Comments by "Perry Howell" (@user-ue4rd1mf1v) on "Ryan McBeth"
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Ryan good quick synopsis.
Keep in mind gaza and judea (the'west bank'- as in the west bank of jordan, following their illegal capture and annexation of it in 48) were occupied by Egypt and Jordan until the second war in 67. Neither Egypt nor Jordan offered them a state and palestnian nationalism wasnt yet a thing- it was created by Arafat at the bequest and interest of the Soviet Union who groomed him for the purpose, begining in 1964.
He launched rockets into Israel and generally acted terribly from Jordan even though no palestiniam arabs were there. (Apart from 'Israeli Arabs' who make up 1/5 the population of Israel). Arafat was kicked out of Jordan in 72 after attempting to assasinate King Hussein.
The borders with Israel were completely open from 67 onward and 'palestinians' mixed freely with Israelis inside Israel. Israel closed the borders 40 years later and built the wall following an Arafat initiated bloodbath that killed 1000 Israelis. Arafat having yet again just refused the state Israel offered the palestinians.
The palestinian 'refugees' are the only refugees on the planet to have inherited the designation 3 and 4 generations from the event.
This is a political manipulation designed to keep them fighting and lend their story legitimacy, but its a fraud as the refugee system does not work that way- after korea there were 3.1 million refugees, and 10 years later none, as they were settled into places they fled. That is the way its always done, except in this case, and it harms only the Palestinians themselves, because holding onto this prevents them from settling and move forward. As is the normal standard.
Like most things about the generally accepted Palestinian narrative, it is a manipulation designed to serve the interests of those pulling the strings- namely the Soviet Union, the Arab League, and Iran.
Read "russian footprints" by defected Soviet General Ion Mihai Pacepa, who had a direct hand in the manipulation of the Palestinian people through Arafat as well as several other Arab nations tied to the Soviet sphere of influence.
Its 7 pages long, and you can find it in 'the national review'.
Thanks as ever Ryan.
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Hi Ryan. I love your content but you made two big mistakes here that are lethal anti Israel propeganda footholds and need to be addressed.
1). The displacement of the nakba. Israels creation didn't result in the displacement of the nakba, it was created by the Arab armies losing the war they started. They started that war instead of accepting the state they were offered alongside Israel that the Jews had agreed to for themselves.
Also, 800k to a mil Jews were immediately expelled from a bunch of Arab nations immediately following Israel's declaration of independance. They were all absorbed by Israel.
The Arab refugees of 47 in contrast were never accepted as citizens of Jordan or Egypt who occupied them until 1967.
They are still called refugees today even though 4 generations have passed, which is unique to them alone- this is yet another political game designed to screw Israel but which ultimately destroys generation after generation of Palestinian lives.
Israel offered the Arabs (now calling themselves 'palestinians') a state, and they did so 4 times. Niether Egypt nor Jordan offered them one while occupying them.
Yassir Arafat was groomed and installed by the Soviets to create havoc between Arabs and Jews, and part of that plan was to never agree to a state but also to be endlessly violent.
The Soviets and the Arab league destroyed and weaponized the Palestinians to stick a knife into Israel and to utilize them in general for their own political interests.
The occupation by Israel was free of strictures for the first 30 years- the people mixed freely and got along well, except for Arafats constant violence.
Israel finally shut its borders after Arafat killed another 1000 people for nothing following Israel's withdrawal from much of the west bank in accordance with Oslo.
That was the end of the peace process writ large.
Israel offered them one more state in 2008 but that was rejected again.
2) There IS NO APARTHIED in Israel.
You mentioned Israel losing the information war, and then made this statement. Israel is losing the information war because people keep making statements like that. Aparthied has a specific meaning. The situation in Israel does not meet that description.
Please address this.
Arab Israelis are 20% of the population and have full status and freedoms. They are the only free Arabs in the mid East
They are Palestinans as much as are those in the disputed territories.
The Arabs in the territories are not citizens of Israel, period. As such they have no assigned rights within Israel.
Inside their territories, Gaza is (was) self governed by Hamas. Gaza was NOT occupied-, Israel removed all citizens and soldiers in 2006.
The territories are governed in area a by the PA, area b by a combination of PA and IDF.
The restriction of movement inside Israel is due to constant violence. The borders were wide open for 30 years. But the endless violence of the Palestinian leadership finally got it's way, hurting the Palestinian people who were then cut off from access to work and freedom within Israel.
