oh wait.
"My point was clear as day. It's not my fault you kept making this about extremists and how much organized religon sucks(wich I actualy agree with), while never adresing the fact that actualy started the whole discussion."
Lol, man suck yourself off some more.
Also, silly question, maybe I'm just glitching out here, but where the hell are your comments on this thread?
Not implying you got rid of them, but I'm literally on the page right now and only ever see your most recent comment.
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@albertfralinger2711 "in most states you have to be at least 18 years old to get a tattoo. "
Without parental permission, it's earlier in most States with that permission. But that's just the parent accepting legal responsibility for a choice they're allowing a thinking human being to make for themselves.
"That’s because teenagers and children generally don’t make the best and most thought out decisions."
If you can trust a teenager with a car and a job and tax them like a grown ass adult and send them to Prison like an adult, then I fail to see why they aren't capable of making this choice like an adult.
Last I checked "Making good decisions" is not how we define adults in this country. If it was, next to no one in America would be considered an adult.
"Even if you’re 18, most well respected tattoo artists won’t give a face tattoo because they understand how that permanent decision can negatively affect someone’s life."
Purely because other aspects of our society will preemptively judge them negatively. Because we're a bunch of fucking prudes.
"I cannot understand the excessive push for such extreme medical treatments for children with so much risk of permanent damage."
Because you people pick and choose when convenient as to how old a "child" is. When it comes to tax dollars, driving, and criminal consequences, a teenager is an adult all the fucking way and treated like one. Hell, when a teenager gets knocked up, suddenly they're an adult to you people.
But when they want to make a fucking choice for themselves you don't like, suddenly they're children again and incapable of deciding for themselves. Pick One.
The choice doesn't impact You, the subject probably isn't interested in having kids At All (The side-effects of medical procedures are explained to patients, They Know!), and there's endless ways in which they can obtain a kid to raise courtesy of all the children and orphans we Don't raise in this country.
So... Why do you give a shit?
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@tyhammel3448 "I disagree with that stipulation. He’s guaranteed to lose 25% if he signs that contract with his history of being demonetized constantly"
75% of 50 million is still 37.5 million, so... Big deal?
"Also, it would limit what he could say on the big tech platforms."
Pretty sure getting demonetized/banned constantly does so more, but continue pretending like a billionaire dick-rider's set back by demonetization.
"Also, that 50 million is not all going into Crowders bank. He’s gotta use that for production and to pay the employees."
Pfff, so less than 1 million of the total gone for those costs and Crowder pockets the remaining 36 million. How expensive do you think "Sitting in a Youtube video" is, exactly? Spoiler alert: Not 50 million's worth at all.
" For four years, that’s not enough. Crowder is worth much more than that."
Wow, imagine how divorced from reality you have to be where 50 million dollars over 4 years isn't enough money to pay a small staff to support you bloviating in front of a camera.
Most people on YT with success can do it for under 100 grand a year, Crowder must SUCK at budgeting.
"Crowder is better of starting his own subscription based show independently. He’d make a killing with such a loyal fan base."
Hope so, cuz now he doesn't get a choice. Now everyone but loyal dickriders like yourself know he's utterly full of shit and a spoiled rich brat.
"I wish them both the best, I like DW and Crowder."
...Jesus fucking Christ you don't even have to try on the Right. Built-in audience of willing dipshits.
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@emersonwallace7226 "1. Doesn’t everyone have a vote?"
Sure. Not like it matters, the people never get to vote on anything but which asshole in a suit is gonna lie to us and not do anything for us.
But sure. You can vote for Coke or Pepsi.
"2. IT IS IN JEOPARDY, IT IS FRAGILE, but democracy is holding."
How?
"Moreover, I can’t support any group that held a practice coup, and is still beholden to someone who wants to be an absolute ruler (or whatever trump wants to be)… "
...Okay we're just jumping to Trump.
"3. Biden’s not an absolute ruler. Be fair again, he’s bound by the Senate."
Funny how the power of the President becomes "What can I do? I can't do shit" the moment a non-Trump is in charge. Why was Trump such a rampant threat to Democracy with the {Presidency yet Biden can't do anything?
" Now, I agree with you that Biden could do more"
Anything. Literally fucking anything.
