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Comments by "gerhard7" (@gerhard7323) on "Xi-Biden hotline u0026 Andrew Neil on Brexit – The Week in 60 Minutes | SpectatorTV" video.
Particularly good episode this.
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For all those numbnuts on this thread who don't quite get it, leaving the EU wasn't some pre-agreed homogeneous masterplan it was, first and foremost, a political choice, albeit with economic consequences. It was a long fought for, arguably pressing binary choice between our autonomy and the nature of our future governance. You don't get divorced and magically and instantly become better off than your peers who haven't FFS. The fact that remaining in the EU was essentially a vote for a status quo ie essentially changing nothing by default, doesn't exactly qualify for a great master plan for the future in my book either.
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@rodmarker2071 EU founding member Italy's economy pretty much hasn't grown in real terms since 2000, that's over 20 years, and the less said about Greece the better.
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The UK is the EU's third biggest export market after the US and China. To imagine that there aren't also consequences and extra costs for EU firms here would be fanciful. It's not a one way street. The EU essentially derives its political power and impetus through the customs union and single market which it uniquely legally oversees. Your extra costs and inconveniences are an indirect consequence, collateral damage if you like, of its greater political ambitions.
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It was a referendum not an election. Remember, everyone thought that remaining was a shoo-in, even David Cameron, so who exactly was supposed to present a comprehensive plan for what form leaving might take nevermind have the mandate for doing so?
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What is 'JAB'?
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@rodmarker2071 Inconveniently for you both Italy and Greece are in the EU though so what point are you trying to prove there? Also, if you look at UK growth figures compared with its EU peers since 2016 ie the last 6 years you cite then it has been more than comparable. Recent post covid figures have been undeniably poorer, but perhaps you'd like to compare it with EU powerhouse Germany's forecast. Try answering without using pathetic emojis if you intend to next time unless of course you're a child.
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@rodmarker2071 Of course not....God forbid that 'rodmarker' is little more than a 'willywaver'. Still, thanks for confirming my earlier assumption.
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@rodmarker2071 A little bizarre. You obviously hate the UK, you hate the British, you're obviously glad you 'left', your business is flourishing like never before in the EU, you're glad you pay your taxes in Ireland and yet you still have a Union Jack as your YT avatar and you still find the time and inclination to come on here to let the world know how sh*tty the UK is whilst knowing next to f*ck all about the economic situation of Europe as a whole. You are indeed a 'special' kind of person rodmarker.
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Staying in the EU on a 3.8% margin would have been........
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It's terribly sad that the situation today as it stands that the only way for the UK to make its way successfully in the world outside of the EU is for the EU itself to fail. The EU and those who champion it, both domestically and abroad, are actively making it its business that the UK pays a mighty high political and economic price for its democratic choice in 2016. The EU is, perhaps, an inevitable imperial ambition for Europe in a US/Sino dominated world and seemingly woe betide anyone who stands in its way but lest we forget it is propped up by the German economy and the money it has long provided. An export focused, energy reliant manufacturing economy built on decades of bountiful cheap Russian energy and a strong export market with China....
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@samhartford8677 The FT piece was a clear hatchet job and it's quite apparent from many of the xenophobic comments underneath that piece that hating on the British is now a perfectly acceptable thing to do because of Brexit. Funny that. For those who are genuinely, and I mean genuine interested not mindless fanboys or girls,, in a more fact-based view of Brexit, its economic consequences and of the EU's own prospects then I'd recommend listening to the economist Ashoka Mody.
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Thought it was an acronym. Totally see your point now.
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@swingro2011 Not exactly what I'd call a demolition job there. Fancy getting off your doubtless highly intellectual arse and having a go?
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Don't know what you're missing here.
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