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  154.  @realname4401  you’re stating inaccurate things to defend China and yet you have issues that quoted stats from research and from respectable YouTuber channels like the economist at Money and Macro? And the Chinese gdp numbers are inflated and some estimates do argue the true gdp is less than 50% of official numbers. I did state it was a hard fact that’s why I literally gave you the official numbers from your CCP and the extreme end of the estimate. Or what about the NBER (national Bureau of economic research) saying that their research indicates chinas annual gdp growth is exaggerated 1.8% pts between 2010-2016? So let’s say it was 1.8% pts a year inflated from 1980 to 2020. Assuming official reported annual growth was 10% but the estimate is saying 8.2%, after 40 years the estimated gdp would be about 50% of the Chinaofficial numbers. And the research I was pointing to when saying the estimate might be as low as 40% of reported was from the university of Chicago using night time lighting. The study didn’t focus on China but found “The results suggest that autocracies overstate yearly GDP growth by approximately 35%.” And found China to be the second worse between what their data shows and what is reported…only Myanamar was worse. In addition, Chinas government has admitted the gdp figures china reports is man made. from Reuters a few years ago: - China’s GDP figures are “man-made” and therefore unreliable, the man who is expected to be the country’s next head of government said in 2007, according to U.S. diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks.
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  298.  @shuruiliu5713  " of course Chinese government made some bad decision before" Would you say the concentration camps and genocide in Xijiang are bad decisions? Just a litmus test. " But building HSR is not one of bad decisions" Why, Because you said so? HSR is good - but why does EVERY ROUTE need to be good? This is the problem with you and many here -- suggesting no HSR route can be bad. China has $1 trillion in debt and RAPIDLY rising on HSR despite having many routes that are very profitable. That means the routes that are not profitable are losing LOTS of money, well in excess of $1 trillion. THE VIDEO EVEN DISCUSSED HOW CHINA BUILT THE FASTEST HSR LINES THAT ARE NEARLY TWICE THE COST OF A LITTLE SLOWER HSR. Money is limited and there are much better things to spend money on than on luxury services like HSR for routes that loose lots of money. They could build more affordable housing, more traditional rail, or just slower HSR. >Traditional rail is also built at the same time. In my province, shandong province. they plan to build 200km traditional rail for cargo freight this year. Exactly, they could have already built all that if China wasn't trying to impress the world by building the most expensive fastest HSR to routes that don't need it. Basically, your whole argument relies on this: 1. there is no such thing as bad HSR decisions so long as it's built 2. It's always best to keep building more and more of the fastest HSR regardless if there is demand or a much less expensive slower HSR. 3. There can be NOTHING else that China can spend money on other than the fastest HSR.
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  351.  @realname4401  "Then the transition will be to cheap moderately skilled labor." Saying that doesn't mean it will happen successfully enough to get China to be anywhere near on par with Japan, South Korea or Western Europe let alone the US which is even higher GDP per capita than all of those. Are you really going to ignore all the data already showing China's GDP growth are now projecting to be at most about 4% annual growth for the rest of the decade? " Subsidies are labor costs if you think about it. The money is still coming from somewhere" Yeah, a rather fast growing total debt to GDP ratio is higher than the US already!! I'm referring to total debt from government debt to corporate debt to personal debt. China uses state owned businesses and the debt from individuals that pay for homes (which was the biggest contributor to GDP) for much of it's debt but it's still debt in the society. Unlike the US, China's currency is not the main reserve currency in the world so they cannot run as much debt as the US. These debts means fewer investments for things that will grow the economy the best. In fact, new debt being taken on by China is having a much smaller return in investment than just 4 or 5 years ago.. To go over some of those debt numbers, the household debt to household income ratio in China is higher than the US and has been higher since about 216. The US ratio has been falling steadily from 2007ish to 2019 (last year of the report) while China has been growing steadily from 2008 to 2019. China's at about 125% in 2019 to the US around 100%.. There's also data on "private debt / gdp" which I believe is all debt not from the government (individuals and businesses) and it's more of the same. US has been falling since a out 2008 and was around 150% in 2019 or 2020. China has been growing at a fast rate with their private debt /gdp ratio hitting around 217% in 2019. Then they have a a total debt to GDP ratio comparison. This data is from Money & Macro and they discussed how China's GDP is likely highly overestimated and true GDP might be around 40-60% of the Chinese official state provided GDP. But they point out that even using China's official GDP figures, they already are close to 300% total Debt to GDP ratio, roughly where the US is at. And using the estimated GDP, China's Debt to GDP ration is up to 700%!! So yes, those subsidies are coming from somewhere and it's debt. Debt that is rising and already higher than the US by some metrics when compared to GDP and growing fast.
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  353.  @2KSnSLifestyle  I don't even know what your trying to argue. It seems like you are trying to blindly defend China without even knowing what I had argued. All my arguments have been to point out that China's GDP growth is slowing down and projected to be 3-3.5% by 2030 and under 3% by 2040. I'm also pointing out that other countries are stepping up and taking some of the lost growth of China. These are simple facts. But instead, you just went on some tangent just trying to defend China by raising points that don't prove anything I said was wrong and some of what you raised is inaccurate or misleading or just huge assumptions on your behalf. For example "All OPEC countries have joined the BRI and allow China to buy oil in RMB". That's not remotely true. Some countries in OPEC are considering it -- but it hasn't happened. Saudi Arabia & Iran? Great, all it did was just say those two will talk. It's a minor accomplishment. The only big news there is that China was involved but the actual agreement was not a big deal. And Russia? You mean China's close allies where both China and Russia are a threat to the world? And the bank failures in the west? High interest? Sure, but China had a failure in Evergrande and the housing market is about to collapse so China is spending large amounts of money trying to prevent a horrible crash. All of this is happening as many Chinese are moving their money out of China due to concerns with Xi's policies. Foreign investments into China are dropping as well for the same reason. And the demographic crisis means China is seeing a smaller and smaller work force which is why most economist, banks and other financial experts are estimating China's GDP growth will be close to 3% in just 7 years and falling more after thus meaning China will never get near Japan or South Korea on per capita wealth and incomes.
