Comments by "ODDBALL SOK" (@oddballsok) on "TIKhistory" channel.

  1. so watch out for homeless artists...
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  2. "we re here to help you" words that give the greatest fear..
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  3. or these airplane pilots were Fi- Storch spotter planes pilots..they did not wear parachutes either..because they could land easily and flew not very fast or very high.. and leave it to the chaos of soviet enemy to mention they were fascist fighter and bomber airplane pilots... (akin to US soldiers in Normandy all swear they encountered Tiger tanks..but in fact skirted Pnz 4s.....).
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  4. I get the point you are making (not being an economic specialist..or, more importantly , not interested in these subjects..yuch)..but all the hammering on socialism and socialists, make you seem the capitalists..and especially the UNREGULATED capitalists seem to be the archangels for humanity. I am sure if the capitalists can do whatever they like< then children would still be working from the age of 10, we would have 7 or 6 days workweek of 12 hours a day, and all men would be laid off by the time they reach 35 becoz the capitalists will find more cheaper and more hard working laborers elsewehere in ever desolate places.. Moderate and competent regulation is the answer..but as in all isms, once a force gets the upper hand, there is no stopping it gaining more and more control over society. Power corrupts, whether it is socialism, communism, capitalism... it is a human thing..
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  5. well..that is too simple stated. In fact Frost and the lack of support from the other british batallions prove that it isn't and wasn't a simple matter of "go to the bridge and hold it a couple of days. Around Arnhem there was enough german forces to kick the shit out of the british paras even if ALL the intended battalions had arrived in Arnhem center. So too were there enough german troops and called in reinforcements around Nijmegen center had Gavin sent all his (say half) first day troops into Nijmegen center. By the time XXX corps would have arrived as it did the germans STILL would have disrupted and harassed any combination of handful US paras with spearhead of XXX corps armour in the rubbled center of Nijmegen. The carnage that historically happened in Nijmegen WOULD JUST AS MUCH TAKE PLACE in Nijmegen had Gavin moved his paras immediately to the nijmegen center. And as XXX corps PROVED historically that it would NOT move armour and vehicles further over the bridge to reach Arnhem, so too would XXX corps not advance further if Nijmegen would not have been cleared for a radius of say 5 kms. You must realise that the use of paras to "take" a bridge is NOT to be able to "hold"the bridge against inf and tank attacks (they are incapable of), the ONLY tactical advantage of para s taking a bridge in surprise is to SAVE it from being BLOWN UP by enemy engineers. And in case of Nijmegen bridge luckily this happened, but not to the grace of the US rivercrossing feat, but through a heroic dutch resistance that cut the wires further inland away from the bridge.
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  6. also the History deserves to be remembered -guy had an issue with one of his recent videos.
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  7. shush..Mark Felton might get an idea..
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  8. and the V of the antitank unit , represents the spread out legs of the tankgun. And the anti aircraft v represents ??? the speed of an arrow of the projectile aimed at high altitudes ???
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  9.  @billsvoboda4459  tried harder with catching german bullets with their teeth and spitting them back !
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  10. 0:01 the fastest way to demonitize..
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  11. A man doing a lifetime job of writing lies..and many other men and women reacting to this via more books. The amount of paperwork wasted is incredible. STILL it is good to have all of them the possibility and FREEDOM to write their thoughts and opinions. We, "we", today, are FAST going in a direction that ANY different opinion than that of the diverse "elite" is to be exterminated (pun intended). Look no further than Youtube policies.
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  12. huh? There are many strange assumptions....I come back on this later...... uffff.
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  13. Arnim is a geographical place;Arnim, Stendal, Germany (might even go as far as a conversion of Arnhem, Arnhim, etc..). VON Arnim means some sort of nobility family claiming that area. ArMin is simply a misspelling. (perhaps the misspelling happened in Napoleon times, and got mainstream/accepted since then..there are more Napoleontic namespelling change examples...).
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  14. this is sick... are you also building your own rockets ?
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  15. i am sure the german technicians were aware of that and were practicing this..thus..this has been incorporated in the numbers of useless spent unrepairable tanks...
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  16. sensible thing to do: military coup to oust Churchill....but, no...
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  17. now reward yourself with a return flight to Riga...only 200 UKP in high season !
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  18. reason italy in russia ? Brothers in Arms. Simple. Many many more germans in Libya...and Greece..
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  19. with the girlfriend ? seriously? No girl likes this kind of thing. Or do you mean your righthand ? 9 hrs of wanking ? that makes sense..
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  20. just from the thumb: nazi area; 500 brothels with 50000 prostis..about 100 per brothel. In west europe likely , majority voluntarily...economic deprivation or not (it was France that declared war on germany...so who´s government is then responsible for this "effect"). But...make it 2000 brothels and 300 girls over the 5 year war period: that is 600.000 mainly voluntary prostis... make eastern brothels actually enforced prostis..and you d be talking (70% troops on east front) about 400.000 women. That is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way from 10 .0000.0000 women... "is this really the case" ?
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  21. sorry...bored.
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  22. the same Steiner ?
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  23. WHY didnt he ask for donkeys, horses ...AND CAMELS ?
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  24. actual problem of the moment: Pharmaceutical companies without restrictions ask ridiculous expensive prices..and certain medical insurance companies are OBLIGED to buy them (or not , and leave the patients to ..rot)..and the government/taxpayer HAS to fund it...or not.. Different countries, different solutions.
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  25. hope it wasnt a case of "" unknown cause of death" which is highest cause of deaths in canada and...everywhere..
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  26. he is reading "the internet".
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  27. assuming that a pitiful 5th army is CAPABLE of cutting off entirely the german 10th +14th armies.....through MOUNTAINEOUS terrain...in which the US army had TERRIBLE problems of manouvering..ALL THE TIME. Cutting of the Germans...dream on...
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  28. hello japan ? hello ? no answer. It seems there is no japanese left of 1945.
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  29. and after 1st sept 1939...becoz guernica 1937 was also europe..also german troops...but not in ww2...
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  30. eventually he did too..but far too late..both blackadder and Pienaar
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  31. the question really should be: to what point? What is the clarification he wants to bring to the attention of a military history oriented audience ? What is "the problem" ? then "who is the audience". Then figure out how simple /complex the model should be.
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  32. 10:19 btw...having 3000 men, halftracks with 20 mm (TWENTY MM!!!) fastfiring antiaircraft guns , Armoured cars !!; and RUSSIAN antitank-guns ..my bet is that collection is a SERIOUS DEADLY threat to perhaps "elite" UNPROTECTED paratroopers that have NO TANKS, NO ARMOURED CARS (but jeeps) , NO ARTILLERY (but small mortars) ... Djeeesh..talking about being biased... I bet the "luftwaffe" personal KNOWS how to use the damn flak guns on their trucks ?!?!? Or were they Luftwaffe cooks and luftwaffe stenographers ??? three thousand cooks and stenographers ????
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  33. instead of "only"Crete, go for a general overview of all the para/glider attacks in WW2 and why some worked, some didnt and , lesson learned, why MODERN parachute regiments DO NOT and WILL NOT ever do (large scale ww2 style) parachute attacks anymore...
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  34. honestly I didnt like the sarcastic video style....for short while okay...especially the wiki numbers surprised me (spot on..the weakness of the sources)...but to extend this tone for 25 minutes. hmmmm. If someone, at some point searches for Manstein/Kharkov and ends up here first time, he 'd think you re an idiot. It does your series no good. Rather had you tell it straight the decent historical unbiased way...
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  35.  KLOLWTF  or , redefine: "how are you so certain, Stalin wasn't the devil ?"
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  36. so the 1 in 4 US soldiers actually capable of firing at living enemy soldiers is a myth ?
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  37. In addition to the shortsighted hindsighting blame on Gavin, 82nd, 508th; Getting the Nijmegen main bridge LAST makes sense if you consider this; The planners expected NO germans at the betuwe Island. The planners DID learn that SS corps was at Arnhem before the 17th but EXPECTED the SS to be HELD up IN Arnhem (by the 3 british columns arriving at the north ramp and thus TIGHTLY secure the ramp so that not even a tank or halftrack (as they would!) could pass). At Nijmegen, there was LITTLE defense expected, but the planners DID expect german reinforcements coming straight from GERMANY; Kleve..thus THROUGH the Reichswald, and THUS through Groesbeek. Thus Gavin HAD TO MAKE SECURE his LZ and defenses against strong enemy troops coming from THE EAST. All the bridges on his west could be taken AT ANY STAGE as long as there weren't SS troops getting FROM Arnhem to Nijmegen (and even so they were supposed to be battle fatigued..). As the smaller bridges at Grave and Mook could be EASILY blown up (and were already prepared..this info must be known by dutch resistance and thus allied intelligence), it was MORE IMPORTANT to get those IMMEDIATELY and the Nijmegen bridge last (Nijmegen bridge was NOT prepared for explosives, especially when Model would not have it!). Decisions to assembly, organise and march to hither or tither are done BEFORE the jump. So naturally the movements of the 508th are explained with the above assessment in mind. Unfortunately, it TURNS OUT (and that information only slowly filters through the ranks) , that the SS WERE able to move a stream of armoured vehicles PAST FROST to NIjmegen, and more importantly, more SS troops were able to get FERRIED over in a CONSTANT STREAM via the pannerden ferry. And THAT was the killer in the MarketGarden project; the planners simply did not think of possibilities for the germans to insert troops inbetween Arnhem and Nijmegen. Had the planners dropped paratroops on the island (near Elst) on 17th sept than THAT would have been the key of success; the whole "island" would be (more or less) a secure supply LZ for the british and the 82nd if need be. And any attempt to ferry over german troops along the pannerdencanal would be sighted, harrassed and finally stopped by troops and called in airsupport (if radios would work)). If one is a simpleton (John Burns), you may even blame FROST for letting Graebner (and kampfgruppe Henk!) PASS by his defense positions at the Arnhem north ramp to get to Nijmegen which eventually would prove to be too strong for the first men of 508th arriving at the Nijmegen ramp. But in reality it is the planners to blame...
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  38. ***** in fairness, we are talking about few hours of "delay" (in yr view) or rather wait for sequential preconceived orders. What are a few hours ? Seriously,ask yourself: WHat difference would a few hours make in terms of getting your men in force (columns) to a battle location, and equal what does a few hours mean to the enemy to get his troops lined up in their positions ? It's not as if you have 2000 men marching and 5 seconds before 18.00 hrs there is none, and 5 seconds after 18.00 hrs you have the whole 2000 in position... On each and every second you can compare number of men versus the other and be able to tell: americans arrive earlier yes they have more than germans: 200 yanks overcome 40 flak germans;yanks win. Or the reverse: Kmfgr Henk arrives in part 300 germans, versus 50 yanks; Germans win. But in BOTH occasions  you MUST continue counting until your maximum number of men have arrived and see the balance shifted; But hey sorry; German SS drip in , later by more massive numbers: 2000 men...and the 508th and perhaps other reserves ? Not more than 400: Result is THE SAME: Germany wins. Your fantasy is to have moved ALL OF 82nd and the HQ of Browning with guns in their hands to the goddamn bridge; how much ? 4000 ? Then all the germans may be stuck in Lent...but next day the germans come out ofthe woods; Reichswald,Groesbeek,the second drop gets shot from the skies and on the fields...result 82nd surrounded in Nijmegen. Day laterXXXcrps arrives somewhere at Grave bridge which has been abandoned for Nijmegen, and gets blown up: End of Market garden. Monty's fallus ends at Grave instead of Driel.
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  39. 0:32 that is kinda poor statement. I am sure there are many german books about the german "perspective" of that battle. But they weren't translated into english, or they only relate to the actions of a single commander or regiment (as the germans can't boast on a complete victory or even a strategy on the whole battlefield..so there is no incentive to publish such a "Markt Gärtnerei" book). Your statement and the "surprise" statement on the book by amazon and the likes only proves the ignorance of anglo publishers and readers about other points of view. Not only on WW2 but anything related to antagonists (Vietnamese in 70s ? Russians during cold war and under todays Putin ? the french under napoleon ? etc..etc..).
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  40. Yes, because Tik implements the latest of historic data from various books and authors. And it shows the differences with the common perception of the 1970's-1980's.
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  41. couple 100s miles further south.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya
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  42. and this has to do with military history because ...?
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  43.  @Centurion101B3C  and that 's why many war veterans appreciated Kelly Heroes movie even if much "seems" nonsensical or anachronistic. It made perfect sense!
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  44. jesusss you uploaded this nonsense again ? Failures: planners (under Monty and Browning who took 10 essential planes on the first day with nonessential staff that cld hve been filled with US 82nd troops that COULD have taken and HELD the Nijmegen bridge); they FAILED to understand that the germans had a HUGE insertion point via Pannerden (and Looveer) ferry to put SS troops AND ATguns AND tanks to the "island" and up the Arnhem bridge and DOWN the Nijmegen bridge and south ramp. No 82nd rifle group could EVER hope to stop the steadily growing influx of german troops there and then on sunday and following monday. The majority of 1st Airborne SHOULD HAVE LANDED on the Island from day one. At least the para dropped infantry.... the poles managed 4 days later... And lest not forget Brereton who DENIED the troopers more than 100 more transport planes that CERTAINLY wld have made the difference, even WITH the extra SS troops and tanks at hand. If the building sucks at the foundation (Browning, Brereton) then any construction fails.. ...and of course 30th crps was BLOODY SLOW !! "no sense of urgency"....it is proven by the fact that the few tanks that went across the nijmegen bridge did NOTHIng afterwards...because INFANTRY were still busy fighting at the "west" side of the south ramp, and HUNDREDS of shermans were lying IDLE miles SOUTH of Nijmegen doing FUCK ALL!! Nobody ever wondered how 5 shermans could get across the bridge (east side of south ramp) , then BLOODY SEND MORE OF THE SAME after them ?????
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  45. yeah and no...the truth is that Britain was the to be beaten überrival ("Empire" rings a bell?), so ANY other economic/militray upcoming power IS a rival to the British and THUS the british ACTED on capsulating that new rival. The bad spirit is thus the british ...the british had the economic and diplomatic and military power, and ANY threat for that would naturally mean that all strings wld be pulled to offset any expansion of the rival anywhere in the world (diplomatically, economically, trade agreements, pay other countries to field their troops for the british cause ..for money or agreements, until at FINAL stage the british wld THEMSELVES field their soldiers..). The way britain has acted during their era 17th C - 20C, is no less different as USA is acting right now..1950-2020.....think of it...
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  46. italian infantry had back up from artillery and antitanks and airplane cover, and had good supplies..yeah no wonder they performed well. ISNT THAT ALWAYS THE BLOODY CASE ?? Good performers were ALWAYS backed by good support and cohesion with neighbouring units. "duh"
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  47. PFF John Burns...repetition,repetition,repetition.. You must be Stalin; repeat the same lie thousand times and the people will believe it for truth.. tssk
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  48. 44:50 what is this exactly "not prepared for war" ? I get it, wrt getting/developing state of the art equipment that is lacking...but as regards to men and training; what is it exactly ? Those days professional soldiers were trained in a year..and conscripts in the german british,US army were trained in 10 weeks which eventually went down to 6 weeks. So the fighting spirit can be created within 6 weeks ?! What is it then that men dare to risk their lives ? The defenders (Greeks, british, etc..) simply are pissed /annoyed and WILL do their best to right the wrong. But the agressor invading neutral countries ? The german soldiers did it without asking questions. Might this been because of the drug Pervitin ? The year long indoctrination to Hitler Jugend infection ? And the italians could not get the same drug ? Were not hyped by the Roman historic legacy ? Is it to do with the hang for adventure of NW europeans (Brits, dutch, french, germans, norwegians) as opposed to the homesickness of the italians ? Even today, young italian men STAY with their mums the longest compared with all the european youngsters. Is it indeed a cultural thing ?
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  49. so where is proof or your socalled " facts" ? 1)assembled ready at 3 pm 2) drinking coffee 2 hours (on the exact same landing point?) 3) doing nothing, having no activities at all Please quote references to books, pages and year it was written and on what those references were based on.. Good luck. And while you are at it: Find out where the 54 shermans (60-6) of XXXcrps were doing (drinking TEA?) on sept 20 in Nijmegen ?
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  50. No they weren't. Merely stating the fact "late order to send a party to the bridge from Beek as Gavin was furious" is no proof of 1), 2) or 3). Interestingly, the 508th DID achieve THE MOST IMPORTANT feature of a paratrooper attacking a bridge on sept 17th: DISARMING eplosives of the said bridge; they attacked the Postoffice in Nijmegen which held the eplosives controls (being set up). No doubt this information was pointed to them FROM THE dutch underground (or do you think paratroopers have an 7th sense smell for this?). I assume that given the german opposition (with a MG42 set up) the few 508th there had NO SENSE OF URGENCY to get up the bridge as 82nd reinforcements and 30crps would SURELY follow up in a day (but of course, they didn't). In HINDSIGHT you may blame them for not sacrificing themselves on sept 17th...but in reality you can't blame them for not pushing hard enough at that early stage. So much MORE allied troops did NOT PUSH HARD ENOUGH on the 17th and 18th  and 19th and 20th. And many of them were british. Can you guess who ?
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  51. 0:48...it is not "just" bending a corner and go after the Ruhr..it is find your allied Armies (those under Montgomery and not Bradley to be more exact!) in a lucrative unobstructed position to fan out in all directions into nazi germany; the manufacturing heart the Ruhr, but also straight towards the east to Berlin, and straight towards the North Hamburg/Denmark...ALL of it would be open for...Monty ! Locking up german (secondary) troops in Holland is only a small advantage. There never was serious thought of allied armoured fights/progress into Holland (too many obstructing waterways, too many civilians, no strategic bonus). But by going towards the Zuiderzee alone, there won't be any improvement in clearing Walcheren and the Schelde for Antwerp or getting Rotterdam harbour. Germans were still there, demolitions were still there, bunkers and guns were still there. There is or was no need for further "support" from germany. (But it could have lead to a psychological effect that german troops other than the absolute necessary (demolition engineers) would have pulled away over the Afsluitdyk...but that takes some time, and would not be noticed in Walcheren until months later) The only important "support" that would be cut off is that of NEW V2 rockets that were sent to The Hague area and fired on London. But later it showed that the Germans fired V2 from Friesland (near Leeuwarden) in the North of Netherlands. Still, RAF bombardments of V2 sites were effective enough, so there was no imperative need to adjust a landbased thrust towards potential V2 launching sites. Besides V2s could still be moved over Friesland over the Afsluitdyke past Amsterdam to Den Haag still with a closed Zuiderzee end at Arnhem.. No, if the allied wanted a big sea port asap, then Market Garden was a waste of time, effort, materials and casualties. Matter of fact was that clearing Schelde project was not planned, and developed until AFTER market garden failure. Then it "suddenly" dawned upon them that for any further push (over a broad front) they'll need a big port closer by. And Antwerp was thought to be liberated and functional, but its approach proved to be dangerous. Market Garden and the north salliant thrust was simply a too good to let go opportunity for Monty personally based on the reports of German panic in the west. Any negative comment or resistance report or recon photo was dismissed because the benefits of a success were too great. I don't blame Monty and the other planners for looking away from a single recon photo of "a" tank, of "a" report of SS in the area (that were hammered and on the run before and thus needed refitting and rest), on splitting the drops over three days; speed in starting the project was of the essence, the para brigades were sitting idle in UK ; it was a luxury for Monty and he knew it. To NOT use all that reserve and missing out on a great opportunity would be wrong. It was a gamble, the allies (Ike included) lost, and the HQ carried on with the normal war progress. But this time Bradley and Patton claimed most of all further resources.
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  52. pfff. so much bullshit in one message: just because YOU write a post, it is supposedly the 'truth' ?? pfffffrt.. you failed on references..everytime..and the ones you forward, prove not what you claim. And Monty WAS in the planning. Monty DID SANCTION the splitting up in 3 airlifts...there he SHOULD HAVE stand foot against Brereton (who was the actual incompetent dick that screwed up the chances of success of the WHOLE project).. How old are you Burns ? 16 ? So full of pro brittania ?? All british generals were top ? So explain then how brits failed in 1940, 1941, half of 1942..and only with MASSIVE equipment deliverd by USA and MASSIVE crews (bombers, destroyers, convoys, ) were inching their way ...in Egypt ?? In terms of men and material less than 10% what is deployed in Russia. WHERE WERE THE BRILLIANT ENGLISH COMMANDERS ? Where were they in Malaya ? Allenbrook was perhaps the only smartest of the lot. Horrocks FAILED in the clearing of the west Rhine banks (Kleve, in 1945)..and was TERRIBLY SLOW. And all the germans could place there were a number of skilled paratroopers..and they were mostly GREEN !!
