Comments by "林子倫" (@zilun) on "肺炎疫情：喪母男子直斥政府「當我們傻子」世衛盛讚中國防疫－ BBC News 中文" video.

@wo349394780 隱滿疫情讓疫情失控，就是沒控制疫情。你家廚房火燒了，你為了面子不跟社區講，不把火撲滅，等到燒到別人家了，才認了，算是控制了？1/5 中央就知道已經完全失控了，怕影響過年把真相壓著，1/18武漢還辦了「萬家宴」叫控制了疫情？
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@thomasbobhuang311 ??? 1/5 是你家習大大自己說的
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@thomasbobhuang311 嗯，你英文很好哦？那 ad hominems aren't valid arguments 聽過沒有？中共黨刊《求是》是自媒體沒錯，可是不是台灣的。
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@johncui66 華春瑩在 2/3 記者會說 1/3 起，共30次向美方通報疫情信息和防控措施。兩國疾控中心就疫情相關情況多次進行溝通。抱怨美國政府迄今未向中方提供任何實質性幫助。沒失控是叫美國提供幫助幹嘛？《求是》發布習近平 2/3 在中共中央政治局常委會會議的講話，提到他早於 1/7 就對疫情防控工作提出要求，強調中央對疫情形勢判斷準確，工作部署及時，措施有效。啊不是話都你們自己說溜嘴的嗎？
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@thomasbobhuang311 你沒聽懂我的諷刺，《求是》是中共的黨刊，中國共産黨的自媒體。而那編其實是在誇習大大 1/7 就開始親自控制疫情，在暗示是地方政府的錯。
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@thomasbobhuang311 我沒有在跟你討論是中央還是地方的的錯。是你們在質疑我說中共早在 1/5 左右就知道疫情失控。那我說的有錯嗎？1/3 向美國求助，1/7 習近平要武漢的疫情控制下來，都是中共自己的官方說法，那不是 1/5 左右就知道疫情失控？
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@Zoe-ss6vr Still selling that flu narrative, eh? Do medical staff die from treating flu patients? According to Ben Cowling, more than 100,000 Chinese died from flu last flu season. No one needed to be alarmed because most who died from flu are the sick and the old with existing long term health issues. Fatality rate of flu is less than 0.1%. This new virus is said to have fatality rate of 2%, but deaths to recovered is 1 to 10, with critical to mild being 1 to 5. So, assuming we'll save half of all in critical conditions, fatality rate is closer to 10%. That's playing Russian Roulette with a 10 round pistol. So, this is not 'just a flu'.
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@anrenchen556 Taiwan did nothing? Taiwan's massive work to strengthen disease control and public health started 17 years ago after lessons learnt from SARS. We never stopped. It's China that did nothing for 17 freakin' years. Our vice president is an epidemiologist from Johns Hopkins. But let's not get into that, let's just look at one of many emergency responses. President Tsai ramped up Taiwan's mask production capacity from 4 million a day to 10 million a day to reinforce medical staff. A 6-months task to be completed within a month, by end of February. Thanks to producers locking in resources around the globe to create 60+ assembly lines the very second President Tsai called them up for meeting. Now, why are those parts still available? Shouldn't CCP have grabbed them all up a full month before Taiwan did? Tsai's administration is now working to ramp up to 14 million a day. Foxconn's founder had to start a mask production plant in Japan to produce 2 million a day just so Foxconn's workers in China can resume work. While CCP makes propaganda videos of dancing and kissing in hospitals on Valentine's Day.
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@anrenchen556 Let's do one short one of DDP vs CCP. President Tsai just cancelled large scale ceremony for her inauguration in May. What was Beijing doing only days *after* Wuhan's lockdown? Extravagant 'Spring Night' fest celebration broadcasted to impress everyone.
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@anrenchen556 Another discussion of what Taiwan did in response. Moved hospitals' pharmacy department to outdoor tents to reduce traffic in hospitals. Create separate line of movement for patients with travel history in China. Double up workforce to keep public space clean and sanitized with even higher frequency. Public health announcements to keep reminding citizens that keeping hands clean, not touching our face, and personal hygiene is just as important as wearing masks, if not more. Have a comprehensive protocol for travelers entering Taiwan to self-quaratine and report to CDC if having symptoms. Keeping tap of health status of all human network of all currently infected. Disease control center holds regular hour-long press conference to update public on our status, measures taken and plans moving forward. What had CCP done? Propaganda video of robots in hospitals while in reality hospitals are cramped to a point that people are getting infected inside hospitals. Propaganda videos of medical staff kissing and hugging after working so hard to barely see each other, when in reality they can't be provided with proper protection and are dying from infections. CCP is a farce.
