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Comments by "Jim" (@jimohara) on "Michael Flynn Has Been Taking Hydroxychloroquine for 30 Years" video.
Maybe when you accuse Republicans of being fascists you’re just covering for the fact that you are racist? I don’t know much about American politics so could you explain to me why people who apparently advocate for less governmental control of citizens lives somehow manage to be fascists in disguise? That doesn’t make sense to me or, I assume, anyone else who knows what fascism actually is. Are they fascist just because they’re mostly white people? Is it true that Republicans don’t like people just because they aren’t white? I’d imagine that’s a pretty safe thing to assume about some Republicans but it’s a bit of a stretch to think that such people are representative of them all in any way shape or form
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Is that because you’re wearing a tinfoil hat atm?
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Hard to tell the way David cut him off when he was in the middle of talking about it
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Good quote. Taking crazy things seriously is also the best of fun sometimes too. I mean who’d have believed that one day a man could fly through the air in a vehicle of his own design hundreds of years ago? Turned out taking a crazy thing seriously was very much worthwhile. Also it looks like if you’re an novelist and essayist you can appear to be clever by using a word in one direction and then using it in the opposite direction in the same sentence without meaning anything substantial except that you’re trying to make yourself sound like you’re smart or something to the average reader!
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@michaeld4861 innocent people can find themselves being accused of politically motivated prosecutions
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It’s glorious to be able to watch Pakman gradually begin to lose control of his bullshit lies like this. 🍿🍿🍿. He knows he’s fucked now, can’t wait to see how or for how long he’s going to continue his pretense. Meantime I get to have fun trolling his viewers!! This is just great!
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@iannonya5282 I find the names chemists give to substances difficult to navigate myself. And in addition not many people read what’s written on their pill bottles every time they take their pills. I will concede that I do find his assertion that he’s just happened to have been taking hcq for thirty years hard to believe . I can believe someone saying hcq has been prescribed for a long time with very little issue but that he just so happened to be a daily user is a bit of a stretch without hearing him saying why he was taking it. In fairness to David perhaps he never gave a reason he was taking it and it was just BS he was talking but David could have said that. For interests of time David had to cut the footage at some point but David has a very strong record of being deliberately deceptive to his audience to advance his political beliefs too, so? I guess I’ll never know for sure because it’s just not important enough for me to trouble myself to find out. If I have to take a position on it now, just from what I’ve seen in this video, I’d say yes Flynn was bullshitting a little bit there about taking hcq for 30 years but David’s being a bit bendy too because it’s well known there’s nothing fundamentally wrong with taking hcq for the average person. It’s a well known safe drug that’s been used for decades. And when I say safe drug that doesn’t mean there won’t be adverse side effects in particular cases same as any other drug
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@obyone878 How long has hcq been available on the market? I’m no doctor but I believe there is a website called c19hcq that keeps track of the use of hcq. Also there are an awful lot of drugs on the market, I’m gonna take a wild stab in the dark and state that hcq is not one of the most dangerous of them. Don’t really remember any campaigns saying how dangerous hcq was until Trump happened to mention it. And after he mentioned it I read lots of articles saying hcq had been used for decades without any major issues. Also, Pakman quite clearly has an agenda and misrepresents the truth and obscures the facts in order to advance that agenda. He’s does his best not to state a lie he can be called out on but he’s a bald faced liar all the same
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@obyone878 isn’t ever other drug that’s used the same though? It’s not like hcq is specifically different in that respect from any other drug anyone could randomly name.
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@tabularasa0606 Yep. And James Mattis is a much better example of that
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@grantsmythe8625 Are you saying that if Obama let it be known that he approved of coronavirus gain of function research in a Chinese lab that was indirectly receiving funding from Dr Fauci Trump wouldn’t have allowed it?
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@doctorthirteen5727 Wasn’t it proved correct that US intelligence agencies were investigating people involved in Trump’s campaign without proper predicate?
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Well if he was falsely labeled a traitor he’d have more reason to than most wouldn’t he?
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@grantsmythe8625 Or else there’s something wrong with you and not a Flynn?
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One leg at a time?
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I know, it sounds like something a black woman would say
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@philliph8991 yes! Exactly what a racist black woman would say!🤪 last time I remember hearing that phase it was coming from Oprah Winfrey or Meghan Markle now that I remember.
