Comments by "seneca983" (@seneca983) on "Why are there so few city-states?" video.

@Frahamen But I think that's a point in favor of it being a city-state rather than against. I would argue that Luxembourg is closer to what the "classical city-state" than the so called "true city-states" mentioned. The classical city-states in e.g. ancient Greece were small states centered around a single major city but they were not super small. E.g. Athens' territory was composed of the entire Attica with most of it being rural. The modern region of Attica is 3,800 km² which is over 50% bigger than Luxembourg. Granted, ancient Attica was smaller than the modern region but I think it was still larger than current Luxembourg. Also, ancient Attica also had Piraeus which, at least back then, was a clearly separate city from Athens itself. Modern states like Singapore that are basically all urban area are very different from the classical city states. I say Luxembourg is more of a "true city-state" than Singapore if by "city-state" you want to make a comparison to ancient Greece.
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@EstebanRapido The ancient Attica (territory of Athens) was even larger than Luxembourg today so by that logic Athens wasn't a city-state either. My point was that the ancient city-states were larger than just one city (though they were still small states centered around one major city). In this sense Luxembourg does resemble a classical city-state.
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Joe Becker The ancient Greek (and other) city-states also had a lot of vegetation. Why would it make them non-city-states?
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I'm not sure it makes sense to talk about e.g. the ancient Greek city-states and the likes of Singapore being similar. The ancient city-states were small states centered around a single city but in those times the city itself contained a fairly small part of the population. Most of the population still lived in rural areas controlled by the city in smaller towns, villages, and farms. E.g. modern-day Singapore is very different. In Singapore almost all of the land area is urban and basically everyone lives in an urban area.
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@edipires15 Why not?
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@El Dimos Karam The Roman citizens could vote and be elected to positions too so it wasn't that far off.
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@El Dimos Karam After a certain point plebeians too could be elected to the highest office of consul. Even before that, all citizens could vote in the consular elections.
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