Comments by "Demetrio Tozzi" (@PUARockstar) on "The Icarus Project" channel.

 @Mooon123V it's you who's making things up
21
 @CloneDAnon they never was called Rus in historical documents, they never were Rus
5
@CloneDAnon I hope you trust russian archeological community. Like you do with other myths. Since it's them that have a great exposure and work at Novgorod with digging into the ground, examining wooden bridges etc. and it's their conclusion that there were absolutely no Novgorod before 930, before Oleg presumed death at all. Another suggestion: to any humour to be funny it should be based on reality a bit, not fully at nonsense ahistorical takes just like you present. Like a totally nonsensical "Ukraine never existed" take.
5
@CloneDAnon also why do you think that Novgorod, Pskov, Rus and Moscow were the same entity? They weren't. Moscow specifically conquered Novgorod by force. For one example, by that time, Novgorod has a distinct dialect that was somewhat different from Rus and especially Moscow speech, their local culture. And there was no states at modern definition at that point at all.
5
@Solaire_au_Frohmage Rus isn't russia. Archeologically Novgorod didn't existed prior 930s. When Oleg came to Kyiv, that existed for several centuries at that point, it was ruled by Igor already, who's, unlike Oleg, was a confirmed historical person by foreign sources as well, while we who Oleg (died 912 before Novgorod was a thing) exclusively from Primary Chronicle without any confirmation from other sources.
4
@Solaire_au_Frohmage those are not hoops, those are documented facts. To answer your hoop question - fully - no one, just like there's no heir to Roman Kingdom/Republic/Empire, despite we can see their tradition and nation(s) to this day. But in more laxed sense, it's obviously Ukraine, via Kingdom of Galycia-Volynhia, then Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Samantine and Rus, then Cossack Hetmanate, which used (and been used upon) words like Ukrainian and Rus interchangeably and synonymously. Are also were known as Rus lands through all that time, and we have evidence from outsiders and from Muscovy itself that they specifically said that going to Rus meant going to Ukraine land. Originally Rus meant Kyiv, Pereyaslav and Chernihiv administrative area, or just Kyiv in the most strict sense. Moscow Tsardom was renamed into Russian Empire in 1721, when Peter I decided to formally and totally annex Rus lands (that were at his semi-autonomous protectorate under his ukrainian friend Mazepa at that time) after defeating Swedish forces (to which Mazepa joined to Peter's great disappointment). That's basically when the Moscow claim to Rus arose. Despite even Ivan the Terrible called himself already some ridiculous titles some of which had no connection to reality, while being a Horde subject himself.
4
In what reality?
2