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@nikomann88 I do not agree with your statement that the wealthy and well connected will invest in the agricultural or financial sectors, but never in the more complex industrial sector. in fact, agricultural sectors are probably not a sector that the wealthy usually want to invest in. In Argentina, they probably avoid the industrial sector because they don’t have trust in the government And the economic policies. Argentina is remote, but so is Australia, and they are very rich and chile is right next to Argentina, and had very strong success in the last 30 years.
Deregulation is how Asia has gotten rich and yet you think it’s bad for Argentina? It seems to be that there is a lot more going on.
I do agree that Argentina’s demand first world worker rise and salaries, but had to compete with for example, Brazilian society, and other such countries . This is what I mean that Argentina’s economic issues are related to populism where the government gives everything that the people demand which then turns into issues, which they try to correct only to return back to populism. Rinse and repeat.
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@thepunisher2988 more info: With the barley ban failing to produce the desired response, China doubled and tripled down. Beef was next, with several Australian producers losing their export licenses. More tariffs were applied to wine, while customs bans were slapped on wheat, wool, lobsters, sugar, copper, timber, and table grapes. Chinese importers were instructed to stop purchasing Australian coal and cotton, and electric utilities were encouraged not to buy liquefied natural gas on the spot market.
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@文雯-o6o I also googled how it's taught in China and I see two answers from Chinese. It's pretty much the same -- mostly reduce the US impact to the two atomic bombs and lots of emphasis on USSR.
First response:
- When I was in high school, the history books wrote about world war 2 like following.
- Mainly divided into 2 parts, Anti-Japanese War, WW2.
- For the war of resistance against Japan, it mainly describes the important points , including the 1931 incident, and then the KMT still engaged in civil war. After the events of 1937, the war stared totally. After the Nanjing Massacre, the Kuomintang organized a battle in Shanghai. Then the strategic retreat, the Pingxingguan battle, the battle of Taierzhuang, the Hundred-Regiment Campaign. After the atomic bomb was dropped, the Soviet Union invaded the northeast to repel the Japanese.
The second was:
- Since I spent my junior high and part of high school education in China, I think I have some first hand experience on this topic.
- Chinese education divided history into 2 sections: Chinese history and World History. WW2 was mentioned in both sections.
- Here is 7th grade world history section WW2 pacific theater.
- The text book is public data and can be found at:
- The simple translation is “In Pan-Asian theater, the people of Asia fought against Japanese aggressors who refused to surrender. US Forces fought against Japanese Empire at the sea then dropped two atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Meanwhile Soviet Union declared war to Japanese empire and advanced to Northeastern China and Korean peninsula. Aug. 15th, Japanese Empire had no choice but declared surrender.”
- I don’t think any other way can be more neutral and objective.
- If, people in Pan Asian gave up and providing natural resources and manpower to Japanese forces,
- If, Soviet Union had not advanced to Northeastern China and destroyed Japanese Northeastern China Army group, which contains 993,000 soldiers, 5,360 artillery, 1,155 tanks and about 1,800 aircraft. (USSR had to sent 1.7 million soldiers in this fight, also the last major operation in WW2, which rarely be mentioned in history book.) ,
- If, the US hadn’t drop two atomic bombs to Japan, the war would surely last longer and many people would die
Both the above mostly reduce the US impact to just the 2 atomic bombs and no mention that 2/3 of Japanese losses were from the US in just a 3 year period.
And a 3rd reply:
- Here are some pictures from the history textbooks Chinese History (the old ones and the new one):
- So it says it’s China and the world that defeated Japan.
About world history, though I haven’t a picture, as I remembered, it’s the world that defeated the fascist too. And the overwhelming force is not the US, it’s Soviet. The US doesn’t appear much in a Chinese history textbook.
- update: Just got some captures from the World History, old vision and new. To my suprise, the US appears a lot. And still, soviet appears more.
So this 3rd response from a Chinese even mentions that in the older Chinese history textbook, the US doesn't appear much. So even if they said the US was the biggest factor besides China, it will get lost if they spent much more time talking about Soviets defeating Japan than US defeating Japan.
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@文雯-o6o On a more academic level and a longer history of how WW2 (or the whole China-Japan war that actually started earlier than WW2), this book review on "China Good War" from 2020 by historian Rana Mitter:
- At issue is the traumatic period from 1931 to 1949...The Chinese have a very different picture of these events, one that has changed over time. For the first three decades of the People’s Republic, the War of Resistance against Japan (as it is called in China) was downplayed except to laud the contributions of Communist units while suppressing the major role of the national army. On at least two occasions, Mao expressed gratitude for the Japanese invasion, asserting—I think correctly—that it had made his victory over Chiang Kai-shek possible. But in the 1980s academic historians began to accord the War greater attention and respect. Officials cautiously allowed their work to seep into the wider culture. Though it took several decades more, the sacrifices and achievements of the Nationalist troops came to be more fully acknowledged.
- But with this new attention came a remarkable interpretation, in which resistance to the Japanese invasion was framed as a principal—as well as the first, and the longest—part of the worldwide war against fascism. In this view, it was not the naval and amphibious conflict in the Pacific but rather the land battles in China that constituted the most important theater and were essential to the eventual triumph over Japan.
The important part is that it seems that in the 1980s, China slowly began to teach the Japan/WW2 history with more acknowledgement of the actual events. My ex and the people I mentioned were in grade school in the 80’s or early 90’s. What they learned may have been very different than what a child learned in the 2000’s or what they learn today in 2023.
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