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  53. ***** BEF Dunkirk IS a retreat. Mersh Elkabir sinking ruthlessly a partner fleet (and the french admiral kept his word in 1944 to keep fleet from german hands). Brits developed the Englandspiel because of incompetence. Norway: retreat. Britsih lost GREECE. British lost Krete (even though having more men at the island). British drew troops and equipment away from Libya when they were in an advantage to CLOSE the deal..instead they (churchill !) squandered their resources in Greece. Luftwaffe had to redeploy airforce for the upcoming events in Barbarossa and were not defeated...it simply was concluded it was not efficient to continue given the barabrossa campaign coming. Uboat (and luftwaffe) threat on convoys and shipping NOT contained or thwarted UNTIL the receipt of dozens of american destroyers. Singapore, malaysia, Birma: incompetence on incompetence.  Repulse and Pr of Wales againt the Jap combined fleet: idiocracy. Italy: after fall of mussolini the germans occupied and set up defenses WITHIN DAYS..the brits (and americans) werent able to pass the practically handfull of germans in over TWO YEARS to get to Austria. RN fleet was always 5 times bigger than KM. Big deal to win sinking of a single battlecruiser at a time. Germany got their stuff overland. Imports via shipping was not a big deal for germany once west europe and middle europe was occupied.The only thing mattered was oil. That was always and before the critical thing. Really, not one British high ranking officer impressed with better than expected resullts. Monty was good, knowledgable but too safe playing. He never delivered MORE or FASTER than expected (like the likes of Rommel, Guderian, yamashita). Alanbrooke did his good on strategic and logistics level, but could not undo the incompetences of the generals in the field. Ultimately he too failed on the Poles (what did he say to Stalin vis a vis the Poles?...exactly NOTHING). W.Slim did his best in Burma (re)introducing jungle guerilla warfare ..but the scale was too limited, too late and it took too long. (and he may have molested  young boys ?).
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  54. John Cornell Monty retreated in Dunkirk.  and Dunkirk..was a 'successfull' retreat..hmpf..now who is using Hollywood (or  Pinewood) bravado ..? The blitz bombing was meant to get Uk to signing peace/out of the war. There was never a plan to invade england. As it was never planned and studied BEFORE the invasion of France. The laklustre attempt to put together a rough sketch of Sealion at teh moment of opportunity was just that. Again, for you to bring that up is using a myth. To pretend to the world (to FDR) that UK was strong and really invincible (please support us big US of A..because we are actually NOT so big and invincible after alll...but pssst).
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  55. exactly! Another good brain in this debate vs the likes of TIK and John Burns. And that comes all the way from Brazil !
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  56. 7:39 very smart transfer over to Boris...lol
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  57. gosh...to think that it was always hidden in plain sight in the name: National Socialism (Deutsche) Arbeiter Partei.... almost like free masonry..print the truth, but everybody believing it is not...
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  58. 0:50 the bottom references are really really really a huge difference to many other joetupe historians. Even though, many of them mention "a" writer , here or there...your putting the exact reference at the exact time is simple quality. You might even "copyright" (?trademark?) that concept...
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  59. Another clarifying thought about opportunities and dropped opportunities: Once the british were present on "the island" in full force, feeling secure enough to consider it "under control". (say, 22nd sept). WHY didn't they set up actions to CROSS the maas left and right of Arnhem ? After all, the river is quite SMALL there (so much smaller and slow streaming than the Waal at nijmegen) , and easily passable by any mediocre swimmer. Once the military is present IN FULL FORCE with tons of artillery. It should be a textbook excercise to cross a damned little river ?!?! Right ? The germans were able to ferry over quite a few tiger tanks over the Pannerden ferry. Let alone the many halftracks , trucks and SS men. Certainly the germans on the north bank would NOT be able to defend ALL along the maas against crossing brits all over the place ? With also full command of the skies ?!?!? Nope, they DECIDED to BLOW UP the Arnhem bridge . !!!!! The british command conceded that they do NOT wish for further advancement, and made sure the germans would not try anything bold (raiding?) going south either. This shows the british were NOT INTENDING to land in Arnhem with Frost hanging to his fingers and FIGHT INSIDE ARNHEM CITY like they just experienced in NIJMEGEN. Their idea was to enter Arnhem and SPEED THROUGH to the Ijsselmeer. UNRESISTED and UNCHALLENGED. In other words, ONCE it became clear that there was german RESISTANCE in Arnhem (17th and 18th sept), there was NO POINT in reaching Arnhem fighting. Frost or not. The british command had ALREADY given up on Frost !!!
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  60. chieftain is quite overrated....rewatch the episode with a girlfriend in a stug in a museum.. the amount of BS within a minute is staggering (females disrupt the bloodstreams of tanknerds...always)
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  61. Exactly, Brereton is the big man to blame in its conception. Funny thing is, I never get to see any proof or example WHY Brereton needed his planes URGENTLY for other important bombing operations in that week. I am sure that the ONLY thing his pilots were doing were more of the regular bomber runs that could have waited the 5 days more.
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  62.  @YuryTimofeyev  i dont think so...do the US rangers of 20 years old in Afghanistan 2012 remember ANyTHING of how their father and grandfathers were treated in the Vietnam and Korea battles or at home ??? Easier now with TV and internet ...but was there TV and internet in Tsarist 1900 times ??? The difference is FORTY YEARS and TWO generations and DOZENS of purges......
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  63. poland cannot be detached from Chzeckoslowakia (münchen 38)..britain and france WERE already committed. In TIK's fantasy it wld be better to have NOT attacked Poland 1939 but stage the soviet assault from Prussia and Romania and Hungary (at a moment when hitler wld led the russian to believe they, the soviets, shld start invasion of poland..and thus have russian troops concentrated at the polish border...).
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  64. hey, this map 30:56 looks quite similar to the EU ?!?!?
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  65. what is that BS quote at the end "if you know how capitalism WORKS, you never have to worry about POVERTY again " ?????? Never mind capitalism vs socialism...try and find 100 poor people living in the streets and TELL that to them in their faces...
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  66. I said before..yes gavin made an error..but IT DOES NOT MATTER. If Lindqvuist 1000 men cant take the bridge at 18 september 02:00 am (as there are MUCH MORE than 50 SS..but say...1500 ???)..then why do you ASSUME Gavin and Lindqvuist is able to WITHSTAND 1500 attacking SS ..PLUS more SS coming down that way....PLUS more tanks or armoured vehicles (over the pannerden ferry) ..PLUS well directed german ARtillery..directed from the Nijmegen Valkhof Park bunker , if he had secured ONLY the bridge top at 19:00 hrs..?! And if the germans are very capable of sending reinforcements after reinforcements from Das REich (Kleef, Emmerich , Duisburg) ..and the paras DO NOT ..why would these not go through a B-line through the exact same Groesbeek Reichswald ??? i.e. The germans were MUCH nearer with THEIR reinforcements than the Allied with their stuck up 30th and extra paras...
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  67. Yeah, Tik stumbles here… probably to KEEP his channel and pleases the YewToob
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  68. 12:44 Bankers? that is a truth ! No more wars if no more bankers...:)
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  69. check this critique on Poulussen book: http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel/2411/Lost-at-Nijmegen.htm quote translated: With "Lost at Nijmegen" author R.G. Poulussen especially revived the discussion about the developments in Nijmegen and he closely monitors the first 24 hours of the fighting in and around Nijmegen. The conclusions go far for the sources and the burden of proof. With the same simplicity, a completely different conclusion can be drawn from the text of the booklet. The 508th PIR had all the freedom and possibility to undertake an attack on the Waal Bridge. This also happened in the first 24 hours and twice. Both attacks were rejected by the Germans. Could they have done more? Possibly, but the source information in the book is not convincing enough. That the late taking of the Waal Bridge had an effect on the development of Market Garden is actually an open door. But that precisely this delay was crucial for Market Garden is also not convincingly demonstrated in the book. With equal ease, other delays in *Market Garden can be identified as just as crucial*. (!!!!!!!) It is praising the author that he is trying to revive the debate around Market Garden 'new' life with this work. His work can contribute to the overall picture of Market Garden. His conclusions go too far, however, to be able to determine on the basis of the contents of the book. The book lacks a good source account for this (an indication of the source is not given, it is only from the notes that some sources have been used) and it is mainly limited in its sources. By quoting other primary sources, a *completely different picture can be outlined*. It is precisely these other sources that have not or hardly been used. This involves sources of non-American origin that can explain the German and British positions in their entirety. The book does not reveal the positions and numbers of British troops that entered Nijmegen. Nor is it supported with sources which German troops were present in the Betuwe, in Nijmegen and the Reichswald or could be transported there quickly. This does not mean that the author would be wrong in his conclusions, but that the book gives me insufficient sources, say proof, to support the conclusions.
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  70. 34:58 shiiiiit..this looks an AWFUL lot like how the "internationalists, neo-communist, globalists, one world government WEF, climatechange ideologists"plan to screw up the western industrial world and DEVOID it from farmers and farmland, while the "east" nations are the ones with 'energy sauces'oil, gas, coal STOP giving these fuels to the west...just as is happening in the course of 2023-2024-2025....
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  71. TWO HOURS for WHO is Eric Hunt ??
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  72. ..and this video was..not important, and not urgent...so how come it is uploaded ?
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  73. 21:16 sorry...i go along a long way..but these pieces of text of Goldstein are PURE BS !!!
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  74. Goldstein....yeah..what else can you say...
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  75. you know what would be better ?? a 33 minute video !!! yeaaaay
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  76. "naturally" the FIRST point of starting a (outer or any) ditch/defensive line is where a ROAD or BRIDGE enters/crosses this imaginary defense line. SO "of course" there where the Kalach road leaves for Stalingrad you will find the soviet workers started FIRST. But all the works started or planned over the rest of the large unsupported perimeter was of course wasted effort. (they had better made series of satellite "defense islands" around the 4th defense line...see 1943 Kursk defenses set up...).
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  77. not guerillas...bandits !
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  78.  @TheImperatorKnight  Yes.. the visuals (maps with units) do enhance the message. In fact there is no book that has that many map situations to follow what is actually going on, on stalingrad , like your videos. ...The wide curving arrows in "normal" war history books maps are simply too "broad" (of time space). And there is your answer to the type of book to make: make a book with plenty of these situational maps. And including your "was this decision right or wrong at the time" for this or that leader..adds to your own narrative. It certainly would fit in a ww2 library. I , for instance, never realised the german situation in september 42 before stalingrad was THAT hairy with so much soviet troops on the northern flanks. And Operation Crusader likewise...the maps..man...the maps!
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  79. 27:40 ..hey, paddy ashdown..was a politician ? liberal ??.. I wld not trust a politician (professional liars) to write an honest unbiased history book..
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  80. good metaphor: chess game France, Go game russia... Is it your own idea ?
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  81. Regarding Pienaar..i only base this on these videos...but perhaps the reason for his lacklustre commitment is the FACT that he saw his South African comrades being SACRIFICED before by the ENGLISH incompetent HQ..he sees AGAIN how a NON-english NewZealander division AGAIn is sacrificed and SENt into a german kessel and AGAIN without PROPER english support. It is as if, according to british imperial traditions and past time alliances (wellington), the british on "purpose" use up their "supporting" allies to grind the enemy, in order to arrive LATE to claim victory.... And Pienaar simply didnot wish to sacrifice south african blood for english'glory....
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  82. more and more bureaucrat controls, censorship, regulations, oppression....the objective being to create a unified army.......gosh, it sounds like the EU.
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  83. so cunnigham flies around hq to hq...but recon airplanes canNOT cover the battle area ???
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  84. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-E9ZsactbM
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  85. to Ijsselmeer....also because stopping mobile V2 platforms getting to west Holland to fire on London...
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  86. Fred Klein so you say what we already know: the Island is difficult to cross or conquer with tanks IF it is in hands of a smart adversary. And it was the germans that had it FIRST. British (tanks and armored troops) would therefore NOT have an easy walk over of even the slightest number of germans at ambush with only a handful of ATguns..
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  87. dude John and TIK, you are both heavily biased. Even when your quoted books TELL and SHOW a different thing. In all the other places I supported my case where 82nd is not to blame for the whole operation as such. (Let that sink in; ONE of FOUR huge armies (3 para and 1 column) is to blame for a WHOLE operation...: IMPOSSIBLE!... in factt here are FIVE huge armies: the airtransport is the fifth...THEY held the key to failure or success of this mission...).. It really seems you british are sour losers, very unsportive.
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  88. again..check your own copy of Kershaw and look for 508th, and Henk,  and Graebner..and Sonenstuhl or Zonnenstuhl.
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  89. ***** aha..and there you make an assumption you can't make. The success of shooting up Graebner men on the Arnhem north ramp in my opinion can't be copied over the south ramp of Nijmegen. 1) Arnhem had houses nearby and a bridge sentry house ..nijmegen didn't; a lot more difficult to defend in concealment. 2) Graebner was a fool..oh no, that is depicted in the movie..experienced Graebner REALISing the danger of concealed enemy infantry positions in the houses knew you can't STOP in front of them, and could not do harm with MGfire  from further on the bridge (and being exposed to possible 6 pdr guns elsewhere along the Arnhem north banks or allied airplanes) decided to RACE past them and end deeper in arnhem to join up with the other SS troops.... unfortunately the halftrack drivers had no clear view on the bridge road, had difficulty avoiding mines, looking out for them means EXPOSING your body up from the halftracks, smoke, etc..and when one stopped , the rest got stuck as well, with clear view from the brit paras ON TOP of them, then it was prize shooting. The same thing would be more difficult to achieve for 82nd on Nijmegen (and that would have to be EARLIER on the day than Frost did his trick on Arnhem..). Earlier means less prepared, less troops in position, less material brought in , less mines...even Frost let the 1st Graebner recon group pass by without firing shots....obviously! There is a difference between ARRIVING at a position and having CLEARED or PREPARED  or SECURED a position  
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  90. ***** Good to have books quoted, but like you said each is merely a single point of view of a single writer. It is strange that your 2 quotes are diagonally opposite (american vs british), but in favor of the americans (devils advocate if you like) i say these things which is PURELY logic: 1) To march off parainfantry that got a heavy beating, crossing the Waal and almost out of ammo ELEVEN MILES to Arnhem at night is MORE STUPID than to have the same men RIDING the shermans in that direction. The logic option must have been the units TOGETHER not just the one single. But even IF chosing EITHER tanks or EITHER infantry then OF COURSE tanks would fare BETTER. And why ? the PROOF IS that the 6 tanks got LUCKY and THROUGH the mayhem of SS in Nijmegen..which PROVES they can get by dug in enemy infantry (without panzerfausts) without a hassle. And if there are not german 88s in Elst..(and John Burns says there wasnt..and who cares about the tigers..they were INSIDE arnhem , right ?) then WHAT IS STOPPING THEM ? 2) I have a REALLY HARD TIME believing that veteran 82nd troopers who made it through the Waal crossing are KISSING AND HUGGING ordinary sherman tanks. and would be likely to say "i have to surrender to you " when the first british tank commander walks in the commanders defense post as to MISTAKE him for a german ???? Please do a STUDY and find out WHERE in the whole damn world did an AMERICAN  elitist officer EVER acted the SAME ?? Maybe the first US -DAK encounter in Tunesia ? but those were GREEN soldiers untrained in anything. And not even THERE you had these displays. (edit) Oh there is a much better example!!:  The relief of the airborne troops at BASTOGNE when they were relieved by the TANKS of PATTON !! Wow, if there EVER is a reason ad opportunity to KISS and HUGG tanks then it is that moment with your OWN countrymen tanks!!! And yet; NO SUCH THING HAPPENED. Gosh , I wonder why ?!?? I have no proof of either story, but neither has you..but we can at least USE OUR brains and logic to assess each version. Please!
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  91. ***** Aahhhh!!!!! so if there WERE three Tiger tanks  on the island and you make it seem IMPOSSIBLE for 30crps and the 4 shermans  to overcome that obstacle, then HOW could the 30crps  race simply through the very same Island to Arnhem if the boys of 82nd somehow had managed to keep the bridge all the days before..in waiting for the 30crps. More on the point, if the claim is there were 3 Tiger tanks (and do we presume they were solitary or were there SS SUPPORT TROOPS too ???) how do you expect the 82nd remnants to MARCH OFF towards them without the shermans ?? Anyway, you didnot answer the TWO points I was making about the "kissing the tank" statement  and the which makes more sensible advance; tanks or infantry or combined given the information of the ACTUAL battle moments BEFORE. Becoz how do you tell there are Tiger tanks if THERE HASNT BEEN CONTACT WITH THEM before ? Carrington didnot know. Harmel didnot know. The 2 broken shermans were malfunctioning and one hit by a pak gun. So WHERE does  the commander of the 4 shermans get the info that there were Tigers ? The same info that Gavin got that there were panzer elements in the Reichswald ? The information that you guys frown upon as myths and old men and children ? Proof enough that you guys do SELECTIVE PICKING in order to absolve the 30crps ill performance. Hell, even your hero FRost blamed the bad performance of the Guards when he visited a memorial at Nijmegen in the 1950's. (I recently read about it on a dedicated website).
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  92. I show you reasoning: 1) If first you claim three tiger tanks (and do you guess they were operating closeby or dispersed on 3 different locations ? ) are too dangerous for the 3 shermans and handfull of 82nd men, but the next day you say lots of Guards and many more tanks and at least a couple of Challengers were able to knock out the three tigers..then why didn't those "lots of tanks" and "challenger tank" were sent over the bridge the day before ? Oh right; they were witheld as RESERVE. (read = drinking tea). = choice of commander to keep them in the back = FAILURE of 30crps Horrocks to push out ALL HE HAS GOT up the bridge WHEN THE IMMEDIATE OPPORTUNITY AROSE. .. 2) If the "lots of tanks" and "challenger tanks" were involved in dispersed battle actions "all over the nijmegen place" fighting SS that CAME FROM THE ISLAND to Nijmegen area and held up the 30crps for a COUPLE OF DAYS..then how would it differ if these SAME SS OF THE ISLAND PLUS 3 TIGERS would have assembled and concentrated on Lent and DENIED 30 crps and their "lots of tanks" and "challenger tank" a pass through to Arnhem ? .. The ONLY DECISIVE FACTOR of the succes of Market Garden is the 30crps deployment. If a paratrooper has a bridge or not, loses it and retakes it, or loses it again is IRRELEVANT IF the bulk of the 30crps MANAGES to get their shit in arnhem. Whether they fly over the river, they swim over the river; irrelevant. The paras getting and KEEPING the bridges is nice, but if it WOULDNT then it is the job of 30crps to get the PONTOONS, the Baileys bridges out in top speed and get the shit moving. The SOn bridge PROVES  the correct mindset, but not the URGENCY and PREPARATION (it took TWELVE HOURS to get the elements forward and bridge 30 mtrs?!) . Urquhart TRYING to hold on to a bridgehead in OOsterbeek where there is NO BRIDGE and the rail bridge was lost, proves the SAME CORRECT MINDSET as a 30crps in full force in Driel with all the aircover and engineers and artillery WOULD BE ABLE to biuld pontoons over the Nederrijn. Yet it is the 30crps to FAIL in the URGENCY to send in their mass of troops into the Island to establish the last link. I read in another link that originally there WERE supposed to be britsih airborne troops on the island on day 17th but those were removed in favour of Ginkel heith... whoever made that decision should have been courtmartialled.
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  93. ***** I have another LOGIC puzzle for your John Burns; IF the 30crps "with lots of tanks and a challenger tank" in FULL deployment in the island was capable of THRASHING the germans , SS and Tigers and what all not, then WHAT WAS STOPPING THEM FROM SIMPLY ROLLING OVER THE ARNHEM BRIDGE INTO FOKKING ARNHEM ???? Frost was gone YES..but they only held a number of houses. The bridge was STILL INTACT. The SS in arnhem were , as you put it, old men and children and secondary soldiers , cooks and stomach diseases battalion. The challenger tanks were INVINCIBLE ?!? So go then ? Over the bridge !? Take Arnhem by storm ! The guards were such superheroes ? not ? OOOOoooh riggghht! It was the 30crps that BLEW UP THE ARNHEM BRIDGE !! And WHY is that Burns ? Can you think of a solid military REASON to blow up a bridge, the VERY bridge that the WHOLE MARKET GARDEN project was about (actually not ;) ) ??!? No ? Because to SAVE THE ASSES of the 30crps against the "weak" SS in arnhem. The 30crps was STRETCHED and were having a TOUGH time fending off all kinds of attacks on the sailliant further down the road, and were having a DIFFICULT time to advance in the boggy fields east of Elst to clear out the germans: it took WEEKS (oktober-november). Hardly an image of a powerfull british army ?! Explain that Burns..  