"however, I don’t think it’s fair to lay everything at his feet"
I will. He promised a whole lot of shit and delivered on exactly none of it but the shit Trump was also in favor of.
I don't apologize for traitors.
"Until a better candidate comes along, I’ll have to go with the anti-trump movement."
So we're just gonna make it all about Trump for a third time and hope a platform void of any policy works.
....WTF are you even hoping to achieve here? You can't even claim Biden's admin is gonna oppose Republicans on any level, but somehow this vote will make a difference.
"I’ll have to go Blue…..just like you’ll have the opportunity to go whichever color, candidate you choose come November."
None.
I choose no color.
Your entire government can go to hell like it deserves.
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@honest_E "How does that make my comment irrelevant? Just because movies are not identical to content put out by media personalities does not mean that they do not influence people just as much."
Because Hollywood doesn't support leftist media outlets, which is the topic of the conversation. Rightwing media is propped up by corporate interests and billionaires, and your retort is "But Hollywood Exists."
If you want Money in media, you suck corporate neoliberal and/or rightwing dick. Hollywood is only "Left" socially, because Hollywood goes wherever the public (i.e. their Moneypit) goes. Most of the public are Left-ish, therefore so is Hollywood.
"I mean actually good movies. Movies that will hold their value for years. Movies like 12 Angry Men, The Godfather (1&2), The Lord of the Rings (Trilogy), Remember the Titans, The Last of the Mohicans, The Dark Knight, Saving Private Ryan, etc."
You mean movies that weren't considered such until Years Later? That's kind of how timelessness is decided, by whether or not people are still talking about it years down the line.
Seems wildly unfair to claim such when most of the movies you're complaining about are still infants in the media. On the same topic consider all the movies from those time periods you're NOT giving any such credence to. Nostalgia goggles are called that for a reason, you're not Remembering the ten tons of shit movies every single one of those gold nuggets rests atop.
No one remembers the dogshit through the rose-tinted lens.
"It depends on how you define racism, bigotry, and being a dirtbag. And I have a guess that you and I do not define those words the same"
Pretty sure I'm using the official definitions that exist in the dictionary, but you're free to disagree with Webster.
"The platforms are predominantly owned by the left."
No, they're owned by corporate interests. If your motives can be guessed and your positions guessed entirely on the grounds of "What makes the most profit?", then you're not a Leftist. You're just another opportunistic corporate capitalist who found an audience to cash in on.
Conservative Rightwing ideology is not good for business and PR, therefore it's not the position of "What makes most money?" In case you miss it Hollywood and companies like Disney still operate the same way conservatives idolize in private business, they're Just socially liberal. Exact same capitalistic dirtbags you probably idolize, they just figured out "Hey, saying the occasional nice thing about women and/or minorities rakes in more money."
"As for your next unrelated to my comment sentence, the left broadly advertises a victimhood mentality, and it has taken hold strong."
Oh please, which side is the "War on Christmas" side? Which side bans books, which side fearmongers about LGBT people, which side turns Everything into an "attack on traditional values"? Cuz it sure as shit ain't us.
"Why do you think you’ve been taught to use the “bigot racist lying dirtbag” argument?"
I wasn't "taught" it, the Right has a massive population of bigoted and racist assholes who have zero issue lying in order to justify their bigotry. FFS you people baselessly accuse LGBT people of being "groomers" expressly because you have nothing else as an argument, so your side defaults to "They're a threat to your children" as a fear tactic. Doing it to trans people, did it to gay people, did it to Black people during Civil Rights, did it to Atheists during the Red Scare, "Exploit the inherent need to protect children" is the go-to bigoted response from the Right against Any demographic they despise. When in doubt: accuse them of pedophilia.
"This causes two things. It causes left leaning people to cry out about being victims of the system, and it causes them to lose hope for their future. Sounds like a never ending cycle of misery doesn’t it?"
You sure do love telling me Why I think how I do.
Also, interesting to be accused of a "never-ending cycle of misery" from the side that Needs to be perpetually under attack in order to justify its existence. If people were Happy under conservative values then conservatives wouldn't need to force it on the rest of us. Force and fear of victimization is the rightwing playbook.
" Anyway, the victimhood mentality is present on both sides, and everyone would be better off if they stopped subscribing to it."