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  479. @agapp11able - Most new HSR lines in China have witnessed a sharp decline in their “transportation density”. Measured in passenger-kilometres, it is an indicator that projects the line’s operating efficiency in terms of annual average transport volume per kilometre. For example, while the 1,318-kilometre Beijing-Shanghai HSR corridor’s transportation density was 48 million passenger-kilometres in 2015 and continues to be high, the 1,776-kilometre Lanzhou-Urumqi line has only 2.3 million passenger-kilometres of transportation density. China’s overall transportation density of HSR was 17 million passenger-kilometres in 2015, while it was 34 million passenger-kilometres for Japan’s Shinkansen in the same year. - - The craze for HSR has made China neglect the construction of conventional systems, adversely affecting the balance of the country’s logistics mix. As a result, rail has consistently trailed road and water freight transport for the past several years. This has led to growing investments in polluting freight road trucks and trailers, offsetting the environmental gains resulting from HSR. - In the past few years, mega borrowings by provincial governments to monetise its HSR lines have created a debt trap, which is now pinching the coffers of the state-owned CRC. CRC’s financial woes started nearly four years ago when more than 60 percent of the HSR operators each lost a minimum of US $100 million in 2018. That year, the least profitable operator in Chengdu reported net loss of US $1.8 billion. In the same year, transport economists in China had predicted an impending debt crisis for the country’s HSR that was dependent on “unsustainable government subsidies with many lines incapable of repaying the interest on their debt, let alone principal”, and were caught in a vicious cycle of “raising new debt to pay off old debt”. Consequently, since 2015, CRC’s interest payments have been significantly higher than its operating profits, shrinking its bottom line.
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  497. ​@agapp11able WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!" - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  504. @agapp11able Basically, these are the points: 1. You only trust the CCP and will not accept anything from any western country be it an humanatarian orginization or legit news org. However, you will accept anything that is from China or supports China. 2.. Aspi identified likely camps and you said they are just schools and drug rehab facilities. You have refused to actually provide a source.. You just consistently saying there are didn’t make it true. Give a source 3. You pointed to the Pichan Facility #4 and said that it's not a detenton facility simply for being near apartments even though the CCP has allowed BBC to visit a low security camp and it was near apartment buildings. In the same video, the bbc attempted to go to another facility in town which was also near apartments but the CCP officials kicked out the BBC from the area and stopped them from filming. 4. ASPI said they identified 380+ very likely facilities. You have only been able to directly point to one and your assumptions on it are wrong (see #3) but yet even if that wasn't a camp, you believe that if you find one facility they were wrong with it means they are wrong with all the remaining 380ish. ASPI has two ratings – ‘likely’ and ‘confirmed’. Even if one or two are wrong, it does not mean that most of the rest are wrong. If they were, why don’t you have evidence on all 380 but instead try to claim about 3 or 4 are wrong? 5. . Asked to make major criticism of the CCP that the CCP hasn’t already acknowledged --- All you did was say “they banned private tutors and healthcare isn’t universal”. You are unable to Give a serious criticism 6. Lied that I said that all 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang were sent to the camps. Me saying 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang doesn’t mean I’m saying all 12 million are or were in camps. 7. Said that Corporations never lie that they use forced labor or sweat shop labor and also argued that since Skechers said their two facilities in China didn't have forced labor, it means China doesn't have any forced labor. 8. Lied and that ASPI had said that there are two million in the camps at this exact moment. Unable to provide a source. 9. Lied that Amnesty International with funded by the CIA with CIA money. It was actually founded by Peter Benenson and Eric Baker and it does not accept donations from governments or governmental organizations. 10. Lied that ASPI funding from Australian governments is only 37%. 11. You literally used CCP 100% controlled news as your sources while you reject anything from the west for whatever reason you can think of. The CCP video also included ‘evidence’ from CCP employee Einar Tangen - Economic and Political Affairs Commentator CCTV, CGTN, CRI, China.org.cn, Xinhua. 12. You said that Marlabashi Detention center no 1 was in fact a school. Because the Chinese state media source you used cut to a classroom that could be located anywhere. If it was just a school, there would be tons of videos of the school being a school. Kids getting out of class, playing inside those walls, etc. But you won’t provide any such video and just belive the CCP when they say the classroom they showed was indeed inside the facility.
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  510. @agapp11able @agapp11able Basically, these are the points: 1. You only trust the CCP and will not accept anything from any western country be it an humanitarian organization or legit news org. However, you will accept anything that is from China or supports China. 2.. Aspi identified likely camps and you said they are just schools and drug rehab facilities. You have refused to actually provide a source.. You just consistently saying there are didn’t make it true. Give a source 3. You pointed to the Pichan Facility #4 and said that it's not a detention facility simply for being near apartments even though the CCP has allowed BBC to visit a low security camp and it was near apartment buildings. In the same video, the bbc attempted to go to another facility in town which was also near apartments but the CCP officials kicked out the BBC from the area and stopped them from filming. 4. ASPI said they identified 380+ very likely facilities. You have only been able to directly point to one and your assumptions on it are wrong (see #3) but yet even if that wasn't a camp, you believe that if you find one facility they were wrong with it means they are wrong with all the remaining 380ish. ASPI has two ratings – ‘likely’ and ‘confirmed’. Even if one or two are wrong, it does not mean that most of the rest are wrong. If they were, why don’t you have evidence on all 380 but instead try to claim about 3 or 4 are wrong? 5. . Asked to make major criticism of the CCP that the CCP hasn’t already acknowledged --- All you did was say “they banned private tutors and healthcare isn’t universal”. You are unable to Give a serious criticism 6. Lied that I said that all 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang were sent to the camps. Me saying 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang doesn’t mean I’m saying all 12 million are or were in camps. 7. Said that Corporations never lie that they use forced labor or sweat shop labor and also argued that since Skechers said their two facilities in China didn't have forced labor, it means China doesn't have any forced labor. 8. Lied and that ASPI had said that there are two million in the camps at this exact moment. Unable to provide a source. 9. Lied that Amnesty International with funded by the CIA with CIA money. It was actually founded by Peter Benenson and Eric Baker and it does not accept donations from governments or governmental organizations. 10. Lied that ASPI funding from Australian governments is only 37%. 11. You literally used CCP 100% controlled news as your sources while you reject anything from the west for whatever reason you can think of. The CCP video also included ‘evidence’ from CCP employee Einar Tangen - Economic and Political Affairs Commentator CCTV, CGTN, CRI, China.org.cn, Xinhua. 12. You said that Marlabashi Detention center no 1 was in fact a school. Because the Chinese state media source you used cut to a classroom that could be located anywhere. If it was just a school, there would be tons of videos of the school being a school. Kids getting out of class, playing inside those walls, etc. But you won’t provide any such video and just belive the CCP when they say the classroom they showed was indeed inside the facility.