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  94. and isn't it ironic that the biggest Rhine bifurcation was the WAAL at nijmegen and the 30crps effectively HAD crossed the Rhine and all they had to do is do the same as the germans at Pannerden ferry:PUT TANKS ACROSS THE pannerden and you were in free accessible german tank land ! Only a small river Oude  Ijssel at Doetinchem (which  was there too after Market Garden ;p ) and go go go into das deutsche Reich?! Yet NOTHING was established in the rest of 1944. So tell me, how come ? How come germans were able to ferry tanks and troops over , under the ever watchfull RAF at Pannerden, and Horrocks could NOT do the same ? Not in september, not in october and not in november.. Just look at it at google maps: the river looks like nothing...
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  95. The 508th was not able to overcome the garrison and flak teams on the bridge, AND move over many (??) 6pdrs in Lent, dig trenches and make a sound "cordon" , meanwhile fending off SS infantry and halftracks..in the space of couple of hours on the 17th sept. Let alone stave off the further reinforcements on the 18th. You MIGHT want to fantasise over what if ALL the 82nd troops that were at Groesbeek heights had moved to >Nijmegen and ABANDONED the LZs for the drops of 18th (moved to 19th) september: Well, maybe yes, gavin would have the Nijmegen bridge....for ONE day. The ragtag piecemeal troops form the reichswald WOULD have overrun the LZ , hence the next drops would be shot at /obliterated, totally LOST. But Gavin would be holding the Nijmegen center and south ramp. Fine. The XXXcrps arrives neatly from the SW. The NORTH ramp however he would NOT be able to hold, or control. Too much SS poured in Elst and maybe as close as Lent from the Pannerden ferry (Just a ridiculous 7 km = 5 mile distance!! straight EAST) with armoured cars, stugs, 88s and finally Tigers. Any concentration of Sherman tanks over the bridge would be knocked out (from distance 88s , 75 At, Artillery barrages, Panzerfausten in Lent, and finally a tiger tank) when sighted. Sighted on the bridge, sighted going out of Lent on the dykes...all-the-time. XXX would or could clear out Lent, Elst, the island and Driel, but that would take MANY DAYS. And even so, a couple of Shermans arriving at the south ramp of Arnhem ramp would NOT be able to support Frosts men. And frosts men would not be able to support the shermans if trying to run OVER the Arnhem bridge (already full with rubble). The perimeter around the Arnhem north ramp was already so small, it had no effective meaning for the original plan. The Arnhem center was full of SS, tanks, heavy tanks, artillery screen, Tigers; there is NO way that XXXcrps could DO anything. In fact, if the XXXcrps were so supernatural, they would have done so on the 21st, 22nd or 23d..after all, XXXcrps is brimming with tanks, and what did the germans have in Arnhem to stop them ??
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  96. Browning went for a more important task: pissing on the Reichswaldborder and have a photo taken from that occasion. (talking about neglecting tasks...tssk)
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  97. Gavin still made the incredible error of at least not sending scouts to the Nijmegen bridge on day one to see if there are explosives prepared on the bridge and/or harass the engineers that would prepare those. But I know he DID have immediate contact with dutch resistance (there was a dutch liaison jumping with him) and thus he could be informed that there were no preparations at all OR the resistance had their men already ready for cutting the wires (I would expect that !). But there is another rumour that a dutch resistance double agent was with Gain and MAYBE he made Gavin believe that a german assault was to be expected from the Groesbeek woods. And it did..but later, and (through the help of the 3rd dropped paras !!) pushed away. But HOW is Gavin or the resistance to KNOW how strong or how experienced the set up german assault would be if you HAVE NO GERMAN INSIDE INFORMATION ? How do you think INTELLIGENCE works on the HQ of the 82nd in the Groesbeek woods ???? Hindsight should not influence your judgement. 49:10 is a very bad assessment TIK.
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  98. John, it is actually YOU who put all assumptive blame on Gavin without having prove and morever without DELVING into arguments to support or disprove yourself. I started out in thinking, that it can't be so simple as you brits (TK included) portray it. A gut feeling (and I am dutch, no particular yankee lover, nor brits affectionado..I'd like to squash BS arguments). And lo and behold, gradually I read more (Try It never snows in september of Kershaw..OH ? YOU CLAIM YOU HAVE READ IT ?) on books and websites, find out about EXACT times per day that this or that report or action or sighting took place. And based on that information anyone sane must come to a different conclusion than you guys do. A group of  508th of 82nd DID attempt in 17th evening to take the bridge . Yes much later than 15.00 hrs when they landed  and started taking their first objectives (prepare roadblocks)..but Gavin must have reminded them or Lindquist in a epiphany suddenly remembered ?. But the german garrison at the bridge would have been SUFFICIENT to defend against a mere 50 men of 508th that could be spared at the 17th eve or afternoon.(There were A LOT of tasks to be acquired by the 82nd !!!). EVEN IF the 50 bold men had displaced the garrison (say loss of 10 men ?), then they would be NO MATCH for the reinforcements that came from north later the afternoon 17th. Prove "at 20.30 hrs the 508 tried to attack Nijmegen but were REPULSED). MORE and MORE germans and SS poured in and that WHOLE Kampfgruppe managed to do an attack FROM Nijmegen to the LZS of 508th and PUSHED that sector AWAY. So if ZE germans are CAPABLE of doing THAT on the 18th morning, how would the 508th with 40 men be able to keep them from retaking the nijmegen bridge IF they had installed themselves on the bridge  (in houses? in ruins ?NO , there is NOTHING to gain cover in a 150 m radius around the ramps!!!) Instead of frolicking over Gavin you should ask yourself WHY isn't there a paradrop or glider drop planned on the Betuwe Island in the first place ?? Any landed troop there has the advantage to help take the bridge ramps of BOTH Arnhem and NIjmegen. Reserves could be sent NORTh AND SOUTH depending on the battle situations. (and added bonus : stop german reinforcements coming from the pannerden ferry..perhaps) It is INCREDIBLE that that did not take place. That location was the key for success, The brits gliders (jeeps, carriers, AT) should have landed near Elst and a few coup d etat parachuted paras could have landed in the Arnhem park at the north ramp and Nijmegen hunnerpark ..et voila..the few 20 mm flak guns would perhaps hit a couple of dakotas but place a good concentrated number on that and the job would have had a better probability of succes. AndWHO were the ones that denied the planes to get too close to the bridges ??
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  99. and if the 508th had taken the bridge on 17th 15.hrs (muhahaha), how would this have changed the fact that 10th SS is capable of annihilating the 82nd ? Then 10thSS can always annihilate the 82nd ?! until the time has come that XXXcrps arrives....soooo...the speed of XXXcrps is the essence..
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  100. is that your educated answer ?
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  101. is it important ? is your age important ?
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  102. wow..you start the insulting process. Let it be recorded. Well, john..you are hypocritical; you demand references to books, but you yourself FAIL to provide them when asked, and even when you come with claims out of a hat you don't take the effort to provide substance. We expect Copy and paste sentences, not throw in "a" title.. You are evasive; when confronted with counter arguments you do NOT counter those arguments..you simply IGNORE a sound debate. Instead you come up with stupid useless questions on unrelated matter. You are ignorant...and arrogant. You appear to be a historadical; you BELIEVE in something and everyone and everything SHOULD clear for your BELIEF. There..and I said these without being insulting. This is simply the truth. That is how you are. If I want to insult, I'd be stepping it up..there is room for that..but let's not.
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  103. hear hear geronimo..
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  104. Finally a detailed book! Poulessen? I have to look out for it, appears to have many fine detailed reports. Though it specifies more precise where the miscommunications and inefficient time usage was about, it shows simply more of the habitual "cock-ups" that happen in war. And those happened with all the other battalions as well. In the end , the few hours delay and the too few men deployed didnot matter; (1) were there no SS reinforcements (few of them came via the Arnhem bridge when FROST WAS ALREADY THERE but let them pass) then the one battalion could still take the bridge. (2) were there so many SS coming over the Nijmegen bridge north side (that they were too much to be attacked as historical on 17th and even attacked on 18th) then no one or two or three US battalions would hold out at Nijmegen ramps for two days (maybe one day, and only the city buildings NEAR the south ramp, but NOT the northh ramp at Lent). It takes some time (couple of HOURS) to dig in, and especially set up the few 6 pdr guns...if they were able to deploy them there in short time (508th PIR had ATs?). And even IF 50% of first drop 82nd had been moved on Nijmegen north and south ramps...WHERE would the accumulated SS troops in Lent be doing all the time on 17-18-19-20 sept ? Let's assume for a fact that the 82nd would even hold the LENT side: Then the SS would surely make a SCREEN around it...few STUGS would be deployed (via Pannerden or even past Frosts men as they didNOT hold the Arnhem ramp..only a few HOUSES around the ramp)..the SS artillery would hammer the unprotected 82nd until 30crps arrival. But MOST SURELY the excess SS would be turned on Frost 's men and they would have been pushed out days EARLIER. So that when the 30crps FINALLY arrived in Nijmegen 19th sept they would find a thick cordon in/around Lent, a strong german artillery ..and an Arnhem that would be totally CLEAR of british airborne troops. The Polish that would land later at Driel would ve been cleared up even faster. Not even a chance for a "bridge head" in Oosterbeek for Urquhart. As for the 30crps shermans that are idle; The Guards Armoured's Coldstream Guards Group still was needed as a reserve for the Airborne division. What does this mean ? as a RESERVE ? As in drinking tea ? as in doing nothing ? as in hanging around in the back waiting for further notice and developments ? as in drinking tea? This left but two armoured groups to go across the Waal. Even those did not make it until next day, D plus 4, 21 September, primarily because of diehard German defenders who had to be ferreted out from the superstructure and bridge underpinnings." Superstructure of a bridge ? That is the metal works - The span ! That is maybe a few snipers or pioneers laying charges (like in the movie BtF..which witnesses told us was fake....) Bridge underpinnings ? That is indeed the location to set charges; pioneers; infantry thus. Why is that so hard to deal with ? Again proof that yet ANOTHER unit is SLOW and NOT AGILE enough to fight to the MAX. Hence it is very hypocrite to lay the blame of the WHOLE MG project on just the men of Gavin. (I was at the "celebrations" in Arnhem and Nijmegen last week..on the matter I only got to talk to elder guides and museum historians and they all have the same answer that the project failed on many accounts, and most of it in the planning...but one could not blame a single unit or person for it..).
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  105. You know the idiom; it is in restraint that the master is revealed.? The mentioned Rommel, Yamashita, etc..have SHOWN their masterly skills with LESS men and material but BETTER skilled operational moves. Monty, in his succes times NEVER was hvaing less men or material. He was ALWAYS having a 2 to 1 majority and at the point of attack it HAD to be something like 5 to 1 majority. No surprise you can advance "without" reatreat. But a true MASTER would have advanced faster, and stronger and further with the same deployment of men and material as Monty had. And that is what Patton showed. PERSONAL drive ! Monty is typical to all the other british commanders; command FAR in the rear and NO intervention during the battles (until perhaps days later when the moments of opportunities are well lost...).
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  106. John Cornell tauchpanzers; a flimsy link to an obscure  website is no proof. Tauchpanzer were already concepted for crossing small rivers. And in order to prepare for the opportunity to perhaps land at some beach (cliffs ???) in Kent some engineers probably tested and extended the air hoses. But it is not proof that it has been ordered for HUNDREDS of tanks and INSTALLED on them and those tanks we DIRECTED at the canal ports. And Dunkirk "escape" was because the panzers were put on hold, (for one or other maintenance or regrouping or tough on HQ directive or chance to negotiate with english reason), not because the english and french made such a formidable defense... The situations (hatred!) with Stalingrad and bataan were COMPLETELY different . Oh I forgot the "Horrocks Shermans were split all over the place to attack german INFANTRY around 82nd dropzones" yeah right...go and learn about WW2 tank tactics...
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  107. While many of the KNIL indo soldiers deserted after the first fighting encounter with the japanese (and thus were seen to be NOT reliable..as they in majority felt for a form of indonesian independence..)..the same thing didnt happen in India... oh no..it DID happen in MALAYA where LOTS and LOTS of indians all too easily gave up , deserted..etc. and hoped fpor a japanese support for the indian independence... Now the many anglofile history books do not mention this or delve deeper in this..just "indians performed poorly...under poor british command"...but a WILL to fight/resist is not ONLY dependable on good luck and good leadership.. the only difference between the malice of the dutch KNIL forces desertions and that of the indians in Malaya is that the indians DID give a good fight while the hours seem to give them the belief the defense worked...but once the masses of jap bombers, artillery and tanks rolled in, they just the same gave up on the british imperium, only too happy to surrender to the japs.
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  108. 2:42 and not at all becoz of illumiati & freemasons dictates ??
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  109. was he at Stalingrad ? .. .. -- then....no...
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  110. 1:30:00 hitler not liking aristocrats ? Not liking the obviously naturally ARROGANT yet often incompetent ARISTOCRATS ? Who screwed up the lives of the german soldier in the ww1 trenches and did NOT CARE about their condition ? THOSE aristocrats ?
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  111. 15:05 "Crapp"
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  112. Now that 's food for thought ;)
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  113. wrt USA Alaska canada sarcasm aspect; still not the same. The "Volks"deutschen in the Corridor, Dantzig, Sudeten and what all not..ARE and WERE original Germans from the 2nd Reich. Nazi Germany wanted them to GET BACK into a WHOLE Reich.The 3rd Reich. Between Alaska and Washington state..there are and were never Americans..(let alone marking Alaskan inuits?' as Americans...). This aspect ..this DRIVE to get BACK the original people into the ORIGINAL greatness of an Empire (be it german, be it Austrian, be it ..keeping Great Britain together against Scottish <and North Irish> separatism(!) ) is something the anglo historians never seem to be able to understand... While you see it in many, many more examples; the Turks under Erdogan?> go for Ottoman erstwhile empire. Russia under Putin ? > do not give in into east Ukraine separation and the Crimea. But all the anglo historians always think that if there is a "treaty" ( which Germany of course did not desire in that form, but was evidently forced upon). there are borders imposed...then ..the new people "simply" HAVE to accept it..and shut up..and pay off impossible debts... Because..hey...diplomats know better than the local people how borders should run..(Yugoslavia..Middle East..ahum).
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  114. 13:50 the symbol represents two large titties tied up by two bra strings... aint that obvious ? ;p https://books.google.nl/books?id=6VRhIvCiU2wC&pg=PA34&lpg=PA34&dq=113th+division+arnim&source=bl&ots=U8tOCdTMeY&sig=Bxz8cErEiDPyGOwu_POERDhySeA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip-LWf89XZAhWjAsAKHa38CdkQ6AEIUDAF#v=onepage&q=113th%20division%20arnim&f=false Ar nim ... like the one in Tunesia...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Jürgen_von_Arnim ArMin is not common german name.... at all.
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  115. ffs NOBODY cares about hatay...not now and not in 1944 and certainly not historians who focus on the antagonists of the WW2.
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  116. Zuiderzee (Sea) = when it was OPEN to the open sea. ijsselmeer (Lake) = when it was closed off (save a lock) from the open sea.
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  117. 8:45 love it , that you do this (whole video) without reading from a paper, or screen, or with many edit cuts.....aaand you weave in Claus..
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  118. At first I disliked this idea of splitting up the narrative in soooo many episodes...but now I do enjoy it! Kinda like the many Netflix and HBO series of award winning plots with top actors where so much more time is spent to develop and explain and deepen the characters and their doubts and misunderstandings. kudos ! (did this plan come naturally, or did you learn this from some sort of "client binding sales course"? )
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  119. wiki : Schörner was a convinced Nazi and became well known for his brutality. By the end of World War II he was Hitler's favorite commander. Following the war he was convicted of war crimes by courts in the Soviet Union and West Germany and was imprisoned in the USSR, East Germany and West Germany. At his death in 1973 he was the last living German Field Marshal. he didn't..
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  120. 56:54 ..Trump 2024..duuuuuh
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  121. very good... and no annoying commercials inbetween.. :D
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  122. he is learning german...a handfull of russian...never promised to learn japanese...so , helas, no.
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  123. bazingah
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  124. drunk tommies and krauts in spain for decades....nooooooo thank you.
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  125. 1:00 if this was americans doing this to the italians it would have been made into a HOLYWOOD BLOCKBUSTER movie! (isnt there ANY italian movie about this feat ?..with gina lollobrigida ?).
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  126. 59:07 yes Pienaar is reluctant..but look at this map with unbiased eye and you see "AGAIN " that england has thrown its dominion forces as cannonfodder in the jaws of the enemy: New Zealand and S.Africa....and WHERE are the english troops ? I only see gatehouse.... And Pienaar probably saw this too, felt it too, remembered the sacrifice of the other SA brigade.. The sentiment no different from 1940 when churchill URGED the french to keep on fighting in a political union IN FRANCE against ALL THE NAZI might while the english stayed high and dry in Britain (keeping their RN intact up in scotland, and more importantly their fighters and bombers UNUSED "prepared"for defense of ONLY britain... "political union"..mon cul), and would gobble up all the french dominion possessions around the globe..for "free". Result: ' non mercy'... edit: if you wld counter it with pointing to the split tank assaults of the english in the beginning assisting the south africans in the middle of the cauldron...then you forget to point out that EXACTLY the bulk of the english INFANTRY was KEPT behind out of fear of german counter PANZER attacks. The english TANKS were supposed to deal with the DAK panzers. Sort of like noble cavaliers 'rescueing'the SA troops in the middle. SA infantry butchered, and english tankers snatching the VICTORY. But why then, weren't the ENGLISH infantry sent in into the cauldron too ? And if german panzers are 'unhealthy' for english infantry, wouldn't that be true for SA infantry too ? I am sure Pienaar was present when all these decisions were taken at the expense of the first SA infantry sent in the cauldron...
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  127. I am no food expert, but I dont think your end conclusion is right. a) if DL not go to war with RU..then still hunger and DL people starve in 1944 anyway..even if west allies wld not have landed in france. =wrong. If no DL army active in RU then a lot less soldiers were drafted and lot less military wld have to be fed. a german worker requires LESS FOOD than a german soldier...including OVERHEAD (staff, civil servants). german soldiers demobilized and working in DL on fields wld yield MORE food. also, during the RU invasion, a great number of polish and russian POWs worked on german farmfields..less effective perhaps..but farming could take place on paper. so why the HUGE drop in farming produce? goebbels mentioned it, and it is a god given certainty: WAR IS HUNGER...always ! But interestingly goebb diary shows that there were TWO YEARS of BAD harvest in germany and in ukraine. That is nature..and this happens today as well. The DIFFERENCE is that (1) DL had no big food diversity: if weather is bad for crops then and potatoes AND wheat AND carrots etc = wasted. No alternative foods. and more importantly (2) DL could NOT TRADE with the rest of the world to BUY foods from elsewhere on the planet to compensate. .. and that is why TRADE and PEACE are prerequisites for good food supply on a strategic scale. a war can last only as long as you cld muster stocks....in 1940s techniques and national scale ...only a year at max. if not attacking RU..DL cld still continue to BUY wheat from RU (with functioning farms)...and DL wld yield also more food (cows, pigs). Facing only UK and the sea route blockades...
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  128. eeeh...Wavel and ABDA , Malaya and Overal Asia campaign (= NOT AT ALL support for the DEI up to Darwin Australia!!).. total FAILURE...no GRASP of strategic situation...and NO smartnesses or COOPERATIONS !
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  129. 9:30 a US battalion is what ? 300 to 1000 men..average ? 500 ish...they meet a forward SS post plus the AA gun teams..19 ? 50 men ??? 500 versus 50 ???
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  130. sjeeshus..couldnt you pick a nicer topic...? "the feeling of getting consumed by the plague"..yuck. I do celebrate bringers of new content..but this...brrrr.
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  131. his dog was blondie, and so was Clint eastwood...so there is a quarter of truth...
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  132. I think to define "superior technology" is not to tick temporary better equipment that lasted a year or two..and count who has the most. Better it is to declare certain arms technologies in which a certain country was CONTUINUOUSLY better, as it CONTINUOUSLY developed better models IRRESPECTIVE of what is encountered at the battlefields from the enemies. Germany: ahead in SUBMARINES (there was no "need "for the XXI uboot , they simply DID)... ...ahead in jet fighters (again, no NEED for jetfighters in 1941..yet developed it hard). ..ahead in ballistic Rockets ..ahead in STG assault rifle ..tanks..mwah..Panther and Tigers came as a REACTION to the russian T34 and KV1..but from then on..massive focus on improving beyond the others. ..ahead in propeller fighters (the FW109 surprised the allies...). ..ahead in (vicious) infantry and tank mines Japan: ahead in SUBMARINES ..ahead in major Battleships (notwithstanding LOW production output vs the americans..but THAT is NOT the criteria). ..ahead in Naval flyboats ..ahead in torpedoes..(though not sure about later developments of their torpedos in 1944). Italy: ..ahead in manned mini submarines.(many other operational developments...) UK: ..ahead in radiology (radar, asdic , etc.) ..ahead in prop fighters (and its ENGINE). ..ahead in heavy areal ordnance ..ahead in decryption not sure who to give medical technology (USA or UK ?) and not sure to grant the UK the radio sets technology improvements..cause more than not their radio sets FAILED in the field (ärnhem"..ahum) ..it is too late for me now..USA and SU must come later..
