Comments by "ODDBALL SOK" (@oddballsok) on ""Arnhem" by Antony Beevor Book Review" video.

  1. 10:19 btw...having 3000 men, halftracks with 20 mm (TWENTY MM!!!) fastfiring antiaircraft guns , Armoured cars !!; and RUSSIAN antitank-guns ..my bet is that collection is a SERIOUS DEADLY threat to perhaps "elite" UNPROTECTED paratroopers that have NO TANKS, NO ARMOURED CARS (but jeeps) , NO ARTILLERY (but small mortars) ... Djeeesh..talking about being biased... I bet the "luftwaffe" personal KNOWS how to use the damn flak guns on their trucks ?!?!? Or were they Luftwaffe cooks and luftwaffe stenographers ??? three thousand cooks and stenographers ????
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  2. Another clarifying thought about opportunities and dropped opportunities: Once the british were present on "the island" in full force, feeling secure enough to consider it "under control". (say, 22nd sept). WHY didn't they set up actions to CROSS the maas left and right of Arnhem ? After all, the river is quite SMALL there (so much smaller and slow streaming than the Waal at nijmegen) , and easily passable by any mediocre swimmer. Once the military is present IN FULL FORCE with tons of artillery. It should be a textbook excercise to cross a damned little river ?!?! Right ? The germans were able to ferry over quite a few tiger tanks over the Pannerden ferry. Let alone the many halftracks , trucks and SS men. Certainly the germans on the north bank would NOT be able to defend ALL along the maas against crossing brits all over the place ? With also full command of the skies ?!?!? Nope, they DECIDED to BLOW UP the Arnhem bridge . !!!!! The british command conceded that they do NOT wish for further advancement, and made sure the germans would not try anything bold (raiding?) going south either. This shows the british were NOT INTENDING to land in Arnhem with Frost hanging to his fingers and FIGHT INSIDE ARNHEM CITY like they just experienced in NIJMEGEN. Their idea was to enter Arnhem and SPEED THROUGH to the Ijsselmeer. UNRESISTED and UNCHALLENGED. In other words, ONCE it became clear that there was german RESISTANCE in Arnhem (17th and 18th sept), there was NO POINT in reaching Arnhem fighting. Frost or not. The british command had ALREADY given up on Frost !!!
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  3. Exactly, Brereton is the big man to blame in its conception. Funny thing is, I never get to see any proof or example WHY Brereton needed his planes URGENTLY for other important bombing operations in that week. I am sure that the ONLY thing his pilots were doing were more of the regular bomber runs that could have waited the 5 days more.
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  4. check this critique on Poulussen book: http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel/2411/Lost-at-Nijmegen.htm quote translated: With "Lost at Nijmegen" author R.G. Poulussen especially revived the discussion about the developments in Nijmegen and he closely monitors the first 24 hours of the fighting in and around Nijmegen. The conclusions go far for the sources and the burden of proof. With the same simplicity, a completely different conclusion can be drawn from the text of the booklet. The 508th PIR had all the freedom and possibility to undertake an attack on the Waal Bridge. This also happened in the first 24 hours and twice. Both attacks were rejected by the Germans. Could they have done more? Possibly, but the source information in the book is not convincing enough. That the late taking of the Waal Bridge had an effect on the development of Market Garden is actually an open door. But that precisely this delay was crucial for Market Garden is also not convincingly demonstrated in the book. With equal ease, other delays in *Market Garden can be identified as just as crucial*. (!!!!!!!) It is praising the author that he is trying to revive the debate around Market Garden 'new' life with this work. His work can contribute to the overall picture of Market Garden. His conclusions go too far, however, to be able to determine on the basis of the contents of the book. The book lacks a good source account for this (an indication of the source is not given, it is only from the notes that some sources have been used) and it is mainly limited in its sources. By quoting other primary sources, a *completely different picture can be outlined*. It is precisely these other sources that have not or hardly been used. This involves sources of non-American origin that can explain the German and British positions in their entirety. The book does not reveal the positions and numbers of British troops that entered Nijmegen. Nor is it supported with sources which German troops were present in the Betuwe, in Nijmegen and the Reichswald or could be transported there quickly. This does not mean that the author would be wrong in his conclusions, but that the book gives me insufficient sources, say proof, to support the conclusions.
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  5. Now that 's food for thought ;)
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  6. and then 11:10 ...this attack SOMEHOW GAINED..(!!!!) local successes...DUH ! somehow ?!? Against the ELITE 82nd??? Geesh, I wonder how this was possible ? With these collection of old men, cooks and trucks and guns pushing through the FORREST? Where the ELITE 82nd is in THEIR element ?!?!?! Oh my...maybe you suffer from ill bias too... Anything pushed to serve YOUR biased conclusion. Reality/truth isn't that. You claim yourself, keep the OPEN mind.
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  7. pontoonbridges can technically cross any width of river. The maas at Arnhem is also not a fast flowing river (the Waal at nijmegen is...) and not very deep either.
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  8. I disagree. (is that okay to leave uncensored ?) skeeshuskrisst..not only hitler, not only stalin, not only Mao, not only Juncker, not only youtube, not only Zuckerberg, not only Twitter, now TIK is censoring too. Maybe Beevor should send a message to his publisher and order a censor on YOUR critique on HIS selling book?!?! "why you NEED to think critically", who advocated this again ?
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  9. You, strong adult, and young kid who is fast, find yourselves in a building on fire. You have the idea that within 5 minutes the house will be consumed in fire and you will die. You both head for an escape door. Behind which maybe are some criminal elements. YOU carry a heavy AXE, intended to SMASH through the door. Your kid is much faster and reaches the door in the first minute. The kid is expected/supposed to use the HANDLE and open the door, so that you both can escape at minute 3. But dear, oh dear. In the 2 more minutes it takes you heavy , old, strong adult to reach the door, you SEE that your kid is NOT touching the handle. He is afraid for the criminals on the other side. Then arrives minute 3 and BOTH of you stand at the closed door. Now the door has been LOCKED from the outside. What do you do ?`??? BICKERING at your kid for not opening the door in time ??? WASTING more minutes scratching your ARSES ??? Drinking TEA ??? NO! ANY SANE adult would USE his AXE which was the WHOLE PURPOSE of carrying the damn thing, and BREAK THROUGH THE GODDAMN DOOR ! Read; adult = XXXcrps. , kid = 82nd airborne, door = Nijmegen bridge, criminals = SS troops, Axe = TANKS and all artillery you can muster. Oh, and i forgot the analogy; you as an adult walk verrrryy slllooooooow. Absolute NO URGENCY given the burning building. and had the kid opened the door too soon, he would have been killed by the criminals. Is it more clear now ?
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  10. So what is the difference in video ?
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  11. where is the, what is , why are my other messages removed ?
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  12. gelul. Ik had ook een paar ZONDER linkjes en die zijn ook verwijderd. Omdat het kritiek bevat op jou vooringenomenheid and zwakte standpunten. gvd...weer een sujet dat niet tegen (degelijke) kritiek kan, en zichzelf als dictator of god de kritikaster monddood maakt. We denken alleen maar aan namen als Hitler, Putin, en vooruit Juncker...maar elke pretentieuse kwal om de hoek heeft het ook in zich. Schaam je Tik.
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