Comments by "" (@NinjaKittyBonks) on "TYT LIES For Robert Adams" video.
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@GhostOfBillCooper .... OK. I saw your video LINK, thank you :)
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This does indeed differ from my understanding from other research I have done (a local report from LA News outlet and Sean's video here. which was edited for YouTube age restriction). It is clear from this video, which I have not seen before just now, he does throw, what can only be reasonably assumed to be the gun.
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That said, I have to also must consider several other factors:
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1. We are seeing a different angle than officers. I am not saying the cops could not see what we did, but there is a lot to process in that 3 seconds.
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2. The police KNOW they are chasing a suspect that is armed and into an area, in which he is cornered. Since he did not just drop his weapon, it is only reasonable he is seeking cover and shoot at them. Now, if he did not know these were cops, and I they did give commands, per witnesses other than his friend, but did not realize these were cops, than the only reasonable consideration, is that he WAS going to shoot back from behind the cars.
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3. When the cops are chasing him, they are specifically watching his right hand, because they can see the weapon in it. When he turns to the left to throw weapon, it is at THAT EXACT moment, the reasonable consideration is that he will CONTINUE to rotate around to the left and shoot back at them.
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I get that they likely SAW the gun go flying out of his hand, but what the eye sees, cannot be processed in that literal "blink of an eye" amount of time. In other words, 2 nano seconds AFTER the officer shot him with that fatal wound, he was able to process that gun being thrown over the car.
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It takes a literal fraction of a second to continue rotating and shoot back, so the INSTANT he began to swing his arm around his body... the cop shoots. We also need to consider adrenaline is flowing HARD and they are also keeping an eye on BOTH suspects, because it is not unreasonable to figure they are both armed. We see the other guy hold his hands up, but again... AFTER his friend is shot and on the ground.
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It is interesting, that Sean said that the gun WAS still in his hand, no ambiguity at all on that point, but is what Sean found in his research. We could assume the cops lied, but they both have body cam and video, while not perfect, exposes a lot of things. They may or may not have known about the roof camera we were seeing here, but probably did not.
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This video is also pixilated, so maybe the a gun is visible and something else was thrown. This would be EXTREMELY unlikely he had switched the gun we SAW with drugs or something, but it is also EXTREMELY unlikely he would toss the gun and not just drop the gun and throw hands in the air. If he thought they were NOT cops, he would NEVER toss his gun, because they could not possibly be anything but VERY bad intentions, as they are chasing him with guns of their own.
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He was running into a corner he could not really escape, so in the amount of time the cops had, was very reasonable to think he was going to continue to rotate and shoot at them.
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Thank you for the LINK, as it does give me slight pause, but we can ALWAYS look back and say "woulda, shoulda, coulda" from both sides. At the end of the day, this was a convicted felon who KNEW that serious prison time would result if he was to surrender with a weapon.
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I think he realized the officer was too close to gain cover from car, so threw weapon, but was too late to stop the chain of events.
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PS> Why did the friend not tell that reporter that Roberts threw the gun to him and was going to surrender. Something doesn't add up here.
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@lds_drive ... Yes. I understood that you said it was not the gun, but silly me... I failed to read "casing" when you spelled "chasing"... dummy kitty, I am...lol
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OK... I just watched the unedited video again and can see now, that had he thrown a gun, it would have been CLEARLY visible, so my bad for not catching that the first time. NO WAY that was a gun, but I still find it odd that he then must have had 2 things in his right hand, so why would he bother to throw a shell casing and why did he have one?
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I have several things that still don't make sense, but too much verbiage to lay them all out, when we will find out in the next day or so anyway.
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Thanks for the update :)
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PS> Is it possible he fired the gun at cops, but WANTED to claim he had not, because cops would be unable to find a discharged shell? Would he have been able to "catch" it as ejected at that moment?
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@lds_drive ... Na, I am the silly one who could not think out of the box, even a tiny bit... lol
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Sean said that the weapon WAS still in his hand, at the time of the cop tending to his injuries, so I figure that he saw a completely unedited video. I just now looked and could only find pixelated ones and multiple headlines saying "Black man murdered by white cop".
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I get that people have some questions about this, but the video is 90% conclusive he was legit shot. YES... I have seen Donut Operator and he has done some great breakdowns, so I will keep this in mind, thanks :)
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Again, agreed! There is no such thing as a "routine traffic stop" and damned sure, not when it comes to a guy walking around a parking lot with a gun! The problem is that 100% of the stories ALWAYS come out as "black man shot by white cop" and that statement sticks, even when we find out that 95% are absolutely justified in every way from the first release of story.
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So long as we have a media that thinks clicks for outrage is the best way to serve the public, we will forever be screwed as a county in race relations :(
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