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  133. Good job..very lengthy though..a bit too lengthy for my taste though. (eleven episodes of 45 mins...sjeesh). But noone can outtrump you now (all the commanders and data).
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  134. With all the mayhem of bad intelligence and miscommunications , I have a hard time to believe these guys (brits and germans) REALLY had no good use of AIRreconnaissance ? a bit of rainclouds ? desertdust ? ...perhaps as bad as 4 hours..but then there must be a window of 2 hrs of visibilty..you can send up a few brave pilots ?? and the area to cover in terms of airflight is ...45 minutes max ????? (tobruk to Sollum). What went wrong with these pilots ???
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  135. and then 11:10 ...this attack SOMEHOW GAINED..(!!!!) local successes...DUH ! somehow ?!? Against the ELITE 82nd??? Geesh, I wonder how this was possible ? With these collection of old men, cooks and trucks and guns pushing through the FORREST? Where the ELITE 82nd is in THEIR element ?!?!?! Oh my...maybe you suffer from ill bias too... Anything pushed to serve YOUR biased conclusion. Reality/truth isn't that. You claim yourself, keep the OPEN mind.
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  136. what I find peculiar of Rommel here is: HIS main interest was getting Tobruk thru a siege. he got his STRATEGIC sense correct in prioritizing Tobruk. Then he got wind of a major , but SLOW advance of the enemy. Thru luck (i am sure the DAK would NOT HAVE expected to kill so many brit tanks as they did...). it turns out that cruwel/dak NEUTRALISED the most IMMEDIATE threat to his siege. Now, the choice is between (1) CONTINUING the siege/speed up tobruk taking (his MAIN initial priority) with 60% of his troops and leave 40% to cruwell to mop up the defeated british units IMMEDIATELY NEAR his side and EXPECT that the remainder of british troops (more inf and FAR away) to call off the attacks, or advance cautiously and thus BUYING TIME...in line with his ASSESSMENT of cautious cunningham...or (2) based on a MERE frail hunch that cunningham MIGHT flee in panic, send ALL his depleted and weary DAK troops INSIDE a british Kessel to search for ..WHAT exactly?? with certainty that his vehicles will break down, spread out, without support, and NO reserves... This is totally imbecile...I cant believe noone at german HQ didnot get after action reports and DEMOTED Rommel and rather promoted cruewell instead...
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  137. so you felt what it was like in 1944 ?
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  138. Michael Stark experiences a premature eja..ejeeh..come on..you know it..
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  139. why couldnt Hitler invade soviet union over the North Pole, or Canada via the North Pole ? Or..why couldnt Hitler send german austronaut troops via V2 rockets in sub space to land via parachutes in Moskou ? Tell us TIK...tell us , tell us !!!
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  140. 297th Inf Div : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/297th_Infantry_Division_(Wehrmacht) also easy..just google it... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/71st_Infantry_Division_(Wehrmacht) 71st inf div..this symbol is rather pretty.
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  141. " What lessons can be learned from all of this?" learn not to stick your heads in various arses. (nb your = politicians, msm, EU "leaders", CEOs)
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  142.  @KenjaTimu  ..and that's why a "blitzkrieg" comes into play...attack with all might and concentration to OVERRUN the enemy and get to its capitol an political/military/production centers BEFORE they can out produce you... Germany started building military in 1935..USA didnt until 1941... Uk not until 1940. France stopped in 1939 and thought they had enough fortresses and tanks. Only Soviet Union kept on going producing and developing ... ah and Japan..
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  143. at 1:04:30 That 's funny..this reminds me of XXXcrps at Nijmegen bridge. A couple of tanks MADE it on the right flank AROUND the german Nijmegen defenses and made it to the other side of the Nijmegen bridge. succesfully. "then why not send THE REST of XXXcrps (or at least MORE tanks and some idle infantry brigades..)...along the SAME route?"...(so much so that between Nijmegen and Arnhem there is MORE tanks/troops to spare to keep the route open...). pah-tching... Okay..carrington did not "recall"them tanks...but carrington got the order to STAND and STAY.. "who gave him this order"???
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  144. 21:53 at stake ? or at steak ? at Braai ?
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  145. 21:17 ffs ..is that THE lindqvist of the 508th of the 82nd ..of the Nijmeghen bridge failure ?? he is STILL around ???
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  146. Malta had to be taken at once when Italy declared war on UK. Italians had airtransport, paratroopers and small attack boats..the brits on Malta had virtually nothing. Once Malta was out of the way, there would be no enemy submarine basis next door. Would have helped Rommel much more, and likely got him in Egypt faster.
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  147. nonsense...all the 10th and 9th SS inf kampfgruppen, then armoured cars, then stugs, pz4 and finally Tigers coming over via the pannerden ferry already on DAY ONE (17th sept) shows that the island between Nijmegen and Arnhem came more and more in strong german hands. Proof are the tough resistance of SS INSIDE Nijmegen between 17th-21 st (if they were kept in Lent; impassable defense for 82nd and XXX spearhead), the tough hold up in Elst 22nd - 26th (XXX crps tanks and guards could roam "freely"over the island yet could NOT pass onto Arnhem. Why? concentrated SS artillery Sperrfeuer. (Sonnenstuhl). So no, there would have been absolutely no easy walk over. Taking a bridge is not a game of "dibs, I got here first , now you are out, na na naa naaah". No, the opponent CAN and WILL come back and have another try with more REINFORCEMENTS. The question is who can throw in the most troops in to shift the balance in his favour; Horrocks or Bittrich ? In the end itwas the BRITISH who decided to BLOW up Arnhem bridge....despite "all the shermans and guards ???". That is telling enough!
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  148. Readthis,makes sense: http://arnhemjim.blogspot.nl/p/operation-market-garden.html What is absolutely amazing is the fact that when Field Marshal Montgomery reviewed his copy of 1st Airborne Corps operation order, even he objected! He immediately sent his Acting Chief of Staff, Brigadier David Belchem, to LtGen Brereton's headquarters in order to seek a modification of the lift plan allowing the 1st Airborne Division to be delivered in two lifts at most. In this case Brereton exceeded Montgomery in absolute recalcitrance, citing his own previous edict of no changes once decisions had been made...
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  149. panzers, armoured cars halftracks, pioneers and SS were already in place on "the island" on sept 18th via Pannerden and Arnhem bridge itself (Graebner went to NIjmegen!). IF a 82nd platoon had made it to the bridge on 17th..it would have been long displaced on the 18th.
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  150. *****  meaning "if Nimegen bridge was SECURELY taken AND HELD by paras AND XXXcrps tanks and vehicles on the 17th". If you have only 40 men with rifles on /around Nijmegen bridge then that is NO GOOD to stave off increasing SS men and armoured cars.
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  151. The question is how can hindsight foil you ? How is Gavin to KNOW that the german troops coming from the Reichswald (they were coming) were uncoordinated and poor quality ??? Can you answer this: why were the 82nd dropped on the EAST of Nijmegen ? Inbetween Nijmegen and germany's Fatherland Reichswald ? Ever though about that ? If the german soldiers in Holland were supposed to be old men and secondary sentry troops...why RISK your men and LZ in a much more dangerous position with threat coming from the east ?? It would be all the more easier landing in the west (southwest) ? There was even and old airstrip near Grave bridge ! Pretend you use your brains, you are paratrooper planner in the week ahead of MG and you choose EAST. WHY ??
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  152. Keent airfield...
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  153. I think it is because the 82nd should act as a shield against "anything" the germans could throw at the column from their nearest german access points; Kleve etc. The allied intelligence knew "sufficiently" what was in Holland (West) of the corridor, but was in the dark what cld be expected from the east. Hence Gavin had to expect the worst and prepare for the worst.
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  154. Or why not land 1st Airborne immediately at Deelen airfield ;). Somehow allied intelligence figured there would be sizeable german forces there... (I think they knew there were refitting SS troops there (hullo Enigma), but didnot want to scare the paras, scare the public that the policy makers should take responsibility, just play the fool). Since when was Enigma decoded ? 1941 ? If you know the SS is there (but unsure of their actual operational strength) then it figures to not drop ANY para closer to Arnhem bridge (on south side, or nearer to the railway bridge), but choose a "safe" distance near Renkum.
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  155. What is telling, or bothersome to me is that although Montgomery is all over responsible for the plan, and even though he is taking responsibility for the failure, excuse 90% success, I don't see or read that he is involved in the operation during the days that it took place. Where was he ? What was he doing between 17-22 sept ? HE could take drastic measures to fix things if there were cock ups (like pushing brereton for more flights even during darker hours, even during a slow dissipating fog in UK or in Holland...kick some ass). It seems because he anticipated the SS there , he'd pull away his involvement so that if a loss occurred he could blame his staff under him, but if it were a success, he would take all the credit and exploit the situation. ... If the MG project in potential creates a stunning strategic bridgehead for future operations in Germany, then at least you would see more attention from Monty in that crucial first week. But I read nothing of interest in his diary (published..so maybe pages are missing..)
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  156. Prague was a bit further away and thru mountains, than Berlin..when starting from Antwerp (port)...and Prague was taken by Patton s men.
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  157. reeeeaaallly ?you have a wild fantasy.... try a reference or quot e from REAL books ?
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  158. The case of the Gavin blunder is a mistake, but not one that made the market garden fail. His erratic decision simply doesn't matter: in fact Frost and the lack of support from the other british batallions prove that it isn't and wasn't a simple matter of "go to the bridge and hold it a couple of days. Around Arnhem there was enough german forces to kick the shit out of the british paras even if ALL the intended battalions had arrived in Arnhem center. So too were there enough german troops and called in reinforcements around Nijmegen center had Gavin sent all his (say half) first day troops into Nijmegen center. By the time XXX corps would have arrived as it did the germans STILL would have disrupted and harassed any combination of handful US paras with spearhead of XXX corps armour in the rubbled center of Nijmegen. The carnage that historically happened in Nijmegen WOULD JUST AS MUCH TAKE PLACE in Nijmegen had Gavin moved his paras immediately to the nijmegen center. And as XXX corps PROVED historically that it would NOT move armour and vehicles further over the bridge to reach Arnhem, so too would XXX corps not advance further if Nijmegen would not have been cleared for a radius of say 5 kms. You must realise that the use of paras to "take" a bridge is NOT to be able to "hold"the bridge against inf and tank attacks (they are incapable of), the ONLY tactical advantage of para s taking a bridge in surprise is to SAVE it from being BLOWN UP by enemy engineers. And in case of Nijmegen bridge luckily this happened, but not to the grace of the US rivercrossing feat, but through a heroic dutch resistance that cut the wires further inland away from the bridge. (Jan Jozef Lambert van Hoof)
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  159. well...then analyse the reality: You send 50 paras to the bridge..shoot some 20 germ guards away...you are left with 40 capable men. So, where on and around the Nijmegen bridge would you place them ? problem: 1) no near houses around the ramps (like in Arnhem). 2) If a german armoured column would move down from North over the bridge.(or east from Kleve or Emmerich).how would these 40 men stop them ? Do they carry a bazooka with 5 rounds each and every paratrooper ? Hmm ? Would the , say 4 paras with 4 bazookas not be noticed on the pavement around the ramps ?(and be bombarded with ample mortars and light artillery) In short: wouldn't the "defense" of the "entire" nijmegen bridge by a handfull of paras be "a joke" in military defense terms ? and cleared up in a matter of a few hours ? The key is which concentrated force of armoured vehicles arrives first :the germans or the XXX spearhead. The 82nd on the bridge on the days before is irrelevant. It is ONLY relevant to deny german engineers to place explosives. And yes, that is a risk Gavin and Browning seriously missed.
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  160. (1) such a 6 pdr gun is only as good as it gets the first shot(s) (with success) but after that is located and gets mortared...end of its use. (2) choosing between setting up the 6 pdr in ambush in wooded area against expected tanks around Groesbeek (landing zones), versus in a streetcorner in Nijmegen ...fully exposed when pulling it in the city by jeep..able to be sniped from all directions; the choice is obvious: leave it at Groesbeek and have only Piats or bazookas or mines in nijmegen.  
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  161. The panzerfausts find is luck. You (or Gavin) cannot plan on that. Btw having found a store full of panzerfausts is proof that it is reserved for ..? quite a substantial number of german garrison men. And where were these men ? Far far away, or rather (on patrol ? excercise?) nearby ? Nijmegen is a very important city in the eyes of the germans. It is unthinkable it would be void with troops (otherwise, the dutch resistance would have a ball there....).
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  162. Those are the facts..now use the brain to analyse: where would the 10th SS be on day 2 if some of Gavins men were scattered on,over, below , north and south of the bridge ? what would the 10th SS do ? And, If two Tiger tanks were ferried across on the island and given the situation :Handfull British paras contained on Arnhem bridge north ramp by ample german troops and stugs, and US paras untested on Nijmegen bridge and south ramp...a column of british tanks and vehicles moving closer to Nijmegen south.  Where would you (or german command) send the 2 tigers (and support) ? Again racing over Arnhem bridge, or rather down to squash resistance in Nijmegen ?
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  163. In logistics terms the paras have no effect or meaning for the end success of market Garden; what determines the new front/border/stalemate is where will the bulk of the military material and men of the XXXcorps meet the bulk of the military material and men of the Germans. Even IF  Gavin had the Nijmegen bridge on day 1, and even IF the XXXcorps would push on to Nijmegen on day 2 end, and even IF  XXXcrps would move vehicles OVER the Waal on day 3, by that time the germans had ENOUGH SS troops and material (tanks and artillery) in the area around Elst  and Arnhem to stop XXX crps in its tracks. Even IF XXXcrps would push on more and more material on the island and do successful manoeuvres (note: Oct-March the same british could NOT achieve easy breakthroughs in the swampy cold areas around the Waal and Rhine!) that would take AT LEAST 10 more days..then STILL no british tank would be able to cross the Arnhem bridge in September/October.. The frontline would have settled. Settled in practically the same frontline as it did historically. Period.
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  164. None other than MajGenJames M. Gavin, commanding the 82nd Airborne Division, during Operation Market-Garden, was extremely critical of Browning, writing in his diary on 6September 1944, (prior to the operation), that he "...unquestionably lacks the standing, influence and judgement that comes from a proper troop (readairborne combat) experience.... his staff was superficial...Why the British units fumble along... becomes more and more apparent. Their tops lack the know-how, never do they get down into the dirt and learn the hard way".
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  165. did so. But in terms of losing momentum by losing bridges immediately; you have bridge at Son, railway bridges at Arnhem and >Nijmegen..all blown up by detonation or 88guns. The son bridge actually stalled the XXX progress. THAT was vital. Was it the 101st to blame ? Horocks ? Or rather the naive optimistic planners ? Same goes for Nijmegen. There is enough (i add page numbers later) to show that north of Nijmegen was soon filling with sufficient german reinforcements that would nullify any 82nd battalion or platoon attempt on taking the bridge. Any clearing of these SS would HAVE to be done by XXXcrps. Either INSIDE nijmegen (as per history) or over the bridge in Lent, Elst, whole of Betuwe Island. The 82nd would be incapable of going out IN the island area. History has shown that XXXcrps  FAILED to do this job in full force "hell bound", and VITAL hours slipped away in which a more aggressive spearhead /commander would have sent his good troops forward PAST the SS that were shooting out of windows (what else can they do in Nijmegen??? the Nijmegen ramp is CLEAR for 100 mtrs) and go the SAME route as the 6 to 4 shermans that went before them. Follow up on them and go via side roads (not via Elst)  to Driel to Arnhem and fire some rounds into Arnhem (and that's it...). I never found arguments or reasons why the XXXcrps as a WHOLE halted in Nijmegen and wasted time in clearing up Nijmegen center for 18 hours ? I suspect it is simply a matter of wrong or incomplete orders and procedure: "do not advance until cleared". And while 1000 guards at the spearhead do the clearing, the rest BEHIND them...do ..NOTHING. And THAT was the last blow to the hope of Arnhem.
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  166. By luck I have the right Kershaw book; 1)page 100 1st patrol in nijmegen 18.30 17 sept. Frundsberg brigade afternoon 17th in nijmegen incl Reinhold, Euling..euling turned via Pannerden..graebner 19.00 Elst on to Nijmegen (20.00?) Henkewas there ALREADY. 2) Graebner turned BACK after reports of frost fights at arnhem (note had 508th attacked EARLY then they wld face graebner troops TOO..by arriving LATER they encountered LESS troops: only Henke ;) STILL 508th could NOT overcome garrison and Henke…stalemate until more elements of 10th SS arrived over the night: page 101. 3) HENCE 508th would only be perhaps capable of pushing bridge flaks away, but not be fit to hold against Henke (when did he arrive by the way ??) nor the later 10th SS coming in at night. 4) Note that the “very easy”bridges Grave and Heumen were secured in what ?30 minutes ?? No!! 3 hours and six hours (page 119) . And you think “a” huge bridge like nijmegen would be secured in 30 minutes?…muhahaha. 5) Page 119 Occupation of the 300 m hill SE of nijmegen . this “took precedence even over the capture of the main bridge over Nijmegen”. If you have been there you can confirm this to be true. 6) Page 123 The lost LZ had to be retaken (on 18th) planes had taken off at 10.00 and were expected to arrive at 13.00 hrs. Compn were extracted from reserves and further US soldiers detached FROM NIJMEGEN to overcome this CRISIS. orders were given to CLEAR the northern and southern LZs! Only the paradrop of 18th sept tipped the balance. also of note page 194 Zonnenstahl, on your website http://www.defendingarnhem.com/Sonnenstuhl.htm sonnenstuhl; Forward artill observ brought down fire to within 100 mtrs of our own positions (Nijmegen, Elst).Therby overcoming CRITICAL moments...this id MUCH to sustain confidence and morale.It may well have been a factor slowing the rate of allied advance towards Arnhem... (I remember there was sentence where it showed that when shermans started to move out for an attack (ELst or LEnt ?) the german arti barrage made them stop immediately...so effective was the sperrbarrage.).
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  167. on the british capabilities vs Tigers and in rubbled cities like Caen. Yes, but that took a LOOOONG time. And if so superiour; what took XXXcrps so long in Nijmegen then ? And what took XXXcrps so long in negotiating Elst ? And why cldnt XXXcrps go assault the Arnhem bridge AFTER frost had surrendered ? No, really.the germans , even weak , even untrained, even unorganised were no walkover. That is nothing to be ashamed about, it simply takes time to overcome enemy resistance...strong or weak. short or long time. It costs time, material, men....logistics.
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  168. hear hear akgeronimo
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  169. ha..I thought I was the only one dealing with TIK and some snob John Burns about this misplaced accusation of Gavin and the nijmegen bridge "failure". Turns out 4 mnths before a proper (modern) para was fighting the same battle..
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  170. By the way on 51:20 day three morning you SHOW that the germans move up TIGERS from the SOUTH side of the arnhem bridge. They were FERRIED over the pannerden river near Het Looveer. This means and PROVES that even if Gavin had his airborne troops at the Nijmegen bridge at day one, the german SS would still have control over AT LEAST the north ramp of the Nijmegen bridge. Say the SS inf troops were not capable of pushing the 82nd away from the south side of the Nijmegen ramp on day 2, then for sure the arrival of the XXX spearhead would NOT be able to cross the Nijmegen bridge ! Tigers and 88guns would blast all allied vehicles off the bridge and could do so from relatively far away hidden and protected (against jaBo attacks) positions along the river bank. The allied push would just as much be stalled on Nijmegen and further polish para drops on the island would not have mattered other than as it already did. For all the allied air superiority it is amazing they did not know (dutch resistance would be able to tell) and did not see, and did not REACT on the ferrying of heavy german reinforcements over there. PLug the holes of the enemy push, and put pressure on your own push...that is all there is to warfare logistics. So the failing of feeding your own push (the airlift; Brereton is to blame) and the too slow pushing up the XXX corps is the obvious scape goats. Its all logistics people...
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  171. I believe there was a 17 pdr antitank gun landed at Oosterbeek (by a Hamilcar)..but no such heavy AT at Groesbeek. The 6 pdr does nothing against a Tiger (or even a Stug) front. Only hope is perhaps a hidden ambush and aiming at the rear.
