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Comments by "林子倫" (@zilun) on "Taiwan TV Series Depicting China Invasion Sparks Debate" video.
@rakatanlord1911 I was going to name Devotion. China had a massive propaganda movie about Korean War just a year or so prior to that movie. I remember leaving a comment in Devotion's trailer, "U.S.'s idea of heroism: Bring our men home alive; China's idea of heroism: Willingness to suffer the most extreme to a painful death for North Korea" That pissed off a lot of wumaos.
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@mirage2154 「根據後來解密的資料顯示,即便是美國人到了鴨綠江邊,毛澤東的大多數中共政治局的同事當時都反對出兵,認為美國不會危及中國的(中共的)安危。這其中就包括在中共軍隊的將領林彪。毛澤東正是認定了美國不想擴大戰爭,才力排眾議入韓參戰」
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It's about days leading to actual war. Like how Russia lied, claiming its troops were just on drills when they were actually mobilizing for invasion; like how Russia flooded Ukraine with fake news of Ukraine's president fleeing to U.S., etc, etc. It's strategies China would likely use to weaken Taiwan's defense and morale before actual invasion. It's meant to start a conversation about strengthening Taiwan against such malice. It's not about the actual war.
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@mirage2154 Mao was 100% certain U.S. had absolutely zero interest in invading China BEFORE he decided to take part in Korean War. He would have sat out of that war and focus on defending China if U.S. was going to invade. North Korea invaded South Korea. That was how it started. U.S. helped drove back North Korea.
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@mirage2154 Those info are retrieved from historical records. Recorded by CCP itself. Go ask scholars. You are the one who isn’t reading enough.
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@DccAnh My grandpa was here before CCP was even born. So, tell me, at which point did my family being here become "illegal"?
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You haven't been paying attention to global economics
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@mirage2154 They don’t need to get those records. Those records were available from China’s libraries. Or at least they were available during late Deng’s era and Hu's era.
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China and Taiwan's stocks performance pretty much shows no one agrees with you.
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@why_are_you_gae6729 We didn't invade China to have those territories. We still hold them because if we give up any, it sends a wrong message to China. Putin annexed Crimea. No consequences. What happened next? He invaded again. Mafia don't think like we do. We may think it's easier to let go of islands that's impossible to defend, but China will see it as a weakness in will power. Taiwan was tested once when Mao bombed Kinmen for years. That conviction paid off. Mao got the message.
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This mini-series is funded by your so-called "separatists", so I'm pretty sure the point of this 10-shows series by 10 award winning directors has jack to do with your idea of "the point here".
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@GIN.356.A Us leave? Funny thing is, CCP can't take our homes, but CCP can take YOUR homes which you paid for. Btw, that also pretty much proves we aren't part of China.
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@DccAnh My grandpa was a boy born into a poor famer’s family during Japanese occupation era. Japanese saw he was a bright kid and gave him full scholarship to study agriculture in Japan. He helped advanced Japan and Taiwan’s agriculture. He is THE man who figured out how to grow ginseng outside of Korea. He became a multi-millionaire because of it. He met his wife when he was in Japan. My dad was born in Japan right when WWII ended, before his parents move back to Taiwan. When KMT came to Taiwan, KMT robbed my grandpa clean and locked him in prison under the pretense that he “worked for Japanese”. He died under stress of endless interrogations when my dad was 9. My dad still has nightmares of seeing his dad in prison. What do you mean you doubt it. The arrogance of Chinese. Why the fvck would you think you know my grandpa more than I do? Oh, because you are Chinese and Chinese know EVERYTHING. Sheesh.
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@DccAnh Descendants of those who came with KMT post RoC Civil War, aren’t majority of Taiwanese. Taiwanese used to label them as outsiders. They can’t even speak Taiwanese. You don’t know Taiwan’s history. Not one bit.
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@DccAnh CCP can’t take our homes. But CCP can surely take yours. You are more at risk of getting your home taken by CCP than any Taiwanese living in Taiwan. Dude, be concerned with matters that affect YOU.
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@DccAnh Like I said, you have no clue. KMT leaving Taiwan is our wish too. Because KMT is pro-China, cares only about mainland and doesn’t give a shet about Taiwan. The “separatists” you all hate are those who were here before RoC was here.