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  513. @agapp11able WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!" - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  516. @agapp11able Basically, these are the points: 1. You only trust the CCP and will not accept anything from any western country be it an humanitarian organization or legit news org. However, you will accept anything that is from China or supports China. 2.. Aspi identified likely camps and you said they are just schools and drug rehab facilities. You have refused to actually provide a source.. You just consistently saying there are didn’t make it true. Give a source 3. You pointed to the Pichan Facility #4 and said that it's not a detention facility simply for being near apartments even though the CCP has allowed BBC to visit a low security camp and it was near apartment buildings. In the same video, the bbc attempted to go to another facility in town which was also near apartments but the CCP officials kicked out the BBC from the area and stopped them from filming. 4. ASPI said they identified 380+ very likely facilities. You have only been able to directly point to one and your assumptions on it are wrong (see #3) but yet even if that wasn't a camp, you believe that if you find one facility they were wrong with it means they are wrong with all the remaining 380ish. ASPI has two ratings – ‘likely’ and ‘confirmed’. Even if one or two are wrong, it does not mean that most of the rest are wrong. If they were, why don’t you have evidence on all 380 but instead try to claim about 3 or 4 are wrong? 5. . Asked to make major criticism of the CCP that the CCP hasn’t already acknowledged --- All you did was say “they banned private tutors and healthcare isn’t universal”. You are unable to Give a serious criticism 6. Lied that I said that all 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang were sent to the camps. Me saying 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang doesn’t mean I’m saying all 12 million are or were in camps. 7. Said that Corporations never lie that they use forced labor or sweat shop labor and also argued that since Skechers said their two facilities in China didn't have forced labor, it means China doesn't have any forced labor. 8. Lied and that ASPI had said that there are two million in the camps at this exact moment. Unable to provide a source. 9. Lied that Amnesty International with funded by the CIA with CIA money. It was actually founded by Peter Benenson and Eric Baker and it does not accept donations from governments or governmental organizations. 10. Lied that ASPI funding from Australian governments is only 37%. 11. You literally used CCP 100% controlled news as your sources while you reject anything from the west for whatever reason you can think of. The CCP video also included ‘evidence’ from CCP employee Einar Tangen - Economic and Political Affairs Commentator CCTV, CGTN, CRI, China.org.cn, Xinhua. 12. You said that Marlabashi Detention center no 1 was in fact a school. Because the Chinese state media source you used cut to a classroom that could be located anywhere. If it was just a school, there would be tons of videos of the school being a school. Kids getting out of class, playing inside those walls, etc. But you won’t provide any such video and just belive the CCP when they say the classroom they showed was indeed inside the facility.
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  569.  @fahadahaf  "I couldn't find any official IMF source that says this, but I'll take your word for it." There are literally many research reports and investigations in to this. Before I read the rest, this already tells me you have ignored facts your whole life when it comes to China. "Your original argument was about the US being the biggest consumer market, unless you are going to argue that GDP is a measure of how big a consumer market is; I really don't know why you are explaining PPP to me" I didn't bring up PPP. I was explaining to someone else why PPP doesn't mean much when it comes to international trade. >Consumption Markets are usually compared using HFCE, which uses nominal figures that don't account for differing prices. Adjusting for PPP, China is the biggest consumer market. And there it goes again. Not able to understand PPP. PPP is only good for domestic comparisons. When it comes to trade, oil at $80 a barrel will sell at $80 to everyone. Doesn't matter what your PPP is, you will have to pay $80. Is this something Fahad can understand? PPP comes into play more regarding domestic services and domestic manufacturing but not international trade. ELY5 (explain it like you're), lets say $1 = 10 yuan. 10 yuan can get you say 1 hour massage in China but $1 in the US gets you 5 minutes. That's where PPP is demonstrating that $1 worth of yuan goes farther than $1 in the US. But that consumer be it individual or business has to buy oil or some other good / resource, the price is the same for everyone. $1 worth of yuan gets you $1 worth of international goods. And since we are talking about consumer market for foreign goods & services, PPP has no place in such a discussion.
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  617. @agapp11able 1. so no source on your lie that China has most of the US debt? 2. No specifics of what ASPI got wrong in their report documenting cccl staging videos? 3. You accept Chinese state media but you refuse to accept ASPI because it’s funded by Australian government? 4. You lied that the aspi report is only words and has not pics/videos 5. You lied that you gave a source on china holding majority of US debt And you are upset people call you a CCP shill? 6. I gave you directed sources supporting that Japan has the most US debt of any country and even then, 2nd place China is just about 3-4% of total US debt. 7. You have argued that ASPI couldn't be trusted because they may have been wrong (your opinion) on 2 facilities out of 400 so they can't be trusted HOWEVER if CCP is wrong on a facility and caught staging videos, they can still be trusted!! And you wonder why people would think you are a CCP shill. LOL. 8. You lied that you gave as a source on the debt ‘Statista’ when I in fact gave you such a source from them and it proved China is 2nd among foreign owned debt and only 3-4% of the total US debt. I gave you the title of the Statista article “Major foreign holders of US treasury” and another source from investopeida while you refuse to provide the title or even quotes from the article. 9. As another source, you used The Grayzone. Mediabaisfactcheck has them as untrustworthy and far left and said of them “A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis” And you wonder why people think you are a CCP shill.
