Comments by "Peter Ford" (@peterford9369) on "Ex-KGB agent reacts to Putin's 'terrifying' remarks" video.
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@michaelgl8516 The thing is Ruth, things like this go on thruout the world. Look at Afghanistan. Iraq. Everywhere we've stuck our nose in, so to speak, what has happened? There has been thousands of soldiers and civilians killed and the events still go on. Viet Nam, Korea. Africa. How many places have we, stuck our noses in. And the mess stays the same? Unless there is a complete annihilation of bad people, governments, whatever. The cancer comes back. Russia has been an ongoing battle for decades. Some things you just can't fix by more war. Yes, something needs to be done. But just like when we have our personal problems here, that cause deaths and destruction. We don't ask other countries to come and fight our battles. We help as we can without adding to the destruction. I'll guarantee you, if we went in, guns blazing, it would start ww3. And you and I, your kids and grandkids may very well be nothing more than statistics. Right along with every Ukrainian. Ww3, won't be an ongoing back and forth. It'll be the apocalypse. Or close to it.
Zelenskyy talks from the spirit of an actor. Speeches are fine. Reality is another thing. He just wants to win, just like Putin. Which is maybe how all this started. Both leaders being tuff guys. Then the people pay the price.
Anyway Ruth, I agree it seems more could be done to help Ukraine and her people. But it has to be considered, every step.
Nobody is turning their heads and ignoring it at all.
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@michaelgl8516 I agree Ruth that Ukraine deserves to be a free government, if they wish. But since WW2, governments have made and signed agreements. We the people obviously aren't privy to every detail of. Or choose to check into. America cannot be responsible for policing every other country when they have internal issues.
Like I said, we don't know all the reasons this situation escalated to it's present state. At least I don't, do you? I do know it's been simmering for years before now. I know too that before Zelenskyy, were other leaders,more in tune with Putin s ideals and maybe that's the problem.
All I can say is, no-one is turning their heads and ignoring this. It's being dealt with daily. We, " the US", can legally only do so much. The Russian people have some say in this. As it grows, sentiment in Russia will move towards stopping it somehow. Hopefully. Aid is flowing in from everywhere. Help with weapons, and supplies are constant.
And yes we can compare Ukraine to Afghanistan or the other countries we have been in. Those people are just as human as the Ukraine people. They desired freedom to choose their own government and lifestyle too. But sometimes in country traditions win out. And the standards stick. We're not the perfect example of perfect society, so we just don't have the right to put ourselves over the rights of other societies to be what they've been for centuries. This is why treaties and pacts are made between different countries. We have to abide by those pacts too.
It's terrible what the citizens of Ukraine are having to live through. Just as for other countries that live in a dictatorship. But sometimes you have to watch from your border, help where you can to minimize strife. And hope in this case, the Russian people will do the right thing. Make him stop. He knows he can't win, at least whole heartedly. But we can't make the Russian people do what they won't do. No more than other countries telling us who we should elect or dump. We're all people of the world, true. But until every country signs some agreement to listen to us or someone else, every time there are conflicting views. We have to do what we're doing.
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@michaelgl8516 Ruth, I do agree Ukraine is a country, state, that wants democracy. You say, Afghan people don't seem to want democracy, enough to fight for it. And once again, I don't know any Afghan people. Nor do I know why they don't seem to want to stand up to extremists like the Taliban. But once again, that doesn't make them expendable either. Yet we were there for 20 years trying to train and give them incentive. Maybe it's religious reasoning, maybe something else.
But it's things like Vietnam , Korea, and others, that show us using every diplomatic way to stop tyranny before reverting to killing yet more people, is more civilized. Seems all war does is reduce population to the point that there's no one left to fight.
You also say the Russian people won't do what is necessary. That's what happens in an authoritarian government. Propaganda keeps the people from knowing the truth. Daddy says, Ukraine bad. Must be true. Daddy don't lie.
Thats why everyone is working to educate the Russian people. With our own propaganda, haha. Do we ever really know the.. truth? Do we know for fact... Ukraine is telling the whole truth and nothing but? Do the Ukrainian people fight and die for the truth? I've heard Ukraine was a very crooked state or country. Whatever it is. There are so many different answers. But obviously murdering thousands of people, is contemptuous at best. And it should stop.
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