Comments by "Auntie M" (@auntiem873) on "FOX 13 Seattle" channel.

@trentbrownstone1481 - agreed. They didn’t park their vehicle in his property they had an accident. The man then stole their property by chaining it to the tree. The owner was in the process of removing the vehicle but now they can’t. You can’t charge for storage of stolen property, that you in fact stole. Signing a form to say you would be responsible if the tree dies is not considered under duress.
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With all the fires going on they decided to start another one in such a peaceful area. I’m glad it got under control before people had to evacuate that area too. I hope the judge throws the book at them.
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Why didn’t the Dad say anything to his Mom? This was his child too.
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@420lsdkfslekfaslk - learn a thing or two before texting, comprehension of what one is reading is important. I was responding to someone else’s post. The property owner is stealing the cars, the owner of the cars had an accident on his property. So when they go to get help, the tow company can’t remove the car because the property owner has chained the vehicle to his tree. That’s called stealing, depriving someone of their property is stealing it. As such you cannot be compensated for your crime by charging storage fees. As for the tree, unless they hit the tree and damaged it to where it falls over, dies, the damage to the tree is the owners fault for chaining the vehicle to the tree. If the tow company comes and does not see the chain on the car or around the tree and they tow the car only to have the tree damaged. It could be argued that it’s the owners fault for chaining it up in the first place. Not making the tow company or the vehicle owner responsible since they didn’t do it, as well as hiding the chain so a tow truck driver doesn’t see it in the dark before he tows the vehicle. This would make the owner of the tree/property liable for the damages to the vehicle as a result of it being chained to the tree.
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Calypso Eros - you are correct. My Brother worked for a towing company thereErin Seattle for years. He put up signs on my Mother’s property and told her the same things. And it worked, people were afraid to even park close the the curb entrance. Made life so much easier getting in and out of our driveway. What he also told me was that if a car is on your property for 30 days you can file for the title as an abandoned vehicle. It takes another 30 to 60 days to process the paperwork and after 90 days you can sell the vehicle after you received the paperwork. How that works is after the 30 days, the state sends a letter to the last known address or to the address on the registration (some times different) they then have 10-30 days to respond depending on certain things. By that time it may take 60 days to finish the process. It is usually less, but you have to wait the full 90 days just in case mail is slow.
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@rohitkhosla8110 - that makes the most sense. 👍
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It was Dads Mom. What could go wrong! That’s what everyone was thinking.
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Didn’t Trump day not to deal with China?? Something tells me that businesses that deal with Trump real estate will do real well too.
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@BreakinUpBuds - sorry the response has taken too long. I was not notified you had responded to me. Anyway. Look at it this way. Your breaks go out and your car winds up jumping the curb and landing in someone’s living room. No one is hurt. You leave the car to make a phone call, insurance, call a tow truck. Call the police. You went to the sidewalk, stayed there making all your calls. It takes 30 minutes to make the calls. You go back to the house, your car. Only you find out the home owner has chained the car to the fireplace, a stair bannister. Your reasoning is, the car is the home owners now and they can do what they want???? They do not give you time to make arrangements to get the car removed. The car should have just been backed out, left the home? Sorry but in many places, the law says you cannot remove the vehicle till police show up or you have been given permission to remove the car if it does not cause more damage. In this case, the guy hit the tree head on, there is a good chance he cracked his radiator, engine block and maybe the frame. It is not safe to move the vehicle if it can move at all. The owner made arrangements to have the car picked up only to find that it can’t because the Tow company finds the car chained to the tree. There are a lot of areas where a tow truck cannot come out till the next day. That’s doesn’t mean he has to stay with the car. It would have been nice if he left a note on the home owners door (if it was late at night when it happened), but he doesn’t have to. He left a note on the car itself saying he will take care of it. He did. The home owner wants people to be more responsible and not speed there. Good luck with that, he cannot control the public. The home owner cannot keep something that is not his even if it is on his property. By law. Now if the car was there for 30 days after the accident that’s another story. After 30 days it can be considered abandoned. Then the home owner can lay claim to the vehicle but he still has to file the paperwork first.