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  623. @agapp11able 1. so no source on your lie that China has most of the US debt? 2. No specifics of what ASPI got wrong in their report documenting cccl staging videos? 3. You accept Chinese state media but you refuse to accept ASPI because it’s funded by Australian government? 4. You lied that the aspi report is only words and has not pics/videos 5. You lied that you gave a source on china holding majority of US debt And you are upset people call you a CCP shill? 6. I gave you directed sources supporting that Japan has the most US debt of any country and even then, 2nd place China is just about 3-4% of total US debt. 7. You have argued that ASPI couldn't be trusted because they may have been wrong (your opinion) on 2 facilities out of 400 so they can't be trusted HOWEVER if CCP is wrong on a facility and caught staging videos, they can still be trusted!! And you wonder why people would think you are a CCP shill. LOL. 8. You lied that you gave as a source on the debt ‘Statista’ when I in fact gave you such a source from them and it proved China is 2nd among foreign owned debt and only 3-4% of the total US debt. I gave you the title of the Statista article “Major foreign holders of US treasury” and another source from investopeida while you refuse to provide the title or even quotes from the article. 9. As another source, you used The Grayzone. Mediabaisfactcheck has them as untrustworthy and far left and said of them “A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis” 10. You trust more a g/f that doctors up a video making it looked like you went to a strip club than a g/f that said she believes you went 400 times to strip club but in actuality it was just 396 times you went. And you wonder why people think you are a CCP shill.
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  626. @agapp11able 1. so no source on your lie that China has most of the US debt? 2. No specifics of what ASPI got wrong in their report documenting cccl staging videos? 3. You accept Chinese state media but you refuse to accept ASPI because it’s funded by Australian government? 4. You lied that the aspi report is only words and has not pics/videos 5. You lied that you gave a source on china holding majority of US debt And you are upset people call you a CCP shill? 6. I gave you directed sources supporting that Japan has the most US debt of any country and even then, 2nd place China is just about 3-4% of total US debt. 7. You have argued that ASPI couldn't be trusted because they may have been wrong (your opinion) on 2 facilities out of 400 so they can't be trusted HOWEVER if CCP is wrong on a facility and caught staging videos, they can still be trusted!! And you wonder why people would think you are a CCP shill. LOL. 8. You lied that you gave as a source on the debt ‘Statista’ when I in fact gave you such a source from them and it proved China is 2nd among foreign owned debt and only 3-4% of the total US debt. I gave you the title of the Statista article “Major foreign holders of US treasury” and another source from investopeida while you refuse to provide the title or even quotes from the article. 9. As another source, you used The Grayzone. Mediabaisfactcheck has them as untrustworthy and far left and said of them “A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis” 10. You trust more a g/f that doctors up a video making it looked like you went to a strip club than a g/f that said she believes you went 400 times to strip club but in actuality it was just 396 times you went. 11. You demand I answer over 20 questions (most already answered) of yours or else you consider me a bot while all I ask is you support your lies and hypocrisy or else you are a bot. And you wonder why people think you are a CCP shill.
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  627. @agapp11able Oh, there was another person, Bob Carr. He isn't senator but is a left wing retired politician who served as Premier of New South Wales from 1995 to 2005. Funny about that -- The Financial Review of Australia has an article about him titled "How Bob Carr became China's pawn" - In times past, Carr was not known for promoting or defending China's Communist Party (CCP) government. To the contrary, as Clive Hamilton notes, he was at one time publicly critical of Australia's pro-China lobby, and denounced CCP ideology as a "ludicrously outdated notion". All this changed with his appointment to head the Australia China Relations Institute at the University of Technology in Sydney in 2014. Since then he has come to personify the lobby he once attacked, lauding the achievements of Xi Jinping and condemning his critics. - ACRI has provided Carr with the public platform he lost with the end of his brief tenure as foreign minister and again he has a strong media presence. - In China it is unlikely that any program organiser would turn down the opportunity of including Bob Carr. In a country where the UN Declaration counts for little, few can speak their minds, and none are permitted to criticise their own government, Carr's willingness to lambast Australia's government and applaud China's has made him a media darling. If freedom of speech is at issue, then the things Carr says in China deserve to be aired more widely in Australia. Fundamental issues are indeed at stake. - Within Australia Carr is now known for speaking up on Beijing's behalf and talking down criticism of China as a relic of Cold War thinking. There are many possible triggers for this. Examples would be infrastructure purchases, extradition treaties, university issues, political donations, media coverage and allegations of foreign interference, all topics on which Carr has taken to the airwaves or the print media. The pattern is consistent, with Carr denying problems on the Chinese side while simultaneously criticising Australians who see problems, on the other.
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  629. @agapp11able ​ 1. so no source on your lie that China has most of the US debt? 2. No specifics of what ASPI got wrong in their report documenting cccl staging videos? 3. You accept Chinese state media but you refuse to accept ASPI because it’s funded by Australian government? 4. You lied that the aspi report is only words and has not pics/videos 5. You lied that you gave a source on china holding majority of US debt And you are upset people call you a CCP shill? 6. I gave you directed sources supporting that Japan has the most US debt of any country and even then, 2nd place China is just about 3-4% of total US debt. 7. You have argued that ASPI couldn't be trusted because they may have been wrong (your opinion) on 2 facilities out of 400 so they can't be trusted HOWEVER if CCP is wrong on a facility and caught staging videos, they can still be trusted!! And you wonder why people would think you are a CCP shill. LOL. 8. You lied that you gave as a source on the debt ‘Statista’ when I in fact gave you such a source from them and it proved China is 2nd among foreign owned debt and only 3-4% of the total US debt. I gave you the title of the Statista article “Major foreign holders of US treasury” and another source from investopeida while you refuse to provide the title or even quotes from the article. 9. As another source, you used The Grayzone. Mediabaisfactcheck has them as untrustworthy and far left and said of them “A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis” 10. You trust more a g/f that doctors up a video making it looked like you went to a strip club than a g/f that said she believes you went 400 times to strip club but in actuality it was just 396 times you went. 11. You demand I answer over 20 questions (most already answered) of yours or else you consider me a bot while all I ask is you support your lies and hypocrisy or else you are a bot. And you wonder why people think you are a CCP shill.