One side has actually valid reasons to feel victimized, the other whines and defends rich people and the bigot's right to abuse over the lives of their victims.
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@seanfoley974 Not sure what your question has to do with anything stated prior, but whatever.
Easy start, expansion of women's bodily rights. You already had it, literally no one but fanatics wanted Roe gone in the first place, easy enough thing to bring back and codify. THe funny thing is "State's Rights" were already in there, it just Also allowed for individual rights in earlier terms. Which seemed perfectly fair as a compromise to me, the individual had full autonomy in the 1st trimester, limited regulation in the 2nd, full State's Rights in the 3rd (since Everyone kind of has an issue with late-term abortions unless there's actually a medical reason that would result in the death of the mother. Seriously, who the hell carries a kid up to the very end and just goes "Nah"? If you put up with it that long you obviously wanted the kid)
Same thing with LGBT rights and equality, your nation at large wants it, just a handful of bigoted assholes with religious excuses (Unconstitutional, by the way) to oppose it. That will pass and expand whether you people like it or not.
As to economic policies, considering Capitalism and Social Democracy aren't mutually exclusive (seriously, for all you people whine about communism literally every nation on Earth we consider a social democracy in any respect is still Capitalist) and considering how fundamentally sick and tired of corporate corruption your people are, more ethical corporate policies and regulation from the government will also (slowly) keep expanding to reign in America's bullshit. I mean hell you guys already want greater collective bargaining rights and the USA already Has a long history of unions doing kickass things for the people (corruption's still an issue, as it is with every human endeavor, but I'll take that risk of "might" vs. the Guarantee of US Corporate corruption and anti-labor practices that exclusively benefit the rich)
Honestly all I need to do is go down the list of popular opinion and I can find a whole host of positions your people want that only Wouldn't work because "The corporate corrupt don't want to lose their moneypit."
There's exactly nothing logistically that would make any of the economic SocDem policies unworkable here and everything to suggest this is what the majority of your people want in the first place.
Not to say it's "All Left", people here still want their guns and liberties and shit, but honestly I've never heard a person on the Right give an actual concrete reason Why these policies wouldn't work here aside from a limp-wristed Appeal to Culture that doesn't add up on the face of it.
I mean "America can't do Socialism" Bitch Please. We literally hero-worship the military as the most honorable profession in this country, and the Military is Socialist As Hell. By definition, the entire thing is tax-funded and the military effectively get Some of the things SocDem's want for All of us, not just us Vets and those who've served actively.
My position is just "Why should an American citizen have to relinquish some of their rights and sign up to be Federal cannonfodder JUST to get benefits other nations give to their people just because they're not Complete assholes?"
Am I That much better than you just because I served? Why should I get my college paid for by the GI Bill but the rest of my countrymen have to eat shit and suffer predatory student loans and corruption just to get a damn education? Why should My kids get a safe education on the government dime Complete With the protection of a military installation, but y'all have to suck it up in the under-funded shitpile that is our standard education?
Is it really so hard to believe that when a SocDem says they want you to have better opportunities than you likely had by default, that they might be serious? I mean that's what society's Supposed to do, right? Make a better and kinder world for our kids so they don't Have to put up with the same BS?
I'm telling you we're Not your enemy, dude. We only shittalk the USA because we see what it Could be and are dismayed when corruption interferes with that.
We don't want to destroy the damn thing, we fucking live here too.
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@justinmiller947 "But the key part you are missing... I've never met a person who wasn't a liar and thief."
No duh. Context matters, a lies is not equal to another lie and a theft is not equal to another theft. There's good reasons to lie and justifiable reasons to steal.
The shamelessly lying and grifting and theft of religion actively misleading and shoving lies into people's heads from childhood is an entirely different scale of stealing and fraud that's been perpetuated nonstop for thousands of years.
" Everyone is a bad guy, most people just choose to justify their bad actions."
No, "everyone" is only a bad guy if you can't mentally process the basic concept of a gradient and just unilaterally treat "all sin as equal", and that logic only makes sense to the religious.
"And yes having a "sky daddy" does not force you to do good. But living as though there are no repercussions doesn't seem to be any more effective."
Which no one does BUT the religious. You people use your Eternal Salvation and Jesus' forgiveness as a scapegoat for your horrendous actions constantly and rationalize your bad actions in the "But it's okay, I'm still saved" absolution of all responsibility.
