Comments by "pinball1970" (@pinball1970) on "There's Something About Casey..." video.

@fymmca4395 I'm watching this from the start again. Something went seriously wrong here OR i missing something. She admitted the child died in her care She googled suffocation prior She did not show any normal behaviour following the death of a child. She went out partying and wrote she was happy in her journal. She disposed of the body The body was found with duct tape on the body. I am ignoring all the other fabrications. When does circumstantial evidence become evidence? This is just as an unqualified (law) interested observer. I have served n a jury once in the UK. Not a murder case.
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@fymmca4395 50.12 body found, the night before Google suffocation searches. Tattoo beautiful life partying with boyfriend weeks after 31 days after. 'Right decision' 'Happiest I have been' entry in diary. You have to pair that behaviour with the accidental death of a child. All those facts versus her abuse story which has no evidence whatsoever besides testimony. A story, perhaps the parents last ditch attempt to save their child's life?
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@Sqwan2 The 2 cops took a few minutes to work out she lied about everything and had killed the girl.
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Biggest detail for me? The kid drowned accidentally and she dumped the body in a swamp. Why did wrap the child's head in duct tape? Your kid drowns accidentally you call 911 immediately. Just in case there is that one in million chance they can bring back that child back. What you don't do is wrap duct tape over the nose and mouth and dump it in the swamp. That combined with the suffocation Google searches the night before, then partying for 31 days after, writing how happy you are in your journal and getting a nice 'life is beautiful' tattoo. She was assessed to be sane by experts, she knew what she was doing. She killed the kid, dumped the body made up a story, got caught then got off with it. That's pretty much it.
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@tedlambert12 I don't know how the law works just some basics. I have been on jury service once and they said a guilty verdict has be beyond reasonable doubt via the facts of the case. The facts here, she admitted to dumping the body. If your child drowns you call an ambulance immediately. Even if the child is dead a mother in desperation calls 911 with a glimmer of hope? She didn't do that, she dumped her in a swamp. A distraught mother would then do what? Go partying? Write in her journal that she was happy? All the rest was a red herring so she would not get caught, the fabrication regarding the nanny and work colleagues. When did the accidentally drowning story arise? After two years? Apologies I have forgotten some details. She was in charge of that child who subsequently died and she got rid of the body. Two options, it was an accident or she killed her. I have no doubt she killed that kid.
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@Sqwan2 I don't think feelings come into too much, we are not connected to the family. It is a tragedy yes. I said the same to Ted Lambert. The facts are the child died in her care and she then disposed of the body. She then went out partying, wrote she was happy in her journal. She is asking us the accept that is how a distraught mother would behave. She googled suffocation and the recovered body had duct tape on the head? (I will watch it again, I can't remember all the details) I do not accept her story the child died via accident. It is about plausibility and nothing in her story adds up. What I don't know is if the jury were privy to details that JCS provided. Perhaps not all those details were presented as evidence? Admissible?
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@leewan8873 Very very good catch Lee. Yeah. She knows she is dead and know that she messed up there.
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@fymmca4395 I am watching again because I want to see if all those details were available to the jury.
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@Sqwan2 Ok no problem. You presented a different view so I was interested. Peace fella (as we say in the UK, in Manchester at least!)
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@just_passing_through They ruled the death a homicide after the body was examined. One thing is certain there is an awful lot about this case that does not make sense. Casey Anthony did not testify at the trial but her father did. My guess is they would be worried she would incriminate herself. Her father denied abusing her so that story could be a crock as well. Casey said in an interview recently that she did not know how Casey died, this was recorded and you can hear her say it. I'll try and post the link. So the drowning story is definitely a crock. Some of the lab tests were thrown in doubt regarding, traces of chloroform and gases relating to decomposing tissue. There were some major forensics fuck ups that that defense used to a non technical jury. There were Google searches on 'Chloroform' and 'suffocation' on the home computer using Casey's id the days before that were attributed to Cindy the mother NOT Casey by the defense. Cindy was clocked in at work at the time the searches took place. So how did she do the searches? She left work early. Sure they had an answer for everything but the jury was asked to accept some tall explanations. They are looking to put forward a new law in some states as a result of this case. Relating to reporting a missing child.
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@birdsofco Is a dead child solid evidence? Dumped/Hidden in a swamp? Classed as a homicide by the coroner? Duct tape wrapped around the head? I live in the UK so, a scenario. My kid went missing, I am male. Reported missing by my mother NOT me a month later. Mother states my vehicle 'smells like a dead body," on the 999 call (that's our emergency #) I lie about the child's disappearance to police I show ZERO interest in finding the child and show zero normal behaviour following the disappearance or death of a child. Body is found, pathologists rule it a murder. Masking tape round the head. I googled suffocation and chloroform night before child's disappearance. Entries in my journal, indicated that I am 'happiest I have been' and 'made the right decision' I decline to take the stand at the trial. Drs rule me sane. What do you think?