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  873. ​@agapp11able ​ Bascially, these are the points: 1. You only trust the CCP and will not accept anything from any western country be it an humanatarian orginization or legit news org. However, you will accept anything that is from China or supports China. 2.. Aspi identified likely camps and you said they are just schools and drug rehab facilities. You have refused to actually provide a source.. You just consistently saying there are didn’t make it true. Give a source 3. You pointed to the Pichan Facility #4 and said that it's not a detenton facility simply for being near apartments even though the CCP has allowed BBC to visit a low security camp and it was near apartment buildings. In the same video, the bbc attempted to go to another facility in town which was also near apartments but the CCP officials kicked out the BBC from the area and stopped them from filming. 4. ASPI said they identified 380+ very likely facilities. You have only been able to directly point to one and your assumptions on it are wrong (see #3) but yet even if that wasn't a camp, you believe that if you find one facility they were wrong with it means they are wrong with all the remaining 380ish. 5. . Asked to make major criticism of the CCP that the CCP hasn’t already acknowledged --- All you did was say “they banned private tutors and healthcare isn’t universal”. You are unable to Give a serious criticism 6. Lied that I said that all 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang were sent to the camps. Me saying 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang doesn’t mean I’m saying all 12 million are or were in camps. 7. Said that Corporations never lie that they use forced labor or sweat shop labor and also argued that since Skechers said their two facilities in China didn't have forced labor, it means China doesn't have any forced labor. 8. Lied and that ASPI had said that there are two million in the camps at this exact moment. Unable to provide a source.
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  885. @agapp11able WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!". And you have literally just done -- you posted a CCP news video as your source with much of the same practices. Article: - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  886. @agapp11able @agapp11able Bascially, these are the points: 1. You only trust the CCP and will not accept anything from any western country be it an humanatarian orginization or legit news org. However, you will accept anything that is from China or supports China. 2.. Aspi identified likely camps and you said they are just schools and drug rehab facilities. You have refused to actually provide a source.. You just consistently saying there are didn’t make it true. Give a source 3. You pointed to the Pichan Facility #4 and said that it's not a detenton facility simply for being near apartments even though the CCP has allowed BBC to visit a low security camp and it was near apartment buildings. In the same video, the bbc attempted to go to another facility in town which was also near apartments but the CCP officials kicked out the BBC from the area and stopped them from filming. 4. ASPI said they identified 380+ very likely facilities. You have only been able to directly point to one and your assumptions on it are wrong (see #3) but yet even if that wasn't a camp, you believe that if you find one facility they were wrong with it means they are wrong with all the remaining 380ish. ASPI has two ratings – ‘likely’ and ‘confirmed’. Even if one or two are wrong, it does not mean that most of the rest are wrong. If they were, why don’t you have evidence on all 380 but instead try to claim about 3 or 4 are wrong? 5. . Asked to make major criticism of the CCP that the CCP hasn’t already acknowledged --- All you did was say “they banned private tutors and healthcare isn’t universal”. You are unable to Give a serious criticism 6. Lied that I said that all 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang were sent to the camps. Me saying 12 million Muslims in Xinjiang doesn’t mean I’m saying all 12 million are or were in camps. 7. Said that Corporations never lie that they use forced labor or sweat shop labor and also argued that since Skechers said their two facilities in China didn't have forced labor, it means China doesn't have any forced labor. 8. Lied and that ASPI had said that there are two million in the camps at this exact moment. Unable to provide a source. 9. Lied that Amnesty International with funded by the CIA with CIA money. It was actually founded by Peter Benenson and Eric Baker and it does not accept donations from governments or governmental organizations. 10. Lied that ASPI funding from Australian governments is only 37%. 11. You literally used CCP 100% controlled news as your sources while you reject anything from the west for whatever reason you can think of. 12. You said that Marlabashi Detention center no 1 was in fact a school. Because the Chinese state media source you used cut to a classroom that could be located anywhere. If it was just a school, there would be tons of videos of the school being a school. Kids getting out of class, playing inside those walls, etc. But you won’t provide any such video and just belive the CCP when they say the classroom they showed was indeed inside the facility.
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  893. @agapp11able WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!" - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  895.  @zer0hero95  WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!" - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  900. ​@agapp11able Wumao, in case you didn't see my response: - "If they're incompetent, then how do we know that they're right about the rest of the facilities?" You identified 4 facilities and used CCP state media or random people online who only defend the CCP on their twitter accounts. In a couple of instances, the source is literally just the CCP saying it's not what ASPI claims. In another, they have a video of a classroom that can be anywhere and you accept it as evidence but yet won't say how you can even tell that classroom is in the facility. QUESTION: WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE THE CLASSROOM IS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS ASPI IDENTIFIED FACILITIY? WHY WON'T YOU PROVIDE OTHER VIDEOS OF THE KIDS PLAYING OUTISIDE IN THE FACILITY OR EVEN JUST GOING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING? - ""Where's your serious criticism of the USA? Why did you ignore previous requests?" I gave you lots of criticism from racism in the US both systemic and individual, bad safety nets for the poor, no universal healthcare, corrupt and immorale presidents. You have "I dislike China's ban on private tutoring" LOL, typical wumao. Q: WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO MAKE ANY SERIOUS CRTICISM OF CHINA? YOU A WUMAO? - ""So do you admit then that ASPI is funded by the military of both Australia and the USA? Yes or no?"" ASPI makes their funding very clear unlike your CCP sources. I already gave you the breakdown earlier -- 70% comes from Australia itself and 80% comes from Australia plus private non-government non-defense contractor. Q: WHY DO YOU ACCEPT PROPOGANDA NEWS OUTLET RUN BY THE VERY SAME GOVERNMENT ACCUSSED? - ""Do you admit that many Chinese middle and high schools are boarding schools and have kids live in them. Yes or no?"" I never said they didn't. But you're saying that it's common for boarding schools for MIDDLE SCHOOL to have 10,000+ students and prison walls. Q: GIVE A SOURCE THAT 10,000+ STUDENTS AND PRISON WALLS ARE TYPICAL OF MIDDLE SCHOOL BOARDING SCHOOLS. Q: DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CHINA CREATES PROPOGANDA VIDEOS? IF NOT, PROVE TO ME THE SOLID EVIDENCE ASPI PROVIDED ISN'T CHINA CREATING PROPOGANDA VIDEO? GO AHEAD, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YOU WON'T BECAUSE YOU ARE A WUMAO.