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@robertirvine7938 yeah. It’s what I would call an Americanism. American English has a really direct way of taking and seems to very easily adopt expressions such as this that rather cleverly ease the social fluidity of the conversation. It sounds a bit jarring to a foreign ear but actually when you think about it it allows for ease of passage of a social exchange. It’s like when Americans are making arrangements to meet again and it’s not working out and someone says “We’ll take a rain check on that”. Bang. End of that part of the conversation. I was always like, what’s a rain check? Then I figured out that in other parts of the English speaking world it can take you like ten different sentences and potentially a whole new conversation to extract yourself from future arrangement exchanges with other people that aren’t working out or don’t suit when Americans have found a way to end such a situation amicably in less than ten words. My thoughts are that despite it utility the ‘rain check’ expression never caught on elsewhere because it would have been felt to be rudely dismissive to import something that wasn’t organically grown in common parlance but I can see this ‘speak YOUR truth’ having more traction because it encourages the receiver to freely speak and has a bit more oomph to it than asking what their thoughts are or what their perspective is. Does that make sense to anybody?
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@Liftheavyrustylbs Made the deep state panic so hard they ran a phoney investigation into him to get him out of the way!
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@ferox965 I don’t even remember what Flynn is supposed to be guilty off. Was he even accused of a crime to begin with? It’s all so complicated I’d need to be reminded of what crime was he actually accused of? Lying to the FBI about taking to Russians or something like that? Wasn’t actually illegal and nothing is suggested that there was something wrong with him talking to Russians. But somehow he’s a traitor for some reason. How? Fill me in here, how exactly do you guys figure he’s a traitor? There must be a reason for you to think that, please share
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@iannonya5282 I don’t have to worry Jewish space lasers as long as I keep the tinfoil hat on. It’ll just bounce back right in their faces! You gotta be smart and stay one step ahead of the game
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@zeddy mcdog guilty of what? And how does that make him a traitor?
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@j0j0dartiste21 what crime was it that he committed and was being charged with?
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@ludicrousone8706 yeah, I think the chances are pretty small that anybody on this thread knows more about the Flynn case than I do. In case you didn’t notice it seems like I called everybody out on their obvious know nothing comments about and you responded so weakly with ‘please do your own research’ because you’d no answer to what I asked. As far as I’m concerned that is what has occurred in this exchange. If you know something I don’t bring it and educate me otherwise it might be time to start doing a bit more research of your own
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@TotsNater Flynn’s problem was that he did actually comply and took the advice of his unethical lawyers. Once he got new advisers in they demolished the case against him. Honestly what was done to him should frighten all Americans. Unethical prosecutors, unethical judge, unethical defense team. Trump was right to pardon Flynn and end the case against him and imo he should have done it a lot sooner.
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@TotsNater he didn’t get indicted for speaking to ambassadors of foreign governments which was actually part of his job description at the time. If you examine the details of the case against him it’s a terrible indictment of those who attempted to prosecute him, the judge that heard the case and the legal team that failed to represent him correctly
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@iannonya5282 yes I know but shh! the foil’s actually made from aluminum. They’re never gonna find me now!
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@ludicrousone8706 well I can always be wrong can’t I. I know it may seem like a very remote possibility but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that somebody will see this and decide to step in and absolutely school me about the facts of this case. I think someone would have a better chance of persuading me that Flynn was dodgy in some way by stating facts that were unrelated to this particular case
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@TotsNater ‘back-channel negotiations’??!!! It was literally in his job description to begin to liaise with foreign officials as part of the incoming administration! Learn to recognize fake news. What was the content of those “back channel negotiations”? That he asked the Russian ambassador not to retaliate for the sanctions Obama slapped on Russia on his road out? It wasn’t a crime that Flynn had conversations with the Russian ambassador before Trump took office. That’s silly to think so. There wasn’t any alleged crime in the content of those conversations either. Flynn had committed no crime in either respect before an investigation was launched into him and he agreed to be interviewed. And it just so happens that the people in the FBI who started the investigation into him lost their jobs because they had no reason to do so. And the people that interviewed him (without going through proper procedures) concluded that he did not lie to them. And yet he was charged with lying to the FBI just because he forgot the precise details that he was asked about. He plead guilty to lying to the FBI because he was advised to do so by his legal advisers who withheld from his defense exculpatory evidence and when he got a different lawyer in the judge refused to allow him to retract his previous plea and considered it an indicator of guilt. Trump was right to pardon him and Barr was right to ensure the case was dismissed. I’m not going to argue that Flynn was some kind of Saint or that there isn’t potentially some other sort of dodgy goings on with him but this particular prosecution was a stain on the American justice system and if the truth was told about it it should frighten all Americans. I know you’re only trying to be good giving me the link and saying there’s were the crime is but it’s just not so. Flynn might be a scumbag in some other way, I’m not going to say he’s not, but this particular case that was brought against him makes some members of the FBI and DOJ look really, really bad. Why’d they bring this case against him? What cause had they to begin the case? How far removed from the original allegation was the actual case they brought against him? Was the entire purpose of his prosecution to fool the American people and hamstring the Trump administration? Sure you can look at the outcome yourself, when the plot against Flynn was foiled still the talk among the easily led is how Flynn managed to get away with it. With what???! Meanwhile Joe Biden and his family have been getting away with personally benefitting from being involved with politics and being in cahoots with foreign powers for years and if anyone dares breath a word about it they get banned from social media and ignored by the mainstream. It’s total madness!