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@BreakinUpBuds - not saying it isn’t smart, I’m saying if they come with the tow truck to move their vehicle, they should not have to have their vehicle held hostage. That’s stealing. The home owner can get their insurance information and driver’s license. And if the vehicle owner does not want to give it, call the cops and have the cops get it. It sucks that the tow truck is there but that’s not the home owners fault. He can tell the tow truck driver that if he removes the vehicle before he gets the information then his company can be held responsible for the damages. But if that doesn’t work and they still want to take the vehicle the home owner can’t stop them. It’s not his property. All he can do is get the plate number and vin, ask the cops when they show up to get the insurance information and then contact your insurance and give them all the information. That way if something does happen to the tree, insurance is aware already and the claim is processed faster. And because they have the vehicles info, he and or his insurance company can pay the fees and your insurance doesn’t go up.
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We are only in the 4th month of the year! 10 people so far! That use to be in a year! What is wrong with people today?
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@kittyisabel6076 - maybe. I saw a different story. Either case, it’s a warning about sending your child alone to a foreign-country.
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The Father had no trouble unloving his daughter. That’s because she means nothing to him. She is a female and her only value is what he can get from someone else for her. She is a pair of shoes to him.
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Stop attacking the cop here. He is doing a job in which he is damned if he does anything and damned if he doesn’t. They want to defund the police here. Well the people who attacked the man does. The people need to show the criminals that enough is enough. To do that, start by increasing the pay. Start putting money in to the police force so they can hire. Nothing scares bad guys than police presence and the willingness to arrest and put them in jail for simple things like Jaywalking. It sounds awful but bad guys don’t like it when police are watching and they either leave or get in line.
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Happens everyday. Usually custody cases.
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@barrag3463 - I wouldn’t be surprised if that were true. The city wants business to come in. They think it will bring in more money so they will give the companies tax breaks and loans. In a lot of cases it does work however, in these ride shares it does not.
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I’m still confused. The girl was saying don’t take it out on my Grandma or Aunt. Then the story says Grandma wouldn’t let her come to the phone. So who was hitting/abusing her? Was it an uncle (brother-in-law)? Was it cousin’s? Was it Grandma? The Father was awfully quite. Did this happen to him as a kid? If so why would he let his child go? That’s a small island, he probably knows about the brother-in-law and if grandma was staying with Him or he with her, why would he risk something happening to his child? There are a lot of red flags, before the child went over. I hope this person gets dealt with.
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A couple of bike patrols would work well there. Ride up and down the line, let the drivers tell you who cut, they then can roll up and ask/tell them to go to the back of the line. If they don’t, call in the patrol car.
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@steveeddy6876 - people live out side and around it.
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Pence should have run against Trump. He did the right thing.
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The thing with that is that the ride share company can then charge the property owner for all fees and fines. They left it safely in a parking spot, the property own took matters into their own hands and moved it without permission.
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@motoxguy7 - all they have to prove is that it was moved from where they left it. Then it becomes the property owners responsibility to care for it. Why do you think Tow truck drivers and the cops didn’t want to touch it or deal with it? It’s the same law that Mechanics have to follow when they take a car for repair. It has been to court before and that’s how the courts ruled. I can’t remember the year it was ruled, some time back in the 90’s.
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@brianm6117 - Not in the State this happened you couldn’t. You may feel you do but you don’t. Which is why this guy was worried about the liability. If something happened to that car while on his property, the owner could sue for the repairs. All stemming from a ruling made towards a repair shop that left a car on the street after it was repaired and paid for. The owner was going to pick it up after hours so the owner left the car outside his lot. The car got stolen or damaged somehow, I forget the reason. But the owner of the car won cause the car was in a safe place and if not for them moving it the vehicle would not have gotten damaged. Even if the owner knew they were going to do this. A smart lawyer, which I’m sure the ride share has Access too, would know this and apply it to this case as well.
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@brianm6117 - Not in Seattle.