If the Palestinians had ever accepted the state they were offered those borders and boundaries would still exist, as they would be two separate countries.
Finally, despite the hate rhetoric and rocket fire coming from Gaza, up till Oct 7 Israel allowed 20k Gazans to enter Israel daily to work.
(This was partly why the Intel on the kibbutzes they butchered and on nearby IDF assets was so precise- that is what the Gazans did with the access to Israel they were granted.)
There is NO aparthied, the people in question are stateless and so have no claim to rights inside Israel.
Gaza was NOT occupied- Israel pulled out completely in 2006. They were not initially blockaded either, though the borders were shut as mentioned due to violence.
The blockade from both Israel and Egypt came about when Hamas took power, for obvious reasons.
The strictures on Palestinians are due solely to their propensity for violence, not the other way around. As is evident by the borders having been open for so long despite the constant violence. It is NOT due to race, or ethnicity as 20% of Israel shares these with the people in question.
This was done TO them AND to Israel BOTH, by the Soviets and the Arab league over the course of decades.
But there is no aparthied, this is technically NOT TRUE. Please fix these mistakes Ryan.
Thank you for your content and all you do.
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@JabranImran They almost always target non military. There's been a shooting, ramming, stabbing of Israelis every day for the last 8 months. It never made western media.
If they were really only focussed on taking hostages as the report did specify, they'd have had loads and loads of them had they concentrated on it. Just shuttling people quickly into Gaza and coming back for more. They knew they'd have lots of time based on their (absurdly detailed and accurate) intelligence on ETA, location and composition of Israeli reaction forces.
Unless theyre report was way wrong they knew they'd be giving themselves a LOT of time in those kibbutzes with those citizens.
And it wasn't wrong, it was (absurdly) dead accurate, when I compare their plan to Israeli reports from and about their responders.
Please understand, by the time these people are 4 they are talking openly about "shooting all the Jews for Allah". They're taught they are filthy, spawns of Satan etc. The children's plays are about attacking Jewish worshippers and martyrdom. It's fucking twisted, it really is a death cult.
And you can see it in their information jihad as well. There's not an ounce, an iota, of integrity in their approach or language- anything goes if it's toward the purpose of destroying Israel.
The porn star mia khalifa was fired from playboy for supporting Hamas.
Hamas issued a statement saying "they value sex workers, are happy for her support, and support the rights of lgtbq lifestyles"
Literally. You can find it.
These people kill their own sisters and daughters if they 'dishonour' the family. They cut the genitals off of homosexual men and throw them off buildings. That's the reality. But that's the statement they issued to Mia Khalifa. It's simply a dog whistle to the western left that hates Israel so obsessively and bizarrely. (As opposed to actually caring for Palestinians. Which they don't really.)
Anything goes when it comes to killing Jews and destroying Israel for these people.
The way the talk is the way they act.
The pleasure they took in this was evident in their exuberation as they did it and filmed it.
It's fucking demented.
They gave themselves lots of time in the plan, and they didn't hustle once inside, they took their time and cast off 5000 people killed and injured while only taking 150 or so.
Hostages was one centerpoint of the plan but terrorizing everybody in Israel and enjoying every minute of it and ensuring they'd have the time to do so was not an accident.
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@chrisd2896 so so draining this is. 2+2=4. Right? If everyone says 2+2= 5, is it so?
The facts about conditions:
Arabs made up the last Israeli government. Arabs sit on the Supreme Court. Arabs are judges, doctors, IDF officers. Therefore there is no aparthied in Israel. Period.
The people in the disputed territories are NOT Israeli citizens and so have no expectations of rights inside Israel. Any more then mexicans or Canadians have inside the United States. They are self governed, except in area b of Judea, which is shared. Judea is occupied, Gaza was not.
The border was blockaded by BOTH Egypt and Israel, for the same reasons. Before non stop violence finally led Israel to close the borders to the disputed territories, they were wide open for 30 years. People mixed freely and got along well. Violence aside. But Israel was not obligated to do that.
All of it is Israeli territory, they live on Israel's land. (Israel has offered them a state 4 times. They've refused. Egypt and Jordan did not offer them one while occupying those same lands)
Aparthied has a specific meaning. If you look up that meaning and compare it to what I've just said, you will see there is no aparthied. It doesn't matter what he says and she says. Compare the definition to the facts I just gave you and think for yourself.
