Comments by "pinball1970" (@pinball1970) on "ABC News" channel.

  1.  @carloslopez5717  "In god we trust" was added to your money in 1956, nothing to do with your constitution.
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  2. I'm a Brit so this is all strange to us. Teaching about the Bible is fine, so in the case of the ten commandments they should tell the kids what scholarship has to say, NOT what a preacher would say. So there are in 613 commandments with many relating to farming and livestock. There is zero evidence for a historical Moses and those associated stories are inventions.
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  3.  @carloslopez5717  Added 1956, when was your constitution written?
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  4.  @vashmatrix5769  Nope "kind" is not a concept in Biology. I again ask you, did you skip science class i school?
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  5.  @vashmatrix5769  No it really isnt anything like that. You are making yourself look profoundly ignorant.
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  6.  @vashmatrix5769  Why do you keep spamming the same stupid nonsense? Evolution is a fact, it is a mountain of facts and the Theory of Evolution explains those facts. Read a damn science book, your ignorance is not my problem.
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  7.  @vashmatrix5769  Life from nothing? What does that have to do with Evolution? You know what the Theory is right?
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  8.  @vashmatrix5769  I know you think because scientifically illiterate organisations like AIG and DI dress their nonsense up as science it is real areas of debate in the serious scientific community. It isn't. There is is no doubt whatsoever that evolution happens, not just the micro thing which is again a creationist tack, but common ancestry and large scale changes over time.
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  9.  @vashmatrix5769  Like i said READ some of the scientific literature on the subject because you clearly do not understand it.
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  10.  @vashmatrix5769  Just to be clear, you are a creationist right?
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  11.  @vashmatrix5769  I am talking about Biological Evolution which is a fact and there is no debate in the serious scientific community on that.
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  12.  @vashmatrix5769  You using creationist terms, micro. There is just Evolution.
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  13.  @vashmatrix5769  "Everyone I have met..." Ok. Not a great argument sir.
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  14.  @Emu-spits-her-opinion  and Evolution!
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  15. Ok just one more thought, if you are looking to kind of mess about with, ignore and go against your constitution then I would start with the second amendment rather than the first. That could save lives AND not expose your kids to tribal nonsense in one foul swoop.
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  16.  @maranatha5819  You can test science and also look at the world around us that is built on scientific endeavours. You are using it now to post, you understand that right?
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  17.  @elkastico7727  Nope, God's not arsed about hunger, drought, diseases famine and war. It's almost like he does not exist.
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  18.  cpk1994  Pointing out religion is harmful to the human race makes one a bigot?
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  19.  @mike62mcmanus  well because it says it the Bible it must be true right?
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  20.  cpk1994  Do you think telling kids there is a hell is harmful? That there is a devil/demons waiting o take their soul?
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  21.  @vashmatrix5769  Evolution is fact, did you skip science class or something?
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  22.  @vashmatrix5769  You are not informing me of anything, you have not said anything remotely scientific.
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  23.  @vashmatrix5769  For the second time "kind" is a Biblical term not a scientific term for biological taxonomy.
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  24.  @vashmatrix5769  What do you think Evolution is? In your own words please?
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  25.  @vashmatrix5769  What do you have against religion?
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  26.  @vashmatrix5769  I'm British so do not have your privilege of freedom of religion regarding my education. However, governments, ideologies, political regimes such as they are envy the US in this regard. I do too. The founding fathers had vision, courage and intelligence.
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  27.  @vashmatrix5769  We can still converse no problem mate
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  28.  @vashmatrix5769  We still can
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  29.  @vashmatrix5769  Freedom of religion yes, I agree.
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  30.  @vashmatrix5769  The Theory of Evolution is just another scientific theory that happens to be the cornerstone of Biology. Like atomic theory is the corner stone of Chemistry.
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  31.  @vashmatrix5769  Stop making things up.
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  32.  @vashmatrix5769  No it isn't, I encountered it in virtually every Biology module.
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  33.  @vashmatrix5769  It makes perfect sense if you have studied Biology at University.
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  34.  @vashmatrix5769  Yes the Theory of Evolution is established science. Your opinion, this discussion makes no difference to that. How does the published literature make it into texts books, like atomic theory, germ theory of disease, quantum theory? It is tested and TOE has stood up to that test.
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  35.  @vashmatrix5769  The scientific community disagree with you.
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  36.  @vashmatrix5769  This is nothing to do with god. I studied Biology while I was still a believer. I rejected my faith after uni but it was not because of Evolution, that probably came a little later.
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  37.  @vashmatrix5769  Apologies, I should have said, "serious" scientific community.
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  38.  @vashmatrix5769  You want to tell me what my faith was like? How would you know that?
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  39.  @vashmatrix5769  I do not know why you keep making this statement about "5 unsupported claims." Second time, I am talking about the Theory of Evolution, Biological Evolution as we understand it today.