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  901. @agapp11able ​ Wumao, in case you didn't see my response: - "If they're incompetent, then how do we know that they're right about the rest of the facilities?" You identified 4 facilities and used CCP state media or random people online who only defend the CCP on their twitter accounts. In a couple of instances, the source is literally just the CCP saying it's not what ASPI claims. In another, they have a video of a classroom that can be anywhere and you accept it as evidence but yet won't say how you can even tell that classroom is in the facility. QUESTION: WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE THE CLASSROOM IS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS ASPI IDENTIFIED FACILITIY? WHY WON'T YOU PROVIDE OTHER VIDEOS OF THE KIDS PLAYING OUTISIDE IN THE FACILITY OR EVEN JUST GOING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING? - ""Where's your serious criticism of the USA? Why did you ignore previous requests?" I gave you lots of criticism from racism in the US both systemic and individual, bad safety nets for the poor, no universal healthcare, corrupt and immorale presidents. You have "I dislike China's ban on private tutoring" LOL, typical wumao. Q: WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO MAKE ANY SERIOUS CRTICISM OF CHINA? YOU A WUMAO? - ""So do you admit then that ASPI is funded by the military of both Australia and the USA? Yes or no?"" ASPI makes their funding very clear unlike your CCP sources. I already gave you the breakdown earlier -- 70% comes from Australia itself and 80% comes from Australia plus private non-government non-defense contractor. Q: WHY DO YOU ACCEPT PROPOGANDA NEWS OUTLET RUN BY THE VERY SAME GOVERNMENT ACCUSSED? - ""Do you admit that many Chinese middle and high schools are boarding schools and have kids live in them. Yes or no?"" I never said they didn't. But you're saying that it's common for boarding schools for MIDDLE SCHOOL to have 10,000+ students and prison walls. Q: GIVE A SOURCE THAT 10,000+ STUDENTS AND PRISON WALLS ARE TYPICAL OF MIDDLE SCHOOL BOARDING SCHOOLS. Q: DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CHINA CREATES PROPOGANDA VIDEOS? IF NOT, PROVE TO ME THE SOLID EVIDENCE ASPI PROVIDED ISN'T CHINA CREATING PROPOGANDA VIDEO? GO AHEAD, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YOU WON'T BECAUSE YOU ARE A WUMAO.
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  902. @agapp11able Wumao, in case you didn't see my response: - "If they're incompetent, then how do we know that they're right about the rest of the facilities?" You identified 4 facilities and used CCP state media or random people online who only defend the CCP on their twitter accounts. In a couple of instances, the source is literally just the CCP saying it's not what ASPI claims. In another, they have a video of a classroom that can be anywhere and you accept it as evidence but yet won't say how you can even tell that classroom is in the facility. QUESTION: WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE THE CLASSROOM IS IN THE SAME BUILDING AS ASPI IDENTIFIED FACILITIY? WHY WON'T YOU PROVIDE OTHER VIDEOS OF THE KIDS PLAYING OUTISIDE IN THE FACILITY OR EVEN JUST GOING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING? - ""Where's your serious criticism of the USA? Why did you ignore previous requests?" I gave you lots of criticism from racism in the US both systemic and individual, bad safety nets for the poor, no universal healthcare, corrupt and immorale presidents. You have "I dislike China's ban on private tutoring" LOL, typical wumao. Q: WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO MAKE ANY SERIOUS CRTICISM OF CHINA? YOU A WUMAO? - ""So do you admit then that ASPI is funded by the military of both Australia and the USA? Yes or no?"" ASPI makes their funding very clear unlike your CCP sources. I already gave you the breakdown earlier -- 70% comes from Australia itself and 80% comes from Australia plus private non-government non-defense contractor. Q: WHY DO YOU ACCEPT PROPOGANDA NEWS OUTLET RUN BY THE VERY SAME GOVERNMENT ACCUSSED? - ""Do you admit that many Chinese middle and high schools are boarding schools and have kids live in them. Yes or no?"" I never said they didn't. But you're saying that it's common for boarding schools for MIDDLE SCHOOL to have 10,000+ students and prison walls. Q: GIVE A SOURCE THAT 10,000+ STUDENTS AND PRISON WALLS ARE TYPICAL OF MIDDLE SCHOOL BOARDING SCHOOLS. GO AHEAD, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YOU WON'T BECAUSE YOU ARE A WUMAO.
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  903. @agapp11able - "Why can't random people discredit bad sources if they speak the language or have information that others don't? Why can't random people who have clearly accounts that repeatedly use CCP propaganda can't be trusted? And when their evidence is basically "the CCP said it's not what ASPI said" or just a random pic? - "It doesn't matter if the people "defend the CCP", what matters is if there conclusions stand up to scrutiny. And they do." And I would say the EXACT same thing about you regarding Amnesty International, NYT, BBC, and ASPI among many others. You see how this works? You get to use obvious CCP propoganda sources abut then claim every other sources can't be trusted. "Yes. That's not why I linked that video. " A video created by the CCP state propaganda media where they show a classroom that could be anywhere. - "The reason I linked it was because you can see the school." You see a classroom. WHY WON'T YOU GIVE EVIDENCE IT'S THE SAME FACILITY? - "Why are you so fixated on the class? Most of the video is irrelevant. The most important part is where you see the map and the school" So you agree the video doesn't actually show anything from the facility itself in video form? But your saying that the same satellite images show it's a school because the CCP said it's a school? Q: EXPLAIN YOURELF. WHAT FROM THE VIDEO SHOWS MAPS THAT PROVE IT'S A SCHOOL? WHAT TIME MARKER? - " Because you can literally see the building in the video from the outside lol" Q: WHAT TIME MARKER DO YOU SEE THE BUILDING OUTSIDE THAT CONFIRMS IT'S THE SAME FACILITY? WHAT BUILDING MATCHES UP WITH THE BUILDING IN THE VIDEO?