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@brianm6117 - if he moved the car off his property and the car got damaged he would be responsible. He moved the car into harms way. That’s what I’m saying. If he leaves the car there on his property and it gets damaged then different story. If not for the land owners actions the car was damaged. If he had left it alone, on his property, it was in a safe spot. In a parking spot just on his property. If it got damaged or stolen from there he holds no liability cause reasonable care was taken - it was in a parking spot. That’s all he has to do. It’s the taking it from that spot, him not being the owner that is the problem. Just as in a mechanic shop. The car was secured and if not for the owners actions moving it to the street, allowing it to get damaged, the person who was in last possession of it was held liable. If the car had been stolen from his lot cause someone broke in and took it, a different law applies but the law where “if not for his actions” the car would got damaged would apply here. Now if nothing happens to the car then all is good but, if something should happen then the person who moved it would be liable. And a different law applies if the man moved it, nothing happened to the car for 30 days but on the 31st day something does. Then too bad. After 30 days the car could be seen as abandoned and then the old owner is out of luck. Why happens to an abandoned thing happens. You may not like this, there may be exceptions to it but that is something that the lawyer has to argue about in court - an exception to the law.
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@joebalser9515 - I understand what your saying. I wouldn’t want it there either. Proof - the guy sent the company a letter saying it was on his property. (Proof it was there) Now after they didn’t come and pick it up, it’s on the street. It got damaged (maybe) it got tickets (maybe). It is more likely than not that the property owner moved it or had it moved. Then it becomes you as the property owner to prove you didn’t. Can you prove you didn’t do something? It’s very hard.
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@Taydooba - that’s is not what I’m saying. This isn’t any parking spot. The car is in a small parking lot. There is a good chance one of the tenants from the building parked it there. The man/owner tried to do the right thing and let the owner know where their car was. In doing so, he assumed responsibility to do sue diligence in care. In other words have it towed by a legit tow company. Unfortunately a legit one will not touch it. Had he just had it removed from the spot he would have been fine. It’s the letter that is the problem. Seattle has a pesky law that says a car cannot be towed from a business, lot or the street without a ticket. The cops refuse to issue one. All because he did not have tow signs up to warn a person that unauthorized parking in his lot would result in towing. Welcome to the world of doing business. Had it been a parked in a private residence, his personal driveway, no one else allowed, there wouldn’t have been a problem. This however is not that. It is a business as such other laws apply. Businesses have to have signs posted about towing. Private residence does not. Have you ever been to a store that didn’t have signs up? This includes apartments. This is why. What people fail to understand though is the letter and the lack of action to retrieve the vehicle now works in the man’s favor. 30 days after the owners were notified, if they do not remove the vehicle, the man can contact the state to have the title changed into his name. The car can be considered abandoned. The city then sends a letter as well and if no action is taken by the end of that 30 days they will issue a new clean title to the man. He gets a car for free or for the cost of filing. If the company responses, they are told they have 3 days to remove it or lose it. If they do not then again the man gets a new car. So after 60 days that car can belong to him and if the old owners then come to take it he can have them arrested for cat theft. That means he can sell it, tow it, scrap it, give it away if he wants, it’s his car. So you see, the letter is important. It shows he did his part, the ride share did not.
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@Taydooba - don’t go into business. You will be sorely disappointed in your lack of success.
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@Taydooba - my brother drove a tow truck in Seattle.
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@xacthuibainhlaonhiemlambai4053 - they are expensive cause they are from Seattle.
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@gangleweed - your late. I’ve already explained the proof. But thanks for playing.
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The police department did a great job from the start. They locked the place down. They did not let the bad guy know what they found. At the same time kept the information out of the press despite the public (students and their parents) outcry. Their demands for information. Then to have the department ask for help, the other department giving it. It was great to watch everyone get along. That’s how it was suppose to work. 6 weeks of investigation and the cops git a suspect, Evidence, DNA, surveillance. All the things that Jury’s eat up. Now comes the hard part. What will the Judge allow?
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That’s what I would do. The whole process takes about 60 days though. The first 30 days, you filing and the process of the paperwork and the state also tries to contact the owner. After 60 days if the state does not receive a response, they issue a new title free and clear to you. The timely matter within that 60 days starts the moment they seal the envelope. Even if the envelope sits in the mail box there. Most owners get 48-72 hours to contact the state to stop the process. I know this cause my brother use to drive a tow truck. People would refuse to pay the tow bill thinking they would wait till it goes to court. Their lot is small so after 30 days they apply to the state, showing that within the 30 days they contacted the owner by certified mail and the owner either refused the letter or responded with a no I will not pay. Thus making their vehicle abandoned on their property. Every 2 months they would hold an auction. The nice cars were always picked up before the 60 days were up. If not by the owner/driver but by the bank that held the loan on it.
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