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中國人被中共打死的幾率比台灣人大幾千萬倍。擔心你跟你的家人吧。
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It's invasion. Taiwan was not part of RoC when RoC was founded in 1911. Taiwan was not part of PRC when PRC was founded in 1949. PRC has never governed Taiwan, ever.
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We aren't interested in mainland China. Chinese, PRC, CCP, can have it. Even India can have it. We don't care.
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How is that "coming to its senses"? That's regressing back to authoritarian. Our politicians are elected to serve us. We are NOT regressing back to authoritarian, so, Taiwan governed under CCP via treaty is never going to happen.
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@ratulmasfiq7250 The odds of you getting kicked out of your own home by CCP is 1,000,000X higher than CCP doing the same to me. Not only have you not been paying attention to global economics, you also haven’t been paying attention to your own well-being.
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真正的類比,是美國在北美大陸推翻大英帝國後,自稱自己就因此繼承了大英帝國,是新大英帝國美國,大英帝國曾經有過的所有領土,包括北美大陸,新加波,香港,印度,蘇格蘭,跟英國本島,都是美國領土。是大英帝國弱了才失去很多領土,現在新大英帝國的美國強了,就要全收回來。
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@护花铃 中共在成為"新中國"之前曾經是哪個朝代的政府嗎?
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@护花铃 如果,美國在北美大陸推翻大英帝國後,自稱自己就因此繼承了大英帝國,美國就是是新大英帝國,所以大英帝國曾經有過的所有領土,包括北美大陸,新加波,香港,印度,蘇格蘭,跟英國本島,都是美國領土。是大英帝國弱了才失去很多領土,現在大英帝國2.0的美國強了,就要全收回來。合理嗎?不合理。可是這就是中國的鳥邏輯。
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@护花铃 Q:台灣何時是中國的? 中國人:清朝 Q:如果要回推到清朝,清朝領土是交給了中華民國,不是馬列黃俄中共國 中國人:可是1949發生了,1949後的才是事實 Q:那 1949 後,台灣何時是中國的? 中國人:可是曾經有清朝! 你們不能要大陸就把地圖設在1949後,要台灣就把地圖設在1895前。照你們這鳥邏輯,義大利要不要以羅馬帝國的地圖拿回歐洲,蒙古要不要以成吉思汗的地圖要求中國跟歐洲把地吐出來給蒙古?
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@护花铃 對比中共在中國大陸推翻民國後,自稱是自己民國2.0,要拿回所有大清領土,很難懂?如果美國成立時不叫 U.S. of A, 叫 People's Republic of New British Empire,英國跟所有過去大英帝國的領土跟殖民地就是美國的了?
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@护花铃 英國統治過北美大陸,民國統治過中國大陸;北美大陸反抗英國政府獨立立國,中國大陸反抗民國政府獨立立國。英國島是美國的嗎?那民國所在的島是中國的嗎?沒有人說中國不能用軍事暴力搶地,中國要怎樣,中國自己決定,只是,要當流氓,就像個男人直接說要搶,不要在那裏扭扭捏捏講一堆歪理來合理化自己的土匪行爲。
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@护花铃 我的媽,你們真的被洗腦到很徹底。你要歷史哪個年代的地圖?你要清朝的,那中國大陸就是RoC的,不是PRC的,你要1949後的,那台灣就不是PRC的。很難懂?1911 中華民國成立時,沒有包括台灣;1949 中華人民共合國成立時,也沒有包括台灣。在這地球歷史裡,從哪年到哪年台灣是 PRC 的?有年份嗎?
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@护花铃 你的中文?中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國,中國。中華民國 ≠ 中華人民共和國。拜託寫清楚,你自己就會看清楚了。
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@护花铃 中國人「二戰後,台灣是中國(中華民國)管轄,那說台灣是中國(中華人民共和國)的有錯嗎」 你們要拗兩個都是中國?好啊,來。中國要求奧運禁中國國旗?中國配合美國的要求禁止出口晶片給中國來維持美中晶片技術合作?
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@护花铃 我的類比條件是一致的。你的類比才是完全不能比。在你的假設,美國卻實就在夏威夷了,而那個搶走美國大陸的判國共產組織成立的國家,已經不是美國了。那個共產國家不是美國的憲法,不是美國的制度,不是美國的信仰,也拋棄了美國立國宣言,爲什麼會是美國?