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@birdsofco If I was on trial for my life I would take the stand. Obviously we are not seeing the full picture of how the evidence was presented. We are being asked (as a juror say) to accept her story. A drowning story that did not emerge for two years. Did she kill the child? No, the child was left alone for long enough to drown in a pool and somehow ended up in a swamp with duct tape wrapped around the head. I would have rejected that story and looked at the alternative. Murder. We know the drowning story was made up as she said recently that she didn't know how she died. (Audio in an interview) The father denied abusing her in the trial. There is absolutely nothing she said about that kid that was true. Is there, video, DNA, eye witness evidence? No. Her stories had zero evidence to support them so she either killed the child or knows who did.
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@birdsofco If you were innocent would you not want to put your version across?
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@birdsofco I would not take that right from you.
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@birdsofco I don't think this story is over. Something will come out. Double Jeopardy law would prevent another trial from what I have read but this would not stop something incriminating coming out.
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@quickchris10comcast Did they get the dad on the stand
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@paulbush1497 You think it was an accident?
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@leewan8873 She gave an interview recently. She claimed that she does not know how her daughter died which conflicts with her defense testimony. These things tend to come out after time. Let's see.
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@Sqwan2 I play drums btw. If you check my recent posts I would be honoured. I checked your channel
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@Sqwan2 No I hadn't guessed that English is not your first Lang. You are obviously intelligent! I need to watch again and more importantly find out which details were given to the jury. That is what is important for me. I will check in soon mate.
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@Sqwan2 That's good thanks. Yes we learn more from each other being civil. What is your native language? If I may ask?
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@tedlambert12 I watched it again. Some key things missing for me. I would have liked to have seen some of the cross examination. She did not actually tell police where the body was? Also no details about where how and why she dumped the body.
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@Sqwan2 I have some good American contacts, I suppose they are like everyone else, some decent and others not so much.
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@Sqwan2 As soon as someone reverts to insults you know the argument must be weak. Also the smart people ask questions, those who have made their minds up already will not learn. This case we have been talking about gets even more bizarre, law suits against Casey Anthony after the trial and details in the trial too. Her father got rid of the body??? She did not speak at the trial? Very strange.
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@just_passing_through Is this for me?
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@just_passing_through I am totally ignoring the charade she presented. I am just focusing on the fact the child died in her care and was dumped in a swamp with duct tape round the head. Someone from her IPE googled suffocation the night before and then the kid was never seen again. As a parent, the absolute LAST thing I would do is dump my kid in a swamp after accidentally drowning, get a tattoo that life is beautiful, enter in my diary that it was 'the right decision' then go party. She killed that kid and got rid of the body.
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@just_passing_through It's really not a good idea to speak to someone who you never met like that. I just listed the facts. READ my post
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@just_passing_through I do understand the 'concept of evidence' I have a degree in applied Biology and use something called the Scientific method in my job. Empiricism. Something you may not be aware of.
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@just_passing_through Curious, tattoo, partying etc not evidence. Yes. Why you miss duct tape out? Wrapped around the the nose and mouth?
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@just_passing_through I would have thought that a recovered body with duct tape round the head was a fact AND evidence of foul play. The claims are that the father got rid of the body and child accidentally drowned in the pool remember. Why the duct tape? Why did her car smell of rotting flesh? The father recognised that smell remember? Why was he surprised and concerned by that smell if he dumped it? They left the body hanging about till it started to rot then dumped it in a swamp. Is that evidence of accidental drowning or evidence of foul play? On wiki (not verified but it is another source) it says someone else did the search using her pc and the father dumped the body. She lied about everything up to the point she was arrested and after two years presented a story we being asked to treat as the truth. It is not evidence she is a murderer but it is evidence that she is a liar and comfortable telling lies. One final thing and it's annoying we only get snippets in court. How did the child drown? Was the child just left alone in the garden? Where there was a pool? Did anyone call 911? Attempt to resuscitate? Do these accidents happen? Yes. However the jury was asked to believe this was an accident via her testimony.
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@just_passing_through I am not focusing on her lies, I don't need to prove she lied. I am looking at the body, evidence relating to that and plausibility of a two year old died accidentally dying in her mother's care then ended up in a swamp. The drowning was just another lie so what happened?
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@just_passing_through The trial lasted 6 weeks and we saw next to nothing. Too many things missing. Casey Anthony did not take the stand I would have asked the following to the father/mother. Who found the body? Where? CPR attempted? Why no 911? Then what? Who dumped it? When? How do you explain the duct tape? Why did Cindy say the car 'smelled like a dead body?' If they dumped the body why the surprised the car smelled that way? Who told Casey her daughter was dead? (She said she didn't know) Why didn't she insist on calling 911. Why the Google search for chloroform and suffocation? The day before she was never seen again? I could go on. I'm not trained in law in any way and I have done one Jury service in the 1990s but that's it. I'm just a curious guy asking questions.
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@ericabouchard8786 I am not involved with law so I would be interested in a neutral qualified view on this from a professional. All my mates are STEM guys.
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@ericabouchard8786 It would be nice if the law protected two year olds who died in questionable circumstances first and foremost.
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@ericabouchard8786 Yes I read that.
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@unknownname6519 Yes the drowning story was complete crock. She was interviewed recently and she claimed that she 'Did not know' what happened to Kaylee so all that nonsense was a lie in court. The abuse story was also contradicted by the father so that could have been bullshit too.
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