Comments by "Perry Howell" (@user-ue4rd1mf1v) on "travelingisrael.com" channel.

Its infuriating. These people are so miserably dishonest. And there are so many of them.
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@AlexFerguson-z8f what you think you see is not so. Iran and Russia have been spending piles of money to destroy Israel since the days of the Soviets. That's what now shapes wider public opinion. Secondly, that land belongs to Israel. They can have whoever they want live there. They've very kindly reserved areas A and B for the potential of a palestinian state, which they've offered 4 or 5 separate times. Not only did Jordan never offer them one while (illegally) occupying this land, nor repatriate them after losing it in the war they started, but they cleansed it of Jews after taking it in 48. Israel on the other hand let all inhabitants stay, and opened its borders to them,which remained so for 30 years until yet another round of mass violence caused them to close them. They offered to give the land to them for their own state on 4 or 5 occasions. Jordan could solve this problem tomorrow. It could have done so at any point from 48 on. But people only blame Israel, who has been the only country trying to solve it Israel has done more to help these people than anyone else, and it owes them nothing.
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Oren! Love your work. One thing- consider changing the title to "debunking anti Israel arguments". One myth is that people think these are necessarily the same thing.(the propeganda is so, but the deeper truths are not) Thanks so much for all you do!!
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@StHat20The days of mass indoctrination and an age of stupidity are upon us, "bro". What you THINK is happening has NOTHING to do with reality.
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@leoncampa you can tell you're an idealogue by your suggestion Israel started the war in 67. Massive troop buildups were observed in all involved nations and Egypt blocked the strait of Tiran, which is an act of war. Israel launched a preemptive air attack that saved the country, shortened the war and saved countless lives on both sides. The war was started by the surrounding nations however.
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@specialingu no wonder you found value in his letter. You are completely misled about the basics.
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@yansideabacoa6257 no. You need to stay away from Al Jazeera and your echo chambers. Leave the topic of Israel totally alone for a few years and get on with your life. You'll feel better dropping that burden of outrage, and both Israel and the Palestinians will be better off for your leaving the conversation.
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There are networks of jihadis shaping online discussion by altering, denying and deleting comments en masse. Theyre everywhere, always on, 24/7. The infestation is out of control.
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Jihad networks at youtube or throughout the community have been dramatically shaping online discussion re Israel. By altering, denying and deleting comments in large numbers. They are ALWAYS awake, always ready. If they have THAT kind of coverage for such a small time project, we must assume the grassroots infestation is WAY worse than security services have any awareness of. The west isnt going to make it.
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@reemg250 could be, the russians have stoked jihadism for 60 years to create an army against the West. But it feels more like islamists themselves, based on their behaviour. They are everywhere, online 24/7. They are tracking me closely, and there's no way I'm the only one given their coverage and commitment.
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They aren't joking when they talk about Israel though. They should just stick to jokes, it would be better for everyone.
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 @naser1109 I wish that were true. If all Arabs were like you that might be true. All the best.
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Phenomenal Oren. Thank you. A suggestion: Consider making a short of your excellent refugee bit from this video. Thanks again Oren.
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@reemg250 they wont let me answer you in the thread, they keep removing my answer. Ill try here and hope you get it. ...re your post: Could be. The Soviets stoked jihad for 60 years trying to create an army against the west. But it feels more like islamists themselves. They are tracking me very closely. Given their reach and commitment theres no way im the only one. This is a serious problem..
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@IstandwithIsrael236 yes correct. Subsequently they've put enormous resources into using it and the Palestinians as a way of generating an army of hate against the west, and toward destroying it.
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@reemg250 could be. The Soviets stoked jihadism for 60 years to build an army against the West. But it feels more like islamists, based on their behaviour. They are tracking me very closely, and given their reach and commitment there's no way I'm the only one. It's horrible.
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This is excellent Oren. And BANG ON the money. Thank you for what you do.
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 @Richard_James_Schueler you're a sick person. The "oppressed" aren't oppressed by Israel. Israel has done more to help Palestinians then anyone else. It's not even close.
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@poisonduckee @poisonduckee the name "Palestine" itself was given to the land by colonizers after they destroyed the state of Judea that had been there for over a thousand years. Arabs didn't arrive in the area until 500 years later still during their own colonizing conquest,on their way through to Africa. And Jordan sits on "Palestinian" land also. But this doesn't bother you. Only Israel makes your socks roll up and down. Why??
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The Arab Israel conflict is one of the smallest in the mid east. You wouldnt know it. The Soviets spent piles of money making it so. As well as radicalizing Arabs and flooding it with we@p0ns. The Israel portion of the Arab/Muslim conflicts has been sponsored by the Soviets. The end game for them is the wider west. Most likely its the same reason for the western capture by marxist insanity of CRT, DEI, Gender Hysteria, white hate, west hate, and the rest of the woke crap that includes israel h8 and islam 2st fetish. And we in the west have for decades been good obedient comrades. So stupid, so needless, such a waste. RIP
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Oren, a kgb general defècted in 1978 and wrote volumes about soviet state operations to manufacture hatred for jews and israel as a way of destroying the US and the west. His name was general Ion Mihai Pacepa. Please read him, and spread the word. Start with "russian footprints" in "the national review". Its only 7 pages and truly is a red pill..