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@护花铃 你能不能專心點 甲:地球不是平的 乙:我今天真的遇到个大极品。你自己可能看懂你在说什么 ≠ 地球是平的
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@护花铃 你「45年之后台湾回归中国,然后台湾不就一直是中国的吗?」 那個「中國」是中華民國還是中華人民共和國?我再說一次,中國幹嘛要求所有國際場合禁用中國國旗?中國幹嘛禁止給中國晶片?賴清的是中國總統,所以是習近平的總統,有錯嗎?
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@护花铃 我用最簡單的說法。我去年在日本買渡假屋,我向日本申報時**必需**寫台灣人,國籍台灣,不能寫中國人,國籍中國,因爲中國沒有任何部門能提供日本文件證實我是我說的本人。全世界只有中國覺得台灣不是國家。不信?如果台灣今天“成爲國家”了,昨天跟明天的差別是什麼?差別只有一個,中共閉嘴了,沒有了。不需要什麼新政府新憲法新貨幣,不需要成立新國防,所有國家對台灣的外交政策也不必改,合作的繼續合作,沒合作的繼續討論。是中國入侵統治台灣才會破壞整個國際秩序跟國際經濟。所以,現況的事實,就是台灣是獨立的。台灣被中共吞了以後會變怎樣沒人知道,為什麼?因爲台灣是中共國的這事從來都沒存在過。
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@护花铃 你「45年之后台湾回归中国,然后台湾不就一直是中国的吗?」 那是中華民國。賴清德是你的總統嗎?中華民國≠中華人民共和國。懂?不知道爲什麼每次解釋這個都被刪。
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@护花铃 1945後,台灣讓給中華民國管轄內,關中華人民共和國什麼鳥事?何時中華民國等於中華人民共和國?再來,「台灣一直是中華民國的」這句是錯的。一來,清朝不是中華民國,再來,清朝只殖民台灣南部兩個港口的小鎮,其他地方是自治。再來,清朝之前的台灣就被葡萄牙殖民過,而第一個治理全台灣的是日本。才會只有台灣南部才有清朝的古蹟,可是全台灣都有日治時期的古蹟。最重要的是,這些關中華人民共和國什麼鳥事?
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@护花铃 中國大陸的近代歷史: 1911 民國成立 1920年代 蘇聯開始滲透民國試圖顛覆民國,引發了內戰 1940年代 抗日 + 內戰 1945 民國逃亡 1949 黃俄馬列中國成立,蘇聯成功顛覆民國在大陸建立了蘇聯的魁儡政府 台灣的近代歷史: 1895~1945 日治時期 1945 民國管轄 我們兩岸何時同國?你有聽過一個國家內戰了數十年,“輸的那方”一條命都沒傷到,也沒參戰嗎?
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@护花铃 美國大學規定,留學生創同學會,每個國家只能創一個。台灣同學會跟中國同學會是分開的。美國的移民申請,對他國都有各自不同的條件跟額度,台灣人跟中國人是分開,不同的條件,不在同一個額度。第三次台海危機,美國在兩岸中間的台灣海峽停了兩艘航母阻止中國用武力桿涉台灣大選。美國技術制裁中國,可是美企卻能跟台灣技術合作。那你說美國有沒有把台灣當一個國家?中國就像個巨嬰在地上滾著大哭說「台灣不可以是國家」大家懶得跟中國吵就讓中國繼續哭而已。
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@护花铃 我哪個沒回答了?是你沒回答。
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@护花铃 老兄,人家只是不認兩個中國。一個台灣,一個中國,是一個中國。兩個中國的爭議,是大陸領土,不是台灣。是老蔣不承認 PRC 合法性才會有兩個中國,因爲 PRC 跟 RoC 都自稱是中國**大陸**的合法政府。只要中華民國承認 PRC, 讓 PRC 獨立出去,一個台灣,一個中國,就沒有違反一個中國。人家不是不承認台灣是國家,是台灣目前在UN的官方立場還是老蔣的沒有改過,人家是不承認台灣領土包括整個中國大陸。
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@护花铃 你能不能專心點 甲:地球不是平的 乙:你初中可毕业了 ≠ 地球是平的 我物理系畢業後唸工業設計,可是不管我是唸什麼的,都不會改變台灣是國家的事實,也不會改變馬列主義就是注定會讓人民沒飯吃
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@护花铃 你回答啊, 如果美國認爲台灣是中國的,爲什麼在第三次台海危機在台灣還峽停了兩艘航母阻止中國用武力干涉台灣大選?爲什麼技術制裁中國的同時能跟台灣技術合作?爲什麼美國外交部公開發文更正中國外交部說美國的一中政策≠中國的一中原則?如果世界認爲台灣是中國的,爲什麼前蔡總統受邀去哥本哈根民主高峰會以台灣總統身份演講,邀她時,中國施壓要阻止,結果也沒取消?