The propeganda certainly has seeped in everywhere. Your post makes you unwittingly a conttributer to it.
Amnesty international is deeply politicized- They all now are. The founder of Human Rights Watch has publically disavowed his former company, because they like so many others had become infected with the same social contagion as is capturing you.
But aparthied is a specific condition with a set definition. And if you compare that definition with the information I just gave you, you will see clearly it is not so.
Its not only destructive and dangerous to slander that way, it is VERY disrespectful to the millions of people who actually did endure aparthied.
So I'll ask you to stop doing it.
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@theichione1827 why don't you look into it. Do you want us to chew your food for you too?
The UN has 193 nations in it and the vast majority as a block are Muslim dictatorships within the sphere of the former Soviet Union. It operates as a democracy but has very few nations that are democracies within it. Russia is on the security Council and has a permanent veto. For example. I believe Iran sat on the human Rights Council. It's ridiculous.
And it uses Israel as a punching bag, singling it out for special treatment with a regular standing meeting. No other country is so treated.
Of 135 ish general assbly resolutions, over 1/2 are about Israel.
Of 95 ish human Rights Council resolutions, 83 are about Israel.
(I think that's correct, I'll have to check again)
Assad in Syria kills a million of his own people, many with poison gas, and got 1 resolution on one occasion. 5 million killed in the DRC, not a single resolution. China imprisons and sterilizes 3 million Muslims, not a single resolution.
Iran stones to death its own women for holding hands on the beach out of wedlock, tortures it's political rivals and their families, disappears people, jail's or kills homosexuals, sponsors state backed terrorism that upends the entire region, starts a war in Yemen that is by far the biggest recent humanitarian crisis in the mid East, sponsors Hamas, Islamic jihad and others that destroyed the Palestinians and Hizbollah which just turned Lebanon into a failed state and has 200k rockets aimed at Israel. Zero resolutions.
I'm actually not going to answer you again. You are not acting in good faith here.
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@Mandems973 This is a long post. I'm exhausted already from dealing with people like you.
I'll do this quickly, not completely.
First of all "Human Rights" organizations have become tools of information war. Most of them have long been infested with the fetishized social contagion of Israel hate. The founder of Human Rights Watch himself has disavowed his own company for having succumbed to this. It's a case in point, they are all the same. Very sadly.
You go to great lengths to point out how Israel's law is 'unfair' to Palestinians without acknowledging the extent to which everything Israel ever offers them has been used as a weapon, and without recognizing that as a democracy, Israels existence is at stake.
Israel COULD do what Saddam Hussein did, for instance, which was have a brutal, authoritarian dictatorship which ruled Iraqs majority tribe with an iron fist, which would technically "preserve" Israel's Jewishness, but would sell out it's spirit.
I'm sure you can agree the 20% Arab population of Israel, who are the only free Arabs in the mid east, would prefer things be done this way.
None of them want to live under Palestinian rule.
(No elections in 16 and 20 years there)
Tell me, how many Jews live in Jenin?
How many Jews are part of the government of the PA? Or Hamas?
Or Egypt for that matter, or Syria?
You are HYPERFOCUSSED on Israel, while the children of the PA are radicalized and impoverished by their government, whose leader screws them over by teaching them that ALL of "Palestine" belongs to them. (Except Jordan of course. Nobody has a problem with Jordan, which also "occupies" "Palestine". Only Israel makes people like you turn blue in the face. Why is that?)
When Jordan occupied Judea/Samaria they never offered those people a state. They cleansed the area of Jews. They refused to repatriate the Arabs after losing the war they started, leaving it in Israel's lap. Israel has offered these people a state 4 times.
It's borders were wide open from 1967 on and Israelis and "palestinians" mixed freely and got along well.
Did you know that? Most don't.
That in fact was the best time Palestinians ever had. Per capita income rose by 1500%. 8 universities were built on the west bank, where none were before.
I can remember scenes of Palestinians sitting around Israeli dinner tables, calling their mom "Eema". That's how it often was.
What changed it was the Soviet backed violence from their asset, Yasser Arafat, and his program of radicalization.
They finally closed the borders after 30 years when another 1000 Israelis were blown to pieces.
That's what happened to the Palestinians. The Soviets/their puppet leadership. Not the Israelis.
Israel isn't perfect but it's BY FAR the most humane, civil and fair country in the region to ALL it's citizens.
EVERYBODY is trying to kill it.