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  172. That is a nice website link. Thanks. Anyways, how I come to look upon this MG project in terms of achievable success is like you consider the bulk of the german army as a container of ketchup up in the woods NE of Arnhem and the bulk of the allied army (XXXcorps) as a container of mayonaise starting south of Valkenswaard. The roads going over the various bridges as conduits and the areas around towns as other containers, and towns as more difficult to fill containers. The bridges are chokepoints and one way valves controlled by this or that paratroop or garrison fraction. Those one way valves can get displaced or removed if enough fluid pressure acts on it , over "some" time. If a bridge is blown then the valve is broken. A ferry or moving by boats across is a trickling valve. At 17 september you start building the pressure of the two containers. In this view the mere fact that there was enough and more than enough german heavy and battle hardened troops at Arnhem and having access to the "island" south of Arnhem is clear evidence the MG project had to fail in Arnhem. The bridge was simply a bridge too far. Only if thru some miracle if Frost (+ backup) could hold on the original perimeter (of some 1 km across) north of Arnhem ramp and the XXXcrps would make it on time (4 days?) and deploy its tanks onto that bridgehead of 1 km (and support of artillery on the south end of the arnhem bridge) it would be viable. But any wargame with realistic troops depictions would tell that with the given battalion of Frost and the given SS troops in the area (and having access to the "island") etc.. it wouldn't work.
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  173. I haven't got the exact hours , but I find thison Frundsberg alone. : 18 September, 1944: Kampfgruppe "Frundsberg" is blocked from crossing the Arnhem Bridge and begins to ferry personnel and equipment across the Pannerdern Canal (fyi Pannerden is CLOSER to Nijmegen Waal river than Arnhem Rhine river!!). Components of Kampfrguppe "Frundsberg" include 4 Panzer Mk Ivs, Kampfrgruppe "Reinhold", Kampfgruppe "Euling", and Kampfgruppe "Henke". 19 September, 1944: British XXX Corps reaches Nijmegen. 20 September, 1944: Division defending positions along the Waal River, Nijmegen; Kampfrguppe "Hanke" captures Fort Hof Van Holland. At 1500, 2nd battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment (US 82nd Airborne Division) begins amphibious assault crossing of the Waal River, and their attack on Hunner Park is repulsed by Kampfgruppe "Euling". British Grenadier Guards clear Fort Valkhof of elements of Kampfgruppe "Euling" and cross the Waal River between 1800 and 1900 as elements of Kampfgruppe "Frundsberg" withdraw from Nijmegen and ready for the defense of Arnhem. As the nijmegen bridge was not assaulted or taken historically on 18 sept , there obviously was no need or order for any german (ragtag) reinforcement to be directed to Nijmegen. HAD the 82nd taken positions on the Nijmegen bridge on 17th then OBVIOUSLY the germans somewhere somehow would have sped things up in the direction of Nijmegen. Reserves from where I hear you ask?: well from the ferried over elements ON THE 18Th september. Or do you REALLY think those guys and 4 tanks (and later the 2 Tigers) just HANG around in Pannerden and wait 48 HOURS until ALL the men and ALL 4 tanks are ferried over IF THE SITUATION would be dire at Nijmegen bridge ? You guys make the mistake(that allied commanders did all the time) that once a situation is cast in stone and you change one vital element you expect the germans/oponents to NOT react or NOT change their decisions and orders ?
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  174. additionally : waffen-ss.no/SS-Panzer-Division-Frundsberg.htm The armoured reconnaissance battalion SS-Panzer Aufklarungs Abteilung 9, under SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Grabner, had already crossed the Arnhem Bridge southwards when news of the Allied attacks arrived, and raced to secure the road through Nijmegen. On finding the defense of the Nijmegen Bridge well organized, it had returned to Arnhem, (that was the 18th) (I cant vouch on the truth of all of it, but neither can you on your sources..) Note: WELL ORGANISED. I suppose a SS officer would know how to assess a bridge garisson of non SSunits against the risk of uncoming american paratroopers...
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  175. additionally: Frundsberg units then moved to their allotted task of supporting the German defenses at Nijmegen, and later slowing the advance of the British XXX Corps armor after it cross the Waal. Considerable casualties were inflicted on the British during the stubborn German defensive fighting. Frundsberg’s Kampfgruppe Knaust and SS-Pz AA 10 stubbornly defended the town of Elst, the capture of this town would be the only hope for the British of rescuing the beleaguered 1st Airborne Division. So all these SSmen were already in the "island"area on 18th and 19th. And they proved they CAN harass the XXX crps in /around Elst.
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  176. check also this on http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/CGSC/CARL/nafziger/944GIAD.pdf page 2 "Nijmegen defense force 17-20 sept" and add up the "already present" and "reinforcements of 10th SSand what day they were "there". Also further on page 4 "Build upof Kampfgruppe 10thSS 18-21 sept..crossed EARLY on 18 sept am in pannerden. I don'tknow how you understand this, but to me it shows that ALL the SS (and pioneer) troops that gave the allies a hard time in Nijmegen center would already be in place and prepared for any move OVER the Nijmegen bridge of XXXcrps at midday 19th if the 82nd paras would not already have been pushed away by Grabner on the 18th (when he "checked" nijmegen bridge..). And it is likely the 82nd could not make a carnage on the nijmegen ramp like Frost men did on the Arnhem ramp because there weren t enough housings nearby....
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  177. remember your own suggested (and not finished ) website ? http://www.defendingarnhem.com/Sonnenstuhl.htm Look at the above page (with all kinds of maps and info from KERSHAWs book) and see the Map of the Artillery Blocking Line created by Sonnestuhl in Sept. 1944. Readthe superlatives of his commanding officer: To achieve this, Sonnenstuhl created a Sperrfeurlinie (Artillery Blocking Line) which can be seen on the map below. It meant the forward observers only needed to provide a number and the whole Artillery Regiment would decend into that area in a short period. This of course halted any attack by the Allies and boosted the confidence of the defending Germans. Even the commander of Artillery OB West was impressed by this solution that he visited Sonnenstuhl's command post to see it in action for himself so he could pass this method onto other units. And all the artillery pieces were IN PLACE by 19th sept ... No 6 pdr crew would survive a well placed concentrated barrage....and Sonnenstul only has to go from one AT gun to another to wipe them all of. I am not boasting about german or british capabilities and who is better..the conclusion you DO can take is that for either side it was NOT going to be a walkover in the island region on 19th sept IF the Nijmegen bridge had been kept in hands of the 82nd. and the bloody HISTORY of Elst as is proves it
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  178. akgeronimo501 hastings who ? This hastings ? http://russia-insider.com/en/weasel-history-secret-intelligencce-wartime/ri12534
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  179. More than 2/3 ds of the britsih 1st para did NOT do their job: Reach arnhem bridge...neither of them captured the arnhem RAILWAY bridge: 100% failure. 101st airborne did not get Son bridge; and they held up XXXcrps 24 hrs..... Talking about failures. The Son canal is a mere 30 meters ...you can piss over it..yet engineers took 24 hrs..why ? Because british Horrocks did not have them AT THE FRONT of the column. That too is a GRAVE mistake that hurted the timetable. In my opinion more idiots and naive narcissistic optimists were involved in the planning and execution of this project Market Garden on the british side (Hullo Browning!) than on the American side (Hullo Brereton!).
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  180. ***** Nay, of course the trucks are not next to the fighting spearhead ...but as a leader of the XXXcrps column you MUST anticipate the likely possibility that a bridge would be blown and the paras were not successfull. What is your priority then ? HAve the bloody bailey or pontoonbridges near and ready! ...It strikes me as naive to have those engineers coming over from the rear of the column all te way from Belgium. 24 hrs - 12 hrs..yes, I did not have the exact hours at hand. But still...TWELVE HOURS ??! TWELVE HOURS ??? have you witnessed engineers builidng a small! bailey bridge (30 mtrs!)..in an environment where thy were not shot at (Son was cleared)...less than 2 hrs you have that bloody bridge... WHere were the other 10 hrs wasted on ? Indeed; getting the stuff from the rear. THAT is poor planning. British on Arnhem: British did not "have" Arnhem bridge. Tanks could run past it (Tigers on Arnhem, Shermans on Nijmegen) whilst para infantry covered "a" ramp. You "have" a bridge when you control the ramps on both(!) ends and have a secure cordon screen around it.
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  181. what is "Nijmegen: U. S. 82nd Airborne Division - 1944" other than a statement we already know ? A book ? a DVD documentary ? a board game ?
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  182. A very worthwhile website that discusses ALL Market Garden books from all perspectives, and mentions ALL their mistakes: http://www.kritischhistoricus.nl/414964211 You have to google translate it. And yes, even kershaw and Ryan books are having some serious mistakes...
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  183. what about the one(s) from Brian Urquhart ?
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  184. ***** What is the point ? Let's assume the photo of Brian (and listed in Bridge Too Far book (print of 1980ies) was a fake. 1) if coming "from Germany" is the statement, it is unimportant; German border is only few miles away...so near enough. 2) you claim liberally there is no proof, but you also present no proof of WHERE they were EXACTLY . 3) You canNOT disprove the obvious conclusion or assumption (if you like) that the SS troops more , or less ? had troops placed  and refitted in , near Deelen airfield. Now Deelen was seen as pretty important. By the german HQ, by the allies as well. The most logical location for at least quite a substantial concentration of troops would be Deelen. That is pretty immediate near Arnhem. As for the other assumption you make; brits paras did not meet tanks on day 1"therefore" there were no tanks in Arnhem..consider this: Day 1 was only half a day. The first info germans COULD have there were paras IN ARNHEM was....? after about 18:00 hrs. Dusktime. Up and until then it is thought that ordinary infantry is capable of pushing para infantry out of houses. Sending in "a tank" in streets, between houses, to clear infantry, at night time...is NOT a sound order. So OBVIOUSLY even if tanks/stugs were at the edge of Arnhem, they would not get the order to ENTER and approach the bridge ramp. The germans TOO had a code of "honour" not to destroy (occupied, "befriended") civilian property if it was NOT necessary! So you may state correct facts, but you make incorrect conclusions.
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  185. Just fantasising here, as you may do too; Enigma was broken in ..1941, 1942. So in all likelihood it MUST have been KNOWN to MI6 that "some" SS troops with cannibalized armour  are stationed in or near Arnhem. Now, imagine, you are MI6. You canNOT give clues to the Germans that you cracked enigma...but you kinda wanna warn Monty that there is a potential threat up there at Arnhem...what do you do ? 1) continue the drop..but put yourself as major commander in the background 2) supply yr british landing party with some more AT capability (17 pdrs in stead of 6 pdrs) and many Piats. 3) drop them at a far more safer distance; say 15 miles to the east away from the SS ? 4) destroy ANY reference to possible incriminations that you as commander may have known about the SS there. You DESTROY air recon photos that show tanks or even vehicles. You send Brian U. on sick leave, and you state then and after you "were absolutely surprised the germans were refitting there, we had absolutely no knowledge of them...and  'of course' the dutch resistance couldnt be trusted"..hear, hear. That may be a more reasonable explanation on the things at hand than yours. Enigma cracking... that is the key.
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  186. just spinning here; maybe, just maybe Carrington HAD to stop continuing with his few tanks at NIjmegen because HE was  instructed not to progress further otherwise the German may have guessed that Enigma was cracked.....Bilderberg conference and such....Prince Bernhard...Carrington invited...oompa loompa..
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  187. 12:33 because there were no reserves ready to make the whole deployment into the Ruhr. After a successful bridgehead between Arnhem and Zuiderzee, the British allies army had to be refitted, rearranged..there were anyway logistical problems with supplies from Cherbourg, more american allies in France needed also huge supplies...obviously you need the time to clear Antwerp approaches. If you reverse the order ; FIRST the Canadians would be attacking Walcheren, clearing the area (september ; better weather instead of the storms of Oktober)..then for the germans it is obvious where to solidify defenses against any future british thrusts into Germany... More certainly any and all the bridges over Rhine and Waal would be ready for detonation. Any attack in east direction after Walcheren in horrendous october and november autumn weather would seriously hamper Monty's progress...and he CERTAINLY would not get the benefit over Bradley and Patton in the fight for resources. Even when Antwerp is closer to his zone. Using paras behind enemy lines is a tactical surprise (instead of advancing on the frontline as such)...likewise the para project market garden was a strategic surprise: it was stepping over a logical step and catching the germans off guard.
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  188. in addition to the shortsighted hindsighting blame on Gavin, 82nd, 508th; Getting the Nijmegen main bridge LAST makes sense if you consider this; The planners expected NO germans at the betuwe Island. The planners DID learn that SS corps was at Arnhem but EXPECTED the SS to be HELD up IN Arnhem (by the 3 british columns arriving at the north ramp and thus TIGHTLY secure the ramp so that not even a tank or halftrack (as they would!) could pass). At Nijmegen, there was LITTLE defense expected, but the planners DID expect german reinforcements coming straight from GERMANY; Kleve..thus THROUGH the Reichswald, and THUS through Groesbeek. Thus Gavin HAD TO MAKE SECURE his LZ and defenses against strong enemy troops coming from the east. All the bridges on his west could be taken AT ANY STAGE as long as there weren't SS troops getting FROM Arnhem to Nijmegen. As the smaller bridges at Grave and Mook could be EASILY blown up, it was MORE IMPORTANT to get those IMMEDIATELY and the Nijmegen bridge last. Decisions to assembly, organise and march to hither or tither are done BEFORE the jump. So naturally the movements of the 508th are explained with the above assessment in mind. Unfortunately, it TURNS OUT, that the SS WERE able to move a stream of armoured vehicles PAST FROST to NIjmegen, and more importantly, more SS troops were able to get FERRIED over in a CONSTANT STREAM via the pannerden ferry. And THAT was the killer in the MarketGarden project; the planners simply did not think of possibilities for the germans to insert troops inbetween Arnhem and Nijmegen. HAd the planners dropped troops on the island (near Elst) on 17th sept than THAT would have been the key of success; the whole "island" would be a secure LZ fro the british and the 82nd if need be. If one is a simpleton (John Burns), you may even blame FROST for letting Graebner (and kampfgruppe Henk!) PASS his defense positions at the Arnhem north ramp to get to Nijmegen which eventually would prove to be too strong for the first men of 508th arriving at the Nijmegen ramp. But in reality it is the planners to blame...
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  189. Like I said; it was Frost who let Graebner including Henk pass by Arnhem north ramp to the south without a shot fired . Good riddance for Frost personally, but it meant extra SS forces on Nijmegen bridge before the 508th got there. I haven't found an exact time when Henk Kamfpruppe was there but in tracking the timing and movement of Graebner it must have been well before 18.00 hrs. The 508th battalion (400 men max in total ..but sent off party at best 100 men) could not do the task of setting blockades at Beek and reach Nijmegen before 18.00 hrs. Even if splitup, sending off 100 men straight to Nijmegen they MIGHT arrive earlier than Henke, but would not be able to set up solid defense positions against the arrival of Henke AND Graebner. Digging trenches for men and a possible 6pdr AT gun and filling up the sandbags TAKES TIME. Hence the signal "position secured" is HOURS away from "position arrived". In fact as frost let the SS pass under his noses, you might as well blame Frost for the failure. Instead what to think of the SIXTY (yes 60) sherman tanks that were in and around Nijmegen  as per Battle order on 19th and 20 th sept and DID NOT PUSH THROUGH over the Nijmegen bridge ?!? For 18 hours! If 6 tanks can make it over the Nijmegen bridge against the background of shooting SS and Guards infantry..then why not 16 ?? or 36 ?? or indeed 60 ?? YOu say they were held up in fights "all over the Groesbeek heights" fighting what ? Old men and children ? SO why were they WASTED there ? Never asked yourself this ? Where were the 54 shermans of Horrocks ?
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  190. drinking...TEA ?!?!
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  191. Maybe his cellphone didn't work ? Or the doves to deliver messages weren't dropped ? Or the chain on his bicycle was off, and he didn't feel like walking up and down 2x 15 miles ? maybe he was fully occupied with many other tasks and attention points ? hmm. you know, being a general and so on... (sarcasm)
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  192. John Cornell "why didnt gavin check.." Because it was 1944..decades before cellphones and internet. Telephones didnt work (cut lines) so they either had to be installed (ropes and ropes of lines) or the walkietalkies didnt work or its signals were obstructed (germans were no idiots in that field). And once you GIVE an order , you EXPECt it to be done. And given it to be hostile territory, you don't get alarmed if there  aint a messenger or wardove or indian smoke message coming from the extreme ends of your troops to say what has or hasn't been achieved...in the VERY FIRST hours of the day. cock-up ; yes..extraordinary cock ups ? No. That is warfare , and many more units involved in the MG project made them... Question is was it crucial to the entire success?; answer no. It didnot matter GIVEN all the surge of SS material and troops passing by Frosts battalion, and ultimately Pannerden canal (which is a low running stream !?..and the brits could NOT USE THE SAME CROSSING POINT towards germany a week later ?!??!).
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  193. John Cornell So the XXXcrps tanks split up all over the place (I guess attacking german TANKS??!??) is the fault of Gavin ? (twat)
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  194. John Cornell Compare the experiences the same paratroopers had on Dday: contact with units were lost; assumed DEAD or surrendered. What do you do as commander ?? If you have tons of men to spare; send other groups. If you DONt  (and something and you yourself tells us there wasn't enough men to do all the first moment chores) it depends on the time, priorities, spare men that report to be idle, etc. There is chaos . ALWAYS. Maybe less then the shit in normandy.. but make no mistake; the landing zones on DDAy were yes in the dark, but were in the hinterland where normally NO GERMAN soldiers were stationed..they TOO marched in to seek the paratroopers. In Groesbeek too, the germans were THINLY dispersed...BUT the daylight made IMMEDIATELY clear the US landed there and so german reinforcements are QUICKER to go in the right direction. At least gavin had to be prepared for that.And that TAKES TIME and ATTENTION. Compare it to the british airborne at Oosterbeek; only ONE battalion was lucky to reach the bridge ramp (and NOT CONTROL IT)..ALL the others FAILED. And also Frost could NOT GET IN TOUCH  with Hartenstein HQ. (Only a relay to the next closest team that evening, but when those were killed/routed..the next days communication was lost).
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  195. ***** 101st: lost Son bridge...101st did not repair the bridge.They can't.  result: FAIL. Only because there were some engineers in BELGIUM that had bailey (or pontoon) bridges  the XXX cld advance TWELVE HOURS ?!?! later. (12 hrs is very very very very looooooong time to build a stupid 30 mtrs bailey bridge...there you see a logistical fail of Horrocks..who was still in Belgium at that time ..). Had Nijmegen bridge been situated next to Eindhoven, then XXXcprs wld also take the bridge if 82nd had not yet taken it.. (WHY ? because the damn bridge is then CLOSER to XXXcrps starting point...simple logistics). Nimegen bridge blown up ?No, to the credit of 82nd 8and dutch resistance). Nijmegen rail bridge? Blown. Arnhem rail bridge ? BLOWN UP. Arnhem bridge blown up ? Not yet.  but blocked by wreckage. Ultimately BLOWN UP by british !
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  196. German fallschirmjäger success at Belgian fort(complex) Eben Emael...but Kurt Student's Fallschirmjägers LOST it at the operations around The Hague at three small airfields Ypenburg, Ockenburg and Valkenburg. All lost against growing resistance of dutch infantry, inexperienced and with obsolete rifles..yet they won. Because of TIME and because of ARTILLERY. That is the lesson Student learned (and at Crete again) Once the paras are localised and STATIC , then more and more numbers of even the poorest quality infantry will overrun your paras. The absolute killer is the artillery and mortars. (At Crete the brits didnot have the influx of more reserves and their artillery was detected by the Stukas (good coordination/communication paras and luftwaffe)..).
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  197. 5:39 escaton? where did I hear that before ? ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkn6rGh2S9s
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  198. THREE HOURS !!!
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  199.  @TheImperatorKnight  The battle was lost at the Looveer and Pannerden ferry points... :D (or rather..the battle was anyhow lost during planning and Brereton strangled it, but a surprising fetching against all odds victory from the claws of inevitability was strangled by ignoring the Looveer and Pannerden ferry points..). Gavin could not perform logistical miracles... (or..how to expect a bridge (and banks) control by the first wave of paratrooper men in hours and deal with a steady flow of germans, when the whole XXXcrps couldnt deal with the same steady flow of germans inside Nijmegen,on the bridge and after the bridge in 2 days..) It is plain and simple.
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  200. the list of sources...ufff.. but hey " Mosley, O. "Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered." Black House Publishing, Kindle 2019." O. Mosley ? in 2019 ? not 1938 ?
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  201. link on youtube ?
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  202. 1944 SS Harmel ? How much of them were children ? or teens; 16-19 year olds ?
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  203. of dutch people working voluntarily and getting paid.....well, I suppose...
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  204. 2:16 the map is in Vietnamese language...??????
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  205. >The same mistake bombardment happened to Den Helder after the surrender in 1940 , albeit with less bombers... The pervatin germans really enjoyed dropping bombs..