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Fantastic video.
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Costanza's paying close attention👍.
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@nihongotomodachi9429 you THINK you understand the hatred in their hearts. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, who terrorized Egypt for 100 years and has its tentacles throughout the mid east. It also has deep connections to student groups in western countries. They are responsible for the death of the Arab Spring. That is why Egypt's border to Gaza is ALSO hammered shut. The hatred is religious. Period. Same is with ISIS, Al queda, Boko Haram, Al Shabab, the Houthi, the Taliban, etc etc etc etc. Notice that though they ALL have special hatred for Jews, their victims are overwhelmingly other Muslims . (Also Christians, Yazidi, Kurds, Bhai, etc. ANYONE who is an 'infidel' and who can't defend themselves. ) THAT is the reason for the hatred you witnessed on oct7. If not for that hatred, Gaza could have been turned into a paradise. Israel left completely in 2005. They've received umpteen billions of dollars from the entire world. And instead of paradise they turned it into an entrenched military bunker and oppressed and empoverished their own people. Just as with the other gazillion Islamist jihadi groups that infest Africa and the mid east. That is the truth of the situation, friend. Whether you can face it or not.
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@jigglybandito9505 do you not recognize a fifth of Israeli society is Arab aka 'palestinian'? They have full rights and access to Israeli society as any other citizen. There is no aparthied. The Palestinians you referring are not Israeli citizens and have no rights as such. They were offered full access to Israel after 67 but Israel shut the borders after Arafat's second Antifada when a thousand Israelis died from suicide bombings. You need to stay away from Al Jazeera and the echo chambers of your friends and internet. This situation doesn't need more 'opinions'.
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 @IGGYIGRA bullshit you're Israeli.
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My west hating jihadi hacker keeps removing my posts
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The west itself is losing. Its finished. Just waiting for the clock to run down on the facade.
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This was a good one Oren. Thank you.
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If anyone cared about these people, theyd develop the courage to recognize and call out the decades of effort to radicalize them in the service of others. The Soviet Union, also Iran, qatar, the UN (UNRWA, +++) and others. There was Nazi influence via Haj Amin Al Husseini and others. But the Soviets manufactured and installed Egyptian Yassir Arafat in ~64 to weaponise them and fully succeeded. In 67 these Arabs and Israelis got along well, mostly. They moved freely in and out of each others territories and sat at each others tables. The radicals were small in number, related to Arafat and other leaders, and violence related to them. Gradually Arafat/Soviet sponsored violence and impact on their culture and 'education' destroyed that relationship and the Arab culture completely. Theyre now among the most radicalized, indoctrinated people on earth, completely sacrificed to the Soviet/Muslim goal of destroying Israel and the West. Levantine Arabs are pawns and victims of all this, their lives and culture completely co opted by it. Generational suffering a result-and at this point they choose it for themselves. This will continue until the issue and culprits are named and addressed. It will remain the case whether they succeed in destroying Israel or not. Fixing it requires people quit deflecting blame to Israel. But nobody really cares about these people, except to use them as vehicles for their racist Israel hate. (Where were all these 'advocates' when Assad massacred 8000 of them, for nothing? Not a word from anyone. Not even from Abbas. Nobody really cares about them)l. Not enough to give up their blinders and hatred of Jews and Israel. So these people will never be released from this burden to live normal happy lives. So stupid. So cruel. So needless. But thats the truth.
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I love you Israel. (And Anwar Sadat- a great man)
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@Humanity101-zp4sq i think as usual you are willfully ignoring his argument. The Jews ARE the natives in JUDEA./Israel. Arabs came from ARABIA. Why do you shut your eyes as soon as facts appear before them? Have some courage.
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@bluemarlin8138 oooo you're good. "Canaanites"- no. That's a recent propeganda. Smooth attempt though, you're a pro. "Palestinians", so called from about 1960 onward, are Arabs, and as you said they didn't arrive until Muhammad's conquest of 680. Canaanites were present from the original Israel which had been destroyed 500 years before Arabs arrived. "Palestinians" and Canaanites have NOTHING to do with each other.
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@eb4452 you didn't watch the video. Typical. The Arabs were offered their own state. They could have lived in it as they had been, free of Jews. What difference would it have made had their been a Jewish state alongside theirs so long as they get to live their lives as they had been? Also, the Arab violence started long before with pogroms and murders encouraged by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, an ardent anti-Semite. Further, the Arabs were there in the first place rather than Jews due to previous conquests by successive empires, including Mohammad's Islamic conquest of 680 which spread Islam to Africa and the mid East by the sword. The Jews settled there alongside but did not engage in conquest. Why do you excuse and apologize the results of the violent conquests of others but then deny the rights of those seeking to establish a state peacefully, especially when the needs of all parties had been considered in the offer by way of two states side by side? Why are previous violent Muslim and Arab conquests acceptable to you as a means of justifying settlement to the region of Palestine while the Jewish people's purchase of land and then attempt to establish a state by legal administration not acceptable to you?
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