We, the people WITHOUT God, Do Not Get That Luxury. We HAVE to approach this world and its consequences and repercussions in the very real and practical Fact of their existences. No "Sky Daddy" to apologize to instead of my victims, no "Perfect Moral Good" to hide behind, if We fuck up either We own up to it To The People We Wronged or we're bad people.
No "But Jesus loves me and I'm going to Heaven" to fall back on to excuse me not giving a shit about how my actions affect others.
"People are going to be people, and people do evil things to each other. If you think you or your tribe are the exception, you are just lying to yourself and other."
Statistically speaking Atheists make up a lower number of violent criminals per capita, lower number of prisoners per capita, basically kick the ass out of religious people on "Being less Evil" by any metric that can actually be calculated.
Weird, almost like throwing away the "Divine Perpetual Excuse" forces people to have to justify their values by Purely reality-based assessment instead of allowing them to hide behind God.
...Either that or we're just That Much Better at committing crime than you guys and just never get caught. Either way religion doesn't seem to be doing you any favors if your only options are "We're just dumber criminals" or "Our religion does exactly nothing to make us good people."
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@middleschoolgravy "But what is the answer or at least what is the most realistic answer for right now, that we can actually achieve?"
Most realistic?
What's going to happen if the DNC continues down this road is the most realistic outcome. And the most realistic outcome is the DNC disenfranchising more and more of its own voters until the GOP wins by basic numbers.
That is the "most realistic" outcome of this current course of action. If that is fine with you, then I guess "Press Ahead DNC."
"Because believe it or not I believe a 2nd Trump term would be disastrous for this country and that we could actually fall to authoritarian fascist rule."
Agreed. Which raises the question "Why is the DNC helping him win?" Any PR monkey would tell you this is massively bad PR for elections.
"So yeah, I’m gonna cringe and hitch on to Old Brandon."
Go for it. Seriously, no judgement, I get why you feel this way and wholly support you doing what you think's best in this unfortunate voting choice put before you.
"Otherwise you know, you’d be on the receiving end of the “finding out” too? I don’t want that."
My beef isn't with your efforts, I appreciate them.
My concern is that it's not going to matter what I want. Because it never does. I'm not stating what I stated above as "my political ideal", just "What I think is Going to happen if this chain of events continues unaltered."
Biden will lose if he continues in this way. And the DNC's only possible prayer of avoiding Trump at this point, again IF THEY CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD, is hoping to Christ Trump's disqualified in court.
Because they're actively Handing the vote to him. Every time the Democratic Party wipes their ass with the values they pretended to hold to sucker in votes, they lose voters. That's just a fact of reality. And the Dems, unlike the Reps, don't have a singular monolith of a voting block that's locked in.
We succeed as a unified front, or not at all. And the DNC is actively going out of its way to tell its own voters "We Do Not Need You."
...Muslims they don't needs, working class people they don't need, Floridians they don't need, Leftists they don't need.
How long before the DNC is nothing left but a group of screaming old white men condemning minorities for ruining their lives and "not knowing their place" in an ironic return to origins?
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Wow, it's almost like at one point in time being a Republican meant something besides being a hyper-Christian supremacist and fascist. Like it was an actual political position that had some nuance or something. Fuckin' wild.
Like FFS, just because your establishment party gets taken over by crazy whackjobs doesn't make you drop political positions you still have.
Sound I assume anyone and everyone who supports the DNC are actually in favor of shamelessly enabling the Republicans while only giving lip service to the idea of opposition while they're actively taking money from the same people that fund Republicans?
Shot in the dark, these guys still believe in small government, individual meritocracy as a concept to be revered, capitalistic enterprise and the like. They're not Dave Rubin, they're human beings with a political position.
Do you just wantonly abandon all your political beliefs because some fucking lunatic cult gets their hand on the wheel? Like if some cult infiltrated the Progressive movement you'd suddenly be like "y'know Fuck social democracy, a fucking Scientologist is here, everything I supported politically is now forfeit"?
"Well I still believe in like 90% of the general Republican things, but I'll just forget all that because some Christofascist showed up. My political positions are super-fickle, for I am a gay Republican." /s
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