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  905. @agapp11able and the source that shows CCP staging videos is "Mapping Xinjiang’s ‘re-education’ camps" from "ASPI". Google that and it should be top result or just copy & paste paragraphs from below. Below is highlighted text: WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!" - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  941. @agapp11able WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO POINT OUT WHERE ASPI LIED IN ITS ARTICLE WITH EVIDENCE OF CHINA STAGING VIDEOS? WUMAO, ASPI has a great article on how China often tries to lie and use propaganda videos which wumaos like you then use to say "see, no detention facility of Uyghurs!". - Last month, Global Times editor Hu Xijin visited what he referred to as a ‘vocational training center’ in Kashgar. He posted a two-minute video of the trip on his Twitter account - But by July 2017, when construction was complete, every ‘school’ building in the southwest of the facility (previously Middle School No. 5) was surrounded by tall fencing that had been painted green and topped with razor wire. By August, much of School No. 6 was enclosed with similar fencing. Upon completion in around November 2017, School No. 4 was also highly securitised and a tender was released calling for bidders to oversee and install new equipment, including a new surveillance camera system - The video posted by Hu Xijin of Middle School No. 4 on 24 October shows detainees dancing and playing table-tennis and basketball. However, this visit—and the footage shared on social media—may not reflect the regular daily experiences of the detainees. - Through satellite and imagery analysis—including imagery updated daily—we can determine that these courts are coloured mats that are recent additions to the camp. The mats were placed on a concrete-covered area that is normally bare and appears inaccessible to detainees. - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October - Across 25 satellite images between August 2017 and August 2018, which show the facility since its construction, not a single image featured these outdoor courts. But these coloured mats do appear in satellite imagery available from 10 October. Global Times editor Hu Xijin posted about his visit to these facilities on Twitter and Weibo on 24 October
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  1061.  @Wha2les  "we are not talking about the morality of governments" But how a video or content chooses to describe events will lead viewers to certain opinion of morality of governments, even if not intentional. That's what I meant with the Adolph comparison...simply by portraying the center as neutral, it may lead viewers to think that both sides have equal points. >"Like the United States is the beacon of virtues?" if it was, then this would 100% be just about bad things of China. But US is not a beacon of virtues. >We are only talking about the territorial dispute of the unfinished Civil war in China. Your phrasing is literally proving my point. That comment itself can suggest that Taiwan is factor in why it's unfinished when it's really all about China's government not wanting to just let the civil war be finished. You don't see South Korea making threats to take back North Korea. >"You can not blame the Mainland for wanting to complete its territorial claim on Taiwan." See, more proving my point. You are certainly defending China which is exactly the whole point I made and I had believed you were trying to defend China by how you supported how this video tried to make Taiwan (or Taiwan/US) look equally at fault. I'll point right back to South Korea and how they aren't talking about forcibly taking North Korea back. Why can't China do this? It's only North Korea and China acting like that...coincidence that they are autocratic authoritarian governments? So you proved that this video appeals to the type of person who China's opinions about Taiwan. You also stated a lot of factually incorrect things in your posts which I will address in the 2nd part so as to not clutter this response.
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  1062.  @Wha2les  Part 2 of my reply >"You can not blame the Mainland for wanting to complete its territorial claim on Taiwan. It's not like ROC doesn't have claims on Mainland China either. Both claim each other and the South China Sea, and ROC also claimed Mongolia too." ROC claims you are referring to are almost all entirely because China (PRC) refuses to allow Taiwan to change their contisutions regarding those claims as they will see that as an act of independence. And in 2002, Taiwan officially recognized Mongolia as an independent country so you're stating false claims. You literally repeated typical CCP talking points I see online. Hmmm >"Human rights record and all your other criticisms on China, US, etc doesn't matter." It does matter if a video leads audience to believe both sides are equally bad or equally at fault. >We are only in this mess because the CCP in 1949 wasn't able to cross the Taiwan Straits to conquer Taiwan Much like with North Korea, we are only in this mess because an authoritarian oppressive regime does not want to progress and maintains pre-WW2 mentality. >"(Adolph) wanted to take over Europe and disregard other countries sovereignty and eradicate people he didn't like. That is totally different than the China Taiwan issue." An invasion of Taiwan is likely to lead to mass number of Taiwanese eradicated and their sovereignty gone. But regardless, the point of that analogy was to demonstrate how perfectly down the middle gives both sides equal fault. >"Taiwan was a part of China before 1890s when China lost Taiwan to Japan. Japan returned it after WW2 and was under Chinese territorial sovereignty when the KMT fled there in 1949." Never held by the PRC/CCP. >It's like saying if US have a civil war today, It's like saying France should take back Vietnam or England take back India...take back the lands they had 60-70 years ago. Or South Korea send it's army into North Korea. Or Mongolia go into China and take inner Mongolia. 74 years is more than enough time to give up any claims, especially when the claim is a relatively small land.
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  1063.  @Wha2les  "Stop looking at this from an American Perspective." It's not an American perspective. The issue is you are looking at it from an authoritarian oppressive perspective. I'm looking at it from the opposite perspective. That's why the opinion you express more aligns with China, North Korea, Russia and others while mine more aligns with Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and most of the west. >"Taiwan and the mainland both consider each other Chinese. It is in the freaking language." Huh, exactly what Russia/Putin said when stealing lands from Ukraine. You sound more and more like Putin/Xi/Kim. Having the same language is not relevant unless you are Putin/Xi/Kim trying to come up with excuses. And 'Chinese'...well, most of Singapore considers themselves 'Chinese', does that mean China can take Singapore? What about the parts of Malaysia where there are large ethnically Chinese populations? 'Chinese' is too broad of a term and that leads to confusion about what it means to be Chinese. Vast majority of people in Taiwan consider themselves to be Taiwanese first before Chinese. It like trying to say Mexican Americans are the same Mexicans in Mexico and thus either side is justified to take lands from the other. If there were no different in cultures between Taiwanese (or Chinese-Taiwanese if you want to be more specific) and Chinese, then Taiwanese would just peacefully unit with China. >"The polls in Taiwan shows that they prefer the status quo and see what happens in the future." Another typical talking pt of the pro CCP. The question in those polls is with the understanding that 'independence' means possible w.a/r. If you actually think they don't want independence if it was guaranteed that China would accept it and not use force on Taiwan, then you don't know Taiwanese people. Or you only speak to the ultra conservative pro CCP types. >"This is a Chinese issue that should be decided by Chinese people in Taiwan and the Mainland." Except Taiwan already decided. They don't want to be part of China. All of this is because China won't accept it. Your constant use of 'Mainland" and Chinese people to refer to Taiwanese along with your argument that is very much aligned with Russia's justification for taking lands from Ukraine really does seem to support that you are pro CCP and pro authoritarian type.