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@护花铃 我何時說「地球平的不等于初中毕业」?????我說,在討論地球是不是平的,你討論對方的學歷,是能證實地球是或不是平的嗎?對方的學歷,會改變地球是或不是平的嗎?
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@护花铃 邏輯不通的是你。我的邏輯完全沒問題。
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@护花铃 笑歪。我們在討論台灣是不是國家,你討論到我學歷了,然後是我在轉移話題?再說一次, 甲:地球不是平的 乙:是不是发现自己逻辑不通,连忙转移话题了 ≠ 地球是平的 能不能專心一點,別扯東扯西的
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@护花铃 朝鮮戰的時候,南北韓是同一個國家嗎?那美國協助南韓抵抗鄰國入侵,是介入兩個國家的糾紛,有問題嗎?如果台灣是中國的,美國航母是怎麼在中國的抗議下進入中國海域的?
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@护花铃 我的媽,拜登說****美國****不支持台獨,台灣的未來由****台灣人民****決定。再認真聽一次。他的意思是在試圖改變現狀的是中國,不是美國。他在澄清美國沒有在推動台灣人民反抗中國,台灣要怎樣台灣人民會自己決定,台海臨戰局勢是中國想併吞台灣的問題,不是美國在分裂中國的問題,懂?拜登何時說過他支持中國併吞台灣?他不是也說了美國不會接受中國用武力併吞台灣,你怎麼就漏了?
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@护花铃 又是聯合國。來, - 1971後,聯合國才承認中華人民共和國,請問中華人民共和國在1949到1971是不是國家?中華人民共和國在去年的國慶是慶祝第幾年? - 聯合國是二戰後才成立的,古埃及,古日本,1911的中華民國,古義大利,都沒有聯合國的存在能承認,那些是不是國家?
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@护花铃 我再用更簡單的說法。中共要搶馬雲就搶,要搶你的資產也隨時能搶,沒理由的把你的小孩丟進牢裡,你也沒辦法,可是中共完全動不到我。我們是在同一個國家嗎?
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@护花铃 我的媽,國家這概念是在 UN 出現之就有了,所以是不是國家關 UN 什麼事?很難懂?中華民國不是政府,是國家,而在民國民主化前,政府是國民黨。中華人民共和國不是政府,是國家,政府是中共。你還是沒有回答我中華人民共和國從 49 到 71 是不是國家。你就回答是或不是。
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@护花铃 美國沒有說過台灣不能獨立。從來都沒有說過。美國也沒有說過反對台灣獨立。從來都沒有說過。美國也沒有說過台灣不是獨立的。從來沒有說過。美國也沒有說過不接受台灣獨立。從來都沒有說過。美國是說美國沒有任何支持台灣宣佈獨立的計劃,意思是美國不介入,不要再說是美國在改變現狀,在改變現狀的是中國。美國倒是天天說**反對**中國用武力併吞台灣。
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@护花铃 看來你完全不知道毛澤東是公開支持台灣獨立的。在老毛年代,台灣獨立成立新國家,等於台灣人民幫他滅了他最恨的國民黨跟中華民國。才會兩蔣相信了錯誤情報,認為那些在爭取民主的台灣人的後台是中共,早期台獨份子跟民運人士都是以串共罪判死刑的。
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@护花铃 我何事害拍你的回覆了? 我再重覆第N次, 甲說「地球不是平的」 乙說「你不能害怕回复,说不过我,说不过别人,就不要跟人杠什么不去反思下是不是自己的认知错了,哇啦哇啦的」 有等於地球就是平的嗎?扯東扯西,能不能專心在議題上。
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@护花铃 台灣獨立,是台灣從**中華民國**獨立出去,讓中華民國走入歷史。跟中華人民共和國沒半點鳥關係。在那之前,中華民國跟中華人民共和國一様是兩個國家,互不隸屬。
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@护花铃 「中国人不打中国人」???? 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 內戰,土地改革,文革,64,是什麼?
