Comments by "Bob Bart" (@bobbart4198) on "Thom Hartmann Program"
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... Desalination is a very pricey concept - it may be necessary, but it IS costly. But in the meantime, it occurs to me that while in some parts of the country there are massive floods on a regular basis, in OTHER parts, there are deadly droughts - threatening human and animal life, as well as agriculture - both in terms of livelihoods and the food we eat.
Now, IF we can build pipelines to transport oil and natural gas for hundreds of miles, why can we not build some practical kind of water transport system - controlled in a similar fashion as the power dams we already have ?
It would take time, yes. It would take money - of course - but it might go a long way toward solving future problems AND saving lives ! ...
It would CERTAINLY provide jobs, stimulate growth in numerous States and increase tax revenue at all levels - and such a mega-project would add to the coffers of local business all along the way.
- With regard to cannibalism, I am dubious ... 👀
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... What will you DO about this, Thom ? ... You can't do ANYTHING about it, actually.
The reason that I say that is this : American Government - despite all the noble words the public voices have extolled so rapturously over the decades, is a numbers game. You folks have gotten by, so far, by the dubious " honor " of a majority of Reps from BOTH Parties, as in the Watergate issue - wherein a sufficient number of Republicans saw the actuality of Nixon's guilt and sided with the Dems to take action.
So far as Trump is concerned, the GOP stuck with their feckless leader and the US Legal System (so-called) failed. The RNC should have been made to choose another candidate, one WITHOUT 34 Convictions already handed down, and many others pending, but the US Electoral rules don't have any such provision ... and as for the " Checks & Balances " we've heard so much about - THEY haven't worked on Trump since 2016 ... America got EXACTLY what they worked for. A Conman in the Oval Office and a brand new herd of gators for the Swamp ! ... Enjoy ! ...
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@oleeoleeoo2610 Thank You ! - I AM Canadian, and I've had THREE - Count-'em THREE Mini-Strokes, due to an Atrial Septal Defect - a so-called Hole in the Heart. This is a common condition suffered by one-in-four people - most of these folks Never even know they have this condition, because it USUALLY doesn't manifest as a problem. The first event was so mild that I didn't even know it WAS a Stroke, - I just couldn't speak coherently for two or three hours - and there were no other symptoms. The last two put me in the Hospital for a week each time. My experience with Canadian Healthcare: (A.) No waiting, because your waiting-time (a common complaint of Americans, because they've been lied to by US Politicians) is based upon the severity of the patient's condition, - not how good your Personal Insurance Plan is. (B.) Top-drawer care - I have even received numerous MRA's - (and those things are expensive) - over the last few years. (C.) Very inexpensive Medications, up here, folks, - Sanders is being straight with you. ... Last but not least, far from dying out, - Capitalism is alive and well in Canada, and so is our Personal Freedom. Americans don't seem to be able to understand that you can have social services (which they ALREADY HAVE - Medicare, Medicaid and many others) and still be a Free Country.
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@frodobaggins169 .. Ooooh - I'm Gaslighting now, am I ? ... Or maybe, just MAYBE you are a banana 🍌 ... Actually, I'm not a MAGA guy at all, l'm just like you, Bro, only less paranoid, apparently.
The term " crazy " is just that - a term - like " psychopath " only more general-purpose, y'know ? ... Now, Trump - there is a psychopath. AND he's fugly on top of that !
Hey, - Let's keep in touch ... you're fun !
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... Within the first minute Thom brings up the most obvious point in this argument : There are X number of Jobs available and that number, despite gains - when aligned with growth in the population, - is ultimately finite ... in simpler terms, there are only so many jobs available - AND only so many of them pay a decent wage. Why should young people have to wait for the better jobs, just so that employers don't have to spend money on training, - and at the same time, aging bodies must be forced to labor for greater periods, and withhold the good jobs from the young. The country needs a next generation to do the next generation's earning and taxpaying. The country ALSO needs the next generation to do the next generation's consuming, rent paying, goods & services buying, voting and national defense.
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... SOME Americans think Allies are unnecessary, when the US has the biggest Military on Earth ... but sometimes - over time - things change. Where is the Empire of Rome, where are the Ottomans, the British Empire - once the mightiest in the World is barely a shadow of it's old self, the Hapsburg, Imperial Russia - all gone or dying ...