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  206. Wilhelm Hoffman..famous for the infamous Wilhelm scream
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  207. wrt adam/eve and apple: eating a chunk from the apple of knowledge (notice the Apple logo ? exactly the SAME apple) has led the people fast forward to the wars of extermination, atom bombs, politicians and lawyers and all "isms"...yeah...rather have stayed in the garden of eden..
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  208. 1:07:00 what is missing on this map are two pro and contra arguments; 1) contra; Rumenia offered peace (and reparations) and so the Soviets had to/and could move in QUICKLY to obtain this advantage. In Hungary, the same "peace" movement was rising, but there the nazis acted hard and swiftly.. ..so Rumenia was a ripe fruit that had to be taken, more than the "oil fields" (oil rigs constantly bombarded..and transport of oil per train to Germany was already impossible...so that is not a major argument). 2) pro. YOu are missing the MAIN railway lines. Warsaw is a HUB towards further moves into Germany. Exactly those railway lines make the germans push in reinforcements to the front so easily..and thus make it harder for the soviets to advance. Capturing Warsaw cuts off lines Warsaw to Krakow (south). Not sure about Warsaw to Prussia.
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  209. we have no clever image processor people here to give you tips how to faster produce film clips ? Walt Disney ? Aardvark studios ?
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  210. aint it funny to see the paint of the german tanks got 'chipped' more than british tanks. See 30:16 and 30:12. As if german paint was worse...or the sweat of their hands more corrosive.. (it always bothered me in modelmaking / painting how ridiculous much chipping the 'new'german tanks were and sold as "realistic"..).
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  211. What are redemption juice?? 3:50
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  212. If you look at google maps today and neglect the cultivated fields (must have been far less then) you see an ambush heaven: bushes, trees, uneven grassland, ditches...when full of troops AT and mines then there is no easy tactical movement possible...
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  213. 1:02:50 bad timing/planning of the polish govrnm in exile in Britain..yeah..but still, this is an HINDSIGHT opinion. End July 44 on BOTH fronts in France and in Ukraine it looked like the germans were in FAST retreat. Hence the adhoc marketgarden plan by normally careful Montgomery, and Hence the adhoc plan of a NOW OR NEVER uprising in Warsaw. Had the uprising been announced TOO LATE..then there would be NO (chance of a ) british/liberal Polish government in Poland !! If it were announced too early..then it would take ONLY another holding of a week or two more until the soviet military motor or that of Montgomery would move again INTO german Heimat lands.....Just look at the speed of allied advances !! Gung Ho ! Harrah!
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  214. ...tanks ????...where ?
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  215. no, top job ..kudo
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  216. "They were professionals, even in defeat. "..that is not the argument..you make the germans be like half-gods (Mansteinians!). The reason they STILL cld muster forces to penetrate/outflank...is..logistics: better infrastructure east-west in Germany to move troops fast (faster than Soviets or west allies)..and becoz there were TWENTY TIMES more german troops on the EAST front than on the west front in july 1944.... in order to MAKE a STRONG SPITZE force to attack a THINLY STRETCHED west allied front , the germans ONLY need to take away perhaps 5% from the east front to make a FIST of 30% on the west front !! (but only ONCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
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  217. 11:38 Ju88 is NOT the stuka...ju87... (and earlier attacking west is..east..)
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  218. Heia Safari ! 25:01 Them italians ;)
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  219. Stalin did not plan an attack in 1941...because, because... But in 1942 ? More build up, more trucks, more training, more heavy tanks....and germany more wasted against England (blockades Germans)...Less and less oil and material from Russia..Molotov was already demanding more and more (territory here and there) for its oil....politically it would crack up anyhow. When ? when Stalin would be CONFIDENT. Also, I learned (and neglected this data) the russians had INSANELY much amphibious tanks. AMPHIBIOUS ! WHY ?. To cross rivers in an AGRRESSIVE attack..amphibious tanks are rarely intended for DEFENSES behind rivers... And there were a lot of crossing rivers in poland and germany.....aaaaaand going further to Holland, Belgium and France !!!!! And what about ALL The PARATROOPERS that Stalin built up. PARATROOPERS !!!!! That is NOT DEFENSIVE!  Keitl agressive on France, Norway etc...yes. BUt hey, Stalin aggressive on Finland, baltics, Ukraine, Poland...........WOoooooooaaaah! If your opponent neighbour has guns and axes laying around, and is tinkering on a machinegun..(not at all "defensive weapons) and you had and used a pistol before....and you decided to strike first ..yes , judiciary you are the agressor...but factually, if then you discover in his house so much more weapons (mortars, grenades, kegs of powder, poison)..then yes you have PROOF he was up to something evil pretty soon. So that idea you have not taken away. You rely on published documents in commercial books. You REALLY think you find anything the COMMUNISTS would indict themselves is published or available now ?? (and really?"you don't have documents of Stalin's HC so therefore you have NO PROOF"...there are SPIES everywhere and all the time..and one can DEDUCT intentions from many other docuements and actions...). The hardware speaks for itself.And stalin had the (economic) trumps in his hands...also TIME was on his side. And he BELIEVED in his communism ideal, and KNEW there are many many idolate communist followers IN WEST EUROPE waiting for him to liberate them. Sometimes up to 50% (Greece, France) communists and socialists. Time would only enhance this. And the more nazi occupation, the more this would grow. Of course Keitl told anything to favour his case in the Nurenburg court.But THAT in itself also doesNOT take away the obvious notion that Stalin was building up to an invasion (or call it global revolution) at some point in the future.. How much does a bunker(system) cost..and how much do tanks and planes cost ? Stalin did not build bunkers...why ? it could have started way back in 1935 like the french..and it could have coverd much more and more consistent line of defense (and not having a "belgium gap"). The failure of the Maginot (incuding belgium gap) only showed in 1940.
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  220. 50:00 is this the sound of Hitler talking ?
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  221. pontoonbridges can technically cross any width of river. The maas at Arnhem is also not a fast flowing river (the Waal at nijmegen is...) and not very deep either.
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  222. hitler funded by wallstreet and backstabbing them at start of Ww2.. hmmmm Putin gas and oil bought at high levels by EU and germany...and then backstabbing the Eu/nato...hmmm China CCp hugely invested by western money AND technology..then 20 years later..china is the black sheep...and backstabs...the western world..hmmm really..we never learn ???
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  223. ..or was it masterminded by carbon copy of the 1930s by our beloved Klaus Schwab ?
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  224. that is oddball, no ?
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  225. 6:59 scary..at times of halloween eve.
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  226. 17:36 Adolf Hitler ..patreon ?
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  227. or the japanese in China...
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  228. they even honored him with a female action figure ; the Barbie !
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  229. I disagree. (is that okay to leave uncensored ?) skeeshuskrisst..not only hitler, not only stalin, not only Mao, not only Juncker, not only youtube, not only Zuckerberg, not only Twitter, now TIK is censoring too. Maybe Beevor should send a message to his publisher and order a censor on YOUR critique on HIS selling book?!?! "why you NEED to think critically", who advocated this again ?
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  230. more examples: Greeks versus Turk on anatolia, but also Cyprus.. Italians versus Slovenes and Croatians. recently Armenia /Nagorna Carabagh. India -Pakistan. China- Taiwan.
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  231. and what to think about the fanatical drive during the US civil war to KEEP the US WHOLE ? Why not let the poorer and backwards Southern states split off and go their own way ? MORE than the "liberating of slaves", the drive was to KEEP THE HOUSE UNITED. This is the same emotional-economic-identity drive of Lincoln, as did Hitler (and the majority of the Germans..Nazi or not..).
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  232. to get into the mood ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ0R4Qivy-g Though many other (later) desert war moments, but the music score is chilling/good.
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  233. sjeesh...are you 10 ?
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  234. stop it..
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  235. how far are you now ? Eins Zwei Polizei ? Drei Vier Pint of Beer ? @TheImperatorKnight 
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  236. Good show. I thought the term "fascists" as we are taught today in news items and in demonstrations had its origins during the Thatcher period; all the policemen and government were called "fascist pigs" and anything to do with authoritarianism and forces upon the masses to extort them social financial support, deprive them of work, social benefits, etc. came to be "fascist". Remember rick Mayal in the Young Ones..the Punk scene..
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  237. what ? a simple screw groove ? and this wasn't at the market ..in say--ww1--to put out fires ??
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  238. regarding turkey: 1st you say it is an impossible country to invade by either soviets(!) or nazis or brits... logistically in dire straits in 1941, but also the terrain. But then you claim that if turkey had joined the axis after a succesful fall blau/Baku oil fields...then they would be "slaughtered"by the soviets ...after Stalingrad..."or the british". Ehmm ...HOW ? the terrain is still the same. And logistically the british, certainly the US and also the soviets would NOT want to spend stuff in the deep south if their PRIMARY OBJECTIVE is the heart of nazi germany. The ONLY bad outcome for the turks in that scenario is that it would be CUT OFF from world trade by sea and by land. Technically SUFFOCATING the turkish population within a year. And that is I believe the ONLY TRUE reason why turkey did not join the fantasies of Hitler.
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  239. But there in Dubno they were paper tanks...uh tigers.. In any rate; in majority obsolete tankETTES. On German and russian side. Kursk was a tougher battle..from any perspective (lethality, politically, stage at global war) than this "incident" at Dubno..
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  240. 10:47 obviously you arent critical enough and still too biased towards Britishism: The 508th small battalion mistake under Gavin was but a SMALL error that got snowed under by MANY more and HEAVIER blunders by the likes of the planners , Brereton (HUGE choking off the project), the keeping OPEN the side thrust on "the island" via Pannerden and Looveer ferry (capable of ferrying tanks and halftracks), and many other cock-ups in the field (which is "part -and-parcel" of warfare). The Germans were simply quicker and SMARTER to respond. And last but not least the SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW advance of the 30Crps. Your british lads. .. And it was your personal hero FRost that LET PASS SS 9th recon over arnhem bridge towards Nijmegen thereby reinforcing the sentries on Nijmegen bridge...before the ss recon returned to Frost to attack his positions. Had frost blockaded the bridge then on 17th sept, the first instance, then yeah, even the later 508th advance to Nijmegen (evening 17th) would have SUCCEEDED..(but ultimately hours later on 18th OVERWHELMED by german SS influx over Pannerden...impossible to hold) ..
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  241. excellent docu !
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  242. negative.
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  243. you cant expect all first timer speckled teenager warhistory enthusiasts to see through ALL his episodes. It is a CRUCIAL bit of information that makes or breaks MYTHS. A correction "placate" days, weeks, months later at the corner in the "back" of his creation will NOT DO. A reEDIt of ONLY that bad part is not too much work. YOu ONLY need to fix the numbers. And put a text reference to THIS correction video. NO EXPLANATION in the main series re-edit.
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  244. no you re not..
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  245. Bush ordered us to invade Iraq. We british are innocent. And in Iraq we british soldiers really really treated ALL the muslim extremists humanely..because we were soldiers bound by treaties and humanitarian laws HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:
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  246. hypocrite to judge people of war, in war...in a different time and setting....
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  247.  @TheImperatorKnight  or make the unit rectangle "oblique scratched through alternating lines of opaque and clear lines"...
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  248. 1:07:59 and that is what "morale"is all about: the SPIRIT to put your life on the line for the GREATER good. Pienaar had learned that there was no functioning greater good. The "leading donkeys"....and yes that KILLs spirit. You can't , as an armchair general, look that AWAY and expect them to perform as PROFESSIONAL (S.A. brigade was NOT professional!) army of the english. If everybody around you and above you and BEFORE you have fucked up...WHY would you put the lives of YOUR countrymen on the line ? ESPECIALLY if it is NOT OBVIOUS that your advance WOULD make a DECISIVE difference. ! And BECOZ Pienaar was not aware of that and was not enlightened about it as we HINDSIGHTERS do now, he OF COURSE was and remained reluctant. Do not point of his DUTY to act as soldier, IRRESPECTIVE of all mayhem around him above and before , when all others have FAILED. In any case the british COMMAND ,SHOULD know about the morale of its brigades/leaders and use them ACCORDINGLY. Rommel did not use his italians as cannonfodder or as spearheads EXACTLY because he knew he could not rely on them to be like germans. But he DID use them and let them act as ITALIANS. There is your explanation.
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  249. Note that the situation of the NZ apparently was NOT HOPELESS at all..you showed it a day later: Freyburg gave the order to pull out..AND THEY PULLED OUT WITHOUT MUCH LOSSES ?!?! Maybe Pienaar KNEW this (from Freyburg?)..and Freyburg URGED pienaar to join the battle in order to catch a 30% chance of getting victorious with the knowledge both could still disengage at anytime..but pienaar assessed a 70% chance on destruction and certain HEAVY casualties as so much less favourable option, than to rather NOT engage AT ALL..to save both the SA aaaaaand the NZ. If he would not show up, he maybe assessed that Freyburg would be FORCED to pull out into safety...and leave the future battles to the english infantry...
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  250. Whoopie is a tart
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  251. TIKhistory is your baby.. love it and handle it as you please.. life and work should be fun..
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  252. If it had to be ONE vote, i voted Battlestorm. But thruth be told, in ALL subjects I have LEARNED new views that I have not experienced in any history books that I have on the subject matter (tactics and strategies). The philosophy disclosure on gnosticism is just WOW!. The economics things, I have to agree, bore me , but here TOO many many things and different view points than learned from the past..thus I do NOT miss them ever. The other military videos is "like a box of chocolates"... compare it to Marc Felton or The Front..it is a surprise what comes up each time...Like a magazine with an editor who chooses the subject....sometimes hit, sometimes miss (yes marc Felton blunders too, and The Front is brimming with mistakes and interpretation flaws..)... (strikes and gutters) ..you make them all right though..
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  253. that said..Stalingrad ..after a while also became an attention drag..but not because it is poorly presented , but simply because it is long... everybody rather reads a book of 200 pages than a chunk of 2500 pages.. Simply disperse it over time , what makes you feel better. We like you not for pumping out history stuff that we all can find ourselves (buy a book subscribers !!!) but for finding clues and detect odd things that almost ALL previous historians have missed...😉
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  254. You, strong adult, and young kid who is fast, find yourselves in a building on fire. You have the idea that within 5 minutes the house will be consumed in fire and you will die. You both head for an escape door. Behind which maybe are some criminal elements. YOU carry a heavy AXE, intended to SMASH through the door. Your kid is much faster and reaches the door in the first minute. The kid is expected/supposed to use the HANDLE and open the door, so that you both can escape at minute 3. But dear, oh dear. In the 2 more minutes it takes you heavy , old, strong adult to reach the door, you SEE that your kid is NOT touching the handle. He is afraid for the criminals on the other side. Then arrives minute 3 and BOTH of you stand at the closed door. Now the door has been LOCKED from the outside. What do you do ?`??? BICKERING at your kid for not opening the door in time ??? WASTING more minutes scratching your ARSES ??? Drinking TEA ??? NO! ANY SANE adult would USE his AXE which was the WHOLE PURPOSE of carrying the damn thing, and BREAK THROUGH THE GODDAMN DOOR ! Read; adult = XXXcrps. , kid = 82nd airborne, door = Nijmegen bridge, criminals = SS troops, Axe = TANKS and all artillery you can muster. Oh, and i forgot the analogy; you as an adult walk verrrryy slllooooooow. Absolute NO URGENCY given the burning building. and had the kid opened the door too soon, he would have been killed by the criminals. Is it more clear now ?
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  255. today is 40 years ago ? premiered in cinemas ?
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  256. churchill: I want you to attack NOW, Immediately!! What ? in July ? at 50 degrees C ????
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  257. Meme Hitler discovered that TIK won't manage to make Kurland episodes weekly.."Das war EIN BEFEHL!!"
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  258. Top!
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  259. Is this Nazi gnosticism (based in Mein Kampf scripting time 1925) merely a means to reach a goal (make germany great, defeat germany old foes (France, UK, SU..and thus this is a way to MOTIVATE an enslaved/beaten people) or really a belief in itself (which must lead to eradication of jews and jewry in first instance...and 'on the way' the old enemies of Germany France/UK/SU /usa will have to get overrun..) ?? If so (both ways)...you might argue that sislam was something similar..so much scripture was copied from Talmut and Bible..and the Kowraen , came NOT in one lightning bolt to the founder, but it took him WEEEEEEEEKS of getting in and out of his home office (secluded cave) to present 'the world' the publications...in bits and pieces...and what followed was nothing unlike a populist poor man's revolution..almost similar to that of 1917...
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  260. "inspiration" what is it anyways ?
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  261. 7:36 this is so gay...
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  262. I would not have believed Goebbels wrote a book with title " damned nazis"...impossible.. But jeehj, here it is > Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler (a pamphlet)
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  263. duh...20:48
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  264. However, in 1941 the russian squad had 11 men but with 4 rifles and one pistol for the commander. And no extra bonus equipment. The british squad had the same as in 1942 squad but with bonus tea and one vessel support , somewhere distant , to account for their RN..but of course that didnot help on the ground. The german squad had always the MG bonus..plus a stuka bomber in 40,41 and 42. The US squad in 43 is as said, plus Artillery bonus..but in early 42 that bonus is absent..the Thompsons were absent..and they had british style helmets and thus were plodding as well. So..with germans the extra fast MG and the stuka against the opponents..having...nothing....is it race and national character or equipment and planning ?
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  265. kudos TIK
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  266. 56:45 my advice; don´t...waste time.
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  267. 19:05 wow..sounds like Darwinism...the weaker ones die, because the stronger are fitter..hence, the weaker prove to have been weaker all the time.... but..just as a bullet can "kill the strongest and fittest human soldier, race has nothing to do with this" ..so too, the sharp teeth of the sabre tiger could kill the stronger gene pool of the this or that animal... Now I am confused...is n t the survival of the fittest "generic" ???
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  268. Himmler = racism... then Darwin is this ...too ?
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  269. on no, 1860 british imperialism..cant be racist..because..british..right ?
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  270. ..THE...END...:elbowcough:
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  271. ..(*shit)..NO ??
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  272. since you have the numbers; what was it again that the highest numbers of individual losses of men were always been "U-boat crews and bomber crews": 40% . Don't remember if it were kills, or kills and injured, or KIA + MIA + POW. But even still, 3% of "vessels" lost versus 40% of "operators" lost...how does that combine?
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  273. this is strange: most of the time the NZ are caughtand surrounded ..in dire straits...then suddenly Freyberg says..we gonna pull out...and whoooosh ALL OF THE NZ TROOPS are out in a day or two... Like flown away on a cloud. WTF ??? 15:00
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  274. nihilists... now understand the Big Lebowski nihilists.. 17:49
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  275. but in Asia..ABDA..he sucked....
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  276. "the dash was a good STRATEGY" (??) becoz it ALMOST worked (in surpise tone..). No..the occasion that cunningham was near a psychological collapse and therefore wld have helped a retreat is NOT a STRATEGIC plannable certainty. Therefore it has NOTHING to do with / in a STRATEGIC plan..or plan sec. Rommel MIGHT have been LUCKY if it had worked, but LUCK should never be part of a STRATEGIC PLAN !! Therefor the dash, on ITS OWN merites , i.e. based on GERMAN viewpoints of the moment , is STILL a POOR tactical move, and CERTAINLY a GRAVE mistake in strategical sense.
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  277. you know.. almost the same conclusion you like to attribute to the minor mistake Gavin made at Nijmegen 17 september. Gavin MIGHT have been LUCKY (for 6 hours tops!) if all troops would have moved up Nijmegen FIRST and NEGLECTED Groesbeek heights, Grave and ALL the other points...but beneficial LUCK is by definition DWARFED by STRATEGIC FLAWS of a whole operation (such as market garden was: THE PLAN WAS BAD overall...). Sound strategy TRUMPS (good or bad) luck...ALWAYS. and good luck NEVER trumps strategy, good or bad.
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  278. 38:16 LOOOOOOL hgahaha
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  279.  @TheImperatorKnight  but RL war isnt about "scoring game points/capture the flag"...the paras are supposed to take the bridge (both ends) and HOLD it. For..1, 2...3 days...and holding it 3 days ..with all the numbers of germans and material going in that direction as per hindsight would NOT have been possible. a) Nijmegen bridge is NOT flanked by nearby houses , ergo difficult to defend paras infantry against Nazi tanks...or artillery/mortars. b) even if each attack was repulsed..the "Island" between Nijmegen and Arnhem was a hell route as the german artillery was perfectly zeroed in. SO more time would have been wasted in battles in and around the "island" etc. c) When the 30thc DID manage to put their bulk of material (and british artillery ) in the "island" day 4?5?..they did NOT attack Arnhem...in fact they decided to BLOW up the ARnhem bridge. Proving that EVEN IF Frost had kept the few rubble houses at the north end (and by no means all of that area), the 30th crpswould NOT attack further northwards to the Ijsselmeer. Which was the ACTUAL objective. So conclusion: yes Gavin made errors...but no Gavin did not lose the Market Garden battle/project.
