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@I_hate_Google This from nature last month
Article
Published: 07 June 2021
Spread of a SARS-CoV-2 variant through Europe in the summer of 2020
Emma B. Hodcroft, Moira Zuber, Sarah Nadeau, Timothy G. Vaughan, Katharine H. D. Crawford, Christian L. Althaus, Martina L. Reichmuth, John E. Bowen, Alexandra C. Walls, Davide Corti, Jesse D. Bloom, David Veesler, David Mateo, Alberto Hernando, Iñaki Comas, Fernando González-Candelas, SeqCOVID-SPAIN consortium, Tanja Stadler & Richard A. Neher
Nature (2021)Cite this article
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Following its emergence in late 2019, the spread of SARS-CoV-21,2 has been tracked by phylogenetic analysis of viral genome sequences in unprecedented detail3,4,5. Although the virus spread globally in early 2020 before borders closed, intercontinental travel has since been greatly reduced. However, travel within Europe resumed in the summer of 2020. Here we report on a SARS-CoV-2 variant, 20E (E
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@skankhunt_-42 All these guys just making shit up.
If it's so easy apply for a job as a virologist or molecular biologist and say you are happy to take part n the conspiracy, they will snap your hand off right?
ArticlePublished: 07 June 2021
Spread of a SARS-CoV-2 variant through Europe in the summer of 2020
Emma B. Hodcroft, Moira Zuber, Sarah Nadeau, Timothy G. Vaughan, Katharine H. D. Crawford, Christian L. Althaus, Martina L. Reichmuth, John E. Bowen, Alexandra C. Walls, Davide Corti, Jesse D. Bloom, David Veesler, David Mateo, Alberto Hernando, Iñaki Comas, Fernando González-Candelas, SeqCOVID-SPAIN consortium, Tanja Stadler & Richard A. Neher
Nature (2021)Cite this article
19k Accesses
801 Altmetric
Metricsdetails
Abstract
Following its emergence in late 2019, the spread of SARS-CoV-21,2 has been tracked by phylogenetic analysis of viral genome sequences in unprecedented detail3,4,5. Although the virus spread globally in early 2020 before borders closed, intercontinental travel has since been greatly reduced. However, travel within Europe resumed in the summer of 2020. Here we report on a SARS-CoV-2 variant, 20E (E
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@KehOfAllTrades KehOfAllTrades From this 15 year old article the points you probably want to refer me too are the fact that Ferguson referred to a novel virus potentially being a global killer? They are, we are in the middle of one right now.
That viruses can mutate? They do. That Spanish flu killed up to 100 million? It did.
They don't know, biological mathematics is not the same as having a crystal ball. They build models and run scenarios.
What scenario do we have? 382,000 deaths in 3 months. Over half seasonal flu deaths globally in a quarter of the time AND (the part you keep failing to acknowledge) WITH lockdown.
Deaths in the UK from seasonal? Average given as 17,000 with lows at 2000 and highs at 28,000.
COVID deaths is now at 39000, in 3 months, WITH lockdown.
USA? Seasonal 26,000-83,000 (ball park, some variation here)
COVID? 108,000 in 3 months. WITH lockdown.
Is this sinking in yet?
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@Andyburns-vt6rs That's a good point, I have read that the spread is beyond that of many other viruses like SARS 1, MERS, bird flu and a few others. Research suggests that where the viral particles are issued from host and the number are the key factors. Upper respiratory tract, lower, throat nose etc. COVID from memory is upper and the number is very high. Don't quote me on this because the article was from March and these publications were coming out very fast to try and keep the science community informed. The mode of transmission is still unclear, for me this virus has droplet infection written all over it, why? (This is the first personal speculation I am giving, everything else is widely available in the literature) the speed of transmission, I don't think a contagious infection would take hold so quickly.
Also the range of spread, all those countries (263) in a matter of 2-3 months? This suggests air ports, lots of people and close space. There are plenty of fomites but airports are clean and population transient.
I could be wrong and fomites may be the biggie
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@Andyburns-vt6rs Like I said Andy you are asking some pretty decent questions. Someone who does this for a living, day to day would give you better answers. I'll chase him, we went to University together (he was brilliant at maths) he did Pharmacology and I would have wiped the floor with him at this subject 30 years ago. Now he is near the top of his field!
You are spot on with a few points, some viruses have no Vaccines and may never have them, HIV recognised as a virus around 1981, 40 years later???
Common cold? Rhinovirus? Nope.
There must be others, EBOLA is a nasty one too, 80-90% morality, they were working on one, a three in one Vaccine. Not sure how that panned out.
COVID? I have hope, we have other flu vaccinations (since 2011 mine seems to have been ok)
I know you have doubts on those but let's see what I get back.
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