America is a Democratic Republic by strict definition, but it IS an Empire of the modern kind, and NO Empire in history - regardless of it's political flavor - has lasted forever.
The American Empire will not be an exception. Some day, she'll need friends - she'll need allies. The ridiculous concept of American Exceptionalism is no more real than the doctrine of Discovery, or Manifest Destiny ... If there IS a " God " HE/SHE/IT does not Favor America anymore than HE/SHE/IT favors Canada, Britain, Slovenia or Borneo ... HE/SHE/IT wouldn't even know the United States was gone if the Yellowstone Volcano blew it off the map !
This is not intended to be an anti-American screed - though long and boring it may be ...
Just a reminder from an outsider that you are NOT special in the greater scheme, NONE of us are special ... It's just that MOST of us are aware of that reality ...☮
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Donald Trump has a Health Care Plan ... news to me ! ... It's going on Nine years now, since Obamacare first came in, and the GOP has been railing against it from the beginning ... problem is they haven't come up with anything to replace it. - NINE YEARS of nothing more than TALK from the Republicans, - no surprise there ! ... In the meantime, a Democrat, - Bernie Sanders is trying to bring in Universal Healthcare - THE REAL THING, - just like Canada, England, Scandinavia to mention only a few, - and half of America is calling it SOCIALISM, - which the Right and many of the other Democrats running for POTUS, have convinced people - means Communism! But if you USE YOUR OWN CRITICAL THINKING ABILITIES , you will understand that this equivocation is a lie; Canada is NOT a Communist country, is it ? ... Nor is England, or the Scandinavian Countries ... Please guys, THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE !
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... Thom, you mention the (slowly dying) art of Rebuttal in this video, and while I personally agree with you on the importance of airing opposing views, remember that it IS a two-way street. ALSO, while there are still plenty of rational people around, the very nature of critical thinking has evolved in a large portion of the western world's population ... perhaps I should say that it has DEVOLVED.
Rationality is (now) a multi-layered state of mind, and people tend to revert back to what they WANT to believe ... what costs them less and what confirms THEIR feelings ...
Social Media did a LOT of damage to critical thinking skills, but it was NOT the only vector of misinformation : biased newspaper articles, feel good movies and the Television & Radio news programs all played a role, and so did the Church.
Critical Thinking - like debate - is an art, and it has to be learned ... once it has, it requires a modicum of nurturing. Healthy environments like that becoming more and more rarefied in our modern times ! ... What's the answer ... who the hell knows ...
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... The West in general, and the US in particular have a deficit of Responsible People ... what I mean by this is that we ALL demand our " Rights ", but too many refuse to take a personal stake in the outcome - if it's bad.
The US Constitution guarantees the Right to Bear Arms, but it DOESN'T guarantee specific KINDS of weapons ... at the time of the Second Amendments conception, " Arms " meant a Musket, a sword or a Pitch Fork - not an AR-15. The Gun Lobby, the NRA and the small arms manufacturers are the ones that convinced Americans that they can and SHOULD be armed to the teeth ...
Meanwhile, the vague intent of a two-hundred & fifty + year old set of guarantees couldn't have anticipated the advent of hand-held WMD's, despite the reputation for " Prescience " we seem intent upon bestowing on the Founders ...
And " Free Speech " has NEVER been completely free - nor CAN IT BE, when the uttering of Hate and threats of violence are - IN FACT - illegal ! ... Rights are EARNED by responsible and nondestructive citizenship. Failing that commitment, your Nation IS doomed to crash !
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... Sound's like high-time that America started to take a REAL look at their 200+ year-old Constitution and see if perhaps this dramatically different American Experiment needs a good stirring and maybe a few new ingredients. No form wisdom is eternal, and no set of rules can serve in a constantly changing game. The Founders - however good may their collective intentions have been, lived in a different world: A new British invasion was always a possibility, and with no standing army - (as was their intent) - a well armed and largely uncontrolled populace made sense. Now, with the World's biggest and best-armed military, citizen soldiers are unnecessary ... EXCEPT that too many Americans are afraid of their own Government - and THAT'S not a good thing, is it ? ... There is ALSO the fact, that the Founders where all White MEN who owned other human beings, and treated them like trading cards, occasionally fathering children with them - but NEVER acknowledging those offspring. ONLY the class to which the Founders belonged could vote, and that DID NOT include the Women of that same class. Generally speaking, any intent reading of the American Constitution will reveal loop-holes that were not an issue in the late Seventeen Hundreds, (slavery and inequality based on gender, property-ownership and religion) but have become more obvious through the intervening years. So far as I am aware, in those two centuries that have passed, only seventeen amendments have been enacted. Perhaps it's time for another look !