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  1064.  @Wha2les  "I love how Americans who don't even understand Chinese history and culture instantly call all their arguments they don't like CCP or whatever talking points." I understand Chinese history VERY well. I've read up on. I've traveled China. My ex is from China. I also work for Taiwanese company and have coworkers from Taiwan. But you're talking points are indeed directly from the CCP and other authoritarian regimes. For example: 1. "Taiwan and the mainland both consider each other Chinese. It is in the freaking language." This is used by Putin/Xi/Kim. 2. " The fact they use Mainland China in Taiwan shows that they still view themselves as Chinese." They view themselves first as Taiwanese by a large margin. I believe only some 5% view themselves as Chinese first. 3. "The polls in Taiwan shows that they prefer the status quo and see what happens in the future." This is purposely misused by pro CCP types. They do not consider that 'independence' option is with the idea war is likely. 4. "It's not like ROC doesn't have claims on Mainland China either. Both claim each other and the South China Sea, and ROC also claimed Mongolia too.". Very typical outdated claims or misleading claims used by the pro CCP crowd. This is a dead giveaway on your motives in this conversation because nobody who is against China's policy on Taiwan states that. Thats stuff that gets repeated among the pro CCP crowd. 5. "Taiwan was a part of China before 1890s when China lost Taiwan to Japan. Japan returned it after WW2 and was under Chinese territorial sovereignty when the KMT fled there in 1949. It's like saying if US have a civil war today, and the green party or whatever fled to Hawaii". Again, terribly bad analogy that's only used by pro CCP crowd. But apparently, from your arguments, North Korea should invade South Korea, Putin was justified invading Ukraine and taking lands with Russian speaking people, and China is justified in invading Taiwan.
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  1186. @agapp11able ​ 1. so no source on your lie that China has most of the US debt? 2. No specifics of what ASPI got wrong in their report documenting cccl staging videos? 3. You accept Chinese state media but you refuse to accept ASPI because it’s funded by Australian government? 4. You lied that the aspi report is only words and has not pics/videos 5. You lied that you gave a source on china holding majority of US debt And you are upset people call you a CCP shill? 6. I gave you directed sources supporting that Japan has the most US debt of any country and even then, 2nd place China is just about 3-4% of total US debt. 7. You have argued that ASPI couldn't be trusted because they may have been wrong (your opinion) on 2 facilities out of 400 so they can't be trusted HOWEVER if CCP is wrong on a facility and caught staging videos, they can still be trusted!! And you wonder why people would think you are a CCP shill. LOL. 8. You lied that you gave as a source on the debt ‘Statista’ when I in fact gave you such a source from them and it proved China is 2nd among foreign owned debt and only 3-4% of the total US debt. I gave you the title of the Statista article “Major foreign holders of US treasury” and another source from investopeida while you refuse to provide the title or even quotes from the article. 9. As another source, you used The Grayzone. Mediabaisfactcheck has them as untrustworthy and far left and said of them “A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis” 10. You trust more a g/f that doctors up a video making it looked like you went to a strip club than a g/f that said she believes you went 400 times to strip club but in actuality it was just 396 times you went. 11. You demand I answer over 20 questions (most already answered) of yours or else you consider me a bot while all I ask is you support your lies and hypocrisy or else you are a bot. 12. You use Carr from Australia as a source even though he has connections to the CCP and Carr never even provides evidence that ASPI lied on the Uyghur genocide. And you wonder why people think you are a CCP shill.
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  1190. @agapp11able ​ 1. so no source on your lie that China has most of the US debt? 2. No specifics of what ASPI got wrong in their report documenting cccl staging videos? 3. You accept Chinese state media but you refuse to accept ASPI because it’s funded by Australian government? 4. You lied that the aspi report is only words and has not pics/videos 5. You lied that you gave a source on china holding majority of US debt And you are upset people call you a CCP shill? 6. I gave you directed sources supporting that Japan has the most US debt of any country and even then, 2nd place China is just about 3-4% of total US debt. 7. You have argued that ASPI couldn't be trusted because they may have been wrong (your opinion) on 2 facilities out of 400 so they can't be trusted HOWEVER if CCP is wrong on a facility and caught staging videos, they can still be trusted!! And you wonder why people would think you are a CCP shill. LOL. 8. You lied that you gave as a source on the debt ‘Statista’ when I in fact gave you such a source from them and it proved China is 2nd among foreign owned debt and only 3-4% of the total US debt. I gave you the title of the Statista article “Major foreign holders of US treasury” and another source from investopeida while you refuse to provide the title or even quotes from the article. 9. As another source, you used The Grayzone. Mediabaisfactcheck has them as untrustworthy and far left and said of them “A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis” 10. You trust more a g/f that doctors up a video making it looked like you went to a strip club than a g/f that said she believes you went 400 times to strip club but in actuality it was just 396 times you went. 11. You demand I answer over 20 questions (most already answered) of yours or else you consider me a bot while all I ask is you support your lies and hypocrisy or else you are a bot. 12. You use Carr from Australia as a source even though he has connections to the CCP and Carr never even provides evidence that ASPI lied on the Uyghur genocide. 13. You argue that someone can only be against native genocide or uyghur genocide but not both And you wonder why people think you are a CCP shill.
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  1261.  @realname4401 UN pestimates and projections of China's working age population (15-64) also show China peaked around 2015 and it's been flat about 1 billion people in working age since 2015 and projected to stay flat throught about 2028 then it will nose dive and be only 800 billion by 2040. That's a 20% drop in working age population between now and 2040. I'm also certain that UN estimate was from before China admitted that their population declined and research is showing China's population may have started declining about 5 years ago. The Lowy Institute also measured "Chinese Productivity Growth". The graph I saw was for "Total factor productivity; smoothed trend". Total factor productivity is a measure of productive efficiency in that it measures how much output can be produced from a certain amount of inputs. They show that China's total factor productivity was around 2.5% in early 80's when they opened up, peaked around 5% in mid 80's, gradually declined to about 4.5% by late 90's then has been falling since then and from about 2015-2020 it's been around 1.7%. Another metric is "Capital needed to generate $1 of GDP growth in China". 1991-2007, it averaged (adjusted for inflation) $3.90 to generate $1 of GDP growth. In 2019, it was nearly $8. The point is that China has a lot of debt that is going to hinder growth and more debt isn't going to have anywhere near the amount of return as it did in the past. This is why Lowy Institute said: - China will likely experience a substantial long-term growth slowdown owing to demographic decline, the limits of capital-intensive growth, and a gradual deceleration in productivity growth. - Even with continued broad policy success, our baseline projections suggest annual economic growth will slow to about 3% by 2030 and 2% by 2040, while averaging 2–3% overall from now until 2050. - China would still become the world’s largest economy, but it would never enjoy a meaningful lead over the US and would remain far less prosperous and productive per person even by mid-century. That was from March 2022.
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