Comments by "Hermit Oldguy" (@hermitoldguy6312) on "National Socialism WAS Socialism | Rethinking WW2 History" video.

  1. Some folk are very fixated on the idea that "socialism" involves workers owning the means of production. How do workers do that? If they combine their wealth to build a factory, they are capitalists. If they take the factory, they are thieves.
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  2. I just watched a program on UK free tv, called "Nazi victory: the post-war plan". It didn't contain a single sentence about a post-war plan.The war itself was only mentioned in the last 90 seconds of the progam. The rest of the program was about Nazi pre-war policies and actions and considered if they were "good" things. For example, the 1936 Olympics was cast as an all-round "good thing." Essentially the program was a propaganda attempt to cast totalitarian authoritarianism in the best possible light.
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  3. https://uktvplay.uktv.co.uk/shows/nazi-victory-the-post-war-plan/watch-online/?video=5741284213001
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  4. The whole point of Communist revolution is that if you are poor, you can benefit from stealing from the rich. (KIll thy neighbour, steal his stuff.) That is why the people Communists hate more than they hate the rich, are other Communists - they are competing for the same treasures. (See: Spanish Civil War, WWII French resistance,...)
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  5. @ Le Rapace Utter nonsense. Land is initially free - it belongs to whoever can take it. (Thereafter, it is bought and sold: citizens do indeed own their city - they bought it, they built it.) The means of production always needs an outlay of capital.
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  6. I understand that you chose land because it is the one form of property that is not (usually) made. My argument is not invalidated by it: land itself is not a "means of production", it must be prepared; cleared, drained, hedged, ploughed, tilled, fertilised, etc. - that requires capital. On 25th December 1066, All England belonged to one man - King William I. He stole it, but nevertheless, he held it and no-one could make him give it back. He disposed of most of it as gifts (to his lords, the Church, etc). That is the basis of all property rights here, today. The property rights of the land I own derives from that. Feudalism is irrelevant - a strawman you raised only for the purpose of having something to knock down.
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  7. @ Le Rapace I cannot make you see what you refuse to see. Your "tu qoques" are false, your feudalism strawman irrelevant and boring. I am done entertaining you. Goodbye.
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  8. So far as I can see capitalism is about the creation of wealth and socialism is about the use of wealth. I define capitalism as the wise use of wealth to create more wealth. The basic unit of wealth is food (or energy), so capitalism is a product of nature. The Cheetah must gain more energy from its food than it used in catching it - and that's true for all animals. To survive, you must gain as much as you use. To grow, you must gain more than you use. To feed the wife and kids, you must gain even more. To improve your standard of living, you must gain even more. To contribute to social capital projects (eg, roads) you must gain even more. I define Socialism as the distribution of wealth to maximise the common good. The family unit is socialist; dad creates the wealth, mum distributes it according to need, etc.. The first problem that arises is that dads must compete in their efforts to garner wealth. Nature says "kill thy neighbour, steal his stuff." Competition breeds conflict, and conflict destroys wealth. Otoh, nature says "many hands make light work," and "your neighbours' kids are your own kids future spouses". Peace is desirable, so regulation of competition (and violence) is desirable - ie "government". How much government do men want/need? None = anarchy. Little = liberalism. Lots = fascism. All = absolute tyranny. That's the realm of politics - the degree to which we will enslave ourselves to spite each-other. Capitalism and socialism are not competing economic systems. The antithesis of capitalism is waste (the broken window fallacy.) The antithesis of socialism is waste. (Give the kids an equal share of dad's profits and they'll just buy sweets and toys.)
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  9. Oh, and what any of that has to do with a old religious group is a complete mystery to me.
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  10. Well, I have been known to talk bollocks on occasion, and I don't want to waste your time - I'm not a patron of yours.
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