The Soviets spent gazillions of dollars radicalizing the mid east against Jews and Israel, for its own strategic aims. Qatar, Iran and Russia, along with extremist groups like Muslim brotherhood, have been spending billions on western universities and media for the same purpose, which is why this hate, misinformation and irrational focus and outrage has spread.
(Keep in mind, their aim is to destroy the west. )
How much complaining did you do about Assad's barbaric murder of 500k? Including 5 -10 k Palestinians he just gunned down for nothing?
Or about his oppressive, violent rule in general?
How many posts have you made about the total evisceration of Lebanon by Iran/Hizbollah? And the horrorible suffering and injustice it causes?
How about the horrors in south Sudan? Or the DRC? (5.5 million dead and counting)
Im guessing zero. I'll be thrilled for you to prove me wrong. Just link to some of those angry outraged comments you must have made during all those years of needless human suffering at the hands of Assad, Raisi and Nosrallah.
I look forward to you proving me wrong.
I hope you don't turn out to be one of those people who write hateful diatribes about all the injustices you percieve in Israel while letting mass murder and routine oppression and torture as a matter of daily life go unmentioned, just because of tribal allegiences, or because youve got caught up in a fetishized social contagion of hate.
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@jmave thank you for your message. I'm sorry to have launched so quickly.
If you pursue this fully and come across the correct information you will come to understand why im so touchy. But I'm sorry all the same-please forgive me.
You mention the UN and humanitarian agencies.
This is partly why.
You will have trouble believing this. I did. I only recently discovered all this, and I can barely believe it still.
: they have all long ago become partisan, politicized and outrageously anti Israel. It's the only country treated this way by them, as far as I can tell..
but it's ubiquitous and it's true, and its extremely dangerous.
The UN.
Russia has a permanent veto on the security Council..
Iran is about to become chair of the Human Rights Council.
I'm not sure how much you know about the islamic Republic of Iran but those two facts encapsulate the entire failure of the UN.
Iran sentences women to be stoned to death- that's right you read correctly- stoned to death- for 'moral crimes' such as holding hands on the beach out of wedlock. For homosexuality. And more.
Torture of political rivals- and family members of political rivals- is rampant. Also dissenters of any kind.
Another teenager just died after a beating by the morality police for not wearing her hijab correctly. I could go on for hours and not get to half of it. It's unbelievably barbaric medieval regime that oppresses the Persian people terribly.
They also export this terror, responsible for the largest humanitarian disaster in the mideast in recent history by way of their war in Yemen, fought by their Islamist jihadi proxy in the Houthis.
Who also was launching at Saudi Arabia.
They sponsor Islamist jihadi group Hizbollah who occupies Lebanon and just finished turning it into a failed state.
As well as Islamist jihadi group Hamas in Gaza who took the opportunity granted by Israel to run it as they saw fit, and turned the whole place instead into a giant military bunker with the billions given to the Palestinian people. Who became more impoverished, isolated and hateful- fed pure Jew hate and jihad from birth at school and at home- while it's leaders soak up billions in their personal bank account and live lives of luxury in Qatar.
The UN has a standing meeting only about Israel every month.
The only country so treated.
The only democracy in the entire region. Whose 20% Arab population are the only free Arabs in the middle East.
Let me break it down a bit.
China inters 1000000 Muslims into labour camps and sterilizes them.
Zero passed UN resolutions. Zero.
China paves over Hong Kong. No UN resolution. China still occupies Tibet, it's whole population living in exile. No UN resolution.
Bashar Assad kills a million of his own people in his Syrian civil war. Many by chemical weapons. Thousands of those killed were palestinians - he just bombed them. (No protests about that here btw. No student groups, no labour leaders, no virtue signaling politicians and actors marching- nothing at all. Silence. It was barely even addressed by the Palestinian 'leadership' in Mahmood abbas- he barely mentioned it at all and did nothing to assist. This should be a very large signal about what's actually happening here- what it IS, compared to what it SAYS it is. This noise and garbage happening now has nothing really to do with the Palestinians at all )
Anyway, for killing thousands of Palestinans needlessly while killing a million of his own people, one single resolution, during one year.
Iran causes a failed state in Lebanon, and sponsors a bloodbath in Yemen. Millions killed and displaced. Barbaric savagery witnessed as is typical of jihsdis.
No resolution. Not one.