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@护花铃 中國人不打中國人?哈哈哈哈哈 …. 內戰、鬥地主、文革、六四,是什麼?
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@护花铃 在裝糊塗的是你。到現在都沒回答中華人民共和國從1949~1970是不是國家。幫你回答。是。我們兩個都知道是。這不就說明了是不是國家跟聯合國說什麼根本沒關聯。
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@护花铃 中共很壞?檢舉你了,祝你好運。
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Losers get nothing, like how China's economy is now collapsing. Taiwan does not belong to KMT. KMT is slowly going obsolete in Taiwan. Chiang Kai Shek did NOT want to "reunite" Taiwan and mainland. He wanted to RECLAIM mainland. He didn't care about Taiwan. Taiwan, was just a pit-stop for him to rebuild his military power. His initial plan was to rebuild on Philippines islands. His talk with Philippines failed, so he settled for Taiwan. He refused to acknowledge legitimacy of PRC. While Mao openly advocated for Taiwan's independence because that's the same as Taiwanese wiping KMT from the face of this Earth, getting rid of his arch enemy. You are spewing nonsense.
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@Mishowhbk Was Mao sympathetic towards Chinese landlords he massacred during landlord purge and tens of millions of Chinese he starved to death during Great Leap Forward?
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We aren't in 16th century anymore. It's 2024. It's nations not interested in building global economy in win-win partnership, will get nothing. Nations stuck on pre-WWII mentality of expansionism and dreams of an empire, will get nothing. We are in an era where strong economy is what builds strong nations. Even U.S.'s military might's purpose is to protect U.S.'s economic interests. Denmark, Singapore, gets a small piece of land, but their citizens live far more comfortable lives than Chinese living in China.
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Are you calling Xi and Putin fascists? Reported.
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@steventruong9124 Chiang Kai Shek insisted PRC is not a country. Chiang Kai Shek insisted post WWII China is just a bunch of communist bandits holding RoC's land under siege. In Chiang Kai Shek's eyes, CCP committed treason which can never be forgiven. Chiang Kai Shek also stated the day UN gave PRC a seat in UN, is the day UN will begin to rot. Are you sure you know Chiang Kai Shek?
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@SandyMMMM Let's just assume Taiwan "became an independent country" today. What's the ONE AND ONLY difference between yesterday and tomorrow? CCP finally shut up. There's no other difference. Real issue with "Taiwan's status", is CCP won't shut up spewing lies.
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@steventruong9124 Chiang Kai Shek insisted PRC is NOT a country. You don't know Chiang Kai Shek.
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@steventruong9124 蔣中正「共黨不僅無信義,且無人格,誠禽獸之不若矣」 Want more of Chiang Kai Shek?
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@mirage2154 Btw, a huge portion of those troops sent to Korean War were DELIBERATELY ill equipped for the extreme conditions. They were Nationalists who didn’t want to follow KMT to Taiwan and surrendered to Communists to stay in China. Mao didn’t trust them and want them dead.
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@yzy8638 Nukes closest to China’s borders are Putin’s nukes. Yet, we don’t see anti-Russia sentiment in China. Roman Empire? We aren’t in 500BC. Americans believe imperialism is destined for failure. It was Americans that took down British Empire. Villain of Star Wars was imperialism. Post WWII, we’ve learnt what strengthens nations is building strong economy. Denmark is not an empire. Singapore is tiny. But their citizens’ quality of life is far better than Chinese who live in a big country. We are in 2024. It’s about economy. Imperialism is outdated. Even U.S. troops stationed around the world is to ensure stability of global economy. Only Xi and Putin still have dreams of Empire.
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@yzy8638 Don't know why my comments were deleted. I'll make it short. Star Wars' villain is imperialism. Heroes were the one who blew up imperial forces. Americans believe any dreams of empire are destined to fail. It's strong economy that builds strong nations. Nukes closest to China's borders are Russia's nukes.
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@yzy8638 Nukes closest to China's borders are Russia's nukes.
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