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@anrenchen556 All of Taiwan's food court area provide sinks to wash our hands with disinfectant soap, without needing to go into restrooms. What did China install? Face recognition computer to prevent people from taking toilet rolls from restroom. Priorities. Are those computers really cheaper than toilet rolls? Or are manufacturers of those useless tech in bed with local officials to steal tax payers' money? China, upon catching on being mocked for restrooms not up to sanitary standard, started making propaganda "luxury toilets" with large space and coffee dispenser. Who the heck wants to drink coffee in a toilet? I could have just ordered one at Starbucks and then take it with me into its restroom to drink. Why can't China just be normal and do what's proven to work. It's always gimmicky junk trying to prove China is ahead of everyone else.
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@johncui66 只是通報，那跟“從自 1/3 都沒提供任何實質性幫助“有什麼關系？掌控中，需要什麼實質性幫助？？重點是，中央在1/5 就知道疫情很嚴重了。習大大都自稱 1/7 親自指揮了。武漢 40+個人感冒，勞動到這麼大動員？好，那 1/5 到封城之間，就算沒跟人民講疫情我們跳過不談，中央做了什麼阻止擴散？零。有找借口取消大型聚會嗎？有支援當地醫護人員嗎？有把醫院分開成沒被感染的跟被感染的處理嗎？沒有啊。都在專心維穩而已。
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@thomasbobhuang311 The Economist 喔？ “ …greatest uncertainty is how many cases have gone unrecorded. Primary health care is rudimentary in China and some of the ill either avoided or were turned away from busy hospitals. Many more may have such mild symptoms that they do not realise they have the disease. Modelling by academics in Hong Kong suggests that, as of January 25th, tens of thousands of people have already been infected and that the epidemic will peak in a few months’ time. If so, the virus is more widespread than thought, and hence will be harder to contain within China.” “Many experts praise China’s efforts. Certainly, its scientists have coped better with the Wuhan virus than they did with SARS in 2003… China’s politicians come off less well. They left alone the cramped markets filled with wild animals that spawned SARS. With the new virus, local officials in Wuhan first played down the science and then, when the disease had taken hold, enacted the draconian quarantine fully eight hours after announcing it, allowing perhaps 1 million potentially infectious people to leave the city first.” - The Economist 2020.2.1 你給我一個理由中國的人民健保還是 rudimentary。中共花在監控人民的費用比國防預算高，然後人民健保是 rudimentary，你覺得合理嗎？台灣花在監控人民的費用是零。公衛跟醫療是沒辦法在幾個月內趕出來的。那是要長期一步一腳印邊走邊跌拚出來的。10天內蓋幾千個負壓隔離病房？每個隔離病房需要近30個醫護人員，人哪裡來？連現有醫院的醫護人員跟資員都不足了。啊不就又只是在浪費時間做宣傳轉移焦點？“ ...left alone the cramped markets filled with wild animals that spawned SARS” 不就等於 17年什麼事都沒做？
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@anrenchen556 I was addressing your quote, "Especially Taiwan government, it just grab this opportunity and happily hit mainland China when Beijing is down rather than control the disease." When WHO declares it a pandemic, all countries should raise their disease control readiness to level 1, meaning, each and every nation should dedicate all available resources to control disease. Taiwan simply raised it ahead of WHO just as Taiwan restricted flights ahead of WHO's advice. I don't see anything wrong with it. This type of disease control authority usually gets handed over to higher executive branch supervising current team, but our president's decision was to have current leadership resume his team's work. What does that tell you? There's absolute trust in current team's performance. Yes, we are bracing for impact as community spread may come any day now simply because the world isn't going to stop turning. But we are doing well because we had being building up a strong defense against potential outbreak since 2003 after SARS.
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Thomas Bob Huang 你知道什麼是監控嗎？政權對個人設立檔案追踨。台灣沒有因為台灣跟本沒有那個資源。政府要也不會被人民核準，哪來的經費？美國 NSA 有是因為美國境內很多 terrorist cell，他們越權監控人民也會被人民罵好嗎。台灣連蔡衍明都隨他胡搞了，還那來的監控。
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Thomas Bob Huang 還在野味？你去搞清楚為什麼一個 Johns Hopkins 的 epidemiologist 是現任的台灣副總統，再來聊。
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Thomas Bob Huang 蔡英文都在昨天的 228 要求國安把戒嚴期白色恐怖的文件在一個月內解密了，這已經談很久了。看起來像是台灣還要倒退回去嗎？
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@bobzbr1693 南韓有假裝沒事，叫韓國人繼續來個「萬家宴」嗎？還是馬上終止群聚活動？三星才一個員工確診，全廠停工。中國之前有做到嗎？等習近平要你們開工，又再二度隱匿疫情，你們就知道你們的命不值錢了。現在做的假數字就是要你們接受風險回去"拼經濟"了。
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