Comments by "Patchwurk" (@patchwurk6652) on "Matt Binder Triggers Ben Shapiro With Facts u0026 Logic" video.

@societylost4344 Interesting that the freedom of speech argument almost always tends to be the last ditch position of people trying to defend the freedom to use slurs. In case you missed it, the freedom JP was speaking up for was the freedom to insult trans people and reject their stated identity. I.e. The freedom to be a shameless bigoted prick. A freedom he already possessed, but he also wanted freedom from anyone else giving him shit for it.
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@ninjacrumbs "Have you ever heard of this guy named Mark Twain? One of the greatest American authors. Abhorred slavery and racism. Ever read his books? If you have, what mental gymnastics did you go through to block out "that word"?" So... Situation 1: If writing a period piece book covering our excessively racist and bigoted past where that word was a slur. I'm following so far. "You know Leonardo DiCaprio? Djjango Unchained? Ever seen it? Or just Quentin in general?" So... Situation 2: Situation 1 again, except movies. So far kinda noticing that the appropriate contexts are still both heavily racially charged. And also situations your Average Joe is functionally never in. "Ever look in a dictionary? Right after M comes N. Does it exist or not?" Situation 3: When giving a dictionary description of a racial slur. "So if I read my daughter Huckleberry Finn what am I supposed to do 219 times over? Pretend the word doesn`t exist? Hide, or erase the history and context of it? Wouldn`t be better to explain why "that word" has so much impact?" Situation 4: A sub-situation of 1 and 2 again, except where you're reading the work of racially charged nature to someone else. I'm not even saying you're wrong, but I'm really noticing a pattern where the only situations you can think of that aren't racist uses of the N-word are still in heavy orbit to the racist past of said word. Do you have an example that a normal dude would actually come across? Cuz so far I'm kinda SOL unless I'm a writer, or a filmmaker, or a parent/teacher reading an old book to kids. "Furthermore, are not "redneck" and "honkey" derogatory?" The difference is no one's enslaved and shitslammed us honkeys or built a systemic form of oppression against us anytime even remotely recently. There's a fuck of a lot more baggage and bad blood behind the N-Word, it's functionally indisputable.
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@ninjacrumbs " All I am trying to argue is that we shouldn`t fear words when they are used in an albeit super rare circumstance, without malice or intention" The problem is that those usages are in vast minority to the Real people who want to use that word. Because most of the people who champion free speech in regards to slurs don't give a single solitary shit about context usage or ways in which to use those words that aren't offensive. They just want to be able to be racist or otherwise bigoted to someone without anyone else being allowed to call Them on it. The Offense is the entire point, the Cruelty is the entire point. They already Have the free speech to use any slur they want whenever they want. What they Actually want is freedom from anyone else being allowed to respond negatively to them for it. They want their wanton hostility to be protected speech, but everything that could be said in response to them for it viewed as hate-speech. They don't care about fairness, they just want to be able to call any black person they see a N*** and not get in trouble for it.
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Also, are these guys really under the impression that no one would just say the damn word immediately and get it over with? Like I think everyone would kind of understand why and not be shitty if some World Villain made the deactivation code to a nuke a slur or something. No one would be like "Well you Did save us... But you said a slur, so fuck you anyway."
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