It did get dinged 5 or 6 times since 06 related to its nuclear program. The language of the reporting was not nearly as caustic as that used in any of the resolutions against Israel.
Russia attacks Ukraine. Uses barbaric practices, side expanding munitions, intentional attacks on civilians, widespread torture of POWs, etc.
No resolution. Not one.
The DRC has a decades long war that's killed 5.5 million people. It's starting up again now. Rampant breaches of rules of conflict.
(Edit: there has in fact been activity at the UN about the DRC. Not nearly as much as with Israel and I'm not sure if the reports have been as bitter and devoid of fact as they are when addressing Israel. I will be reading through those resolutions and will amend my statement accordingly. Please disregard the DRC from my argument except to note that over 5 Million have died and still the UN isn't nearly as active on this file as they are about Israel. And we shall see if they are remotely as caustic and untruthful in their reporting about it. I hope not. )
But every month there's a standing meeting about Israel.
Out of 135 human Rights Council resolutions from 06 to 2016, 68 of them were about Israel. Half of them.
One to the brutal north korea, once in 2022 for its decades of eggregious and endemic human rights violations. About 20 others for its nuclear activity.
zero to South Africa , who is persecuting it's white farmers in state sponsored massacres, zero to any of the dozens of repressive Muslim dictatorships which surround Israel, with their honour killings of women, torture, imprisonment or murder of homosexuals, and dissidents, absence of personal freedoms, massive repressions of speech and behaviour, barbaric punishments meted out from their kangaroo courts. But no resolutions of any kind for any of them. (Except As mentioned , one for Assad in Syria, once, after he murdered a million of his own people. One.
But 68 out of 135 for Israel.
Whose Arab population has full representatiin in parliament, whose Arabs formed the last government, whose last top banker was an Arab. Where gays and lesbians have full protection under the law. Whose Christians are safe,
whereas 100k Christians are killed every year in the mid East and Africa by Islamists (no resolutions about that either, not for Nigeria, Burkina Faso, etc.)
In the UN general Assembly, of 97 resolutions criticizing any country in the world, 83 of them were directed at Israel. 83 of 97.
It's ridiculous. Completely ridiculous .
If you want to get a sense of it, watch col. Richard Kemp of the High Level Military Group address Navi Pillay. It's outrageous.
I have to go, j can't finish this now.
But trust me when I say - with horror- that the same is true for all the supposedly respectable human rights organizations. Amnesty international , doctors without borders , you name it .
The founder of human rights watch has disavowed his former organization. He did so for a number of reasons, but largely it was for its having succumbed to the rampant social contagion and desease of Israel hate and bias.
I wish I was making this up. But I'm not. I couldn't believe it at first but it's true.
So you won't find good information there.
I'm not sure where to point you-
Here:
1 "Russian footprints". An essay by a Soviet blok general directly involved in Soviet state campaigns to sew jihad, violence and hatred throughout the Arab world and to destroy peace with Israel for its own gain. They groomed and installed yassir Arafat to do their bidding, to weaponize the Palestinians in order to destroy Israel. He was directly involved in some of it and tangentially involved in all.
He spent his life writing about it after his defection to try to stop it.
You'll find that essay in ' the national review'
Check next
Mossssab Hassan Youssef, the son of a founder of Hamas.
He gave up everything and gravely risked his life to stop the violence and bring the truth to the world.
Start with his 2 minute speech before the UN.
SARA Idan, the former ms. Iraq.
See her speech at the UN. And look for interviews with her.
Christuan priest Father naddaf, see his speech before the UN.
Check out yoseph Haddad, an Arab Israeli former IDF.
Listen to Thomas Sowell on the topic. Also Victor Davis Hanson.
Good luck to you. I hope you find your way and become a voice of reason- because the hate and misinformation is so bad people are literally cheering the burning of babies. The zombie apocolypse truly is upon us. Good luck..
And sorry again to have reacted so quickly.
Edit: also, Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She's wonderful. Formerly a radical herself. Check out everything she says or writes.
Take good care.
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@jmave They just removed another attempt to answer you.
That should tell you something about what I'm trying to say, and the sort of people who do things like that.
Think about Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, also Hamas, Hizbollah, ansa Allah, - look at the oppression and censorship, and look at the behaviour of my jihadi hackers.
That should tell you something,ie who's who.
I'll just say those sources are not at all reliable. If I say more they'll probably censor me. So have a look into it yourself.
Take care and sorry for the hard words.
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