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  280. I find it sobering and amazing at the same time; when talking about tanks employment in these days...nothing near the hundreds and thousands that modern soviet forces would put to the field in cold war europe, or even to crush a simple uprising in prague or budapest.......No; numbers of "8" or "20", or "35" at this or that battlefield. tssk.
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  281. if words are blurry...have you considered it may be worsening eyesight ?
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  282. why isn't Saudi Arabia a super power ...after the war(s) ? (maybe they came to the same question, and invaded Yemen today...)
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  283. OMG..they took our PSU's!!!!
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  284. what is it about Stalingrad that you would like to make different ? or worthwhile reading/listening/viewing ? Focus on that, and much of the common knowledge diarea you can skip....
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  285. "I do something else !! " .. ANIME !!!!! Girls and Tanks !!
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  286. So what is the difference in video ?
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  287. 51:07...well, well, well..that is a rather unfounded positive statement on the Indians ?! I remember how you ransacked the south africans in a previous N African battle..which I in turn found unfair. And again..the Indians in Malaya facing the japs..were obviously also not EAGER to put a tough fight on their 'possible'liberators of the British Yoke...with obvious consequences. Why this biased feathering up the indians ? This got to do with YT 'promote minorities at all times to get extra advertisement revenues...'?? Let's face it Indians comparing to the Scots and Ghurkas ?
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  288. PS...so the scots AND the Ghurkas were ALSO using the SAME one exit italian bunkers ?!?! and DID put up a PROPER defense against the germans/italians ?!?! DUH !
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  289. 8:56 the revenge of the Blob
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  290. hmmm, a nice eastfront paperback to read at the hot summer beach. I can imagine all the young ladies glancing at me at the pool when they see the cover of this book...
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  291. These German Wehrmacht conspirators/coup people...you/the writers of the books (subconsciously) paint a picture that these men are morally "good" people trying to avoid "war". But that picture is not correct; they only tried to avoid war WITH BRITAIN and FRANCE...or alternatively a two front war between UK/FR and CCCP in the east. These men had absolutely NO PROBLEM with subjecting the Checzs (and slowaks), or the Poles..and let's face it; the Austrians. Either by military force (a small but sure war) or not (as it happened up to 1938, and Hitler was hoping Poland would be handed to him in 1939). In the same light, I am sure these "good" men, would have NO PROBLEM with invading Denmark, Norway, Benelux, Yugoslavia, etc...as long as it would NOT bring them into all out war with Britain and France.
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  292.  @jussim.konttinen4981  ? stick to the subject at hand..
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  293. at 9:51 and this shows your british bias TIK; the first SS to arrive at the Nijmegen bridge in their armoured vehicles (and which were observed by the 82nd paras in Nijmegen city -edge, and thus scared off the few (much less than 500 men!) lindqvuist paras) coming from the NORTH...passing THROUGH Arnhem bridge , were the SS that were observed by the first men of Frost and by Frost himself...but they WERE ALLOWED TO PASS ON (!!!). Of course Frost needed TIME to install and prepare his men at the North bridge end in Arnhem houses...but still it SHOWS that while it was beneficial for him to let go of this nuisance..he automatically put the nuisance to his colleagues in NIjmegen. Frost is a bit to blame as well...
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  294. 26:45 this still does not neuter the intention/capability of the soviet union under Stalin was set out and preparing to go on an invasion into the WHOLE of europe (after nazi germany..roll on into France (LOTS on communists) and Italy (also LOST of communists) as "saviours " for a new ideal society...) in 1942... Stalin, as indeed the whole world EXPECTED the nazi germans to slugg it out in France for another year or two...that is 1940-1941-1942....
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  295. The real question is this: is your last video about the fall Blau failures mostly based on this book, or did it come to you after the video ?
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  296. where is the, what is , why are my other messages removed ?
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  297. gelul. Ik had ook een paar ZONDER linkjes en die zijn ook verwijderd. Omdat het kritiek bevat op jou vooringenomenheid and zwakte standpunten. gvd...weer een sujet dat niet tegen (degelijke) kritiek kan, en zichzelf als dictator of god de kritikaster monddood maakt. We denken alleen maar aan namen als Hitler, Putin, en vooruit Juncker...maar elke pretentieuse kwal om de hoek heeft het ook in zich. Schaam je Tik.
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  298. Thanx
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  299. 22:19 Ridgeway, a.k.a STan Ridgeway..he scored a hit in 1986 with 'camouflage'
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  300. So....who do we pitchfork for ? Christine Lagarde ? "...a witch, she s a witch!!!" )Montypthn mode on)
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  301. 21:00 huh ? the indians had PREWAR training and SKILLS in NIGHT ATTACKS ?!??! And during the 1941-1942 MAlaya campaign..they got their arses kicked...because "the japanese were SKILLFULL in penetrating through jungles AT NIGHT..while the british(indians incl) LACKED this skill"......
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  302. shut up.
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  303. 8:56 which valentine version (look at the gun mount) is THIS ?
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  304. dude; A Valentine V (NZ13902) of 3rd Armoured Regiment at Balmoral Camp in the mid 1950s. The tank would be completed in overall bronze green and the unit serial 64 was in a horizontally divided red over yellow square. This particular tank is from the 2nd troop of B Squadron. ..1955 ??????????????????????
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  305. yuch..why ?
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  306. at 17:09 instead of emphasizing on tanks..perhaps it is better to emphasize on heavy artillery guns in a sector. It is tactical bombers (stukas, he111, ju88 etc) which is given good attention here, then artillery concentrations(fairly underwhelmed ) and ultimately tanks (lots of attention, even though the numbers are ridiculously low as to its effectiveness in the field at this point of time) that overrun..that causes hammering, pounding and breakthroughs in a sector. The soviets know this as they are building a HUGE amount of artillery and heavy mortars to be sent to the fronts from the years to come. My advice..when there is an important sector (attacks that are thwarted ..or attacks that are succesfull) what are the disposition of the artillery on both sides... Thanx.
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  307. the high water mark..episode 16/17 there is first moment of reaching it..then a moment of stability/stagnation (but the diminishing forces already act)..and finally a retreat.
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  308. A nice interview with an Italian who served at Bir El Gubi and repelled the english..tanks and infantry... https://youtu.be/k3GLlKJ2t7c?t=2m3s and they were just young fascists volunteers. And there you have it esprit de corps, fanatism, zeal, spirit, tenacity, morale...is often so much more important than having a big gun.
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  309. don't.
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  310. I cant sit 90 mins of talk out (i do this in bits and pieces over more days) ..I skip to here and there..but at 55:09 the map "proving" that there are no enemy at the Airfield in "the middle" because of "a map" is of course poor proof. a) (modern) maps have been assembled from many battle reports data..and mistakes happen, battle reports themselves (!!) can be erroneous. b) MOST importantly..enemy troops DO NOT CENTER at the TIP OF A MAP ARROW !! I see a Kg Mickl having a POINTER at the top of a local escarpment SUPPOSEDLY meant to contain the 25 NZ Bn along a long line. REALLY ? the germans being THAT stupid to NOT sent at LEAST a recon unit(s) FURTHER along the escarpment and INTO the airfield zone ?? Not even so to COVER this airfield in CASE any "funny stuff" would happen or appear in the airfield zone ??? Agreed that Pienar would at least had to advance more adamant..but this map (and all other "empty"middle maps in ENGLISH books is NO PROOF that there was in fact no enemy/hostilities in the middle.
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  311. oh dear...not again.
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  312. question: did Historiou edit YOUR FACE out of the videos ? ..are there live faces in the Armchair Historian as well ? Then it is obvious to the stupid brazil audience that Historiou is NOT the two caucasian faces.... That is one strike won.
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  313. at 19:00 yes please look into it. Because yes the USA does send tankers via convoys via iceland, british convoys , up to murmansk. And oil (but Persia fields did NOT yield (much) oil then!) came also via Persia up in russia, from Iraq fields (british controlled). But where the fall blau can only make a small dent in russian oil production (after attack and airbombardments, perhaps two months later, the damage is repaired), the german submarines DO take on mostly allied TANKERS on the convoys. Why ? because they are easy targets: SLOW moving...ONE hit = certain destruction...knowledge that oil is lifeblood of the enemy navy... And the German subs were LONGER successful than fall blau: up to mid 1943 ... So yeah, what 's up with the soviet ever increasing demand for oil/petrol and the obvious success in meeting this demand ??? Please do a study/topic !
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  314. 27:45 first you question Luftwaffe groundtroops to fight well (based on results in the past)..only to follow it up with INCREDIBLE COUNTERattack of the Latvian XX 19th div that actually MANAGE to push back RUSSIAN troops ??? Latvians ?? Since WHEN (based on results in the past !!) are THEY supposed to have been CRACK troops ? ergo...wonders hadnt left the world...
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  315. ps..I assume there is a difference if a luftwaffe ground unit is fighting american paratroopers in Normandy (becoming POW is ticket out of this stinking mess) or bloodthirsty soviets in Courland (becoming POW is ticket to hell...). Take an educated guess...
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  316. The end is NIGH !!!
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  317. 4:15 oooh I like this picture! Sharp too. I still have to get my hands on this model.
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  318. stand firm Chamberlain. Because a coup "surely" would follow. ..and there is your hindsight failing you. What GUARANTEE does Ch have that a coup WOULD follow ? The only CERTAINTY he has from his , british, perspective is that HE is signing a declaration of war at a certain date..and then the dice will roll by themselves. Coup or not...mobilizing faster or slower...having enough airplanes to do what ...sending ships to blockade german ports???? You (all of you armchair diplomats) should know by now that plotting governments ONLY get active AFTER a coup is started and has PROVEN to be sustainable. (turkish failed coup in 2016....venezualen failed coup 2019).
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  319. Chamberlain needs to care ONLY about the british public..NOT about the wellbeing of the rest of the world... and the british public have clearly indicated TIME AND TIME AGAIN that they do NOT want to be pulled in another continental/world war. Chamberlain is a POLITICIAN and cares for political support. Obviously he made the "right" choice given these conditions. I am certain that Boris Johnson, Maggie Thatcher and even Churchill IN 1938 (!!..with elections coming in 1940...less than 2 years later!!) would follow majority of public opinion (but perhaps invest MORE in Military...).The British military in 1938 was WEAK. You dont go into war, or threaten to make use of military when your military is weak..
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  320. ok explain this 1:13 dak pnz 3 tank...shot down a fighter (or ? attacked on the ground?)..and the coaxial machine gun ..has a cap on it ? against dust ? but even so..the muzzle is narrowed ???
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  321. RIP Mark Hollis of Talk Talk... :(
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  322. I really like numbers. But statistics can be deceiving. you are on the right track, thanks for putting so many data to the attention. But vis a vis tank strength you forgetting to involve antitank guns ...they often get better hit scores than a single tank crew.... And artillery (heavy mortars, stalinrockets) ? The soviet queen of the battle ? Surely THAT makes a difference in the statistics.... All left out in your schemes.... ah..we re forgetting airforce numbers....pfff... Above not a sign of criticism, but a signal that it is way a too difficult task to put all realism condensed into simple numbers...
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  323. 38:20 thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (damned wiki..)
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  324. 44:04 THIS applies to today also from Trudeau to Rutte to Merkel to Macron to Biden , and Klaus Schwab
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  325. 41:25 that response was not so much "the people", but more that of the local (city) and national (in exile) governments after the war. To hush hush, and sweep under the carpet. There was not to be ANY commemoration or statue to remember these casualties until some 20 years after the war.. Again, not by the "people" , but by the local Mayors...
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  326. regarding pilots parachutes: another explanation is; all the parachuted german pilots were killed by russian footsoldiers, and the reporting russian officer put in his report "jumped without parachute" to disguise the kill on the spot routine. Not much different from "shot in the back whilst escaping"...done in many many , also allied, armies...
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  327. 25:04 your reading this from his book...@but is this REALLY the case ? So far it is only a STATEMENT...25:21
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  328. @TIK yeah...but now serious on this man's statement.. He only states that the railway tracks and roads combined over the northern route is limiting the whole of the invasion forces and logistics if all the germans forces were assembled along this route. "but is this really the case ?" At least I 'd like him to tell us what is the max capacity of its railway tracks(and wagons)..at least some anecdotes of logistics officers of them running against their limits..etc. Now it is only a poor statement. I can imagine it is so, but I dont see proof of that it is so. So far I imagine that up till the "end" of the railtracks e.g. 1000 units can be deployed/supplied. From that point units up till 300 can get deployed on foot/horse/wheels up to 300 kms from that depot. There is no horse/wheel supply capacity for the other 700 units to venture out outside the railway depot. So ...why is there this statement that the 300 or 500 or all 1000 units are very well able to venture out 500 or 1000 km laterally to the depot and that the 300 units can't even push further forwards (only on basis of lack of supply train..not looking at the enemy opposition) ? How is this "logical" ? Maybe, you can argue that "laterally" there is no thick enemy defense than those deployed in line with the main thrust towards moscow. But that is no argument for the "logistic" statement (well, apart from "heavier fighting = larger logistic losses and strain"). Now, of course Moscow was an important hub and thus the soviets could (re-)supply their front better and quicker than the germans..and they got that opportunity with fresh reserves from siberia...but that is not part of the argument of this Crefeld man.
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  329. 25:10 The TV series HOLOCAUST was aired in...1978. Books were ALWAYS printed. But 1978 -1945 is ..a small 30 years, for the 'large naive'audience to get confronted with these horrors... so, TIK, you are telling a small Lie..(info from the same internet I suppose?).
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  330. ..also, and you know it, direct SURVIVORS (and perpetrators and their associates) did NOT WANT to discuss, or be remembered about the holocaust..the shaping of Israel was MORE PRESSING anyway. So, OF COURSE no interest in movies, series, or children books about WW2 atrocities for AT LEAST ONE generation (= 20 years). The 10 years more until the TVseries is tthus NOT AT ALL weird, or shameful or embarrassing...or to do with the Cold War.
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  331. 4:50 not only the commies vs the fascists...also the wokist BLM to deal with a black minority (ahum) opting for a commie-fascist society which is out to oppress black minorities normally..
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  332. ..as in, using boats to ship goods in bulk from Rumenia to the russian shores..? Same could be said for using Baltic sea to transport goods to the Leningrad front (instead of using trains)...
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  333. 29:12 MB3541 https://www.amazon.com/Master-Box-Infantry-Stalingrad-Evacuation/dp/B015TRAZOO
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  334. sjeesh....couldnt you simply answer with a yes or a no ? 38 minutes of yeah, but, however, and or...pffff. and that for 5 dollars..sigh.
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  335.  @Stefano-dd2sf  Stefano...you were not asked. Bugger off.
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  336. I dunno if the last part "the tactical mistake" of Paulus is really a mistake in the moment of the day. 1) ´Kotluban was failing "obviously" ´....how can Paulus be sure there wasnot a FOLLOW up in the sleeves of the soviets ? As a overall commander he is RESPONSIBLE to look FURTHER ahead than just the effects of a couple of days. If there WERE to be another massive assault from the north , he better be prepared...and shifting unist from south to north..would take half a week. 2) In contrast..reports of the status of the soviet defenders in the south by the germans would be MORE correct in that ; yes they were "stiff" , but also that there are FEW soviet men doing the stubborn defense. A good and STOUT german commander would have to be ABLE to prep up his men and overrun the few soviets there. 3) how are we to know or not to known if the germans in the Elevator area were NOT ALL involved in the stubborn fights so far ? Maybe Paulus realized that there was more fighting capability there of sofar INACTIVE units (the 267th ?)..all they needed was a kick in the butt !
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  337. also.. a lesser attack force around the Elevator would at worst mean a "delay of 1 or 2 days" of cleaning out the area. In contrast..lacking the essential defense power against another Kotluban MASSIVE attack, would at worst mean; TOTAL penetration and thus TOTAL loss of ARmy Stalingrad !!! and maybe..more probably..the germans did NOT "just" lose 100 men KIA over the ENTIRE Kotluban offensive combination. Despite defense benefits and well placed MG , and air superiority..a MOVING defense into attack MUST lead to more casualties!
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  338. yes..redo...it is only a small part to redo the voice over. The issue is very substantial..it is about "are russians so bad..and nazis so übermenschs ?!". Nazi fighting capability myths are formed on such false data.  .. a link to this correction is also essential , yes.
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  339. what is this "sause"you keep talking about ???
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  340. already done and branded: https://youtu.be/PVLoH8S4quo?t=13s
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  341. WHAT ABOUT THE MALAYA 1942 CAMPAIGN ????
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  342. ha ha , TIK sinking in his own quagmire ... The advice is never to discuss politics or religion with other thinkers. This subject is a sewage of politics, religion, race, justice and injustice, and the opposition is...all corners of the rest of the world. OF COURSE you never "get it" right. Even "the truth" is UNACCEPTABLE for large scores of peoples. There is no way of careful rephrasing to avoid "offending" these or those peoples. .. Just DROP the subject.
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  343. it 's a nest of cunnighams
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  344. ..in addition the economy of germany in 1939 is NOT the same as the economy (all things manufactured, goods and assets) of germany AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the occupied countries and peoples of 1944... e.g. german DM in 1999 were perhaps 100 billion on paper representing the economy of GERMANY in 1999. this converts into 50 billion euros on paper.. But in 2020 there are , all over (occupied ?) europe, 600 billion euros representing the economy of WHOLE europe. Does this mean the euro has DEVALUED by 85% ????
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  345. Have you seen/read this fairly modern thesis about the south africans in operation crusader ? http://docplayer.net/53465294-Sidi-rezegh-and-tobruk.html or in pdf full here :http://scholar.sun.ac.za/handle/10019.1/96040
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  346. The first time I see a swastika and workers hammer in the same emblem?! 1893 ?!!goes to show, that the right turning swastika was much longer a ‘thing’ in Europe…
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  347. and better than railways (of different width(gauge)) to Leningrad, you have the free unhindered acces of the Baltic Sea towards Leningrad. Didnt the Kriegsmarine (and you Logistics affectionados) realise this ?
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  348. in stead of biweekly 1 week on, 1 week off regime...turn it into a monthly 2 mondays on, and 2 mondays off plus the 5th monday off..when there is a 5th monday.. that happens about 4 months per year..
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  349. good job. In the series you made it clear that the germans were very exploited/exhausted already at this point...if we can see that now, from stats and data..for sure the german commanders knew taht very well long before.. No wonder they would THROW in ANY spare men/women with rifles they could at any point of the sector where they believe a slight numeral advantage would pay out. Of course they throw in expendable (!!) hiwis. Any ambitious (!) nazi commander would throw in the cooks and radiomen to get that important building here or there for "everlasting glory". Really, no different from our managers today...
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  350. green screen?//
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  351. Yes...with Vivaldi. Via google I learn with Chrome how to "fix"it in settings/adobe flash..but Vivaldi (and also Pale Moon which I use too) doesnot get me to this "settings"choice. Urrgh. anyway. tomorrow in office we use Firefox..then I get a chance to see it...in worktime...hehehe.
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  352. airplanes and airsuperiority ?
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  353. 21:55 "..it is our most modestly, priced receptacle..."
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  354. "Videla appears to me like an avid neo nazi.."..no shit sherlock..the swastika and official nazi eagle white on black on the book front gives it away.. 😆🤣🤣😂
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  355. 23:52 ..that's the air campaign...then there is the naval campaign as well: imagine germany had NOt have to build Uboots or battle cruisers...and all that A LOT ! steel went into artillery, tanks and AT guns....shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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  356. “Sexy girls of Gazala !” That will do..😅
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  357. No
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  358. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Coningham_(RAF_officer) happy with his death in 1948 ? or happy with his improvements ?
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  359. SEE ??? 100 million billion views within thehour ! ..you did it TIKKie !
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  360. vampire economy on kindl is 2.30 pounds
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  361. 17:19 woah..WHAT are those ugly retractable wheels under what type of stuka here ??
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  362. ju 187 ????
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  363. to quote Quintana "maaan, we are going to Fok him up !"
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  364. so..will Houston gets three answers for one question...3 for one buck. How much patreon is this guy ? überpatreon ?
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  365. 37:37 you deserve a statue for this discovery alone. My old stalingrad book(s) of 1980s also neglect this period. sjeeeshj.
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  366. 0:40 OMG my stomach hurts...at LEAST type the names in google translator and put the PHONETIC presentation on.. ...
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  367. ufff...politics. please don't waste your energy, efforts, time in explaining "politics". Stick to the mil history. If anything in a mil. (long term strategic?) history video requires a bit of political explanation, then save that for that moment.
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  368. dont BS. Your wife wouldnot tolerate mud into the house..
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  369. bah...i wrote shitload text...all gone. Please save it and re-insert in the next one...OR agrument the points I made. Cheers.
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  370. 14:47 LOL
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  371. 29:59 pff before your anus.. hihihi hahaha.