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... It is NOT just the US Federal Supreme Court that is bizarre, the entire Country is bizarre !
The United States - born of revolution - seems to be always on the edge of another one.
The whole Nation clings desperately to a fairly vague set of 27 Amendments that NOBODY really understands - clearly, since even the so-called " Constitutional Scholars " can never completely agree upon the precise meaning of any Amendment - especially when the most pressing questions arise ...
Is the President an " Officer " of the US Government ? - Nobody seems to know ... Can a former President be held accountable for ANYTHING under the Constitution ? - Maybe, can we get back to you ? ... Does America have a Single Tier Justice System, where everyone is equally subject to the same set of rules ? ... Depends upon whether it's convenient or not.
EVERYTHING seems to be based upon a Foundation of shifting sand : The most Revered and Honorable Founding Fathers - a group of Wealthy, White, slave-owning MEN decreed that All MEN were created equally (except for the Blacks & the Indians & Women of course) in the Eyes of THEIR God, but made a point of stating " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ... " but the Christian faith still dominates in legal matters and despite the admonishment regarding an Army - " As standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and have often been the means of overturning the best constitutions of government, no standing army, or troops of any description whatsoever, shall be raised or kept up by the legislature, except so many as shall be necessary for guards to the arsenals of ... " - the United States maintains THE biggest Military Force in Human History ...
Seems like maybe that most Sacred of America Documents is rather liquid in it's sacred stature ...
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Janusha Of course we can't " sit at home and decide what is real " as you put it, but our senses and our minds STILL take us ultimately to that point; the very fact that you are expressing thoughts on the subject proves that you have indeed come to a very specific position. A few points, before I go; the only Aliens I believe in are the Illegal kind, - I don't have any angst toward them, you understand, - I'm just using the proper terminology. And I don't believe in Bigfoot, although I've seen a lot of people with big feet ... and hands ... and ears ... I support Vaccination, I think Scientology is ridiculous (I also think Tom Cruze is ridiculous ... ditto John Travolta ) and I happen to think that Conspiracy Theories ARE a conspiracy. The Earth is a Globe, - I only need to look at a distant horizon to see THAT, - plus Creationism and the Birther stuff is Horse Shit ! Also, I'd like to know why you assume I'm an American ... or an Idiot. I'm a Canadian, and only my wife is allowed to assume that I am an Idiot ... she has witnessed first-hand proof .. CIAO, Baby !
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@dr.zoidberg8666 Your view on Centrists is wrong. Without get long-winded about it, as you seem to favor, not all Centrists are Democrats - some are Republicans, I know, I've talked to many. Having said that, Centrism is the only choice that ensures survival; either extreme will take the Country down for good. After all, the US is more of an Empire, than an actual functional Democracy - By the People, for SOME of the People, and - like all the Empires before it, it WILL settle under the weight of it's own bloat. It will continue to exist - Like England, and it will retain some power (also like England) but the only thing left to keep it from rolling off into oblivion will be the cooperation of the Centrists ... no more to discuss.
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... Maybe these " Lambs " aren't as innocent or as dumb as you think. Trump's arrogant and decidedly Right-Wing views (these days, that is) appeal to the mean-fisted, share-not kind of stuff one frequently finds in sedentary Small towns ... the kind of place where you may be accepted, but you will NEVER really be a part of ...
If you are not a White person, you may STILL be accepted, but you'll forever be a " token " of some kind ... your presence will be tolerated, you may EVEN be taken into the Community as a member, but - you weren't born there, so you are always going to be a kind Member in Reserve. Americans are a very " cliquey " people, and they FEEL that they are special in some vague way ... like Israel, America sees itself as " chosen by God " ...
The Israelis have - if only to themselves - a direct Biblical reason for this attitude ... the US has no such " blessing " - no mater how subjectively ill-founded - to base their silly concepts of " exceptionalism " upon, and while they might give credence to such fragile parochialism of the self, this kind of small-minded provincialism is more prevalent in the rural milieu ...
- And THESE areas are the backbone of Republicanism in general - and Populist Crackpot despotism in particular ... even a blatantly imperfect " Messiah " is better than none !
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