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Also Raptors can't fulfill the ground attack role of the F-15E
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@MarkHarrison733 not really, the UK ended the Battle of Britain with more aircraft than it started with. The Germans failed in their objective, and the UK succeeded in theirs, so it was an allied win
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F-35 was never intended to replace F-15
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Iraq had an air force and a broader IADS, but it was dealt with before it had a chance to react
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Really? The Ukraine war is showing exactly how useful heavy bombers with large missile payloads can be.
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You're thinking of the wrong war. Gulf War 1 was a legitimate response to the invasion of Kuwait
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@MarkHarrison733 on which side?
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This was defence against Argentine aggression
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Argentina have never had a single legitimate claim on the Falklands. We can't return them to Argentina, as they were never theirs in the first place
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The UK designed a significant part of the Tornado and Typhoon. We even designed most of the rear fuselage of the F-35.
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Why would we ally with the people who went on to run the concentration camp system?
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@MarkHarrison733 so how does he know the briefing habits of the Luftwaffe?
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@MarkHarrison733 how did he manage that?
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Depends what you want to use it for
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Still a war, the deathtoll is irrelevant
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And common sense. In todays money, it is estimated each aircraft would have cost £240m
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@TomFynn maybe we give Wales to the Argentinians instead, in exchange for them dropping their claim on the Falklands 😂
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The square-cube law disagrees
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Take your weird anti-semitic vibes elsewhere.
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@rogerjohnson6676 no, it was not. This is simply not true.
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The F-35B is more capable than the Harrier in nearly every single measurable way. How exactly is it inferior?
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@timwilkinsongs you just read too much into a choice of words and got triggered, so woke of you.
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Mainly because it's so basic that there's not much that can go wrong with it, unlike more sophisticated modern aircraft
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Wrong war. You're thinking of the 2nd Gulf War
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It would have been a disaster. It was estimated that the 50 the RAF were planning on ordering would have cost around £240 million in todays money. What international customer would ever have spent that much on a single airframe?
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Only for the Red Arrows
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And financial reality. It was becoming an absolute drain on the MOD budget, and would have cost an estimated £240m per unit in todays money
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It wasn't the entire armed forces of any of those 18 nations by a long shot.
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The Falklands wasn't colonised. It had no indigenous people to colonise in the first place 😂
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Both main parties have done damage. Let's not forget that the Tories were responsible for the massive cuts to the armed forces, and SDSR 2010, in recent years
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Rent free, eh?
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..because that other nation invaded Kuwait
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The Black Buck raids were meant as a strategic show of force. As a result of them, Argentina was so scared of a mainland strike that they repositioned fighter squadrons. That hardly sounds like wasted effort.
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Don't confuse USAAF (which existed in WWII) with USAF
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It's irrelevant if the Belgrano was retreating or not, it was still a valid military target
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I think you'll find that lots of women served in support roles during the conflict, some in WAC units attached to the 8th Air Force. They all played a part in the combined effort.
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USAAF (US Army Air Forces) definitely fought the Luftwaffe
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@bulldog1066jpd Gulf War 1 (the topic of this vid) was a response to the invasion of Kuwait, and not instigated by either Bush Jr or Blair. It's not cold hearted to point out you are referring to a different conflict, just factual.
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No-one claimed it did. This clip is about USAAF, not USAF
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A sad yet unavoidable part of any conflict
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Pointless in the context of the Nazi war effort
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Those industries destroyed themselves with dreadful inefficiency and a total lack of economic sustainability
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It doesn't matter what direction the Belgrano was sailing, it was still a valid military target.
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And yet Russia is using its heavy bombers every single day in the Ukraine conflict
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And in this case, rightly so. It was a financial nightmare of a programme, sucking money from other defence capabilites with no promise of delivering on the obscenely long list of tasks it was being asked to carry out
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Wrong war. Gulf War 1 was nothing to do with WMDs. At least do a basic fact check before you chip in.
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You mean not blowing a ridiculous amount of money on an overhyped aircraft? £240 mil per airframe in todays money (twice as much as a Typhoon, for example)
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Wrong tense. Try 'were' rather than 'are'.
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Wrong war, you're thinking of the 2nd Gulf War in 2003. This video is about the first in 1991, in response to the invasion of Kuwait
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They serve different purposes. The F-15 and F-16 are multirole workhorses. Aircraft like the F-22/35, A-10 etc are more specialised for certain threats or roles.
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Very capable at their original purpose, terrain-following ground attack, but ultimately not designed to be a medium level bomber it ended up as
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£240 million per aircraft (in todays money) made this project completely unfeasible. To put that into context, that's 2x Typhoons or 3x F-35A for the same cost as 1x TSR2
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If you're going to criticise, at least make sure you're talking about the right war 😂
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We still do. We engineered large parts of the Tornado, Typhoon, F-35 and now Tempest is in development.
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Both sides had aircraft
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Regardless of whether it was retreating, attacking it was not a war crime as it was still a military combatant
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You think 'moral' elements are political? The moral component is literally one of the three components of fighting power.
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We've been scaling down since WW2 in recognition of the fact we no longer have an empire to police, or the income from it to fund a massive military.
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Not true. Von Braun worked on other rocketry projects too, and wanted to work on civilian rockets before the Nazis made him focus on V2
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The Russians haven't lost any aircraft carriers to a drone attack, and none of the ships they've lost in the Black Sea have been using the kinds of layered defence a carrier group employs, and were far closer to the enemy than a carrier group would ever sit.
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YouTube controls the ads, not the video creator.
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The channel doesn't set the ad policy, that's YouTube itself
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The USAF don't use Harriers, that's the USMC, and theirs are Harrier IIs that are being replaced with F-35Bs
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They were knackered, and Typhoon picked up the role
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@dt4816hyg they have huge budgets for mid life extensions, and basically strip their airframes down and rebuild them from a bare skeleton if needed. We don't tend to do this kind of heavy airframe hours extension maintenance.
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The USAAF is the Army Air Force. You're confusing the USAAF with the USAF
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And forward stationed NATO forces, including aircraft like this
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Not really, ads are controlled by YouTube, not the IWM.
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His assessment was narrow-minded, framed simply in the context of physical damage rather than appreciation of the larger strategic picture. Similar to how the Army at Dunkirk slated the RAF for being absent, despite the fact the RAF were busy interdicting enemy forces moving toward the beaches, saving thousands of lives in the process. Black Buck forced Argentine fighters to relocate further from the Falklands, effectively removing them from the fight.
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Wrong war. You're thinking of the 2nd Gulf War
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@bulldog1066jpd and 12 years apart
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Which one?
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Not true. The F-35 is more capable than the Harrier in basically every measurable way, and utilises a completely different STOVL system that allows for far more thrust than Harrier could ever generate.
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Take that feeble bs elsewhere. They weren't sat around chilling, they were enduring Nazi occupation like most of the rest of Europe.
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Chill out, it didn't say they did it alone
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There are TSR.2s on museum display
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The intake is nothing like that of the 262
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Tbf that's just basic budget balancing. The TSR2 programme was hemorrhaging money we didn't have as a nation.
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