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  372. 9:55 dix.....yeah,...but Operation YourAnus is left untouched by YT..
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  373. Hatred of Maffia explained: "it may have SEEMED that the italian city block security organisation is rough on the non italian merchants , but they were doing a proper job of PROTECTING the merchants from all kinds of company mischiefs.." "amongst the merchants it was seen as SHAMEFUL to rely on Maffia protection, hence people started to talk EVIL about the Maffia"...."which led to a horrendous and UNFOUNDED state and police BRUTALITY on italian lower east side italian 'BUSINESSMEN'...". Pffffrttt.
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  374. 21:12 that is BS. Entirely different situations.....
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  375. 12:47 camels..aaand elephants; www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0djiisI9uU
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  376. yes planes. (meaning the operational side/strategic /logistical side....not the features of this or that plane specifically..there are other youtubers for that..)
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  377. do the error bit of 22:20 again next week, with the correct depiction. This way, after a year (?) when you combine the whole story in one fat video, you simply overlap this bit of video. (so no "explanation" next week, simply immediate right piece of story..).
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  378. I did not see it,but..if 40% of artillery is lacking, and 60% of artillery shells of that type..then what is this 60% figure relating to ?? 60% of 40% or 60% of 140% ? or..100/60 x (100+40) ??? confusingggggggg...statisticccssssssssss. (crush the numbers: e.g. normal 100 artill needs 10.000 shells. but you have only 40 artillery...each of those lacked 60% , so 40 shells per artill. So 1600 shells. SO, are we talking about 1600/10000 shells = 16% overall the ideal number or still 40% per ideal artillery piece...
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  379. 2:33..yeah right,,,
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  380. 29:48 here is a nice scene from Our Fathers Our mothers that perfectly depicts this "mix" effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGz-KLpGl4E (actually..the scene before: HJ kids firing on russians, and the veteran saying"you imbeciles!"..)
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  381. starschmucks...and "Enemies" :D
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  382. Nice thought. But too much of a theory , when in reality things are not so complicated. a) Much simpler is that none of the germans believed the trapped brits would be able to escape (in THOSE large numbers)..and thus let Goring have a go at it..and once it became clear that the brits could draw out a substantial number , then it was too late to act differently....such decisions take time. b) I dont think the germans cld comfortably sit on a stool and binoculars and COUNT one by one, the numbers of escaping soldiers...with all the dunes, smoke, movements...it is all done by ROUGH estimates....beaches full of patches of men..days later..a LOT LESS patches...wut? how much people are now gone ??...uuuuhh...I suppose between 20.000 and 50.000 ??? c) there is TOOOO MUCH time distance between "letting the british army off the hook in 1940" and the "oncoming invasion of the SU" in 1941...to make it a matter of strategical influence. d) and seriously, the RISK of a fall out with Stalin would NOT HAVE BEEN GREATER by pushing 50 divisions CLOSE (!!¨) to the soviet border ?? Really ???...The smartness of the plan to let the british army go in 1940, totally pummeled by the blatant and stupid move to openly march 80% of your standing army to the soviet border.......and thinking a "nice letter" would sush Stalin...
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  383. 1st of April ?
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  384. ..on their FIAT trucks ?!??!
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  385. excellent.
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  386. 16:23 The Jews ?!...oh, no...right.
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  387. axis powers is more than just the tripartite pact..it is but an agreement of cooperation in a shape or form. Any form of cooperation and aiding the mainly german war effort is being part of an axis "realm". Thus..not only germany, italy , japan...(how big is the cooperation between japan and germany anyway in 1941-1942????)..but also finland, vichy france (that is 40% of France!!!), Hungary, rumania, kroatia, bosnians...but also Thailand/Siam (on paper occupied..but effectively left the door wide open and cooperated with Japan from day one), Korea too...on paper occupied from 1920s, but Koreans ARE a different people , and boy did the koreans participate in the WORST atrocities against western POWs and indonesian locals,.. and what to think of Argentina and Chili...already during mid 1940s starting putting feelers out. and last but not least< the Vatican !
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  388. nazis ? where ? Kesselring ?!?!?
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  389. we are all behind you
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  390. a statue for TIK !
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  391. next..few..episodes ??? MORE episodes after number 7 ??? This obscure battle ???
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  392. OMG the questioner..REALLY never touched a book or did even the slightest google/wiki search. OMG.
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  393. but thanks for the nice and elaborate enough video.
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  394. I don’t mind ‘child’s sketches’ for battle field depictions 😂. Take care of yr health.
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  395. Hurrah! I have this boardgame Stalingrad https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/759/turning-point-stalingrad which is EXACTLY this city area map...but without much of the buildings, or not as detailed. If your Stalingrad map is available in pdf, in pieces..i could cut its pieces up and glue it to the board game...
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  396. counter arguments ? They d be censored...so what good is it...
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  397. NIIINE HOURS ???
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  398. haha ..true that !
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  399. 8:43 You are misguided here..with Napoleon and the inclusion of the Batavian dutch republic INTO the French Empire after 1810. The ww2 dutch nation was , like the belgians, or flemish , always a separate nation under occupation.
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  400. Poland (and britain/France committment) cannot be detached from Chzeckoslowakia (münchen 38)..britain and france WERE already committed. In TIK's fantasy it wld be better to have NOT attacked Poland 1939 but stage the invasion into russia from Prussia and slovakia, Romania and Hungary in 1940 (at a moment when hitler wld led the russian to believe they, the soviets, shld start invasion of poland..and thus have russian troops concentrated at the polish border...). 2 no 3, no 5 birds with 1 stone: 1) no war (and wasting) with britain and france = continued imports, 2) russia in war with poland, poland an uneasy axis ally... 3) russia still in purge reorganisation, troops at polish border stuck and easily surrounded by the germans.....4) better summer, autumn and winter in 1940-1941.... 5) UK and US wld NOT be committed to send convoys to soviets (becoz war agnt Finland and Baltics..and poland..)...."world"communism wld have ended in 1941 instead of in 1989/1991
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  401. lol 9:50
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  402. Especially the Shakespeare part of Hamlet Island.
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  403. SO the patreon subscribers bring money on the table....and the huge influx of viewers that came for the politics videos bring advertisement money on the table...a conundrum, but only if teh two groups bring the SAME money on the table. Is that really the case ?
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  404. ha !
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  405. Good performers ?; I remember an interesting note from Gavin the 82nd Airborne general where he interviewed a RUSSIAN paratrooper general/officer why the russians could not make more and better use of their paratroopers, as they had experimented and developed paratrooopers LONG before ww2. The answer is perhaps the russian patratroopers were bad performers? they sucked ? No , of course not; it was "we (the russians) never figured out how to manage and organise the whole airfleet business". There you are; logistics and the general concept of BACK UP and COHESION.
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  406. 32:00 cashless society...is NOT equal to NO MONEY !!!!!..cash PAPER money is removed..for DIGITAL money in its place..ALL THE INSTRUMENTS TO MAKE YOU A SLAVE TO GOVERNMENTS< INSTITUTIONS< BANKS <INTERNATIONAL AGENDAS rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeemain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sukkel. Hence the proverbial juice control (i.e. in practice bankers of all religions..also Arabs (2022 HIGH energy prices..REFUSAL to lower oil barrel pricies..for the GOOD of COMMON people?!?!) rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeemains!! and is even STRONGER !
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  407. 25:15 there are also jews in the free masons organisations...of then and of today... one does not exclude the other (e.g." the bankers started the wars "....that does not exclude...you know what..)
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  408. i dunno. explain. Ps I d say "wage war anyhow" is the biggest mistake..
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  409. I dont get it... What has this got to do with Stalingrad ?
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  410. Dönitz is fine...anyone commander who would want to save his head (Stauffenberg after effects...) would appease Hitler, the madman (as in totally drugged, high on speed). PS High on speed does make you sharp and brilliant in verrrry short moments of illumination..
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  411. "he had to stop trading and then go to war..." But ..what about the ribbentrop/molotov pact and its trade understanding ??? Stalin gives oil, coal and steel, and grain...and hitler gives manufactured products...for as long as ?? indefinite according to sources of the comm party. this defies this video s theory.... or is it "the exception confirms the rule"? yeeaaah right...
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  412. Hello Friend..I want your money = scam alert.
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  413. sure !
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  414. If you like to give an "idea" of the human potential of both sides that were and could be effectively used in human landwarfare against eachother, then the population numbers is only a ROUGH...VERY ROUGH means of statistics...for infantry AND means of war equipment potential. To prove the point that russia by 1942 could not assemble hordes of infantry to overflow the enemy. Okay. That is fair..but ADMIT that it is a rough estimate means of statistics. But you are doing silly by adding the "full" potential of Spain on the basis of a stupid little Blue division..(in your video text...not in the table). Equally so...by discarding the high tech efforts of Britain in naval and air facing the equally high tech german effort on water, air and in coastal defense. You MISS the point that in order to OPERATE a submarine with 50 ? heads you NEED a shore personnel support and civilian building workforce that runs in the HUNDREDS PER VESSEL...whereas to BUILD up a russian INFANTRY DIVISION and support you probably can do with LESS than 1 hundred in desk staff and civilians... Given this, you DO need to incorporate the CANADIANs (albeit with a reduction factor) and Italian reduction factor (for being mainly directed towards the british theatre). It makes it more complicated, but the ISSUE is probably to DISPROVE the mainly russian "we are all alone in this world"calimero thesis of being undermanned against the "might" (=not) of the axis combination in 1942. I dont buy THAT .
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  415.  @hermitoldguy6312  somewhere in the video he mentions (cant find the exact timestamp) that "probably Spain population shld also be included for sending the blue division as are rumania/hungary included here, DESPITE being not an EFFECTIVE force.." ' that is THEIR problem'. 8:08 here-ish. (not exactly the point..but if ineffective hungary and whofully ineffective rumania are 100% counted,..then Spain shld be technially counted too".....).
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  416. you can make the distinction by flying lower altitude. When you get fired upon, you know it is the enemy.
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  417. okay..this is a combination of many of the old videos..but FIVE HOURS of expose...FIVE ?? Who do you expect to get through all of this ?? what was the max attention span of students again ? 15 minutes ?
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  418. 19:23 you know this is EXACTLY the same case inSpain where the falangisti HAD to react to AWFUL BRUTAlity of communists thugs that MURDERED catholic priests (for owning a LOT OF LAND , the church that is )… many Spanish colleagues , even today, DO reminisce this !
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  419. that is exactly how many soviet POWs died in german camps. It wasnt becoz the Nazis HATED the soviet soldiers...nooooooooo...it was simply an issue of "logistics"..primary need to send food were the OWN soldiers on the front, then the german workers at home..and only if there was something left, it went to the POWs...really, no ill intentions "at all". idiot.
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  420. the PC game Return to Castle Wolfenstein !!!
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  421. not much..
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  422. If small states are a good way to undermine a large enemy entity...then why dont/didnt the powers of the time....strive for bavarian independence...scottish independence (ahum) ...catalonia in spain ? ... ukraine when within the CCCp ?... and invest in such upheavals instead of gambling on a full out war ?
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  423. why is at a certain point in time a unified state a "given" factor ? I d think history shows that any rebellious or different culture province/land with the proper "investments" can always get loosened from the unified entity..
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  424. 4:37 THE 13 TANKS WERE ORDered from tzechoslovakia (grrr Czechoslovakia): t38 s..but germany invaded and got the tanks and production in 1938. BUT ..Sweden insisted and pleaded with Hitler..and somewhere later during the war, the swedes DID get their t38 s ! (source> youtube, swedish tank museum...).
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  425. https://youtu.be/OGreSw-Hdgs?t=35 19 tanks
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  426. martin van crefeld...sounds dutch, but he is israeli...and though I find all things about logistics in war interesting..i believe (i glanced in his book in a bookshop while ago) there are some tunnelvision issues with his viewpoint. But what I want to disclose is that I remember his interview during the invasion in Iraq and Afhanistan in the 2000-ies with CNN in which he was adamant that the "only way to deal with the Taliban radicals was to "kill them all" ..all , men and women...(silence),,as the russians could not finish them either...."the CNN interviewer ended the interview promptly. He is a typical product of Israeli world view doctrine... very cold..very narrow minded.. Probably you recognize that in his books too..
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  427.  walt7500  hmmm... on paper if you study,as a historian, the Romans how they dealt with strong resisting tribes, the soviets how they dealts with opposition during the red-white years , americans with the indians, the spanish with the indians, etc...you can imagine that if you were asked your advice how to "pacify" a stubborn region you would come up only with the answer "total annihilation". And with the israelis dealing with the "palestine question", you would not be surprised to see the israeli professor suggesting and thinking exactly along those lines. But that still (i like to add *obviously*!) does not make it the right way/method.
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  428. simplyfied: the cunningham plan was fine...to wait for Rommel reaction. Rommel did react eventually..... SO the only flaw is for cunningham to NOT to wait it out.. he had to send out small tentacles of precious tanks in diverse directions.. I am sure cunnigham did not decide to send these tentacles out all by himself...there was pressure and support for it..gung ho ! ;)
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  429. On a side note regarding Leningrad" Given that the germans suffered logistics problems, and that their quartermasters had foreseen this wrt different guage railtracks and poor roads...WHY didn=t that influenced their decision to TAKE Leningrad as a PORT and transport all the heavy material, troops, equipment, etc CHEAPLY and economically via ships over the Baltic sea ???? Once the baltic coast is taken by germans..and their Kriegsmarine swept the baltic sea clean of soviet subs/vessels..and they would obtain the leningrad port....there is no limits on transferring goods as fast as possible to Leningrad and have that army push down towards Moscow......(compared to railing it from the Ruhr to Smolensk...). Of course , if even Eisenhower/Montgommery , four years later misses the importance of Antwerp port , how can we expect the german , land warfare based military , to understand this logistics entry point in 1941...
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  430. also the geographical map shows that the soviets armies were CONVERGING , while the germans going to Leningrad, Moscow, Kiev, caucasus were DIVERGING. obviously..
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  431. so the reason the germans and italians did not stage a para assault on Malta (akin to Krete but lot smaller scale) when they could end 1940/ early 1941 when things were optimal for succes...was simply: they didnot think of it.They probably thought Malta is no threat. We can bypass Malta. Spies probably reported there were no planes and no navy (subs were not visible in the harbour: they harboured in caves inside the citadelle...), so no need to worry or waste resources for it.... Note: i know of the rocky grounds and rock fences between farmlands on Malta , and that those were sofar (ab)used to explain that a para landing (of course not the paragliders..but also the parachutes) would be "impossible"for the italian and german paras. But that is BS...once you KNOW Malta has no planes, and only a handful of light AA guns and no navy defenses...then a small force of say 3000 parachuted paras (and support bombers, strafing fighters and a follow up navy invasion of only 2 transport ships) would be able to take the harbours of the island, and thus take the island. No... the italians and germans (including rommel) simply thought nothing of Malta at the time. Not the 1st time the "supah"generals missed reading logistics in their strategic plans...
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  432. opened the commander hatch..as it was already open for free view..throw in not one, but 2 grenades ..deep into the turret/hull..explode ordnance... HAs been done before...
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  433. jesus..how much money did this patron put in to allow himself the audacity to make SUCH A BLOODY LONG LETTER/QUESTION ??
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  434. Italians: Semovente da 75/18, is their assault gun with the 75 mm gun.So they did work. Further, besides tanks:Look at the exchange of airplane technology (ENGINES!) ; german engines in italian fighterplanes. (dunno if these were licensed engines built in italy,or produced and shipped off from Germany to Italy).
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  435. I see a Vagina.
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  436. becoz the germans came after japanese women ?
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  437. here is an interesting insight on a Market Garden boardgame..it is surprisingly accurate: a "what if" situation, your what if situation, ..still goes wrong... https://youtu.be/wStJ3QpvjV4?t=38m47s
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  438. dinner time..
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  439. Call it a Wiedergutmachung..
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  440. 3:02 Ha...Artillery (proper or from Air) is THE determining factor...
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  441. in the same light question: Since Barbarossa is/was rife with logistical mayhem and dividing the huge german army in tHREE groups.....why couldnt mr H and OKH focus more than 60% of forces on TAKINg leningrad first (forget moscow hub, forget Kiev wheat fields, forget even further Baku oil fiellds) ..then HAVE a port and FULL control over the baltic sea and have a hassle free input of resources to Leningrad......then from there mount the second thrust (up to60% ?) towards the moscow hub....probably stuck in winter 41 as welll...BUT NOT to be pushed back because of LACK of sufficient supplies ! Then in 42 full thrust/envelop on Moscow and shwoop down into the Ukraine wheat fields...and perhaps trodding in direction of Stalingrad...in 43 follows Baku..all the while halting soviet piss poor advances from the urals towards Moscow over the ONE and ONLY mainroad and railway lines....from the east..
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  442. ps Kurland 20:30..do you intend to visit the area and look at the (small) Kurland battle musea there ? Flight tickets are cheap now...(and it s cold..).
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  443. I had a look on google map on what this Alban hills look like, and more importantly how "easy" it could be reached and held by a group "of twenty good men". I suggest all you guys to do the same. I have the impression : 1) It is NOT simple and NOT fastly reached...even under peace time it would take a full day to get AT THE BEST positions (you'll only know when you are there if something is good or not). Steep slope, fully grown wild forrest. only a few (in those days) paths. 2) What good is a handfull of infantry and or spotters on that ridge ?..to have it being an EFFECTIVE occupation of the hilltop and an EFFECTIVE artillery post set up..you 'll need 500 men up that hill AAAAAND at lower parts of the slope to defend any enemy advancement. That means some artillery pieces up the hill and wired communications placements...yes ? how many miles ? through what terrain ? = DIFFICULT. 3)By pinpointing a few spots on google maps i find there is no SUPREME location that overlooks "it all"..Rome, main road between Rome and Monte Cassino, the beachhead, etc. Let alone things are NOT CLEAR all the time; there is fogg, mist, etc. Again this means a SUBSTANTIAL presence is needed ALL ALONG the intended defense perimeter. That means substantial IN NUMBERS and equipment (there wasn't) and substantial in allotted TIME (the germans and fascist italians made sure that was also not possible). 4) Hence ..acting like "a wildcat" was simply a too difficult task. Might I remember you all on how Montgommery at Normandy and Caen also did not act like " a wildcat"..... despite NO luftwaffe, NO (concentrated heavy) German Panzers, No crack german troops at the beaches ..but tons and men on ratio 10 to 1 for the allied side.......
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  444. another thing to make clear: The beached americans had (too) few artillery units, and somehow (?) the navy vessels were not able to bombard further or heavier than the first few miles off the beach. Hence an american spotter on a distant hill would NOT MATTER MUCH to harrass the germans. In contrast: The german spotters that reached the hills (Alban ?) had at THEIR disposal tons and tons and tons of Artillery (inlcuding a railroad gun ..later) and OF COURSE their view (views..many points to spot) meant that the FULL WEIGHT of their artillery could land smack hard on the beach head perimiter. Hence the SIGNIFICANCE of the Alban hill is DIFFERENt between the antagonists. Not the hill is important..the ARTILLERY AT HAND is important. ..note I hear nothing about the US Airforce dominance and why THAT didnot give the advantage locally ???? I suppose those too were whisked off to UK and Normandy ??
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  445. 79th div schwerin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/79th_Infantry_Division_(Wehrmacht) easy
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  446. Is the top of the grain elevator higher than the mamayev Kurgan top ?
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  447. 5:30..so that statistics...that is ALL of Germany effort put against ALL of Russia..and nothing ...reserved for the campaigns against...England ? at sea, in the air, in afrika ? in yugoslavia partisans ? sjeesj..statistics proves again to be a fancy presentation of lies.
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  448. that is a flawed statistic.... Just think of the condition and timing the croc wld (be allowed to) appear on the scene in front of the (already spent) german bunker or house ruin position.... It came as a "coup de grace" tank... ..
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  449. my question is this: with the canadians struggling with the schelde..and Patratrooper EAGER for action (there were MORE paratrooper regiments than the 3 at market garden?) why didnt Ike devise a hasty plan to para drop paratroopers on walcheren ? (no need for bombing the dykes...etc..). (at 22:40 ..10th september ?)
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  450. yes, yes..hasty plans= bad..always need for thorough planning....but a GOOD paratrooper staff would ALWAYS look at the frontlines and THINK of possible near-future attack opportunities...and NOT wait for general HQ to throw down a cooked up plan..and be 'surprised'.
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  451. If socialism is murder, and jews got killed by a form of socialism, then jeremy Corbyn and the labour members are anti-semites... wait..
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  452. Rommel vs Guderian? Wasnt it German tank commanders inc Rommel (and Guderian) vs Hitler and german intelligence (expectancy of a 2nd attack) ?
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  453. 7:55 airsupport = vital...duh..
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  454. in the last video I made many more comments..and all except one was taken away by the youtube nazi.
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