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Comments by "Jim" (@jimohara) on "Trump's criminally dangerous NRA speech to sick crowd" video.
Do they do that in Switzerland? All the men have to have a rifle stored? Or is that just something someone made up?
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The part where he led to saying ‘This is a spiritual problem’ was pretty much on the money. If you take the guns away, you’re still left with the psychos who want to go on kill frenzies. Less psychos ought to be the ultimate goal here and that ought not to be obscured
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@paradoxmo After that shooting in the Nashville school there was an incident somewhere in South America, Brazil I think, where a guy climbed over a fence to some sort of kindergarten and macheted four toddlers or not much older than toddlers, to death. I can’t remember but maybe even a member of staff got done in to. He must have been mental. That old guy you’re talking about must have been mental too, just not giving a fk. What’s wrong with people? Why is there something wrong with people? People have been killing each other since all they had was sticks and stones but this showing up at a school, out of the blue, to shoot the children of other people just for the sake of doing so and getting killed in the process? This is a relatively new thing. I can see the side of it that it’s because of the easy accessibility of the tools to do such a thing makes it easier and more commonplace for it to occur. Okay, I can see that. But why is the conversation only about gun control and not focused on why someone would use a gun to commit such an act? What would lead someone to do that? That’s the natural first question. But just totally bypass that because ‘gun control’ is an area where a political party can pick up votes from a ‘special interest group’, whether they’re part of the gun lobby or those opposed. Voters are being played and wherever that occurs there’ll never be a proper, workable solution proposed
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Is there data out there about the percentage of gun owners who don’t commit mass shootings?
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@mrb.5610 Thanks. I’ve just been Wiki ing it gonna check your article out now. According to Wiki(?) all Swiss militia have to stow their weapons at home including weapons (but not ammunition since 2007). I think I first heard that ‘fact’ about 20yrs ago and have sort of been wondering about it somewhere in the back of my mind ever since.
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@mrb.5610 It was a good reminder for me of why I have a lifetime of loathing of BBC journalism. No lie, hate is to strong a word, but from I was no age I’ve always treated the BBC with, let’s just say, suspicion. Even on the most innocuous stories I can’t bare them and I think increasingly more British people are coming around to my way. The attempted social engineering that comes out of that organization is just way off the charts now. It’s just plain as day now and more and more people are souring on it
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@paradoxmo Attempting to fix mental health through the medical industry oftentimes has a real poor return on investment. Happier homes make for healthier people ultimately leading to a safer society. But, sure forget all that, make it all about a gun control instead. That way people can be divided over the issue so politicians on both sides can capitalize on the issue and the population doesn’t have to confront themselves and the egocentric based society and start looking around for different solutions instead.
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@paradoxmo I’d be in agreement with what you said and I have no faith in a political solution to these problems. Sometimes problems can’t be solved at the level they’re created. Humanity, by in large, has gradually improved its condition over time. I suppose it’s up to me to take my place in trying to do my best and not expect any sudden miracles. If you’ll remember, in a few years, try and keep an eye out for any revelations about Beaghmore Stone Circles. I’m working on translating them but I have to work on myself first to give the best presentation to the world. I have to moderate my ambition in light of everyone else, I have to overcome myself and I have to deal with the expectation of not too much return in my lifetime but I do have it. I’ve got the mathematical proof of their layout and hence can prove what they were constructed for.
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@thegreatselkie6009 Doesn’t Mexico have it worse than the US? And they have stricter gun laws don’t they? Different reasons for shooting people in Mexico though. I happen to suspect the what the US really has is a people problem. And that’s going to take some fixing.
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@Minx717 I can bet there’s no data to say how many shootings didn’t occur because of simple defensive display of a firearm. That’ll never be included in any stats because it would be impossible to calculate. And I don’t understand how you can imagine no guns to ever be a realistic proposition in America given the current state of affairs with hundreds of millions of firearms. When I was growing up being found in possession of a firearm (illegally) would get you 7-10 years even without ammunition. Possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life was 15 years and yet there was a shooting pretty much every other day. Now, apparently, you can 3D print a gun in the privacy of your own home. Ammunition for it might be the sticking point and harder to acquire but I think the cat is out of the bag when it comes to firearms legislation in America. Finding a way to live with the current state of affairs is the way to go with it. This idea of stricter gun control has some merit but it’s seems to somewhat limited. There has never been a mass shooting without a mass shooter. So to my mind taking guns out of the equation is one thing but that still leaves behind the person that would be a mass shooter. That person doesn’t just disappear if all guns disappear so why is the current conversation being restricted to firearms ownership? I think Trump was right when he said ‘This is a spiritual problem’ at that NRA meeting and that’s the fact that someone like David Pakman could never admit. There’s no such thing as spiritual according to the likes of Pakman and all like him are firm and fast in their opposition to the introduction to such a concept to American governance
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@WarrChan Legal gun owners? That’s not a statistic you’re wanted to know. Might reflect poorly on a certain demographic
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@louistournas120 I said stricter not strict. And I’m not entirely familiar with Mexico’s gun laws because I don’t exactly plan on purchasing a firearm there anytime soon. I am vaguely aware about something that’s called the ‘Fast and Furious’ scandal were supposedly under President Barrack Obama American agencies were covertly shipping firearms to criminal cartels in Mexico for some reason or another. Something like that anyway. Really Americans need to take a lesson from Ukrainians on how to handle firearms because the US government will give them all the arms ammunition and munitions they want with no oversight required. Fill your boots Ukrainians! Hand yours in to the same bunch of clowns in government Americans!
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