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  40.  @vashmatrix5769  Not "5 unsupported claims." I am talking about the Theory of Evolution.
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  41.  @vashmatrix5769  Presumably that Harvard Professor is a member of this organization? Since you will not take my word for it being a lowly first degree UG applied Biology right? You want to know what the top professors in the US said about evolution? American Association of University Professors is an organization of professors and other academics in the United States. AAUP membership is about 47,000, with over 500 local campus chapters and 39 state organizations. "deplores efforts in local communities and by some state legislators to require teachers in public schools to treat evolution as merely a hypothesis or speculation, untested and unsubstantiated by the methods of science, and to require them to make students aware of an 'intelligent-design hypothesis' to account for the origins of life. These initiatives not only violate the academic freedom of public school teachers, but can deny students an understanding of the overwhelming scientific consensus regarding evolution."
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  42.  @vashmatrix5769  How about the AAAS? The world's largest general scientific society? The AAAS serves some 262 affiliated societies and academies of science, serving 10 million individuals. A 2006 statement on the teaching of evolution: "Some bills seek to discredit evolution by emphasizing so-called "flaws" in the theory of evolution or "disagreements" within the scientific community. Others insist that teachers have absolute freedom within their classrooms and cannot be disciplined for teaching non-scientific "alternatives" to evolution. A number of bills require that students be taught to "critically analyse" evolution or to understand "the controversy." But there is no significant controversy within the scientific community about the validity of the theory of evolution. The current controversy surrounding the teaching of evolution is not a scientific one."
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  43.  @vashmatrix5769  Or these guys? American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology? Representing 12,000 biochemists and molecular biologists.? The president of the society wrote, "Their [religious fundamentalists'] latest ploy masquerades as "critical thinking" or "freedom of expression" and takes the form of laws prohibiting someone from being dismissed from his or her job for teaching the alleged controversy about evolution, by which they mean that it’s perfectly OK for a so-called science teacher to present creationism, intelligent design and other Bible-in-science-clothing religious doctrines as legitimate alternatives to evolution, even though anyone who does so ought to be fired for incompetence."
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  44.  @vashmatrix5769  How about our cousins down under? Faculty of Science at the University of New South Wales representing more than 70,000 Australian scientists and science teachers with signatories from the Australian Academy of Science, the Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies, and the Australian Science Teachers Association. "(Intelligent design) is a theological or philosophical notion... Evolution meets all (scientific) criteria but ID meets none of them: it is not science."
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  45.  @vashmatrix5769  Lets keep getting serious (are you getting this yet?) The UK's most prestigious scientific organisation. The Royal Society "opposes the misrepresentation of evolution in schools to promote particular religious beliefs" and states "intelligent design has far more in common with a religious belief in creationism than it has with science, which is based on evidence acquired through experiment and observation. The theory of evolution is supported by the weight of scientific evidence; the theory of intelligent design is not."
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  46.  @vashmatrix5769  Canada getting serious. The Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, Ottawa Centre, said, "The RASC Ottawa Centre, then, is unequivocal in its support of contemporary evolutionary theory that has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been refined by findings accumulated over 140 years. Some dissenters from this position are proponents of non-scientific explanations of the nature of the universe. These may include "creation science", "creationism", "intelligent design" or other non-scientific "alternatives to evolution". While we respect the dissenters’ right to express their views, these views are theirs alone and are in no way endorsed by the RASC Ottawa Centre. It is our collective position that these explanations do not meet the characteristics and rigour of scientific empiricism."
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  47.  @vashmatrix5769  There are others and you can check the websites on more details on these serious scientific organizations, the below is joint statement issued by the national science academies of 67 countries, including the United Kingdom's Royal Society. “ warning that scientific evidence about the origins of life was being "concealed, denied, or confused". It urges parents and teachers to provide children with the facts about the origins and evolution of life on Earth.”
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  48.  @vashmatrix5769  But hey never fear, I bet there are plenty of scientific organizations in these countries that ban the teaching of Evolution in schools. Saudi Arabia, Oman, Algeria, and Morocco: Evolution is completely banned from schools and colleges in these countries. In Saudi Arabia, evolution is described as a blasphemous theory that goes against Islamic teachings. Lebanon: Evolution was removed from the curriculum due to religious pressure. Jordan: Evolution is taught in a religious context, along with relevant verses from the Qur'an. Egypt and Tunisia: Evolution is presented as an unproven hypothesis. Turkey: Evolution was excluded from biology textbooks for 14 and 15 year olds. The government argued that students are too young to understand controversial subjects.
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  49.  @vashmatrix5769  Not all the orgs posted for some reason, anyway all the main top American scientific organisations (Academy of science, advancement, association of professors, Biochemistry and molecular biology etc) made similar statements.
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  50.  @vashmatrix5769  One thing at a time. You cited a Harvard professor and I gave you my citations including the American association of professors. Every single serious scientific institution in America, Europe and Australia accepts the Theory as solid and verified.
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