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@zeddy mcdog I’m here on the off chance that not everyone on here is as dozed as you. Maybe I’ll find some shining light that can make me change my mind, maybe also I’ll run into lazy minded dopes like yourself that will maybe make me think maybe this Michael Flynn character IS a slimeball that was enabled by other slime balls. In all truth, I can’t actually fault that logic there. I can only add that the people who were acting against Flynn come across pretty transparently as slimeballs. David Pakman also comes across very very transparently to me as a slimeball. You, not so much. You more come across as someone who has a different opinion than me, a different interpretation of events, acting from a place of taking in very different sources . I am compelled to refrain from calling you a slimeball too because I don’t think you are, and I have to say , from what I’ve seen in this video, it did make me feel there was something a bit slimy about Michael Flynn. It wasn’t his best look that was shown here. So I do have my suspicions up but do I believe he sold the country out to the Russians? No I don’t believe that for a second. No way, no chance. No reason to believe that anyway.
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@TotsNater I didn’t think Flynn was a seditious prick. He did just come out and say something that didn’t strike me as right about the military coup in Myanmar and how that should be allowed or even encouraged to happen in the US the other day. I don’t know the full story but that sort of talk is not right. Anyway, why do you support the people involved in the political establishment that fabricated reasons to go against Flynn? And also are you about to argue with me that Hunter Biden just magically landed a high paying job with a Ukrainian energy company when his father just so happened to be in charge of US policy to Ukraine? Are you asking me that I’m jealous that my father wasn’t Vice President of the United States otherwise I could have gotten a fabulously high paying job in an industry I had no experience in in a language I couldn’t understand? Are you seriously asking that? Well I don’t know anything about building housing either but Joe Biden’s brother’s company got a billion dollar contract to build houses in Iraq even though he’d no experience in building houses. I must be so filled with bitterness and jealousy and resentment to have the audacity to think there might be questions to be asked about all this, is that right? Don’t get me wrong fair play to Hunter Biden for turning his life around and making a big success of himself and 10% to the Big Guy. Who’s the Big Guy?
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@TotsNater While I’m at it can you explain to me exactly how Flynn committed treason? What did he do that was treasonous? Why do you support the people that prosecuted him? Because they’re part of the government that he was about to replace?
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@wildgoosedreaming1 but he withdrew his guilty plea when he changed legal advisers and gained access to exculpatory evidence that had been withheld from him originally. He was promised no jail time if he just plead guilty of lying to the FBI. Then he got the evidence that showed that the FBI couldn’t argue in court that he’d lied to them so he changed his plea. That is not treason
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@ludicrousone8706 I know all the Flynn case and why he was indicted. It was a travesty of justice and an abuse of power that he was ever charged with anything. That’s what you and people like you in this thread don’t know. You’re all so clueless, so don’t ‘do your own research me’
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@TotsNater he got indicted because the FBI is corrupt. ffs, the incoming National Security Adviser is SUPPOSED to liaise with foreign dignitaries. Then the FBI ask him to meet with them for an informal chat and ask him to relate what was discussed and he makes a mistake and misremembers a phone call. And before you say anything, this is when the FBI has a transcript of the phone call in front of them, a phone call that Flynn knew was being transcribed at the time he was making the call and knew that the FBI could have access to. Interviewing agents concluded Flynn wasn’t lying, gave no indication that he was lying but their conclusions were overturned by their higher ups. On who’s behalf were their higher ups acting on?
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